nope, read the spec sheets on the projected AMD cpus - 90-100 watts maximum, and that means their high end stuff. The slower chips will be around 80 I bet. You're forgetting that these chips will be on the 90nm process at first, and then as speeds ramp, you'll see them on the 65nm process by 2006. That simply means no more heat than a single P4 puts out right now. AMD chips are currently very cool compared to Intels. Ofcourse, the clock speed has a lot to do with that. SOI is the other part.
It's not much different - that's the point. 2 processors in a single socket, saves a lot of money production wise, and that should pass onto the consumer. AMD has said their's is backward comaptible, and that's huge. You already got a single cpu opteron workstation? Well now you can have a dual cpu one for the price of a single cpu upgrade. That kicks ass.
Well, for one thing we have accountants dealing with different clients - many accountants, not just a couple. Each accountant would have to have their own account... which they could access seperately. What is the point of having 2 email accounts?? I'm not sure, because either one would get as much spam as the other.
Yes, we also have what is called an online tax organizer, which uses SSL and all that - that's what 90% of our clients use. However, there are some that fill out a pdf instead of going online to do it so they can do it on planes, etc. Then when they get access to email, the send it off, compressed and encrypted. It works fine. Back to the original point - we rely on email, so a spam blocker that flags a real message as spam is unaccepatble.
Yes, it's secure - and we do have most of our users whitelisted... but sometimes they'll send us something from a different email (one from work instead of from home) for example. And the reason they use email is because they are half way around the world from us, so the time difference almost makes it impossible to call us when we're open during business hours, so email is a perfect solution, or atleast it used to be.
In our business, lost emails are VERY expensive. Clients email us tax information that has to get to us by a deadline - and you have hundreds of clients doing that each day - let's say you were filing a tax return for one of these clients, and they sent you an earlier email with their W2 information... then let's say you started processing their tax return. Then, imagine if that client had emailed you a modification to the W2 that you didn't get, and the client didn't know you didn't get. The return gets filed incorrectly, and the taxpayer then gets penalized in one of a few ways by the IRS. We deal with very wealthy individuals - so a mistake on their return could cost the client thousands of dollars.... all in the name of stopping SPAM. That is not acceptable in the case of my company. I can see how it might be for some companys, but certainly not ours.
You're right - one in 25,000 is completely unacceptable. My company gets 4x that amount of email a day through our exchange server, and if we missed 4 legit client emails a day... that would be lost business, and that's just unacceptable no matter how you look at it.
My point is that Netscape offers nothing but extra pop ups and a million different damn AOL shortcuts on my desktop over Mozilla. Even when I tell the installer not to install AOL stuff, I still get it. Mozilla is clear of all that - as far as ads, that's what I was talking about, and obviously the modders realized that and that's why they modded it up.
Easy - ad revenue. Have you tried using the latest Netscape release? It's horrid - I'd rather use IE. Ofcourse, I use Mozilla which is simply Netscape without all the junk ads and it's more on the cutting edge since Netscape simply rebrands Mozilla, and that obviously takes time to do - so by downloading the latest Mozilla, you're getting a better browser.
Actually, no. Nvidia suggests a 480 (they have since lowered this slightly) to compensate for the tons of power the new 6800 cards. Now imagine having 2 of these in your system. I was half way joking in my original post, but in all seriousness, you will need lots of power because any of their new cards (NV6X series) will have multiple power connectors on them requiring their own rails, or power connectors. If you double that, that's 4 seperate rails you need to be on! So I'm sorry, but a 350 watt psu just ain't gonna cut it for the new Nvidia cards in SLI mode.
I guess by Christmas Nvidia will have released the Nforce4 chipset, which supports PCI Express. So, if you were to purchase a socket 939 AMD64 chip and one of these new boards, not only would you have a single PCI Express slot, but you'd have two! The new Nvidia chipset being worked on supposedly supports 2 slots for SLI gaming, which would be cool if I could afford it. I would think you'd need a 600 watt power supply or something though. And don't quote me on the Christmas thing, I had just read somewhere that by the holidays Nvidia planned on having that chipset for sale. Who knows when it will actually happen.
