Time is important to me, too. Rather than spend my time talking to some salesperson, I prefer the whitelist approach. I don't get that many unsolicited calls anyways. You could just as well be fooling yourself that your antics are effective.
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I don't deny his rights to write it, nor my rights to not read it. That doesn't mean it is beyond criticism.
It's just a fact that just because something was paid for with public money doesn't make you entitled to it for free.
It's an exception to a principle for security reasons. Government is paid for by the public for the benefit of the public, so maximum benefit to the public is the overriding concern. That's why the government doesn't assert copyright on documents.
Your argument amounts to that you're a petulant little child that is too cheap to pay for an article and too lazy to goto a library.
Your argument amounts to a spoiled child sucking on the teat of taxpayer money who doesn't want to share freely.
I suggest you do what that other petulant little child did and kill yourself.
You first. I really thought Aaron Schwartz went too far in his zeal to release documents, but the more I talk to douchebags like you the more I see him as a hero.
Guess what? You have no say in where research dollars go.
As an individual, very little, but Congress reacts all the time to public perception when assigning research dollars.
All of my research is accessible by the public. There is nothing stopping you from going to a library or buying the articles.
Keep on not getting. It was already paid for, by the public, you asshole. Placing restrictions on how the public can access it is not to the benefit of the public, and it's about time steps are being taken to stop this bullshit.
No it's not. The more time I waste as scientist catering to people like you the less science I can perform.
The less public money goes to idiots like you then the better. Pay for your own damn research if you want to restrict access to the public.
The White House is paid for with public money. Does that mean I should be able to crash on Obamas couch?
You truly are an idiot. You'd think by now you'd understand the difference between copying information and physical property. The government doesn't assert copyright on information they produce exactly because the public paid for it.
The real question is why you think paying for something means it's locked up?
Because I have to pay to unlock it. Again, it was paid for with public research money, so the best value for the public is to have free access to it.
And that convince comes at a cost. It's idiotic. What if I don't own a computer or have internet access? That doesn't mean any research is locked up with no way to access it or that the government should issue me a computer or internet access.
Speaking of idiotic, you take the cake with this argument. The Internet is a sunk cost, and the vast majority of people have access to it. No, what is being done here are obstructions to accessing what are trivially copied bytes that could be hosted anywhere.
Exactly. Reminds me of a Simpsons episode where they went to a race, and every time there was almost an accident the crowd would get all excited... and then disappointed as the driver recovered. People are kidding themselves if they don't recognize the general desire of people to see violence at sporting events.
And why then can't you just go to your local university library to get access? I mean really, it's not that hard.
Compared with clicking on a pdf from the comfort of your own home or office, the convenience and speed factor is big. The real question is why you think publicly funded research should be locked up behind a paywall in the first place.
Re:how does it compare to NetBSD as a teaching too
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w/
Are you really trying to save two characters with this garbage?
Looking under "Drivers, FS" it would seem that the Minix developers are still focusing on keeping it compatible with qemu and virtualbox, ie, they don't expect anybody to run it on real hardware and use it for real jobs.
How does support for virtual hardware mean they don't expect people to run it under real hardware too? I don't follow your logic. Not only that, your conclusion is directly contradicted by the Minix website:
"Research Projects
MINIX 3 won a grant from the European Research Council for 2.5 million [euros] to further research in highly reliable operating systems. Due to its modular nature and fault tolerance, it is easy to use it as a basis for operating systems research or for a product."
"It was only with the third version, MINIX 3, and the third edition of the book, published in 2006, that the emphasis changed from teaching to a serious research and production system, especially for embedded systems. A few of the many differences between MINIX 2 and MINIX 3 are given here.
Going forward, we are making a serious effort to turn MINIX 3 into an industrial-grade system with a focus on the embedded market, especially for those applications that need high reliability and availability."
And take it from somebody living in Shanghai at the moment. A woman was run over by a taxi driver because nobody respects the traffic lights for people on foot. Do you think the cars stopped when they saw her motionless body on the street? They just started to drive around it. So we have extreme different perceptions of the value of human life.
