Apple products would clearly not be bought by any rational mind. They are emotional purchases. Dreams. Bloomy dreams with a bad reality. Schizotypic delusions. In other words: Religion/cult.
The problem with the unification of time systems is that 4am may be 4am everywhere, but now you'd need to know if that was the middle of the day in New York or the middle of the night. You still need to know all the time differences to have any meaningful interaction with other people, so the problem is no simpler. If you go on holiday you still need to learn to get up at 4pm instead of 6am, and it won't be as simple as just changing your watch and trying to adjust to the normal localised times you'd do those things.
So it's a whole load of pain changing the system for no gain, or even a step backwards. Woo.
Yeah, only an internet nerd wouldn't see the need to know when the sun would be up in the sky.
This isnt 'major geek' pedantry, it's 'slashdot-marks-it-insightful' nitpickery. What's amazing is people actually consider this a low signal-to-noise ratio.
It used to happen all the timw with Windows 98. Around that time that OS was popular they started putting more memory in the hard drive caches. This, combined with Windows 98's over-zealous desire to shut down super fast, meant the power was going off to the HD before it had finished dumping the data in its cache to disk. Often times it was the file the registry resides in that was still open when the power was cut off. The practical implication of this was people would shut down their machine, go to boot it up again, and find that Windows was irreparbly borked.
This really isn't a rebuttal to your post, rather I think it helps explain some of the hostility towards the registry.
Not any more - they got rid of that plan. As soon as you get a new phone or do anything else to change your account, you'll lose your *unlimited* and won't be able to get it back.
That may be a possibility but I haven't seen it play out with any carriers yet. AT&T, for example, is still letting me keep my unlimited plan. The moment that's gone I'm gone, I think they know that.
The FF team wanted to dethrone IE. They made a better product as a result. Is that what the Gimp community is aiming for as well or are they more in the mind-set of satisfying their own needs with it?
Seriously, it's a straight-forward question, not a set-up for an arguement.
Just think about the statement I responded to, then think about how Mac fans were thought of back in the DOS days. If you are noisy to your friends about HTC products you'll be talked about behind your back.
They don't have aspirations of becoming the standard image editing app?
I'm not asking to argue, I've just never followed GIMP enough to know if they were just trying to make an image manipulation app or if they want it to be the app everybody uses.
And the photoshop people still don't switch, because it doesn't have their favourite plugin.
Why does it have to be about switching?
As an experienced Photoshop user let me give you a little tip: Instead of trying get Photoshop users to switch, why not tantalize them with how it can be an additional tool in their toolbox?
Let's say, for example, that GIMP has an extra awesome macro-recording/playback capability that makes Photoshop look like a toy in comparison. (I don't know if this is the case or not so please forgive my ignorance.) If you were to say to me: "You can record a macro in GIMP, then apply this sophisticated set of rules to it that PS doesn't have, and easily set it up to run on all the files in a folder", then I'd go and try it out!
Take out the switching talk and you'll gain a lot more interest. Otherwise you're fighting this huge uphill battle where you have to take into account way too many things that are of importance. Then you'll sit there thinking Photoshop users are mindless fans that lack your vision when in reality you just haven't addressed their needs.
Because some quasi-develepor exec probably sold them on the idea that their decades-old intellectual property could become sellable again on the mobile/embedded platform market but first they need to kill off the community that formed around these games?
Maybe I'm just talking out of my rear here but it may be an 'enforce the trademark' issue.
Were you really that surprised that it will just move sites to use other ways to make money with advertisements, or move them to pay model?
I think it'd be more surprising if they ever felt they were getting enough money from ads and were never interested in trying to find more ways to earn revenue.
I know what you mean. I had a job once where they placed my desk right in the hallway. All day I could hear virtually every conversation that was going on, not to mention the constant bombardment of phantom footsteps walking by. To top it off, I sat next to the laser printer, so everybody'd come up and say hi to me. Eventually I got a CD player and a pair of headphones. Finally I could work in peace! My boss dinged me for looking like I wasn't paying attention.
In his heart I think he was trying to help me improve my appearance with my colleagues, but there were times I wondered how he could have been so disconnected from reality.
I can think of a number of times I've gotten stuck on a scripting problem, distracted myself on the web for a couple of minutes, then come back and have had the solution become clear to me. I don't really know why this happens but I suspect it's because I'm willing to dump where I'm at and start over from the beginning to look for the problem. Im not sure how much sense that makes so I'll put it another way: I needed a mental reboot.
I don't personally believe productivity takes any real hit from web broswing. Even if it did, I think the info that is gathered from it can make up or even exceed that gap. I had a boss ding me once for talking to someone on ICQ. A month or two later he needed me to find some info. I knew the dude from ICQ had experience with that particular product and he was kind enough to fill me in. My boss was reasonable enough to take back the comment he made.
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Apple products would clearly not be bought by any rational mind. They are emotional purchases. Dreams. Bloomy dreams with a bad reality. Schizotypic delusions. In other words: Religion/cult.
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What do you think is likely to happen in the next six to twelve months?
An endless run of stories about Steve's health so Slashdot can serve ads.
The problem with the unification of time systems is that 4am may be 4am everywhere, but now you'd need to know if that was the middle of the day in New York or the middle of the night. You still need to know all the time differences to have any meaningful interaction with other people, so the problem is no simpler. If you go on holiday you still need to learn to get up at 4pm instead of 6am, and it won't be as simple as just changing your watch and trying to adjust to the normal localised times you'd do those things.