Yeah, I have to second that. If you know anybody who has this, smack them first and next go out and steal it so they can't use it. It will only make things worse for the rest of us who choose not to use it or support it. Insurance is a rip off already, and this will only make it worse. What they really are telling people is that they won't give you discounts, but figure out how to penalize you for speeding. Next thing you know, everybody will have to have one, and that's bad because then you'll get tickets in the mail instead of from police along highways.
I mostly agree with you - until we think about the fact that HP has licensed this technology and will be building players based on the standard. That changes everything.
It's a blessing, and here's why. Earlier in the year Jobs said Apple makes no money off songs sold on iTunes, correct? Well, if he was telling the truth, Apple stands only to make money with the iPod sales. In which case, other online music stores selling music that works with the iPod could only benefit Apple. Unless somebody comes out with a device that holds as much as the iPod that also plays those type of files....
I didn't get mine - and neither did my brother or parents. We all registered the same, so unless there are some punk kids running around stealing checks out of mailboxes, they still owe me money.
Yes, but for the same price for both OS versions, it makes no sense to go with Win2k when 2k3 will be around longer and has more features. As you've shown, 2K will die out 3 years before 03.
Win2k3 is Win2k SP5:) No, seriously though - have a look at the version number of the OS sometime. You'll laugh.
Windows 2000 - Windows NT 5.0 Windows XP - Windows NT 5.1 Windows 2003 - Windows NT 5.2
Something tells me there is nothing ground breaking going on from version to version! In all seriousness though, go with 2003 or you'll be sorry. I say this because it's only going to be a few years I bet before Microsoft drops support for patches for 2K. You don't want to spend a ton of money only to have to do it again very soon for 2003. Also, 2003 is more stable than 2K out of the box, and that counts for something. Driver support is also much better, the ability to roll back drivers, etc.
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Oh, I know it crushes the opteron - it's just that the post said P4, and I have no idea why because nobody was talking about the P4.
Yes, but we're not talking about if the Itanium has better FPU than the P4 - we're talking about the AMD opteron.
nope, read the spec sheets on the projected AMD cpus - 90-100 watts maximum, and that means their high end stuff. The slower chips will be around 80 I bet. You're forgetting that these chips will be on the 90nm process at first, and then as speeds ramp, you'll see them on the 65nm process by 2006. That simply means no more heat than a single P4 puts out right now. AMD chips are currently very cool compared to Intels. Ofcourse, the clock speed has a lot to do with that. SOI is the other part.
It's not much different - that's the point. 2 processors in a single socket, saves a lot of money production wise, and that should pass onto the consumer. AMD has said their's is backward comaptible, and that's huge. You already got a single cpu opteron workstation? Well now you can have a dual cpu one for the price of a single cpu upgrade. That kicks ass.
Well, for one thing we have accountants dealing with different clients - many accountants, not just a couple. Each accountant would have to have their own account... which they could access seperately. What is the point of having 2 email accounts?? I'm not sure, because either one would get as much spam as the other.
Yes, we also have what is called an online tax organizer, which uses SSL and all that - that's what 90% of our clients use. However, there are some that fill out a pdf instead of going online to do it so they can do it on planes, etc. Then when they get access to email, the send it off, compressed and encrypted. It works fine. Back to the original point - we rely on email, so a spam blocker that flags a real message as spam is unaccepatble.
Yes, we do require them to encrypt their data - in encrypted attachments. It's quite simple and effective.
Yes, it's secure - and we do have most of our users whitelisted... but sometimes they'll send us something from a different email (one from work instead of from home) for example. And the reason they use email is because they are half way around the world from us, so the time difference almost makes it impossible to call us when we're open during business hours, so email is a perfect solution, or atleast it used to be.
In our business, lost emails are VERY expensive. Clients email us tax information that has to get to us by a deadline - and you have hundreds of clients doing that each day - let's say you were filing a tax return for one of these clients, and they sent you an earlier email with their W2 information... then let's say you started processing their tax return. Then, imagine if that client had emailed you a modification to the W2 that you didn't get, and the client didn't know you didn't get. The return gets filed incorrectly, and the taxpayer then gets penalized in one of a few ways by the IRS. We deal with very wealthy individuals - so a mistake on their return could cost the client thousands of dollars.... all in the name of stopping SPAM. That is not acceptable in the case of my company. I can see how it might be for some companys, but certainly not ours.
