...you should also remember they were sued, successfully, by the patent troll that claimed to own the protocol...
Which would make them not patent trolls. They defended their patents against the most well-funded legal team in existence, and showed that the protocol used their invention. They most certainly did not claim to own the protocol.
There is so much wrong with what you said, but instead of explaining it i guess i'll just go home and program my version of UBER that uses blockchain (and therefore has no 'centralized service' for you to ticket/fine) and then build in features into the app that helps users avoid under-cover cops, or allows drivers to flag riders as undercover cops so they can be identified and avoided by the other drivers. Like the original poster said, the more you tighten your grip, the more will slip through your fingers.
You go do that. Good luck distributing an app through the Apple Store or Google Play that avoids the 'centralized service' issue (if you can list it, they can find you), preemptively blacklisting tens of thousands of police before your service craters from the tickets and impounded cars, and avoiding the obstruction of justice charges.
No app distribution channel (assuming you don't cave and deanonymize yourself), no drivers, and no cozy nights at home. You'll be #winning.
It's called Imaginary Property to show the absurdity of how broken the current legal system is.
Yes, that's totally what it shows.
Due to your profession's excessive greed you guys are even patenting Math !?!?!?! Worse, the fucking algorithm is even named, Carmack's Reverse, after the person who independently discovered and shared it. Yet assholes like you think it is OK that a company can "own" another man's original and independent thought -- preventing the idea from being implemented.
He's free to think it, he's just not free to use it for a limited time. Because the people who discovered the math determined that it could be usefully applied by a computer first, disclosed it first, and got their reward. Carmack came along later, disclosed it even later (you even link to his post to a private mailing list as evidence of his sharing it), and lost out. Just like those who came later in the Oklahoma land rush. Which is for some reason OK to you because that in contrast is "real property."
The fact that you defend patents proves that you are nothing more then a leech upon society...
Well that's one social theory. Fortunately, I believe in others, and those are the ones that are ascendant.
ALL (Legal) Laws are ARTIFICIAL contracts. Physical property can't be copied and shared like "Intellectual Property."
And? What makes rivalrous matter the sine qua non of property? You can't hold on to physical property continuously either. I should be free to occupy or use it when you leave. Possession is 9/10ths and some such...
Now kindly please fuck off when you realize there are more important things then money.
So, as long as I don't realize that I can stick around. Roger wilco.
Well I live in New Zealand, one of those countries which has this tick -- in fact we only have two tick species here and this is one of them.
Neither our cattle, sheep nor people have been brought to their knees by this pest and the countryside isn't over-run with a red tide of invading creatures.
Your own veterinarians appear to disagree with you on this point: "Nymph (larval) ticks can be a major problem on newborn fawns, and young grazing lambs prior to weaning causing anaemia with deaths from blood loss in severe cases."
Well I live in New Zealand, one of those countries which has this tick -- in fact we only have two tick species here and this is one of them.
Neither our cattle, sheep nor people have been brought to their knees by this pest and the countryside isn't over-run with a red tide of invading creatures.
Quick, call the Government of Western Australia and inform them how "heavy infestations can [not] cause severe anaemia, decreased growth rates and rarely, deaths in younger cattle," because they apparently failed to receive your Hobbit memos.
If I have $100 and lend you $95 for 6 months, I've reserved 5% of the money and given you 19x the money I held in reserve. But I've still only lent out 95% of the money. I still have $5, and you still have $95. I'll very likely get that $95 back -- plus interest -- after 6 months, so even if it came from Bill's 1 year Certificate of Deposit, there was no need to keep his $100 locked in a safe deposit box. That's why I'm willing to pay Bill interest instead of charging him $5 to guard his $100 for the year.
Specifically, in this instance, something covered by merger. There are no expressive elements to the program. It is merely the simplest, most mechanical way of getting a 6502 CPU to produce that entirely non-expressive output.
Go ahead New York, go and regulate these services. All that means is another one will come in to take their place.
And be identically regulated, because these regulations are not specific to Lyft and Uber.
They might structure their business plan to avoid the rules, or simply ignore them because enforcement is impossible.
Enforcement is quite possible. Summon driver through the app. Ticket driver. Enough tickets, impound vehicle. Heck, ticket the service that sent the request to the driver while you're at it. Hard to be anonymous publishing an app. Hard to run a service like this without an app.
You want to tell people that they can't drive a friend to the airport? Good luck with that.
Because that is what is happening. I remember just last week when I wrote an app so that my friend could ask me for a ride to the airport... Oh wait... they call or text me, specifically.
I hate the whole concept of a minimum wage. The minimum wage has been and always will be zero dollars. No law will change that.
