I just wanted to add as I didnt make it clear, the Keys the OEM uses to install them are the same keys across the board. so if they had 100,000 Xmodel of laptops with Vista Home Premium installed, that are all installed with the same Home Premium key. As long as the SLIC and the Digital Cert are present on those machines, it works with a single key..
They will use the same key on thier desktops with Home Premium as well as different models of their laptops also with home premium.
Now is it just me, but doesnt that sound like VLK to you?
Now the conundrum is this. M$ cant blacklist those keys. They will blacklist millions of legit customers who havent pirated it. They cant enforce a Bios upgrade as this will give the OEM's a headache on a huge scale. So really how do they fix this?.. Even SP1 installs and passes all WGA checks using this method. Software Bios Loaders will be blocked eventually as they are after all a software loader (and therefore detectable). But those who have modifed thier system Bios'es and as far as windows Vista is concerned are a legit OEM, are Scott free.
"I've got news for you, there's no volume licensed version of Vista, at least not in the sense of XP (where installing the VL version with the VL key would bypass activation)."
You poor misinformed fool. If you had even looked at the links being posted in this thread to some sites (MyDigialLife is one) and even the OP had a link to the cracked version on how its done.. I'll explain it for you so then you and any others who want to say there is no "VLK" version of vista and read and pay attention before posting such twaddle again..
The OEM's of various laptops and Desktops (Asus, Acer, Toshiba, HP, Dell, etc etc etc) fought very hard to get a kind of VLK version of windows Vista. These versions of Vista are installed at the factory and they check the system's Bios to see if there is a Licence String in the ACPI Section of the Bios. The OS also has a Digital Certificate that also needs to be installed. The Digital Cert and the SLIC have to match otherwise Windows goes back into non-activated mode. These versions of Vista that the OEMS have have a seperate set of keys that indicate what version of Vista is installed - Home, Home premium, Ultimate and so on.
Now what the hackers have done is extract the SLIC strings from the BIOS'es of the OEM's and inserted them into thier own System Bios or made a Bios loader that does the same job. Then all you have to do is to change the Vista Procduct Key to correspond to the OEM version you want (EG Ultimate) using an elevated command prompt command. You also install the Digital Cert the same way. Then presto! A version of Vista that no longer phones home. No longer needs activating when hardware is changed. Only if you change the BIOS to one that no longer has a SLIC code in it will windows deactivate, as the prerequisites have been terminated.
Now, do you get it?.. really DO YOU?
There IS a VLK version of Vista because the OEM's demanded it. And seeing the the OEM market is M$'s biggest sector they bowed and gave it to them.
Ummm no...
How about it checks your phone, and if its hacked Dont install the update and deactiave the phone instead of breaking something that someone has PAID for with THIER money....
Then they could pay an Apple premium price to unlock thier phone and get the right firmware flashed back onto the device.
If there are now enough iBricks to build a iHouse?... Apple seem to be doing the "bad" thing more and more these days... Particulary when it comes the the iPhone.
I can see all the calls I will get now from newbs who run this from within their Windows install on a FakeRAID Stripe (Like NVRAID) and watch them woefully break down in tears as I tell them that FakeRAID doesnt run (Nativily) in Linux and that thier data is gone and lost forever thanks to the partitioning process.
Seriously you are going to get anyone and his dog trying this because it "looks" easy. If they have any oddball hardware then they will be royaly screwed.
perhaps they should rename the domain to goodbyedata.com
Absolutly wonderful.. Well done.. a huge pat on the back!.
HAHAHAHAHHAHA!!!.. You just showed how much you DIDNT know.
ACPI IS controlled by the OS and not the BIOS. APM was controlled by the BIOS and not the OS.
From Wikipedia:
The most widely recognized element of the standard is power management, of which there have been two major improvements. First, it puts the operating system (OS) in control of power management. This stands in contrast with the previously existing APM model, which assigns power management control to the BIOS, with limited intervention from the OS. In ACPI, the BIOS provides the OS with methods for directly controlling the low-level details of the hardware so it has nearly complete control over the power savings.
So installing Gentoo without power management just made you PC into a heatbox... Move along.. Nothing to see here..