You're right - one in 25,000 is completely unacceptable. My company gets 4x that amount of email a day through our exchange server, and if we missed 4 legit client emails a day... that would be lost business, and that's just unacceptable no matter how you look at it.
My point is that Netscape offers nothing but extra pop ups and a million different damn AOL shortcuts on my desktop over Mozilla. Even when I tell the installer not to install AOL stuff, I still get it. Mozilla is clear of all that - as far as ads, that's what I was talking about, and obviously the modders realized that and that's why they modded it up.
Easy - ad revenue. Have you tried using the latest Netscape release? It's horrid - I'd rather use IE. Ofcourse, I use Mozilla which is simply Netscape without all the junk ads and it's more on the cutting edge since Netscape simply rebrands Mozilla, and that obviously takes time to do - so by downloading the latest Mozilla, you're getting a better browser.
Actually, no. Nvidia suggests a 480 (they have since lowered this slightly) to compensate for the tons of power the new 6800 cards. Now imagine having 2 of these in your system. I was half way joking in my original post, but in all seriousness, you will need lots of power because any of their new cards (NV6X series) will have multiple power connectors on them requiring their own rails, or power connectors. If you double that, that's 4 seperate rails you need to be on! So I'm sorry, but a 350 watt psu just ain't gonna cut it for the new Nvidia cards in SLI mode.
I guess by Christmas Nvidia will have released the Nforce4 chipset, which supports PCI Express. So, if you were to purchase a socket 939 AMD64 chip and one of these new boards, not only would you have a single PCI Express slot, but you'd have two! The new Nvidia chipset being worked on supposedly supports 2 slots for SLI gaming, which would be cool if I could afford it. I would think you'd need a 600 watt power supply or something though. And don't quote me on the Christmas thing, I had just read somewhere that by the holidays Nvidia planned on having that chipset for sale. Who knows when it will actually happen.
I don't know about the amount of interferance, but I'm sure the amount of cancer being caused by these things will increase expontentially ;)
Yeah, I have to second that. If you know anybody who has this, smack them first and next go out and steal it so they can't use it. It will only make things worse for the rest of us who choose not to use it or support it. Insurance is a rip off already, and this will only make it worse. What they really are telling people is that they won't give you discounts, but figure out how to penalize you for speeding. Next thing you know, everybody will have to have one, and that's bad because then you'll get tickets in the mail instead of from police along highways.
Are you a total retard? Have you heard anything about browser hijacking and urls that appear to be from one site that are really asked as another?
Is this real?? Can someone verify this is right?
I mostly agree with you - until we think about the fact that HP has licensed this technology and will be building players based on the standard. That changes everything.
It's a blessing, and here's why. Earlier in the year Jobs said Apple makes no money off songs sold on iTunes, correct? Well, if he was telling the truth, Apple stands only to make money with the iPod sales. In which case, other online music stores selling music that works with the iPod could only benefit Apple. Unless somebody comes out with a device that holds as much as the iPod that also plays those type of files....
I didn't get mine - and neither did my brother or parents. We all registered the same, so unless there are some punk kids running around stealing checks out of mailboxes, they still owe me money.
Yes, but for the same price for both OS versions, it makes no sense to go with Win2k when 2k3 will be around longer and has more features. As you've shown, 2K will die out 3 years before 03.
Win2k3 is Win2k SP5 :) No, seriously though - have a look at the version number of the OS sometime. You'll laugh.
Windows 2000 - Windows NT 5.0
Windows XP - Windows NT 5.1
Windows 2003 - Windows NT 5.2
Something tells me there is nothing ground breaking going on from version to version! In all seriousness though, go with 2003 or you'll be sorry. I say this because it's only going to be a few years I bet before Microsoft drops support for patches for 2K. You don't want to spend a ton of money only to have to do it again very soon for 2003. Also, 2003 is more stable than 2K out of the box, and that counts for something. Driver support is also much better, the ability to roll back drivers, etc.
It's a crappy PS2 game that allows you to kill hookers and steal cars. Some people seem to enjoy that sort of thing...
You forgot - this guy was his boss. He could have been fired by him I'm sure - and higher ups wouldn't even hear about it.