Ah yes, I see. You're a denizen of libertarian fantasyland. I'll be moving on now...
What? The concept that if you want the bank to pay you interest on deposits the bank has to do something productive with the money such as lend a significant proportion of it out in order to collect at least that amount of interest upon it? There's your research.
Non-fractional reserve banking is called a safe deposit box. You can't write negotiable instruments against it or use an ATM card to access it, and you'll pay a substantial monthly fee, but anything that you put into it is pretty much guaranteed to be there until you yourself remove it.
Fractional reserve banking also has very little to do with whether loans are made against residences vs investment properties, so no, researching it won't contradict the GPs information.
They go to Ireland and do pay taxes there. It's much lower taxes because Ireland has lower corp taxes.
And?
God handed down a rule that says that if you pay taxes in Ireland on income that you earn in another country that there shall be no other taxes upon it?
However good old physics shows that an electric motor may be able to spin and rotate a space craft [but] there isn't much it can do for course, and prevent it from leaving an orbit.
'However good old physics shows that an electric motor may be able to spin and rotate a space craft..."
What do you mean "may"? Doesn't physics tell you things like that for sure?
What about PUSHING a spacecraft? You can spin all you want, you're still slowly falling towards the thing you're orbiting. HST has no propellant to maintain its altitude, so the last part of every servicing mission was to use available propellant on the shuttle to throw it a few more Km back up.
Good old physics also shows that nothing in the universe is able to force a Slashdot reader to read and comprehend the comments that they are replying to.
The biggest fine was 1 billion for behavior much worse than Google's...
You've got that backwards. Abuse of dominance is a bit more insidious than price fixing and/or market sharing.
...over a much longer period of time.
As if duration of infringement was the sole metric. What about the value of the affected market? Why is Google's market cap 11x Daimler's? Complete irrationality, or a much larger value for the search/information market?
1 billion Euro out of an 850 billion USD market cap or 1 billion Euro out of a 75 billion market cap, which is the worse fine?
Point disproved.
They run a highly profitable trade surplus with the USA and are angry it's coming to an end. Lashing out at a symbol of America like Google is par for the course. It was a gigantic fuck you to be sure.
Google was fined because they're an American company. I can't imagine Europeans treating their own like that. It was a gigantic fuck you to America in general and Trump in particular. They sent a message, loud and clear.
No, you've sent a message. Your imagination sucks, your knowledge of how Europe treats its own is non-existent, and nobody should pay any attention to you concerning this topic.
LeBron James lacks the experience to correctly design and operate school, whereas I myself lack both the experience and the resources to correctly design and operate a school, and am very certain that Mr. James did not hire anyone with the experience to correctly design and operate a school.
The difference here is that GMO crops are literally (as described above) the genie released from the bottle; once it's out in the wild, you're not getting it back, it's out there for good. So considering all the above, what makes you think that a profit-oriented company, armed with a device and method to allow them to modify the genes of pretty much anything, aren't going to rush something to market that may have unintended and disasterous long-term effects once it's out in Earth's biosphere? I personally used to worry about all the GMO crops that were being introduced but I don't waste the energy anymore because it's too late now, they're out there, and if in another 20 or 30 years we see some terrible unintended side-effect of the gene editing that causes a major disaster, then what are we to do? Meanwhile the EU is being smarter about it than our own legislators here in the U.S. have been (or less corrupted by corporate influences?)
Yet "[t]he court exempted conventional mutagenesis -- the unnatural use of chemicals or radiation to create mutations for plant breeding -- because it has 'a long safety record.'"
Are you ok with the genie being released so long as it's a random genie, and some unknown number of the genie's friends (because, let's face it, why would there be only one mutation after such a process) are released as well?
And if you're concerned about random genies, then you'll love the effects of viruses, UV light, background radiation, and just plain growing outside...
People are OK with one or both of those, but targeted gene editing with a known gene, that's where they want to draw the line. The most predictable and testable outcome of them all.
to take ownership of all physical property and intellectual output (I'm not calling it IP, that's a loaded term designed to legitimize bad patents and perpetual copyright).
I'll do you one better and not call "physical property" property. That's a loaded term designed to let you keep stuff that I want.
For you to be part of the "class action suit" you need to pay the law firm a non-refundable deposit of usually between 200-600 dollars. The kicker is the lawsuit never actually happens and the client is out even more money.
As much as I dislike shareholder and shareholder derivative suits, no, that is not how it works.