"the initiate finds out that there was a huge galactic war 76 million years ago and that earth is a prison planet. The initiate also find out that he is really not one person, like he has always believed, but that he is a composite being that has thousands or tens of thousands of aliens from this old war imprisoned in their current body fighting for control of it."
Accounts to brainwashing innocent or gullable people. Scientology should be eradicated from this prison planet, so we can all go on being prisoners.
The recent behaviour of Tom Cruise should say to us all that pretty much all those who follow scientology are nut jobs.
If Acer is warehousing PCs, then they'll be out of business within the year. PC manufacturers don't build a PC until it is ordered. Do you think loading a Linux hard-drive instead of a Windows hard-drive would be any more trouble than installing a 1024M DIMM instead of a 512M DIMM?
So OBVIOUSLY all those Acer PC's that are in Wal-Mart, Circuit City, Best Buy Etc magically configure themselves as you tell the sales guy exactly what you need. GET REAL!
Of COURSE Acer warehouses PC's. They are not like Dell, HP etc where you can go onto Acer's Website and Custom build your order. They provide set tiers of laptops to warehouse style resellers. Resellers just like Newegg, Wal-MArt etc. They have done this for as long as they have been in business. You really didnt think that one thru now did you, on your oh-so educated retort.
Why am I getting the corrupted sys file on F6 floppy driver loading?
That is the Windows bug (or a feature) when using Unattended in any way. So to solve that either don't use Unattended page, or delete i386\winnt.sif file (amd64\winnt.sif for 64bit). Or integrate that floppy driver with nLite driver integration page (recommended).
EH?
What problem exactly?
its TELLING you to intgrate the floppy F6 Drivers into the installation using nLite. Which I believe is what the origianl poster you replied to said in the first place. nLite makes it easier as you dont have to manunally edit the winnt.sif files and make the scripts.
If you integrate all your floppy text mode drivers with nlite you WONT get that problem as it states in the last sentance.
so how is that a problem? unless you make it a problem?
Dont you think its funny that slashdot didnt run the story that on tuesday Apple's shares fell to the lowest they have ever been in seven years... Funny that dont you think?
http://www.physorg.com/news104518387.html
After all be it from slashdot to make Apple look bad....
If that was a Micro$oft share drop they would have been all over it in a heartbeat
You are just being silly. How many carriers do you use at once (well, most people only use one)
You are missing the point. AT&T is the only carrier.. That means it wont work where I live as GSM sucks up here and AT&T dont have any kind of presance at all. CDMA is the dominant market here in Northern New Hampshire. So you have the choice of US Cellular or Verizon. Both of which DONT & WONT carry the iPhone.
I can get a Treo on Verizon no problem and it works up here.. AT&T Simply does not have the same market share here that it does in other states.
Now do you see the multiple carrier argument? God I hope so..
Motorola, LG, Samsung, Kyocera, etc all have thier software updating tools and firmware tools for phone repair and upgrades etc. These are called in the biz as PST's or RSD tools
Im pretty sure that Apple wont be releasing these to the wireless carriers, just like RIM dont for thier blackberry line. RIM do all the repairs, updgrades etc on thier hardware.
Not Motorola on the other hand you can get the firmware updates and software to do it yourself (if you know where to look) Motorola also offer firmware updates for the Razr currently for you to do yourself.
Apple afaik are taking the RIM Approach to thier iPhone... Only Apple will be able to do anything with them (software wise) therefore reducing the possibility of an unlocked iPhone considerably
Hell, my 7800GT 256MB that I have had for nearly TWO years is only just beginning to stuggle with some titles.. I have always upgraded my Video Card around every 18 months or so.
Anyone saying that you need to upgrade every 4-6 months is just jealous and does not know what they are talking about
And then complaining about the lack of Mac versions of Crysis, Unreal Tournament 2007, Half Life2 Episode 2, Starcraft 2 etc etc etc.. that your Mac wouldnt even have 20% of the graphics power to run them at full speed in native Mac format or by Bootcamp with Windows...
Oh its nice to see that you will get a Harry Potter game, oh and a racing game thats almost 12 months old (and will look worse than the PC version)
Your argument is stupid, as are you
pffft... Macpaint was owned by Dpaint on the Amiga...
Thing is that I find funny, that its taken 8 versions to have a Draw Circle Tool in Photoshop... I mean WTF??? The Amiga Dpaint had that from Day one. Dry to draw a lined circle on anything other than Photoshop CS3.
