I don't run Windows, and I'd never install iTunes even if I did.
So your complaint isn't as much with the apple hardware, but the fact that you're not using the supplied software, and you're mad that whatever you are using doesn't do something the supplied software does? Good arguement.
You're right, funny how *nix users who represent such a small market share, scream when it isn't supported by software, but/. can immediately discount 25% of it's own users.
You aren't running Linux? You can't encrypt files without the admin having the master decryption key? Sucks to be you.
Well, yes I'm running windows, it's a corporate machine and it is cheaper/easier for them to control us all that way. But yes, I do have PGP encryption to all my files so only I have access to them. Thanks for your concern, but if you know what you're doing, you can fix/tweak a lot of windows issues too.
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Feel like we're caught in a loop -
The average user does not know enough about the computers, networking or the web to see any problem with the browser that is on thier machine, whether it came with the computer, or was provided by their service provider. AOL survived as long as it did because people were unaware of their options, this is true. The options aren't hard to find, but they didnt' care to look, and still don't. Email, stock quotes, naked girls, funny videos - they play in what they already have, why would they want/need something different?
I repeat -
If you want MORE people to adopt it, you need a better reason, or education programs, because the average user dosen't care.
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People who care about open source are already using it - if you want MORE people to adopt it, you need a better reason, or education programs, because the average user dosen't care.
No Linux isn't more popular because the 1%s here are actually here badmouthing Macromedia for trying, and think a 4 step system requiring tweaks to replacing it is a better idea.
There is a lot of room between being a fanboy cheerleader and badmouthing a developer who is trying to support a small market.
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I'm guessing people don't care about the 'free' aspect of it, because nobody is used to paying (directly) for Internet Explorer, Netscape, AOL's keywords or anything else that mainstream public use to find their way around the inter-web.
Since this thread seems to be about burning Karma, may as well go way out on a limb here...
What to know why Linux isn't catching on faster?
You can get in-sync audio by using alsa-oss. I'm sure if you Google around, you'll find the solution to your problem.
Only in the world of Linux would it seem like a good idea to avoid the software being specifically written to do X be avoided by having to google to find a tweak to an old program by loading another program. I appreciate the benefits of open source, but Macromedia created flash for a specific form of content, and is writing a driver to allow everyone in Linux to see it better, why does this need a workaround? Is it just too simple?
Get out much? Geez, lighten up some. Just because you hate your company doesn't mean EVERYONE is fucked up or that they're all useless. I totally forgot what the subject of this thread was you're so wound up...
Hey, everyone likes "we don't need no education" but separating it from the rest of The Wall is like reading one chapter out of Moby Dick. Yes it's a Song, and Radio Stations have been known to play it independantly, but it is part of a larger unit. While Floyd is an extreme case, it is true on some level for most Albums.
For the record, an 'album' is a collection of 33 1/3 pieces of Vynil played on a Victrola. Music of the era was too long to fit on this 7 minute long format, so when you bought the 1810 overture, it came in a bound book of several records. Sure, an single movement, or song from an opera COULD be sold separately, but why would you? This collection of records reminded people of a photo album, and the name stuck through 33 1/3 LP's (and their single side kick, the 45), 8 Tracks, cassettes, and CD's. There was a phase in the industry in the 80's to try and get away from the term 'album' as the industry embraced optical and tried to escape vynil as the pinacle of music distribution. The reason it stuck, it is like a photo album, a collection of pieces, bundled together as a collective unit.
To sumarize - An album is a unit being diluted by single releases of songs, just as songs are being poluted now by a 5 second hook of a ringtone. Is our attention span really this small?
Your only real shot at getting one (legally) is in the form of a petition suggesting geeks would be willing to help fund 3 computers, if they got one (paying $300 for a $100PC and a warm fuzzy feeling). We discussed it here:
http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=19204 0&cid=15771034
If you want a real lesson on suing over transcendental Trademark infringements, try to sell any kind of food with "Mc" in the name. Even in Edie Murphy's movie "Coming to America" had a side-story about Mr. McDowell being sued and harassed over the name of his 'McDowells' restaurant. Common and expected use carries a lot of weight.
I do not know if they should be renewing it for 5 years, though, as that is an eternity in Internet time.
Actually, I think if it's going to be renewed, it SHOULD be an 'eternity in Internet time'. Standards change often enough, and ICANN is one of the few stabilizing factors out there. It's one thing to keep pushing the technology envelope, but working on large systems with a long lead time You really learn to appreciate that if nothing stays the same, you can never finish.