There is no form of class action where the class is "people who paid us." There is no class action where the damages recovered, if any, vary by "people who paid us." At worst, the attorneys have identified a handful (and I mean a baker's dozen or less) of "class representatives" (named plaintiffs) who will be awarded additional compensation in the low five figures, at the discretion/approval of the judge overseeing the case. They serve as examples of the different types of common circumstances present within the larger class, and are required to participate in the litigation.
Doesnâ(TM)t rebut the article about âoethe server,â canâ(TM)t be bothered to listen to the words Mueller actually used (hint: did not say Iraq had WMDs, and the highlighted supplement only indicated a capability to produce a WMD), constantly changing the topic of discussion to the servers - as if that was the only Russian hacking, and posting walls of text.
Sorry, youâ(TM)re so wrong that not even Faux News agrees with your analysis of the Puton âoeoffer.â Partisan my ass. Moron.
I'd ask you to keep up, but you aren't even in the race . ..
You're right. I declined to participate in your wild goose chase.
"'It's bunk through and through,' says [Jake] Williams, who's also an instructor at the SANS Institute and a former operator with the NSA's Tailored Access Operations unit, via Twitter."
The "something" in my statement was in response to another conversation with another poster who tried to claim there were 5 convictions related to collusion/hacking. Of course, that poster was wrong.
Hardly. As others have pointed out, guilty pleas result in convictions. Your lack of understanding of how the judicial system operates is your problem, not ours.
I say again, you let us know when you have evidence related to the collusion or election hacking we hear so much about. (Hint: an indictment is not evidence, it's an allegation)
That describes the evidence that Mueller has. Which is quite a bit more than "absolutely nothing." "Having evidence" and providing you with copies of the original documents are two quite different things.
Moving the goalposts once more... and still can't be consistent about it.
You say that like its supposed to mean something. It means nothing when the FBI has been a ratfucking outfit since its inception, and establishment Republicans (who tended to endorse Hillary [washingtonpost.com] if they weren't running themselves) hate Trump. And just as Flint still doesn't have clean water, Mueller still hasn't bothered to examine the DNC server, the alleged hacking of which he's now issuing indictments for. You simply cannot fit that square peg in a round hole.
Because it does, as opposed to the things said by your "can't go a day without lying in really obvious ways" Trumpocracy. Also Mueller has no connection to the DNC server -- dude left the FBI 3 years before that. Try to keep up.
Your attempt to substitute lazy hand waving and sarcasm for an actual response is noted.
It met the measure of your attacks against the indictment. No need to waste time fighting your handwaving and sarcasm with a carefully constructed response.
That's how quid pro quos work - all the while calling out Mueller's bluff and pointing out how hypocritical the US is in "meddling" with other countries.
You seem to keep forgetting that Trump rejected the quid pro quo. Shouldn't Trump be calling Mueller's bluff? Oh wait, he can't -- Michael McFaul had diplomatic immunity and is no longer a government employee so Trump can't do jack to accept the deal (nevermind his own party crucifying him for even considering it).
Now, if you want to go on kicking the football for the same people that lied you into the Iraq war, now with even less evidence (and by less I mean zero), go ahead - but try not to drag the rest of the world into nuclear war while you're at it, mmmkay?
Viewed your link, didn't see any evidence that Mueller lied me into the Iraq war. However, I am seeing evidence of Trump lying us into a 1930s-style trade war. Rah rah, you moron.
Former head of the FBI for 12 years, appointed by the Trump DOJ, endorsed by Republicans back when this whole process started.
I totally believe you...
The fact that the came out with the latest faux indictments immediately before the summit tells anyone with a couple of functioning neurons that this was done to maintain the Russiagate narrative. Nothing more, nothing less.
Preach brother! You've disproven the indictment by timing and irrelevant hyperbole alone! All who disagree with you have less than a couple of functioning neurons!
I totally believe that too...
And note that Putin immediately called Mueller's bluff by offering to hand over the indicted Russian officials if the FBI provides evidence to back up their claims, which everyone knows Mueller isn't going to do.
Link please. Because the tale is that Putin offered to allow Mueller to observe interviews conducted by Russian officials in Russiaif the Russians could question "U.S. Ambassador to Russia Michael McFaul and 10 other 'U.S. officials and intelligence agents.'" Trump refused.
I mean, you've only totally gotten that one wrong... so I totally believe that other stuff.
You let us know when you have something related to the collusion or election hacking we hear so much about.
Memory problems [nytimes.com]? Or did your attempts to forget Helsinki merely work too well?
Not that I expect people like you to be able to follow the conversation, but my statement was in reference to guilty pleas and convictions.
Anybody can charge 12 random Russians. You let me know when you have a guilty plea or conviction related to collusion or election hacking or anything even close.