Its stupidly long winded and requires more than one click..
Dont get me wrong I love Photoshop, but its got some serious flaws (and bloat)
Its nothing to do with the Pirate Bay you idiot... Its the fact that they are also part of the seeders. You need an IP Blocklist to help with your downloading, so really the fault is your own for not putting up the require barriers and just downloading willy nilly..
I have been downloading stuff for years and years (and of that the good stuff I do buy. I like to try before I buy something a lot of people seem to have a poor grasp of) and I have yet to have a takedown notice..... Its really your own fault, so instead of fucking the RIAA, and the MPAA why dont you fuck yourself for a change...
Acutally a mouse IS better because you can move it fast and thus turn faster.. The Joypad only does this to a very small degree in comparison.
Also you are always correcting your aim with the joypad using a thumb (and its generally up, down left right corrections) and it feels so much more restrictive than a good high dpi laser optic mouse ever will.
Its like playing a racing game with a wheel then playing the same game on keyboard. The differences between the two are exactly the same.
can you play the game any better?... no... But the wheel just repsonds/feels better than tapping some keys ever will.
Well of COURSE its not getting the Viewership... trying to watch ANYTHING on SciFi is horrible. 5 mins of show, 5 mins of commercials, 5 mins of show, 5 mins of commercials..
Other channels are bad (ABC etc) but they are nowhere near as bad as Sci-fi. I think Spike is probably nearest to it.
I watched the first Mini-series on SciFi, now for the other seasons, I wait till they are out on DVD and watch them how they are indtended, not on what SciFi's terms of force feeding me Enzyte, wrestling commercials etc and interuptting the story flow.
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I just wanted to add as I didnt make it clear, the Keys the OEM uses to install them are the same keys across the board. so if they had 100,000 Xmodel of laptops with Vista Home Premium installed, that are all installed with the same Home Premium key. As long as the SLIC and the Digital Cert are present on those machines, it works with a single key..
They will use the same key on thier desktops with Home Premium as well as different models of their laptops also with home premium.
Now is it just me, but doesnt that sound like VLK to you?
Now the conundrum is this. M$ cant blacklist those keys. They will blacklist millions of legit customers who havent pirated it. They cant enforce a Bios upgrade as this will give the OEM's a headache on a huge scale. So really how do they fix this?.. Even SP1 installs and passes all WGA checks using this method. Software Bios Loaders will be blocked eventually as they are after all a software loader (and therefore detectable). But those who have modifed thier system Bios'es and as far as windows Vista is concerned are a legit OEM, are Scott free.
Oh well... so much for anti-piracy
"I've got news for you, there's no volume licensed version of Vista, at least not in the sense of XP (where installing the VL version with the VL key would bypass activation)."
You poor misinformed fool. If you had even looked at the links being posted in this thread to some sites (MyDigialLife is one) and even the OP had a link to the cracked version on how its done.. I'll explain it for you so then you and any others who want to say there is no "VLK" version of vista and read and pay attention before posting such twaddle again..
The OEM's of various laptops and Desktops (Asus, Acer, Toshiba, HP, Dell, etc etc etc) fought very hard to get a kind of VLK version of windows Vista. These versions of Vista are installed at the factory and they check the system's Bios to see if there is a Licence String in the ACPI Section of the Bios. The OS also has a Digital Certificate that also needs to be installed. The Digital Cert and the SLIC have to match otherwise Windows goes back into non-activated mode. These versions of Vista that the OEMS have have a seperate set of keys that indicate what version of Vista is installed - Home, Home premium, Ultimate and so on.
Now what the hackers have done is extract the SLIC strings from the BIOS'es of the OEM's and inserted them into thier own System Bios or made a Bios loader that does the same job. Then all you have to do is to change the Vista Procduct Key to correspond to the OEM version you want (EG Ultimate) using an elevated command prompt command. You also install the Digital Cert the same way. Then presto! A version of Vista that no longer phones home. No longer needs activating when hardware is changed. Only if you change the BIOS to one that no longer has a SLIC code in it will windows deactivate, as the prerequisites have been terminated.
Now, do you get it?.. really DO YOU?
There IS a VLK version of Vista because the OEM's demanded it. And seeing the the OEM market is M$'s biggest sector they bowed and gave it to them.