I saw the same kind of story in the US news at some point in the past year. The greater the concentration of people, the less the average person cares about another average person. Just another face/body in the crowd.
For the moment, let's put aside the argument of whether or not drone strikes create terrorists overall. They might, but I'm betting that we can build missiles faster than they can recruit people.
You know, if you say you want to put an argument aside, then don't offer a counter-argument, especially a stupid one like that. Building missiles is the easy part. Knowing where to land them is the hard one.
Yet that's exactly what you are. More like you'd piss your pants if somebody pulled a gun on you. Either that or you'd deserve the Darwin Award when you cursed at the guy with the gun and kept walking toward him.
You can even mix, but you still have to be consistent, so if you use tab space space, all later siblings and child lines must start with tab space space.
Speaking from experience on development teams, this still leads to problems when you have to look at the code and your editor treats the tabs differently. Allowing mixing of tabs and spaces is a really horrible idea.
Given the recent and persistent recession, and especially given California's budget woes, using that single example isn't a good barometer of why tuition at schools has risen so fast for so long.
Except if he hadn't pushed healthcare or gays in the military, then they wouldn't have gotten done, period. There's a lot I wish Obama would have done differently, but to deny him any accomplishments is bullshit.
Wake the !@#$ up.
If you want to swear, just fucking swear. Hiding behind shit like that is lame.
If we fully funded universities, I'd agree, but in general taxpayers are stingy and don't, so universities need to find other sources of revenue.
In the United States? Besides the grant money, directly paying for the research that turns into patents, there's tons of money being funneled into universities through government loans and grants to students, which have caused college tuition rates to outpace inflation for several decades now.
That's kind of hypothetical, because I've never seen Debian break in a production environment, ever.
So I guess all those release critical bugs in stable were reported for hypothetical reasons? Get real, shit breaks.
Time is money to these people
Time is important to me, too. Rather than spend my time talking to some salesperson, I prefer the whitelist approach. I don't get that many unsolicited calls anyways. You could just as well be fooling yourself that your antics are effective.
I don't deny his rights to write it, nor my rights to not read it. That doesn't mean it is beyond criticism.
It's just a fact that just because something was paid for with public money doesn't make you entitled to it for free.
It's an exception to a principle for security reasons. Government is paid for by the public for the benefit of the public, so maximum benefit to the public is the overriding concern. That's why the government doesn't assert copyright on documents.
Your argument amounts to that you're a petulant little child that is too cheap to pay for an article and too lazy to goto a library.
Your argument amounts to a spoiled child sucking on the teat of taxpayer money who doesn't want to share freely.
I suggest you do what that other petulant little child did and kill yourself.
You first. I really thought Aaron Schwartz went too far in his zeal to release documents, but the more I talk to douchebags like you the more I see him as a hero.
Wow, that's your trump card? Some research is classified? Truly a dizzying intellect I'm dealing with here.
Guess what? You have no say in where research dollars go.
As an individual, very little, but Congress reacts all the time to public perception when assigning research dollars.
All of my research is accessible by the public. There is nothing stopping you from going to a library or buying the articles.
Keep on not getting. It was already paid for, by the public, you asshole. Placing restrictions on how the public can access it is not to the benefit of the public, and it's about time steps are being taken to stop this bullshit.
No it's not. The more time I waste as scientist catering to people like you the less science I can perform.
The less public money goes to idiots like you then the better. Pay for your own damn research if you want to restrict access to the public.
The White House is paid for with public money. Does that mean I should be able to crash on Obamas couch?
You truly are an idiot. You'd think by now you'd understand the difference between copying information and physical property. The government doesn't assert copyright on information they produce exactly because the public paid for it.
The real question is why you think paying for something means it's locked up?
Because I have to pay to unlock it. Again, it was paid for with public research money, so the best value for the public is to have free access to it.
And that convince comes at a cost. It's idiotic. What if I don't own a computer or have internet access? That doesn't mean any research is locked up with no way to access it or that the government should issue me a computer or internet access.
Speaking of idiotic, you take the cake with this argument. The Internet is a sunk cost, and the vast majority of people have access to it. No, what is being done here are obstructions to accessing what are trivially copied bytes that could be hosted anywhere.
