There is also the problem of the Second Law of Thermodynamics and as well the scientific principle that all things tend to degrade over time - completely opposite of the evolutionary logic. Funny though that the first two things mentioned are observable and reproducible, the latter is not.
I really don't understand where this thinking comes from. The Second Law of Thermodynamics is one of the most accepted laws in science. If a theory contradicts the second law, then the theory is wrong. Nothing short of absolutely empirical proof that the laws of thermodynamics is wrong will make anyone even look twice at such a theory.
The fact that Evolution is still a well accepted theory would then mean one of three things
1) Scientists haven't noticed that it contradicts the second law of thermodynamics 2) Scientists know that it does, but there's a huge conspiracy hiding the fact 3) Evolution doesn't contradict the second law of thermodynamics.
Given that 1 is plain ridiculous, and while many people believe 2, it would be difficult to shut every scientist who knows a little bit up, then the solution to this problem must be 3.
People who bring up this argument instantly show they have no idea what they are talking about (luckily you did it right at the end, so a lazy reader might think you have a clue). Although the previous poster gave you a challenge, I would prefer bring some more education into the world so that people will stop trotting out this useless and wrong argument, and find a different wrong argument to bring up.
The laws of thermodynamics are thus (simplified):
0) two objects that are in contact will exchange thermal energy until they are in equilibrium 1) energy can't be created or destroyed 2) entropy (energy lost has heat) will always go up no matter what (amount of order will always decrease) 3) as temperature approaches 0, entropy approaches a constant
now looking at these four laws, I can find something that 'invalidates' them:
0) a fridge. it's colder than outside and always remains so 1) coal/oil. Energy is being created... Where does it come from? 2) plant growing will be more ordered after as before 3) (ok I have no idea here)
well, those laws are looking pretty silly no? What people always fail to notice (or conveniently ignore) is that the laws of thermodynamics only apply to a closed system. That is, one with no outside influence. A fridge is allowed to hold back thermodynamics because we are pouring energy into it from our power plants. The oil/coal is allowed to be burned in those power plants because they came from the plants that have grown. And the plants can grow because there is an influx of energy that is (as we should all now know), the Sun.
This same energy source is what allows for evolution. It is the energy from the Sun that allows simple things to become more complex things, thus not defying the second law of thermodynamics even though Intelligent Design pushers would love it to be true. So next time you're trying to discredit evolution, you might want to try a different argument
Darwin's famous book is called "The Origin of Species" and deals with how the different species came into existence, not how life came into existence. Abiogenisis is the study of the origin of life itself, a completely different field from evolution.
Evolution is the term given to "Macroevolution" or evolution on a large scale, involving creating new species that cannot interbreed, and that is what is disputed in the religious world.
Only the most absolutely ignorant religious fundies believe "Microevolution", evolution on a small scale, isn't around us everywhere.
another example of something that can be disproven but not proven is every scientific theory, such es (for example) the Theory of Evolution.
It is essentially the act of being falsifiable that actually makes Evolution a real scientific theory, and the fact that it has stood for so long (with modifications) that makes it so widely accepted.
actually I used to do a whole lot of equations in word. Getting sick of clicking, I found out there are shortcuts for most things in word, and it made writing equations MUCH quicker. Google is your friend here.
One thing I like about Word's equation editor is that it shows up instantly as you type, OO'o, while I prefer the way equations are written in it (since I'm a coder), is incredibly slow in actually showing me what the equation looks like.
Give me oo's syntax, with Word's speed, and I'll be happy =)
the contradiction (which isn't clear in TFSummary) is that the supply was intentionally kept back. That is what GameSpot is accusing and Nintendo is denying.
I think openSUSE is a better option personally. Ubuntu still has too many "drop to the console" moments, where things just can't be done with a gui (I still love it, I'm not afraid of a console). YaST is an excellent tool.
What happened to the "porting YaST to debian" project?
