Classic, because guess what? Most Americans aren't terrorists conspiring against the USA.
Exactly. So there's no rational reason to want to be able to tap anyone at any time. They're overstepping their bounds for nothing so noble as "protecting the people" and more for maintaining and increasing their grip. But you don't give a shit, you loooooove Big Brother, don't you.
How about some of the numbers off those various credit cards and licenses? I'm particularly interested in the 9 and 16 digit variety. That alarm code may be handy too. Nothing to hide, right? What, you don't trust me? Then why trust a government composed entirely of people who are arguably less intelligent and less ethical than I?
Wow, dude, that's a good idea, though I'd probably up it to 20 years, otherwise everything would just stop (hmmm...). Would need congressional term limits too, otherwise it's just the same bastards. Too bad it won't happen
Here's a good example of bullshit in the college textbook racket. This book is the required text for the first year physics sequence at many schools. When I got it, 10 years ago, it was in its 7th edition and cost about $100. The only difference I ever found comparing it to earlier editions was they rearranged some shit, it was all the exact same material. Which stands to reason, it's mechanics, you know, the shit Isaac Newton invented, the branch of science that's been largely unchanged for 300 years. How are these profiteering bastards allowed to continue to make money off of works that (should) have been public domain for centuries? Now this exact same book is $200? Total bullshit. My opinion is that everyone in the world should be issued this book at birth. It's like they're trying to make the world a dumber place by setting the cost of a basic (yes mechanics is basic, everyone should know it, also math and history) education so high only the affluent can get one. Then we're just paving the way for a new caste system and a return to the dark ages.
I'm afraid because in our society, intellectual property is the only thing of true value.
But it's value is entirely fictional, it's only what we ascribe to it. An idea has NO intrinsic worth, it's only what you do with that idea that makes it valuable or worthless.
Our copyright/TM/patent system is just as broken as the RIAA business model. I personally feel ideas belong in the cloud, available to anyone with the means to exploit it. The originators deserve credit, possibly even compensation, but trying to control an idea once it's been hatched is counterproductive and stifling to further innovation. It's regressionist tactics.
People don't do things for the good of mankind anymore, there's no money in it.
As I stated in another thread on another site yesterday, siting references to fake online dictionaries does not constitute proof that this is, in fact, a word.
seriously, what the fuck does this have to do with anything? isn't ANYONE here slightly concerned we're taking the first steps to forming our very own thought police??? this entire bill reeks of something out of a Philip K. Dick story, all we need is some guy running
We kill flies and mosquitoes because they're pests. We kill cows and chickens because we're hungry. We kill pheasants and quails because it's fun, and we're hungry. We kill people because they're pests, and it's fun.
Cool. I'll be over tonight to go through all your shit looking for anything I can sell to tabloids. They're not too picky. In the meantime, since you have nothing to hide, why don't you have all the walls of your house converted to transparent glass bricks, so we can set up multiple cameras to a live web feed and everyone can watch you 24/7. In fact, just stop wearing clothes too, because you have nothing to hide, right? You stupid shit. Privacy has to do with a lot more than having something to hide. Get a fucking clue.
you know, these young Earth jokes stopped being funny about a hundred years ago. you're not clever, you're not witty, and if you're not actually attempting to be, you're just sad and pathetic
Oh how I wish we had the insanity in politics that the UK does. I find it amazing that Parliament ever does ANYTHING. But no, our political climate has always been hostile to third-parties. Back in the 90s I voted Libertarian, they pissed me off less than most. But ever since 01 and the Great Reactionary Blitzkrieg, my personal response has been to push back harder. I found my politics drifting further left as everything else went right. I still don't like the Dems, but I hate the Reps, so my voting has reflected that hate. I'd be content to treat our federal government like the cancer it is, with poison and radiation. Maybe one day I'll stop giving a shit and vote for someone I actually like rather than dislike less. That'd be nice.
As a side note, hippies aren't people and shouldn't be allowed to vote anyway.
Troll? Seriously? No you dumbass mod, troll would be saying that Republicans are baby-eating, anti-semitic, gay-dragging, fuzzy animal-clubbing, hate-powered engines of evil swarming across the world like locusts leaving nothing but death and devastation in their wake. I have not yet begun to troll.
