Yes, but those two companies likely had similar development cultures. For example neither probably advocated moving so fast and testing so little that buggy ("broken") software was produced yet *tolerated*.
Oh, I worked at Kodak in the late '80s in backoffice stuff.
That code was SO old and ravaged by the hordes of Mongol raiders of age that had been thru it, there were constant bugs to fix.
I bet those Mobil employees had no trouble at Kodak.
I don't bother because my Gmail account is my throw-away account. It's the email I give out if I absolutely HAVE to, to sign up for some web site or something.
I also know I have a fairly ("asdfasdf") password on it because I DON'T CARE.
Things I do care about are under a different email, with strong passwords and TFA .
Mark Pocan also covers the city of Madison which is hardly rural. I'm glad that he is my representative and is backing legislation like this. It's sorely needed.
I had LASIK done 15 years ago and it cost me $5000. I've now reached the point (48) where I am presbyopic and a touch FAR sighted, so I am back to wearing glasses with progressive lenses all the time.
It was the best thing I'd ever done for myself for the time I didn't wear glasses.
However now glasses are so much more expensive that it was worth it from a cost perspective. My lenses alone are running $350.
The upside is that eyeglasses style has also improved dramatically in 15 years. I actually don't mind how I look now with these glasses.
When you say, "recruiter," what do you mean? I get hit up constantly by places like Robert Half or TEKSystems, for the same few (local) jobs at places I don't want to work, for far less compensation than I am making now.
I have told them I would consider something different, but it would have to be a move up, explain what "up" is, and then get fed crappy compensation values (ie. contract positions that have no/poor health insurance, no/poor PTO, no 401K).
If a "real" recruiter were to contact me, I'd love to hear.
Personally, if my employer feels I need access to email or to be reached 24/7, it is their responsibility to provide the means for that. They do not have the right to takeover my personal property or data just because I work there. Put differently, if there is a business reason for them needing me to receive emails/texts/calls outside of normal working hours, then they should provide a business solution. If I want to do it for my own convenience on my own device, well, then I would have to weigh the convenience against all the privacy issues involved.
This.
I just tried to argue this same point where I work; I work in an IT group that has a rotating 24x7 on call. We had employer-issued Blackberries, which both received SMS messages and could connect to email.
Since we had had them for a while, the SMS alerts over time had evolved to "X has failed. Check your email for details."
Then the company forced us to turn in our Blackberries and went to a BYOD. I tried, unsuccessfully, to argue your point. I get spotty coverage on my personal phone, and none in the building, so that would rule out my personal device. Plus I refuse to allow the company control of my device, stipend or no.
The alternative was to accept a "penny phone" (a Samsung Chronos 2). I was very clear with my boss and boss' boss what that could mean for response to pages. So far, nothing has come up, but I also am kind of heistant to stray far from home when I am on call.
But here's what I don't understand - If the Eve program placed a bid at $24.99 for Alice's share, and it was accepted, why isn't that just a done deal, sold?
Seems to me that if this was a real issue, right there is your fix. You get once chance at a bid.
But since there are billions to be made by the people in control of the markets, I'm sure it's NOT an "issue."
The problem is that it is one thing for a concerned citizen to write their congressman and vote; but it takes someone who is really one in a million to run for office -- and it usually falls to the rich ones, not the righteous ones.
There. Fixed it for you.
But on a more serious note, it takes a large sum of cash to run for office these days. To garner enough to run for office, one either needs to be independently wealthy, or spend all of one's time raising donations rather than campaigning.
Since, according TFA, they just moved offices from FL to San Francisco, and are renting 3000 square feet there.
That cannot be cheap. If you're a strapped non-profit, why on earth would you go to one of the most expensive places in the country to run your internet-based business?
3. Despite being a techie and part time programmer where accuracy and preparation are paramount, I NEVER obey a recipe. Cooking is always about tasting and making things up as you go along, I cannot stand the formality around eating - serve it up with a nice wine or two to friends and just get on with enjoying it.
Ugh. I, too, am a techie geek and I find when I deviate even the slightest from a recipe, I create something that you could use as an adhesive to hold the tiles on the Space Shuttle.
That way, maybe the credit card companies will stop wasting paper and resources to flood our mailboxes with unnecessary credit card applications and start thinking about how to improve the security of setting up a credit card.
No, all it would mean is that interest rates would go up, "convenience fees" would pop up everywhere and get ever-bigger....
Credit card companies would sieze every opportunity to pass on these costs to the consumer.
If a car is 20 years old, you can figure it out. Otherwise, cars, well, engines, are wrapped in plastic shields to hide the sheer number of electronic components. Heck throttles aren't even mechanical devices anymore.
I rebuilt my '81 VW Rabbit engine from the block up and can hold that whole system in my head at once.
I look under the hood at my '06 Golf and run. Screaming.
ex. in an interview, we asked someone to write code to find out of a number is prime. he ran through and basically wrote
Oh, now this really irks me, because I've been in this same situation.
