Thanks for the clarification. The reason I was asking was because the last time TRON was mentioned on slashdot, it was in an article calling it "the unknown open-source OS".. that is where I posted my previous question that I linked to (which went unanswered even though it was +5). So that article is totally misleading and false.
I said it before and I'll say it again: where can I find the source and the license to tron? It seems that tron is more of an open specification of a RTOS, and there are a ton of closed binary-only implementations.
This actually kinda reminds me of the MIPS processor architechure.. there is an open specification and lots of people produce chips for the ISA.. but it wasn't until opencores came along that there was an open implementation.. and there is no open implementation for TRON yet, AFAIK.
Is tron open-source? Where is the code? Where is the license? Whats the story here? If it really is open-source, why can't someone point to the code? Something is fishy here.. or perhaps its just lost in the translation.. but I can't figure this out.
I can remember one time in Delaware, we intentionally put a forecasted high temp for the day 6 degrees too high and watched 3 of the local channels quote it.
Now we know you're lying. Delaware has 3 local broadcasters! Ha! Who would believe such hyperbole. We all know that Delaware is so small that a single antenna barely fits in the whole state.
This is pretty off-topic, since it has nothing to do with the GPL or anything.. but has anyone else noticed that Dean is using too much makeup during his on-camera appearances? He looks much more plastic than the other candidates at the debates.. and just ends up looking out-of-place.
I'm just wondering if anyone else has noticed this.. or am I just a crazy person?
I use "full spectrum" lighting in fish tanks, because it looks good.. but who the heck would believe that full-spectrum light would have health benefits? (except maybe to plants)
a lot of valid Open Source projects cannot abide by this license since they at some point, even if just for a short while, might not qualify for the Open Source license the agreement with Perforce states (like, including BSD code temporarily in a GPL project with the intent of doing a rewrite before release).
Including BSD licensed code with a GPL project is not in any way violating either license. The BSD code remains under the BSD license and the project as a whole under the GPL. There is plenty of BSD-licensed code in the Linux kernel for example.
The GPL says that any license may be used as long as there are no ADDITIONAL restrictions (such as the BSD+advertising clause).
This is tangential from your cause for concern, but I thought this should be clarified.
Then the drivers will check a md5sum of the executable.. or they'll search for certain signatures within the file.. plenty of options.. it would be an arms race of sorts. There's no way to gurantee it.
This is the probelem: the graphics drivers check the process/executable to see what program is making the graphics calls. If it matches a known target profile (benchmarking, quake3, etc), the graphics are tuned.
The problem here is that the Windows driver model allows the driver to check what program is making calls into it. This is not a bad thing by itself, so I wouldn't advocate getting rid of it.
So.. lets say you make a new benchmarking program and you don't leak any copies out to the graphics people. What happen when you release it? It might work and be fair on the current batch of drivers.. but as soon as the graphics people get their hands on it, there's nothing you can do to prevent them from "optimizing" (tuning down rendering) for your benchmark.
So maybe you can make a fair benchmark today. But as soon as you give it to anyone, don't bet on it being fair on the next driver revision.
I live in Palo Alto, but I havn't been following the case. Driving in California is scary enough without people like her on the road.
Is it true that the judge couldn't give her a stronger sentence? I didn't realize that. I thought the judge was being lenient.
I've heard reports that there's some kind of evidence that the girl flipped over the hood of the car. If that is the case, then the prosecutors majorly fucked up. They should have charged her with Manslaughter in the 1st or something.. her claim of not realizing/remembering would be out the window then.
You must have a warped world view to advocate having people jailed for costing you time and money. Especially in a world where someone only gets 1 year for a hit-and-run that killed a little girl and maimed another.
Ninety of the blocked servers were from Taiwan, eight were from the mainland and 29 were from elsewhere, Xinhua said, without providing other details.
Now we see the real agenda here. This is just another round of annoyances that China is imposing on Taiwan. Nothing to see here, no real spam blocking, just more propoganda.. or perhaps (tin foil hat on) they are blocking political messages/organizations from Taiwan and elsewhere?
Perhaps the most influential bugs of all time were those that allowed the Morris worm to propogate. Sendmail, fingerd, rsh/rexec.. all to blame. The worm led to the formation of CERT. Quite influential.
About out-of-the-way places like Utica.. they don't seem like the most likely targets, I agree.. But all it takes is one crazy white boy to do something like the Oklahoma City bombing.
Granted, the likelyhood of this is much lower than other places.. but it shouldn't be ruled out.
HP & Intel jointly created IA-64. Its now Intel's baby, but HP was a major contributer. The IA-64 processor line is to replace HPPA 2.0 for HPUX installations in the future. HPUX 11.20 (aka 11i v1.5) is currently available on IA-64.
So HP certainly would have an issue with the IA-64 Linux code. Of course, that issue is moot since it came from a legal source.
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Thanks for the clarification. The reason I was asking was because the last time TRON was mentioned on slashdot, it was in an article calling it "the unknown open-source OS".. that is where I posted my previous question that I linked to (which went unanswered even though it was +5). So that article is totally misleading and false.
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I said it before and I'll say it again: where can I find the source and the license to tron? It seems that tron is more of an open specification of a RTOS, and there are a ton of closed binary-only implementations.
This actually kinda reminds me of the MIPS processor architechure.. there is an open specification and lots of people produce chips for the ISA.. but it wasn't until opencores came along that there was an open implementation.. and there is no open implementation for TRON yet, AFAIK.