Due to recent events at NASA, we'd appreciate everyone helping out by recording the stream of the event, and puttting it... well somewhere you can find it later.
Is it me or are there several stories a day anymore on "the end" of what is obvously a well established, entrenched, and supported technology? It seems very short-sighted for such technologically driven people. As fast as things do move in this field, established technologies don't disappear. Next we'll start believing Hard Disks can't get any bigger, geekiness is hip, and that we won't find any more use for a faster processor.
Really, if we're going to censor information, communication, and access, whey even bother with the library at all? Burn those books baby! There's naughty words in that one, and that one could contain information about CHEMISTRY, allowing everyone to know how to make di-hydrogen-oxide http://www.dhmo.org/facts.html! Next thing you know people will be thinking for themselves instead of the way they're supposed to!
You're right; you can't make a difference, so no point in trying to encourage others to pledge either. As you so eloquently pointed out, there IS a geek market for these, but that's no reason to try and support the only current legitimate suggestion for supplying that market. Better off to point out that effort is doomed, and it'll be better to get a hold of them fraudulently.
FYI - school children in NO country will be able to 'buy' these. Sponsors provide them, if children sell them (I guess at the nearest Kinko's express in Djibouti's badlands?); they go without until another round of upgrades or distribution. They are not expect to distribute any of these in the USA, but rather in more primitive developing nations without accessible libraries and schools connected to the grid.
Well, if you really want to be charitable, you could also go to http://www.heifer.org/ , and for $300 sponsor a llama, a trio of rabbits, hive of honey bees, and a flock of geese.
But then you wouldn't get the cool OLPC, that they aren't supposed to sell in the US commercially...
Don't forget boys and girls, You too can own what is sure to become the ultimate geek accessory and make a charitable donation all in one fell swoop. Sign up now to donate $300, recieve one computer, and know you've sent two where they are needed.
Personally, I don't give a damn if Myspace ever comes back online either, but professionally, it is interesting to watch one of the largest/busiest sites in the world go down for an extended period of time. It may be more helpful to have solid information coming from it (redundancy weakness, data center specific issues, bandwidth, power, hacking, etc) than we currently do, but there are serious 'lessons learned' here which makes it news because a site this large going down does matter.
Not caring about the content on a site shouldn't mean it going down isn't significant.
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Click what from what windows program?
I don't run Windows, and I'd never install iTunes even if I did.
So your complaint isn't as much with the apple hardware, but the fact that you're not using the supplied software, and you're mad that whatever you are using doesn't do something the supplied software does? Good arguement.
As much as Bush is willing to declare war, I doubt this is one he's going to back, unless he unilaterally declars war on everyone.
Its pretty hypocritical
/. can immediately discount 25% of it's own users.
You're right, funny how *nix users who represent such a small market share, scream when it isn't supported by software, but
You aren't running Linux? You can't encrypt files without the admin having the master decryption key? Sucks to be you.
Well, yes I'm running windows, it's a corporate machine and it is cheaper/easier for them to control us all that way. But yes, I do have PGP encryption to all my files so only I have access to them. Thanks for your concern, but if you know what you're doing, you can fix/tweak a lot of windows issues too.
Feel like we're caught in a loop - The average user does not know enough about the computers, networking or the web to see any problem with the browser that is on thier machine, whether it came with the computer, or was provided by their service provider. AOL survived as long as it did because people were unaware of their options, this is true. The options aren't hard to find, but they didnt' care to look, and still don't. Email, stock quotes, naked girls, funny videos - they play in what they already have, why would they want/need something different?
I repeat -
If you want MORE people to adopt it, you need a better reason, or education programs, because the average user dosen't care.
People who care about open source are already using it - if you want MORE people to adopt it, you need a better reason, or education programs, because the average user dosen't care.
No Linux isn't more popular because the 1%s here are actually here badmouthing Macromedia for trying, and think a 4 step system requiring tweaks to replacing it is a better idea.
There is a lot of room between being a fanboy cheerleader and badmouthing a developer who is trying to support a small market.
I'm guessing people don't care about the 'free' aspect of it, because nobody is used to paying (directly) for Internet Explorer, Netscape, AOL's keywords or anything else that mainstream public use to find their way around the inter-web.
What to know why Linux isn't catching on faster?
You can get in-sync audio by using alsa-oss. I'm sure if you Google around, you'll find the solution to your problem.
Only in the world of Linux would it seem like a good idea to avoid the software being specifically written to do X be avoided by having to google to find a tweak to an old program by loading another program. I appreciate the benefits of open source, but Macromedia created flash for a specific form of content, and is writing a driver to allow everyone in Linux to see it better, why does this need a workaround? Is it just too simple?