Moving the goalposts I see... from "something" to "convictions." Too bad. I've let you know of the something.
Again, after 2 years banging on about this garbage you have absolutely nothing . ..
And not even moving them consistently. An extremely detailed indictment is hardly "absolutely nothing."
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Which would make them not patent trolls. They defended their patents against the most well-funded legal team in existence, and showed that the protocol used their invention. They most certainly did not claim to own the protocol.
You go do that. Good luck distributing an app through the Apple Store or Google Play that avoids the 'centralized service' issue (if you can list it, they can find you), preemptively blacklisting tens of thousands of police before your service craters from the tickets and impounded cars, and avoiding the obstruction of justice charges.
No app distribution channel (assuming you don't cave and deanonymize yourself), no drivers, and no cozy nights at home. You'll be #winning.
Yes, that's totally what it shows.
He's free to think it, he's just not free to use it for a limited time. Because the people who discovered the math determined that it could be usefully applied by a computer first, disclosed it first, and got their reward. Carmack came along later, disclosed it even later (you even link to his post to a private mailing list as evidence of his sharing it), and lost out. Just like those who came later in the Oklahoma land rush. Which is for some reason OK to you because that in contrast is "real property."
Well that's one social theory. Fortunately, I believe in others, and those are the ones that are ascendant.
And? What makes rivalrous matter the sine qua non of property? You can't hold on to physical property continuously either. I should be free to occupy or use it when you leave. Possession is 9/10ths and some such...
So, as long as I don't realize that I can stick around. Roger wilco.
Your own veterinarians appear to disagree with you on this point: "Nymph (larval) ticks can be a major problem on newborn fawns, and young grazing lambs prior to weaning causing anaemia with deaths from blood loss in severe cases."
Quick, call the Government of Western Australia and inform them how "heavy infestations can [not] cause severe anaemia, decreased growth rates and rarely, deaths in younger cattle," because they apparently failed to receive your Hobbit memos.
Ironically from someone who demands that others research things, you've provided no support in addition to being totally wrong.
You're taking the reciprocal of the required reserve and treating it as if that applies to all the money deposited in the bank.
If I have $100 and lend you $95 for 6 months, I've reserved 5% of the money and given you 19x the money I held in reserve. But I've still only lent out 95% of the money. I still have $5, and you still have $95. I'll very likely get that $95 back -- plus interest -- after 6 months, so even if it came from Bill's 1 year Certificate of Deposit, there was no need to keep his $100 locked in a safe deposit box. That's why I'm willing to pay Bill interest instead of charging him $5 to guard his $100 for the year.
Thanks for playing "you're bad a math."
You're really bad at this, aren't you? "Subject to the provisions of this title, patents shall have the attributes of personal property." Quod erat demonstrandum.
But feel free to explain how the law does not define property, whereupon I shall be freed to appropriate that vehicle that you use to get to work.
Uncopyrightable procedure, process, system, or method of operation.
Specifically, in this instance, something covered by merger. There are no expressive elements to the program. It is merely the simplest, most mechanical way of getting a 6502 CPU to produce that entirely non-expressive output.
Signed,
Actual IP attorney
And be identically regulated, because these regulations are not specific to Lyft and Uber.
Enforcement is quite possible. Summon driver through the app. Ticket driver. Enough tickets, impound vehicle. Heck, ticket the service that sent the request to the driver while you're at it. Hard to be anonymous publishing an app. Hard to run a service like this without an app.
Because that is what is happening. I remember just last week when I wrote an app so that my friend could ask me for a ride to the airport... Oh wait... they call or text me, specifically.
Ah yes, I see. You're a denizen of libertarian fantasyland. I'll be moving on now...
What? The concept that if you want the bank to pay you interest on deposits the bank has to do something productive with the money such as lend a significant proportion of it out in order to collect at least that amount of interest upon it? There's your research.
Non-fractional reserve banking is called a safe deposit box. You can't write negotiable instruments against it or use an ATM card to access it, and you'll pay a substantial monthly fee, but anything that you put into it is pretty much guaranteed to be there until you yourself remove it.
Fractional reserve banking also has very little to do with whether loans are made against residences vs investment properties, so no, researching it won't contradict the GPs information.
And?
God handed down a rule that says that if you pay taxes in Ireland on income that you earn in another country that there shall be no other taxes upon it?
South Korea has opted out of playing that game.
Wrong. US is +12B/yr in the balance of trade.
Sales are sales. Trade is not limited solely to things measured by the ton. Welcome, traveler from the 19th century, to the 21st.
Good old physics also shows that nothing in the universe is able to force a Slashdot reader to read and comprehend the comments that they are replying to.