So it's a whole load of pain changing the system for no gain, or even a step backwards. Woo.
Yeah, only an internet nerd wouldn't see the need to know when the sun would be up in the sky.
Chalk it up to a bigger market, you mean.
Speaking as someone who is stuck in a hotel with lousy, intermittent wifi, you won't regret that decision.
(yes i know about offline mode.)
This isnt 'major geek' pedantry, it's 'slashdot-marks-it-insightful' nitpickery. What's amazing is people actually consider this a low signal-to-noise ratio.
Heh who knew we'd go from discussions about a week's worth of underwear to bunching our panties over smartphone OS's!
And to those who read the parent post and made a fart noise: We now have Android cellphones and tablets. Thanks Steve!
It used to happen all the timw with Windows 98. Around that time that OS was popular they started putting more memory in the hard drive caches. This, combined with Windows 98's over-zealous desire to shut down super fast, meant the power was going off to the HD before it had finished dumping the data in its cache to disk. Often times it was the file the registry resides in that was still open when the power was cut off. The practical implication of this was people would shut down their machine, go to boot it up again, and find that Windows was irreparbly borked.
This really isn't a rebuttal to your post, rather I think it helps explain some of the hostility towards the registry.
Not any more - they got rid of that plan. As soon as you get a new phone or do anything else to change your account, you'll lose your *unlimited* and won't be able to get it back.
That may be a possibility but I haven't seen it play out with any carriers yet. AT&T, for example, is still letting me keep my unlimited plan. The moment that's gone I'm gone, I think they know that.
You Mama's so fat, when she walks across the living room she makes the radio skip!!
How did this make Slashdot already? Nothing makes this site for weeks.
The Earthquake happened before Apple did anything Slashdot could spin today.
The FF team wanted to dethrone IE. They made a better product as a result. Is that what the Gimp community is aiming for as well or are they more in the mind-set of satisfying their own needs with it?
Seriously, it's a straight-forward question, not a set-up for an arguement.
Just think about the statement I responded to, then think about how Mac fans were thought of back in the DOS days. If you are noisy to your friends about HTC products you'll be talked about behind your back.
They don't have aspirations of becoming the standard image editing app?
I'm not asking to argue, I've just never followed GIMP enough to know if they were just trying to make an image manipulation app or if they want it to be the app everybody uses.
Could I trouble you to elaborate more on what you mean by 'fight the layers system'?
Just curious.
What is GIMP's goal?
And the photoshop people still don't switch, because it doesn't have their favourite plugin.
Why does it have to be about switching?
As an experienced Photoshop user let me give you a little tip: Instead of trying get Photoshop users to switch, why not tantalize them with how it can be an additional tool in their toolbox?
Let's say, for example, that GIMP has an extra awesome macro-recording/playback capability that makes Photoshop look like a toy in comparison. (I don't know if this is the case or not so please forgive my ignorance.) If you were to say to me: "You can record a macro in GIMP, then apply this sophisticated set of rules to it that PS doesn't have, and easily set it up to run on all the files in a folder", then I'd go and try it out!
Take out the switching talk and you'll gain a lot more interest. Otherwise you're fighting this huge uphill battle where you have to take into account way too many things that are of importance. Then you'll sit there thinking Photoshop users are mindless fans that lack your vision when in reality you just haven't addressed their needs.
I guess companies can register a trademark, *then* go after persons that have used the name?
After all Atari didn't exist for a lot of years.
The whole reason trademarks exist is to prevent consumer confusion.
Because some quasi-develepor exec probably sold them on the idea that their decades-old intellectual property could become sellable again on the mobile/embedded platform market but first they need to kill off the community that formed around these games?
Maybe I'm just talking out of my rear here but it may be an 'enforce the trademark' issue.
Is the viability of the platform really a marketshare issue or is it really about installed base?
Were you really that surprised that it will just move sites to use other ways to make money with advertisements, or move them to pay model?
I think it'd be more surprising if they ever felt they were getting enough money from ads and were never interested in trying to find more ways to earn revenue.
AC is right! Here's the corrected statement:
So Anonymous == Founding Fathers?
I know what you mean. I had a job once where they placed my desk right in the hallway. All day I could hear virtually every conversation that was going on, not to mention the constant bombardment of phantom footsteps walking by. To top it off, I sat next to the laser printer, so everybody'd come up and say hi to me. Eventually I got a CD player and a pair of headphones. Finally I could work in peace! My boss dinged me for looking like I wasn't paying attention.
In his heart I think he was trying to help me improve my appearance with my colleagues, but there were times I wondered how he could have been so disconnected from reality.
I can think of a number of times I've gotten stuck on a scripting problem, distracted myself on the web for a couple of minutes, then come back and have had the solution become clear to me. I don't really know why this happens but I suspect it's because I'm willing to dump where I'm at and start over from the beginning to look for the problem. Im not sure how much sense that makes so I'll put it another way: I needed a mental reboot.
I don't personally believe productivity takes any real hit from web broswing. Even if it did, I think the info that is gathered from it can make up or even exceed that gap. I had a boss ding me once for talking to someone on ICQ. A month or two later he needed me to find some info. I knew the dude from ICQ had experience with that particular product and he was kind enough to fill me in. My boss was reasonable enough to take back the comment he made.