Here you take someone who is in a high-pressure situation - a job interview - and ask them to
hand-write code for an algorithm they may not have familiarity with. Their first try at it, and you say to not hire them because they missed some of the nuances of the algorithm (only check odd factors, don't need to check factors larger than sqrt(x))? So you'd hire some math geek who'd figure that out right away over someone who might take a couple of tries at refinement? Would that math geek be able to talk to a less-technically savvy business analyst to understand how to implement a sales forecasting practice?
I don't do that in real-world development- I have domain experts that I can query for information on whether I am implementing correctly, I can refine, and I DON'T HAVE TO HAND-WRITE MY CODE. Not to mention that I am not worrying about whether I will be able to pay for food tomorrow if I can't do this RIGHT NOW.
I'm admittedly triggered by this example because I had a couple of interviews for jobs where I was asked to do just that - hand write code to solve math problems. I can't hand write code anymore well. I can hand-write design (pseudocode or UML), and I had over a decade's experience - that should prove that I can write code. And frankly, that is what the computer is for - to catch my misplaced semicolons or missed brackets, or to do some quick prototyping/unit testing. But I can also have experience planning out projects that meet deadlines, or presenting project proposals to upper management for funding approval. You're not going to get that out of whether I can hand write code to figure out whether a number is prime.
I understand that for someone with little or no experience, this is a way to get to an applicant's knowledge. But it's not a real world example; the pressures are different and the problem scope is wrong.
I am an engineer by trade (making training simulators for chemical plant operators) and I have encountered more than my fair share of Computer Science graduates.
So what happened to the "software engineer?" That term seems to have fallen out of favor since I got my MS in it 15 years ago.
I went into that program because I saw software development as more than just arranging algorithms -- it was a whole discipline of HOW you did that arranging. To me, software engineering was looking at the entire life cycle of software, understanding that, and finding ways to improve on any of the steps.
No, the reason we have to put up with "the kinds of onerous security protocols..."
I think it's more the result of the Enron implosion creating a bureaucratic solution in the Sarbanes-Oxley legislation.
It is "easy" to make the rank-and-file IT workers change their password from one unmemorizable string to another every 30 days, and remove access that lets them do their jobs efficiently. That way, auditors from companies whose sole purpose in existence is to justify their consulting fees, can find more ways to show how the staff should not be trusted.
Never mind that it was the top management of companies like Enron who broke the public trust by reporting performance that fit their greed rather than the true numbers coming out of the IT systems.
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Oh, I worked at Kodak in the late '80s in backoffice stuff. That code was SO old and ravaged by the hordes of Mongol raiders of age that had been thru it, there were constant bugs to fix. I bet those Mobil employees had no trouble at Kodak.
I don't bother because my Gmail account is my throw-away account. It's the email I give out if I absolutely HAVE to, to sign up for some web site or something. I also know I have a fairly ("asdfasdf") password on it because I DON'T CARE. Things I do care about are under a different email, with strong passwords and TFA .
I think this article summarizes how I feel best:
http://www.roadandtrack.com/ca...
I think maybe it's time they make a comeback, when things like this are afoot: http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/07/wisconsin-seven-day-work-week/398189/
I, for one, welcome our new cybernetic overlords.
Mark Pocan also covers the city of Madison which is hardly rural. I'm glad that he is my representative and is backing legislation like this. It's sorely needed.
I had LASIK done 15 years ago and it cost me $5000. I've now reached the point (48) where I am presbyopic and a touch FAR sighted, so I am back to wearing glasses with progressive lenses all the time. It was the best thing I'd ever done for myself for the time I didn't wear glasses. However now glasses are so much more expensive that it was worth it from a cost perspective. My lenses alone are running $350. The upside is that eyeglasses style has also improved dramatically in 15 years. I actually don't mind how I look now with these glasses.
When you say, "recruiter," what do you mean? I get hit up constantly by places like Robert Half or TEKSystems, for the same few (local) jobs at places I don't want to work, for far less compensation than I am making now. I have told them I would consider something different, but it would have to be a move up, explain what "up" is, and then get fed crappy compensation values (ie. contract positions that have no/poor health insurance, no/poor PTO, no 401K). If a "real" recruiter were to contact me, I'd love to hear.
This. I just tried to argue this same point where I work; I work in an IT group that has a rotating 24x7 on call. We had employer-issued Blackberries, which both received SMS messages and could connect to email. Since we had had them for a while, the SMS alerts over time had evolved to "X has failed. Check your email for details." Then the company forced us to turn in our Blackberries and went to a BYOD. I tried, unsuccessfully, to argue your point. I get spotty coverage on my personal phone, and none in the building, so that would rule out my personal device. Plus I refuse to allow the company control of my device, stipend or no. The alternative was to accept a "penny phone" (a Samsung Chronos 2). I was very clear with my boss and boss' boss what that could mean for response to pages. So far, nothing has come up, but I also am kind of heistant to stray far from home when I am on call.