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You've got that backwards. Abuse of dominance is a bit more insidious than price fixing and/or market sharing.
As if duration of infringement was the sole metric. What about the value of the affected market? Why is Google's market cap 11x Daimler's? Complete irrationality, or a much larger value for the search/information market?
1 billion Euro out of an 850 billion USD market cap or 1 billion Euro out of a 75 billion market cap, which is the worse fine?
Point disproved.
Fact free Trump worshipper part 2..
No, you've sent a message. Your imagination sucks, your knowledge of how Europe treats its own is non-existent, and nobody should pay any attention to you concerning this topic.
LeBron James lacks the experience to correctly design and operate school, whereas I myself lack both the experience and the resources to correctly design and operate a school, and am very certain that Mr. James did not hire anyone with the experience to correctly design and operate a school.
We'll get back to you after due consideration...
Yet "[t]he court exempted conventional mutagenesis -- the unnatural use of chemicals or radiation to create mutations for plant breeding -- because it has 'a long safety record.'"
Are you ok with the genie being released so long as it's a random genie, and some unknown number of the genie's friends (because, let's face it, why would there be only one mutation after such a process) are released as well?
And if you're concerned about random genies, then you'll love the effects of viruses, UV light, background radiation, and just plain growing outside...
People are OK with one or both of those, but targeted gene editing with a known gene, that's where they want to draw the line. The most predictable and testable outcome of them all.
I'll do you one better and not call "physical property" property. That's a loaded term designed to let you keep stuff that I want.
As much as I dislike shareholder and shareholder derivative suits, no, that is not how it works.
There is no form of class action where the class is "people who paid us." There is no class action where the damages recovered, if any, vary by "people who paid us." At worst, the attorneys have identified a handful (and I mean a baker's dozen or less) of "class representatives" (named plaintiffs) who will be awarded additional compensation in the low five figures, at the discretion/approval of the judge overseeing the case. They serve as examples of the different types of common circumstances present within the larger class, and are required to participate in the litigation.
Doesnâ(TM)t rebut the article about âoethe server,â canâ(TM)t be bothered to listen to the words Mueller actually used (hint: did not say Iraq had WMDs, and the highlighted supplement only indicated a capability to produce a WMD), constantly changing the topic of discussion to the servers - as if that was the only Russian hacking, and posting walls of text.
Sorry, youâ(TM)re so wrong that not even Faux News agrees with your analysis of the Puton âoeoffer.â Partisan my ass. Moron.
You're right. I declined to participate in your wild goose chase.
"'It's bunk through and through,' says [Jake] Williams, who's also an instructor at the SANS Institute and a former operator with the NSA's Tailored Access Operations unit, via Twitter."
Hardly. As others have pointed out, guilty pleas result in convictions. Your lack of understanding of how the judicial system operates is your problem, not ours.
That describes the evidence that Mueller has. Which is quite a bit more than "absolutely nothing."
"Having evidence" and providing you with copies of the original documents are two quite different things.
Moving the goalposts once more... and still can't be consistent about it.
Because it does, as opposed to the things said by your "can't go a day without lying in really obvious ways" Trumpocracy. Also Mueller has no connection to the DNC server -- dude left the FBI 3 years before that. Try to keep up.
It met the measure of your attacks against the indictment. No need to waste time fighting your handwaving and sarcasm with a carefully constructed response.
You seem to keep forgetting that Trump rejected the quid pro quo. Shouldn't Trump be calling Mueller's bluff? Oh wait, he can't -- Michael McFaul had diplomatic immunity and is no longer a government employee so Trump can't do jack to accept the deal (nevermind his own party crucifying him for even considering it).
Viewed your link, didn't see any evidence that Mueller lied me into the Iraq war. However, I am seeing evidence of Trump lying us into a 1930s-style trade war. Rah rah, you moron.
Former head of the FBI for 12 years, appointed by the Trump DOJ, endorsed by Republicans back when this whole process started.
I totally believe you...
Preach brother! You've disproven the indictment by timing and irrelevant hyperbole alone! All who disagree with you have less than a couple of functioning neurons!
I totally believe that too...
Link please. Because the tale is that Putin offered to allow Mueller to observe interviews conducted by Russian officials in Russia if the Russians could question "U.S. Ambassador to Russia Michael McFaul and 10 other 'U.S. officials and intelligence agents.'" Trump refused.
I mean, you've only totally gotten that one wrong... so I totally believe that other stuff.
Moving the goalposts I see... from "something" to "convictions." Too bad. I've let you know of the something.
And not even moving them consistently. An extremely detailed indictment is hardly "absolutely nothing."