Exactly. Reminds me of a Simpsons episode where they went to a race, and every time there was almost an accident the crowd would get all excited... and then disappointed as the driver recovered. People are kidding themselves if they don't recognize the general desire of people to see violence at sporting events.
And why then can't you just go to your local university library to get access? I mean really, it's not that hard.
Compared with clicking on a pdf from the comfort of your own home or office, the convenience and speed factor is big. The real question is why you think publicly funded research should be locked up behind a paywall in the first place.
w/
Are you really trying to save two characters with this garbage?
Looking under "Drivers, FS" it would seem that the Minix developers are still focusing on keeping it compatible with qemu and virtualbox, ie, they don't expect anybody to run it on real hardware and use it for real jobs.
How does support for virtual hardware mean they don't expect people to run it under real hardware too? I don't follow your logic. Not only that, your conclusion is directly contradicted by the Minix website:
"Research Projects
MINIX 3 won a grant from the European Research Council for 2.5 million [euros] to further research in highly reliable operating systems. Due to its modular nature and fault tolerance, it is easy to use it as a basis for operating systems research or for a product."
and more:
"It was only with the third version, MINIX 3, and the third edition of the book, published in 2006, that the emphasis changed from teaching to a serious research and production system, especially for embedded systems. A few of the many differences between MINIX 2 and MINIX 3 are given here.
Going forward, we are making a serious effort to turn MINIX 3 into an industrial-grade system with a focus on the embedded market, especially for those applications that need high reliability and availability."
And take it from somebody living in Shanghai at the moment. A woman was run over by a taxi driver because nobody respects the traffic lights for people on foot. Do you think the cars stopped when they saw her motionless body on the street? They just started to drive around it. So we have extreme different perceptions of the value of human life.
I saw the same kind of story in the US news at some point in the past year. The greater the concentration of people, the less the average person cares about another average person. Just another face/body in the crowd.
For the moment, let's put aside the argument of whether or not drone strikes create terrorists overall. They might, but I'm betting that we can build missiles faster than they can recruit people.
You know, if you say you want to put an argument aside, then don't offer a counter-argument, especially a stupid one like that. Building missiles is the easy part. Knowing where to land them is the hard one.
Not to be an Internet Tough Guy,
Yet that's exactly what you are. More like you'd piss your pants if somebody pulled a gun on you. Either that or you'd deserve the Darwin Award when you cursed at the guy with the gun and kept walking toward him.
Oh look, an Internet tough guy.
They are all at the same time so advanced to have personal space travel, and yet so primitive that its the wild west.
The whole Western aspect is why I completely dismissed the show at a glance. Maybe it was a good show, but the whole premise just seemed goofy.
You can even mix, but you still have to be consistent, so if you use tab space space, all later siblings and child lines must start with tab space space.
Speaking from experience on development teams, this still leads to problems when you have to look at the code and your editor treats the tabs differently. Allowing mixing of tabs and spaces is a really horrible idea.
You like to trail off a lot...
Take Steam's console for instance, there's a gap, and they're going to fill it.
What gap are they going to fill? If anything, the consoles are going more to the Steam model.
here's still quite a few metaphorical diamonds in the rough.
The expression means unpolished, not that there are gems amid trash.
You seriously come off as a whiner looking for an excuse. Wah wah, stuff costs money and the world isn't perfect.
Given the recent and persistent recession, and especially given California's budget woes, using that single example isn't a good barometer of why tuition at schools has risen so fast for so long.
Talk a good game; period.
Except if he hadn't pushed healthcare or gays in the military, then they wouldn't have gotten done, period. There's a lot I wish Obama would have done differently, but to deny him any accomplishments is bullshit.
Wake the !@#$ up.
If you want to swear, just fucking swear. Hiding behind shit like that is lame.
If we fully funded universities, I'd agree, but in general taxpayers are stingy and don't, so universities need to find other sources of revenue.
In the United States? Besides the grant money, directly paying for the research that turns into patents, there's tons of money being funneled into universities through government loans and grants to students, which have caused college tuition rates to outpace inflation for several decades now.