But here's what I don't understand - If the Eve program placed a bid at $24.99 for Alice's share, and it was accepted, why isn't that just a done deal, sold? Seems to me that if this was a real issue, right there is your fix. You get once chance at a bid. But since there are billions to be made by the people in control of the markets, I'm sure it's NOT an "issue."
The problem is that it is one thing for a concerned citizen to write their congressman and vote; but it takes someone who is really one in a million to run for office -- and it usually falls to the rich ones, not the righteous ones.
There. Fixed it for you.
But on a more serious note, it takes a large sum of cash to run for office these days. To garner enough to run for office, one either needs to be independently wealthy, or spend all of one's time raising donations rather than campaigning.
There is. It's called WAAS
I will plug Larry Niven's architectural coral, from "A Gift From Earth"
Yes, but if you rely on VOIP, and the power goes off, doesn't that also typically take out your modem? So you're still without phone service...
That could be cat-astropic.
Since, according TFA, they just moved offices from FL to San Francisco, and are renting 3000 square feet there. That cannot be cheap. If you're a strapped non-profit, why on earth would you go to one of the most expensive places in the country to run your internet-based business?
3. Despite being a techie and part time programmer where accuracy and preparation are paramount, I NEVER obey a recipe. Cooking is always about tasting and making things up as you go along, I cannot stand the formality around eating - serve it up with a nice wine or two to friends and just get on with enjoying it.
Ugh. I, too, am a techie geek and I find when I deviate even the slightest from a recipe, I create something that you could use as an adhesive to hold the tiles on the Space Shuttle.
All that's missing from that description is "synergy" and "paradigm." Throw those in there and the VC money will start flowing in ;)
Or you can yell, "BINGO!"
That way, maybe the credit card companies will stop wasting paper and resources to flood our mailboxes with unnecessary credit card applications and start thinking about how to improve the security of setting up a credit card.
No, all it would mean is that interest rates would go up, "convenience fees" would pop up everywhere and get ever-bigger....
Credit card companies would sieze every opportunity to pass on these costs to the consumer.
If a car is 20 years old, you can figure it out. Otherwise, cars, well, engines, are wrapped in plastic shields to hide the sheer number of electronic components. Heck throttles aren't even mechanical devices anymore. I rebuilt my '81 VW Rabbit engine from the block up and can hold that whole system in my head at once. I look under the hood at my '06 Golf and run. Screaming.
If that's how you structured it, then it's a very different story, and I would agree with your recommendation to not hire this person.
Oh, now this really irks me, because I've been in this same situation.
Here you take someone who is in a high-pressure situation - a job interview - and ask them to hand-write code for an algorithm they may not have familiarity with. Their first try at it, and you say to not hire them because they missed some of the nuances of the algorithm (only check odd factors, don't need to check factors larger than sqrt(x))? So you'd hire some math geek who'd figure that out right away over someone who might take a couple of tries at refinement? Would that math geek be able to talk to a less-technically savvy business analyst to understand how to implement a sales forecasting practice?
I don't do that in real-world development- I have domain experts that I can query for information on whether I am implementing correctly, I can refine, and I DON'T HAVE TO HAND-WRITE MY CODE. Not to mention that I am not worrying about whether I will be able to pay for food tomorrow if I can't do this RIGHT NOW.
I'm admittedly triggered by this example because I had a couple of interviews for jobs where I was asked to do just that - hand write code to solve math problems. I can't hand write code anymore well. I can hand-write design (pseudocode or UML), and I had over a decade's experience - that should prove that I can write code. And frankly, that is what the computer is for - to catch my misplaced semicolons or missed brackets, or to do some quick prototyping/unit testing. But I can also have experience planning out projects that meet deadlines, or presenting project proposals to upper management for funding approval. You're not going to get that out of whether I can hand write code to figure out whether a number is prime.
I understand that for someone with little or no experience, this is a way to get to an applicant's knowledge. But it's not a real world example; the pressures are different and the problem scope is wrong.
So what happened to the "software engineer?" That term seems to have fallen out of favor since I got my MS in it 15 years ago.
I went into that program because I saw software development as more than just arranging algorithms -- it was a whole discipline of HOW you did that arranging. To me, software engineering was looking at the entire life cycle of software, understanding that, and finding ways to improve on any of the steps.
No, the reason we have to put up with "the kinds of onerous security protocols..."
I think it's more the result of the Enron implosion creating a bureaucratic solution in the Sarbanes-Oxley legislation.
It is "easy" to make the rank-and-file IT workers change their password from one unmemorizable string to another every 30 days, and remove access that lets them do their jobs efficiently. That way, auditors from companies whose sole purpose in existence is to justify their consulting fees, can find more ways to show how the staff should not be trusted.
Never mind that it was the top management of companies like Enron who broke the public trust by reporting performance that fit their greed rather than the true numbers coming out of the IT systems.
So how many of you just went to Google and searched for Yahoo? How many of you just went to Yahoo and searched for Google?