...all at the push of a button. The glasses will let the wearer instantly change the color of their lenses to virtually any hue by tuning a tiny electronic knob in the frame.
well? are we pushing a button or turning a knob? Make up your mind, people!
you have to remember as well that ramping up production is not cheap and quick. It takes time, it costs a lot of money, and if in two months the demand drops back, then you've essentially got a factory that's all kitted out and is essentially a huge waste of money.
Nintendo is a very conservative company, and as such, they would be more likely to just try to ride out the wave rather than spending huge amounts of money ramping up production only to be overproducing and having wasted all that money
The reason they released the Wii earlier in US was because the holiday season in US is much more important than Japan, and Thanksgiving is a large part of that. It appeared to be a genius move since from the stores I heard everyone took their Wii along to the thanksgiving gathering, and exposed it to the non-gamer crowd, building a huge amount of hype.
Remember they released the DS Lite in Australia before US;). That didn't set any precedent unfortunately, we still get screwed over regularly here (only just got Phoenix Wright 1 =( )
I like gnome better because I don't HAVE to configure it. I can't help but think kde looks utt ugly out of the box.
of course, that's my personal opinion. I also can't stand the incredible masses of toolbars, tabs, etc that the average kde app has. I think both desktops have issues in opposite directions, but gnome requires less effort to get it likeable so it's justified for me.
yeah I notice the restricted modules occasionally lag behind the kernel release. I solve this issue by simply not installing the kernel update unless the restricted modules are also updated.
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just to be the devil's advocate, Metroid Prime: Hunters had pre-rendered cutscenes (and it's really obvious too)
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never is a big word
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well it would be more useful if daylight savings began on april fools day. At least then it'd go for one hour less...
sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but there's a it of a power struggle between ITS and the rest of the University, and I think ITS is going to win.
The result of that struggle, if ITS wins, will be the end of the cs.rmit.edu.au domain, and the migration of all courses to Blackboard.
It won't bother me though, I'll be gone at the end of the year (with any luck)
I never said that this wasn't true. All I stated was the creationist viewpoint on micro vs macro evolution.
I really don't understand where this thinking comes from. The Second Law of Thermodynamics is one of the most accepted laws in science. If a theory contradicts the second law, then the theory is wrong. Nothing short of absolutely empirical proof that the laws of thermodynamics is wrong will make anyone even look twice at such a theory.
The fact that Evolution is still a well accepted theory would then mean one of three things
1) Scientists haven't noticed that it contradicts the second law of thermodynamics
2) Scientists know that it does, but there's a huge conspiracy hiding the fact
3) Evolution doesn't contradict the second law of thermodynamics.
Given that 1 is plain ridiculous, and while many people believe 2, it would be difficult to shut every scientist who knows a little bit up, then the solution to this problem must be 3.
People who bring up this argument instantly show they have no idea what they are talking about (luckily you did it right at the end, so a lazy reader might think you have a clue). Although the previous poster gave you a challenge, I would prefer bring some more education into the world so that people will stop trotting out this useless and wrong argument, and find a different wrong argument to bring up.
The laws of thermodynamics are thus (simplified):
0) two objects that are in contact will exchange thermal energy until they are in equilibrium
1) energy can't be created or destroyed
2) entropy (energy lost has heat) will always go up no matter what (amount of order will always decrease)
3) as temperature approaches 0, entropy approaches a constant
now looking at these four laws, I can find something that 'invalidates' them:
0) a fridge. it's colder than outside and always remains so
1) coal/oil. Energy is being created... Where does it come from?
2) plant growing will be more ordered after as before
3) (ok I have no idea here)
well, those laws are looking pretty silly no? What people always fail to notice (or conveniently ignore) is that the laws of thermodynamics only apply to a closed system. That is, one with no outside influence. A fridge is allowed to hold back thermodynamics because we are pouring energy into it from our power plants. The oil/coal is allowed to be burned in those power plants because they came from the plants that have grown. And the plants can grow because there is an influx of energy that is (as we should all now know), the Sun.