Now I hope that clears a lot up...
Ummm no...
How about it checks your phone, and if its hacked Dont install the update and deactiave the phone instead of breaking something that someone has PAID for with THIER money....
Then they could pay an Apple premium price to unlock thier phone and get the right firmware flashed back onto the device.
What Apple is doing is wrong
If there are now enough iBricks to build a iHouse?... Apple seem to be doing the "bad" thing more and more these days... Particulary when it comes the the iPhone.
I can see all the calls I will get now from newbs who run this from within their Windows install on a FakeRAID Stripe (Like NVRAID) and watch them woefully break down in tears as I tell them that FakeRAID doesnt run (Nativily) in Linux and that thier data is gone and lost forever thanks to the partitioning process.
Seriously you are going to get anyone and his dog trying this because it "looks" easy. If they have any oddball hardware then they will be royaly screwed.
perhaps they should rename the domain to goodbyedata.com
Absolutly wonderful.. Well done.. a huge pat on the back!.
HAHAHAHAHHAHA!!!.. You just showed how much you DIDNT know.
ACPI IS controlled by the OS and not the BIOS. APM was controlled by the BIOS and not the OS.
From Wikipedia:
The most widely recognized element of the standard is power management, of which there have been two major improvements. First, it puts the operating system (OS) in control of power management. This stands in contrast with the previously existing APM model, which assigns power management control to the BIOS, with limited intervention from the OS. In ACPI, the BIOS provides the OS with methods for directly controlling the low-level details of the hardware so it has nearly complete control over the power savings.
So installing Gentoo without power management just made you PC into a heatbox... Move along.. Nothing to see here..
Any cult who's fundimental belief is:
"the initiate finds out that there was a huge galactic war 76 million years ago and that earth is a prison planet. The initiate also find out that he is really not one person, like he has always believed, but that he is a composite being that has thousands or tens of thousands of aliens from this old war imprisoned in their current body fighting for control of it."
Accounts to brainwashing innocent or gullable people. Scientology should be eradicated from this prison planet, so we can all go on being prisoners.
The recent behaviour of Tom Cruise should say to us all that pretty much all those who follow scientology are nut jobs.
Umm Microsoft DIDNT sign the code, ATI DID. The drivers ARENT WHQL verified... Who's the asshole now?
So OBVIOUSLY all those Acer PC's that are in Wal-Mart, Circuit City, Best Buy Etc magically configure themselves as you tell the sales guy exactly what you need. GET REAL!
Of COURSE Acer warehouses PC's. They are not like Dell, HP etc where you can go onto Acer's Website and Custom build your order. They provide set tiers of laptops to warehouse style resellers. Resellers just like Newegg, Wal-MArt etc. They have done this for as long as they have been in business. You really didnt think that one thru now did you, on your oh-so educated retort.
EH?
What problem exactly?
its TELLING you to intgrate the floppy F6 Drivers into the installation using nLite. Which I believe is what the origianl poster you replied to said in the first place. nLite makes it easier as you dont have to manunally edit the winnt.sif files and make the scripts.
If you integrate all your floppy text mode drivers with nlite you WONT get that problem as it states in the last sentance.
so how is that a problem? unless you make it a problem?
Off topic, but related to the iPhone
Dont you think its funny that slashdot didnt run the story that on tuesday Apple's shares fell to the lowest they have ever been in seven years... Funny that dont you think?
http://www.physorg.com/news104518387.html
After all be it from slashdot to make Apple look bad....
If that was a Micro$oft share drop they would have been all over it in a heartbeat
Bub bye slashdot..
It doesnt take any effort at all if you use nLite http://www.nliteos.com/
If you cant do it using that then there is no hope for you.
Most people who pirate Windows dont use Windows update anyway, they use Autopatcher.
Seeing that Autopatcher has ALL the security and windows updates that renders that argument null and void.
You are missing the point. AT&T is the only carrier.. That means it wont work where I live as GSM sucks up here and AT&T dont have any kind of presance at all. CDMA is the dominant market here in Northern New Hampshire. So you have the choice of US Cellular or Verizon. Both of which DONT & WONT carry the iPhone.
I can get a Treo on Verizon no problem and it works up here.. AT&T Simply does not have the same market share here that it does in other states.