Is tron open-source? Where is the code? Where is the license? Whats the story here? If it really is open-source, why can't someone point to the code? Something is fishy here.. or perhaps its just lost in the translation.. but I can't figure this out.
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I can remember one time in Delaware, we intentionally put a forecasted high temp for the day 6 degrees too high and watched 3 of the local channels quote it.
:)
Now we know you're lying. Delaware has 3 local broadcasters! Ha! Who would believe such hyperbole. We all know that Delaware is so small that a single antenna barely fits in the whole state.
Nice try.
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This is pretty off-topic, since it has nothing to do with the GPL or anything.. but has anyone else noticed that Dean is using too much makeup during his on-camera appearances? He looks much more plastic than the other candidates at the debates.. and just ends up looking out-of-place.
I'm just wondering if anyone else has noticed this.. or am I just a crazy person?
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The correction should have been:
s/software/data interchange formats/g
Its a glaring error, I agree.. but its the right idea.
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I use "full spectrum" lighting in fish tanks, because it looks good.. but who the heck would believe that full-spectrum light would have health benefits? (except maybe to plants)
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a lot of valid Open Source projects cannot abide by this license since they at some point, even if just for a short while, might not qualify for the Open Source license the agreement with Perforce states (like, including BSD code temporarily in a GPL project with the intent of doing a rewrite before release).
Including BSD licensed code with a GPL project is not in any way violating either license. The BSD code remains under the BSD license and the project as a whole under the GPL. There is plenty of BSD-licensed code in the Linux kernel for example.
The GPL says that any license may be used as long as there are no ADDITIONAL restrictions (such as the BSD+advertising clause).
This is tangential from your cause for concern, but I thought this should be clarified.
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Then the drivers will check a md5sum of the executable.. or they'll search for certain signatures within the file.. plenty of options.. it would be an arms race of sorts. There's no way to gurantee it.
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This is the probelem: the graphics drivers check the process/executable to see what program is making the graphics calls. If it matches a known target profile (benchmarking, quake3, etc), the graphics are tuned.
The problem here is that the Windows driver model allows the driver to check what program is making calls into it. This is not a bad thing by itself, so I wouldn't advocate getting rid of it.
So.. lets say you make a new benchmarking program and you don't leak any copies out to the graphics people. What happen when you release it? It might work and be fair on the current batch of drivers.. but as soon as the graphics people get their hands on it, there's nothing you can do to prevent them from "optimizing" (tuning down rendering) for your benchmark.
So maybe you can make a fair benchmark today. But as soon as you give it to anyone, don't bet on it being fair on the next driver revision.
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This is likely the Swen/Gibe.F worm. More info at news.com.
An interesting thing about this work is that it hits a web counter on each infection! Its currently at 913,000 at 2:45 PDT (GMT-7).
Also, this exploits an OLD IE hole. This is not a new bug.. but I guess not many people are patched?
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Leaving that 6-year-old to die on the pavement is no accident.
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I live in Palo Alto, but I havn't been following the case. Driving in California is scary enough without people like her on the road.
Is it true that the judge couldn't give her a stronger sentence? I didn't realize that. I thought the judge was being lenient.
I've heard reports that there's some kind of evidence that the girl flipped over the hood of the car. If that is the case, then the prosecutors majorly fucked up. They should have charged her with Manslaughter in the 1st or something.. her claim of not realizing/remembering would be out the window then.
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Hah! What is your native language?
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You must have a warped world view to advocate having people jailed for costing you time and money. Especially in a world where someone only gets 1 year for a hit-and-run that killed a little girl and maimed another.
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Debian release history.
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030703
I have Java and flash:
Java(TM) Plug-in 1.3.1_01
Shockwave Flash 4.0 r12
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Stop isn't available during the refresh.
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Doesn't work on Mozilla. There's some kind of infinite reloading loop.
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Ninety of the blocked servers were from Taiwan, eight were from the mainland and 29 were from elsewhere, Xinhua said, without providing other details.
Now we see the real agenda here. This is just another round of annoyances that China is imposing on Taiwan. Nothing to see here, no real spam blocking, just more propoganda.. or perhaps (tin foil hat on) they are blocking political messages/organizations from Taiwan and elsewhere?
I think that is actually more likely.
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Perhaps the most influential bugs of all time were those that allowed the Morris worm to propogate. Sendmail, fingerd, rsh/rexec.. all to blame. The worm led to the formation of CERT. Quite influential.
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For those that don't know, there is Debian Archive of older versions. I think ibiblio has this beat with 0.91 Beta though (Jan 94).
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About out-of-the-way places like Utica.. they don't seem like the most likely targets, I agree.. But all it takes is one crazy white boy to do something like the Oklahoma City bombing.
Granted, the likelyhood of this is much lower than other places.. but it shouldn't be ruled out.
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That message is signed with a pgp key. However, the key doesn't seem to be available on the public key servers, so how can we validate the message?
If anyone has DSA key 0x7525EC32, please speak up.
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HP & Intel jointly created IA-64. Its now Intel's baby, but HP was a major contributer. The IA-64 processor line is to replace HPPA 2.0 for HPUX installations in the future. HPUX 11.20 (aka 11i v1.5) is currently available on IA-64.
So HP certainly would have an issue with the IA-64 Linux code. Of course, that issue is moot since it came from a legal source.
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Why not use mplayer instead of quicktime/wine?
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