This same energy source is what allows for evolution. It is the energy from the Sun that allows simple things to become more complex things, thus not defying the second law of thermodynamics even though Intelligent Design pushers would love it to be true. So next time you're trying to discredit evolution, you might want to try a different argument
Yes. This is slashdot.
I was wondering why there was suddenly an influx of "double redundant posts" on slashdot.
that's because it's not TRYING to answer that question. Look up Abiogenisis
damn AC's hiding their informative posts.
Darwin's famous book is called "The Origin of Species" and deals with how the different species came into existence, not how life came into existence. Abiogenisis is the study of the origin of life itself, a completely different field from evolution.
Evolution is the term given to "Macroevolution" or evolution on a large scale, involving creating new species that cannot interbreed, and that is what is disputed in the religious world.
Only the most absolutely ignorant religious fundies believe "Microevolution", evolution on a small scale, isn't around us everywhere.
another example of something that can be disproven but not proven is every scientific theory, such es (for example) the Theory of Evolution.
It is essentially the act of being falsifiable that actually makes Evolution a real scientific theory, and the fact that it has stood for so long (with modifications) that makes it so widely accepted.
you must be an RMIT student...
actually I used to do a whole lot of equations in word. Getting sick of clicking, I found out there are shortcuts for most things in word, and it made writing equations MUCH quicker. Google is your friend here.
One thing I like about Word's equation editor is that it shows up instantly as you type, OO'o, while I prefer the way equations are written in it (since I'm a coder), is incredibly slow in actually showing me what the equation looks like.
Give me oo's syntax, with Word's speed, and I'll be happy =)
so MS Office is less than 200 MB after installation now?
the contradiction (which isn't clear in TFSummary) is that the supply was intentionally kept back. That is what GameSpot is accusing and Nintendo is denying.
he said strong commercial backing. Much as I like Ubuntu, Canonical is still finding its wings, and still lives off the charity of Mark Shuttleworth
I think openSUSE is a better option personally. Ubuntu still has too many "drop to the console" moments, where things just can't be done with a gui (I still love it, I'm not afraid of a console). YaST is an excellent tool.
What happened to the "porting YaST to debian" project?
well? are we pushing a button or turning a knob? Make up your mind, people!
or it could e that they announced a ramp up in April to cover the fact that they've been withholding stock.
I still think it would be stupid of them, but, it appears everyone seems to think purposely withholding stock is the norm in the console wars.
you have to remember as well that ramping up production is not cheap and quick. It takes time, it costs a lot of money, and if in two months the demand drops back, then you've essentially got a factory that's all kitted out and is essentially a huge waste of money.
Nintendo is a very conservative company, and as such, they would be more likely to just try to ride out the wave rather than spending huge amounts of money ramping up production only to be overproducing and having wasted all that money
The reason they released the Wii earlier in US was because the holiday season in US is much more important than Japan, and Thanksgiving is a large part of that. It appeared to be a genius move since from the stores I heard everyone took their Wii along to the thanksgiving gathering, and exposed it to the non-gamer crowd, building a huge amount of hype.
;). That didn't set any precedent unfortunately, we still get screwed over regularly here (only just got Phoenix Wright 1 =( )
Remember they released the DS Lite in Australia before US
I like gnome better because I don't HAVE to configure it. I can't help but think kde looks utt ugly out of the box.
of course, that's my personal opinion. I also can't stand the incredible masses of toolbars, tabs, etc that the average kde app has. I think both desktops have issues in opposite directions, but gnome requires less effort to get it likeable so it's justified for me.
yeah I notice the restricted modules occasionally lag behind the kernel release. I solve this issue by simply not installing the kernel update unless the restricted modules are also updated.
or they could spend the $500 on purchasing the cds instead of pirating... ;)