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Classic, because guess what? Most Americans aren't terrorists conspiring against the USA.
Exactly. So there's no rational reason to want to be able to tap anyone at any time. They're overstepping their bounds for nothing so noble as "protecting the people" and more for maintaining and increasing their grip. But you don't give a shit, you loooooove Big Brother, don't you.
How about some of the numbers off those various credit cards and licenses? I'm particularly interested in the 9 and 16 digit variety. That alarm code may be handy too. Nothing to hide, right? What, you don't trust me? Then why trust a government composed entirely of people who are arguably less intelligent and less ethical than I?
This is why the Matrix crashed so many times...
Wow, dude, that's a good idea, though I'd probably up it to 20 years, otherwise everything would just stop (hmmm...). Would need congressional term limits too, otherwise it's just the same bastards. Too bad it won't happen
Ah, the "nothing to hide" argument, classic. Let's see the contents of your wallet.
Here's a good example of bullshit in the college textbook racket. This book is the required text for the first year physics sequence at many schools. When I got it, 10 years ago, it was in its 7th edition and cost about $100. The only difference I ever found comparing it to earlier editions was they rearranged some shit, it was all the exact same material. Which stands to reason, it's mechanics, you know, the shit Isaac Newton invented, the branch of science that's been largely unchanged for 300 years. How are these profiteering bastards allowed to continue to make money off of works that (should) have been public domain for centuries? Now this exact same book is $200? Total bullshit. My opinion is that everyone in the world should be issued this book at birth. It's like they're trying to make the world a dumber place by setting the cost of a basic (yes mechanics is basic, everyone should know it, also math and history) education so high only the affluent can get one. Then we're just paving the way for a new caste system and a return to the dark ages.
I'm afraid because in our society, intellectual property is the only thing of true value.
But it's value is entirely fictional, it's only what we ascribe to it. An idea has NO intrinsic worth, it's only what you do with that idea that makes it valuable or worthless.
Our copyright/TM/patent system is just as broken as the RIAA business model. I personally feel ideas belong in the cloud, available to anyone with the means to exploit it. The originators deserve credit, possibly even compensation, but trying to control an idea once it's been hatched is counterproductive and stifling to further innovation. It's regressionist tactics.
People don't do things for the good of mankind anymore, there's no money in it.
The RIAA Schutzstaffle, that's all we need
When they can charge us for thinking about music
Thank you and good night.
They do not market towards the tech savvy.
you got that right
it just won't be a Mac.
for which you will be infnitely better off
that's why I read these boards, the intelligent and witty discourse.....
ever wonder why the muslim afterlife is full of virgins? must be the ug-o's
I'm going to patent the portable lap
Read more.
seriously, what the fuck does this have to do with anything? isn't ANYONE here slightly concerned we're taking the first steps to forming our very own thought police??? this entire bill reeks of something out of a Philip K. Dick story, all we need is some guy running
now that's funny
With apologies to George Carlin
Salvor Hardin...excellent. Glad to see some people still read.
Cool. I'll be over tonight to go through all your shit looking for anything I can sell to tabloids. They're not too picky. In the meantime, since you have nothing to hide, why don't you have all the walls of your house converted to transparent glass bricks, so we can set up multiple cameras to a live web feed and everyone can watch you 24/7. In fact, just stop wearing clothes too, because you have nothing to hide, right? You stupid shit. Privacy has to do with a lot more than having something to hide. Get a fucking clue.
This is why we need an option to mod posts "stupid"
you know, these young Earth jokes stopped being funny about a hundred years ago. you're not clever, you're not witty, and if you're not actually attempting to be, you're just sad and pathetic
As a side note, hippies aren't people and shouldn't be allowed to vote anyway.
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Troll? Seriously? No you dumbass mod, troll would be saying that Republicans are baby-eating, anti-semitic, gay-dragging, fuzzy animal-clubbing, hate-powered engines of evil swarming across the world like locusts leaving nothing but death and devastation in their wake. I have not yet begun to troll.
Yeah, it's amusing, sad, and frightening to think that Robertson and Fallwell are the ones with enough broad-based appeal to be used as figureheads.