Now do you see the multiple carrier argument? God I hope so..
Now lets hope that no-one hacks into Valve's Network again and thus delaying the title again for a year!
One thing is, whatever happened to the episodes being released in 6 months apart from eachother??
I still think it would have just been better to release them all in one seperate game. Half Life 2.5 so to speak..
Probably never. and here is the reason why
Motorola, LG, Samsung, Kyocera, etc all have thier software updating tools and firmware tools for phone repair and upgrades etc. These are called in the biz as PST's or RSD tools
Im pretty sure that Apple wont be releasing these to the wireless carriers, just like RIM dont for thier blackberry line. RIM do all the repairs, updgrades etc on thier hardware.
Not Motorola on the other hand you can get the firmware updates and software to do it yourself (if you know where to look) Motorola also offer firmware updates for the Razr currently for you to do yourself.
Apple afaik are taking the RIM Approach to thier iPhone... Only Apple will be able to do anything with them (software wise) therefore reducing the possibility of an unlocked iPhone considerably
I totally agree.
That and the fact that Bungie havent released one jaw dropping game EVER.
Marathon - Shit
Oni - Shit
Halo 1,2 and probably 3 - Intergalactic turds
Even Half Life 1 is better than all the Halo games put together... Crap... its a conspiracy I tell you
Awww Troll???
Why?
Does the truth hurt maybe?
Typical Mac users
Hell, my 7800GT 256MB that I have had for nearly TWO years is only just beginning to stuggle with some titles.. I have always upgraded my Video Card around every 18 months or so.
Anyone saying that you need to upgrade every 4-6 months is just jealous and does not know what they are talking about
And then complaining about the lack of Mac versions of Crysis, Unreal Tournament 2007, Half Life2 Episode 2, Starcraft 2 etc etc etc.. that your Mac wouldnt even have 20% of the graphics power to run them at full speed in native Mac format or by Bootcamp with Windows...
Oh its nice to see that you will get a Harry Potter game, oh and a racing game thats almost 12 months old (and will look worse than the PC version)
Your argument is stupid, as are you
pffft... Macpaint was owned by Dpaint on the Amiga... Thing is that I find funny, that its taken 8 versions to have a Draw Circle Tool in Photoshop... I mean WTF??? The Amiga Dpaint had that from Day one. Dry to draw a lined circle on anything other than Photoshop CS3.
Its stupidly long winded and requires more than one click.. Dont get me wrong I love Photoshop, but its got some serious flaws (and bloat)
Its nothing to do with the Pirate Bay you idiot... Its the fact that they are also part of the seeders. You need an IP Blocklist to help with your downloading, so really the fault is your own for not putting up the require barriers and just downloading willy nilly..
I have been downloading stuff for years and years (and of that the good stuff I do buy. I like to try before I buy something a lot of people seem to have a poor grasp of) and I have yet to have a takedown notice..... Its really your own fault, so instead of fucking the RIAA, and the MPAA why dont you fuck yourself for a change...
Oh wait... you did that already...
Acutally a mouse IS better because you can move it fast and thus turn faster.. The Joypad only does this to a very small degree in comparison.
Also you are always correcting your aim with the joypad using a thumb (and its generally up, down left right corrections) and it feels so much more restrictive than a good high dpi laser optic mouse ever will.
Its like playing a racing game with a wheel then playing the same game on keyboard. The differences between the two are exactly the same.
can you play the game any better?... no... But the wheel just repsonds/feels better than tapping some keys ever will.
Well of COURSE its not getting the Viewership... trying to watch ANYTHING on SciFi is horrible. 5 mins of show, 5 mins of commercials, 5 mins of show, 5 mins of commercials.. Other channels are bad (ABC etc) but they are nowhere near as bad as Sci-fi. I think Spike is probably nearest to it. I watched the first Mini-series on SciFi, now for the other seasons, I wait till they are out on DVD and watch them how they are indtended, not on what SciFi's terms of force feeding me Enzyte, wrestling commercials etc and interuptting the story flow.
Thats funny, because I just turned on my variable Solder Station. Set it to 365 F and it doesnt even melt the solder at all... (yes its 60/40)..
... Still no melt..
so I moved to dail to 380F... Still no melt..
So I moved to dail to 415f
Theory holding up here isnt it?
In fact it only started melting at 420F