Speaking of tight Sphincters -
Get out much? Geez, lighten up some. Just because you hate your company doesn't mean EVERYONE is fucked up or that they're all useless. I totally forgot what the subject of this thread was you're so wound up...
Hey, everyone likes "we don't need no education" but separating it from the rest of The Wall is like reading one chapter out of Moby Dick. Yes it's a Song, and Radio Stations have been known to play it independantly, but it is part of a larger unit. While Floyd is an extreme case, it is true on some level for most Albums.
For the record, an 'album' is a collection of 33 1/3 pieces of Vynil played on a Victrola. Music of the era was too long to fit on this 7 minute long format, so when you bought the 1810 overture, it came in a bound book of several records. Sure, an single movement, or song from an opera COULD be sold separately, but why would you? This collection of records reminded people of a photo album, and the name stuck through 33 1/3 LP's (and their single side kick, the 45), 8 Tracks, cassettes, and CD's. There was a phase in the industry in the 80's to try and get away from the term 'album' as the industry embraced optical and tried to escape vynil as the pinacle of music distribution. The reason it stuck, it is like a photo album, a collection of pieces, bundled together as a collective unit.
To sumarize - An album is a unit being diluted by single releases of songs, just as songs are being poluted now by a 5 second hook of a ringtone. Is our attention span really this small?
Your only real shot at getting one (legally) is in the form of a petition suggesting geeks would be willing to help fund 3 computers, if they got one (paying $300 for a $100PC and a warm fuzzy feeling). We discussed it here: http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=19204 0&cid=15771034
If you want a real lesson on suing over transcendental Trademark infringements, try to sell any kind of food with "Mc" in the name. Even in Edie Murphy's movie "Coming to America" had a side-story about Mr. McDowell being sued and harassed over the name of his 'McDowells' restaurant. Common and expected use carries a lot of weight.
I do not know if they should be renewing it for 5 years, though, as that is an eternity in Internet time.
Actually, I think if it's going to be renewed, it SHOULD be an 'eternity in Internet time'. Standards change often enough, and ICANN is one of the few stabilizing factors out there. It's one thing to keep pushing the technology envelope, but working on large systems with a long lead time You really learn to appreciate that if nothing stays the same, you can never finish.
Due to recent events at NASA, we'd appreciate everyone helping out by recording the stream of the event, and puttting it... well somewhere you can find it later.
meet rotary phone dial....
After all, everything old is new again right?
Is it me or are there several stories a day anymore on "the end" of what is obvously a well established, entrenched, and supported technology? It seems very short-sighted for such technologically driven people. As fast as things do move in this field, established technologies don't disappear. Next we'll start believing Hard Disks can't get any bigger, geekiness is hip, and that we won't find any more use for a faster processor.
who have the world by the balls and have no interest in letting go...
... Because when you got 'em by the balls, their hearts and minds will follow.
All or nothin' baby, pick a side and write your government reps http://www.congress.org/congressorg/home/ cuz they don't care what you post here!
Yeah! That's why AOL never got off the ground... wait...
but history dosen't repeat itself, I'm sure this time around the average public will be much smarter...
Well, People will make informed decisions based upon sound engineering principles, not marketing....
crap, we're all doomed
Well then bravo, but somehow, I didn't get anything like that in your first post. Was it after "That pledge seems doomed to failure."
or just before you said "I don't recall anything that indicates something like this is even being thought about by the association itself."
Was it near the optomistic "there will be a somewhat lucrative market for laptops taken from or sold by the students."
or the "the only ones hurt by the sale will be those who subsidise the production"
where you were touting the other, more helpful options, rather than just flaming away at how stupid everything else was?
Sometimes, having something to say, and actually saying it are very different.
FYI - school children in NO country will be able to 'buy' these. Sponsors provide them, if children sell them (I guess at the nearest Kinko's express in Djibouti's badlands?); they go without until another round of upgrades or distribution. They are not expect to distribute any of these in the USA, but rather in more primitive developing nations without accessible libraries and schools connected to the grid.
Well, if you really want to be charitable, you could also go to http://www.heifer.org/ , and for $300 sponsor a llama, a trio of rabbits, hive of honey bees, and a flock of geese.
But then you wouldn't get the cool OLPC, that they aren't supposed to sell in the US commercially...
http://www.pledgebank.com/100laptop
Well, maybe you can own one, but your only chance of getting one in the US is probably to sign the pledge to convince everyone it's a viable solution.
Not caring about the content on a site shouldn't mean it going down isn't significant.