Well, I have to kiss up to the customers or lose them (or my job), and my customers happen to be mostly in the USA. When I gotta pay the mortgage or eat, idealistic logic be damned.
However, if a large enough community Did get together to fork it...
That's indeed probably how it would happen. Let's say Russia, China, and N. Korea got together after a heated international incident and said, "I'm tired of USA dictating Internet standards. Let's create our own."
When they perfect the art, Europe may then start pondering the same thing...
that it won't just result in most every citizen trying to work around it to get to the "real" internet?
Most people are either not tech-savvy and/or don't want to work that hard.
I can't tell if you're saying that as being a good thing, or a bad thing?
It won't be what the USA-keeps-control faction expects. Whether that's good or bad is perhaps subjective. I'm afraid it could end up hurting compatibility and consistency of domain names, URL's, etc. across borders.
I had read that HTML 5 supported form-input date checking and had a pop-up calendar doo-dad. But the only format supported across browser brands is YYYY-MM-DD format, which is NOT what most customers in USA want.
You can twiddle with CSS etc. per brand and version, but one then might as well go back to time-tested JavaScript shit...
I'm tired of fiddling with piddly grunt UI issues, I wish I could focus on domain logic. It gets really boring seeing 25-year-old GUI idioms get both re- and mis-implemented 20 different ways over the years.
Forget keeping up with the damned Fadjoneses, just make a GUI standard that fucking works! Who cares if it looks like Windows 95, as long as its normal and works. Fuck the slidy animated throbbing doo-dads; they'll look "outdated" in 2 years anyhow to be replaced by mutant neon polkadots or whatnot and all the fanboys will chase yet another pot of UI gold beyond the horizon.
But if other nations don't like our management of it, they'll fork it, and then we'd lose control anyhow, AND have potentially fractured standards.
It's not as simple as us controlling it versus "them" controlling it. Unfortunately, the us-vs-them portrayal resonates better as a compact political sound-bite.
Yes, MS has repeatedly shown it will test the limits of hubris. The new boss is just like the old bosses. Misleading prompts for Windows 10 installs, snoopware, etc. etc.
honor [of evil] to "Bill Gates". It is truly tragic to consider where we could have been now, or even twenty years ago, if that ill-conceived cardboard substitute for an operating system hadn't been unleashed upon the world.
To be fair, some other corporate slimeball would probably screw up real competition if Gates hadn't. It seems to be the historical IT pattern. Before it was IBM, and now it's Google and Apple narrowing our choices.
Gates was probably thinking, "Somebody's gotta be the Wizard of Oz, might as well be me."
Agreed. The problem is that there are insufficient practical alternatives for those who want strong-typed and/or compiled languages.
C-sharp is also proprietary. I don't see any on the horizon that have enough market share to make them safe "enterprise" investments.
Part of the problem is that a static language is harder to design and get right than a dynamic one. Dynamic languages are easier to fudge and plug the holes of with dynamacy itself.
If one thing is off in a compiled language, you get no executable: it stops. Thus, it needs careful rules about name-spaces, type conflicts, etc. to not only compile properly, but have a syntax and model clear enough to be fixable by programmers.
Anything can be fouled up if you execute it wrong.
Print more direct money, and spend it on repairing infrastructure. That would create a good many construction and repair jobs. Much of that stuff has to be fixed anyhow; postponing it just makes it grow riskier and even more expensive to fix later.
The EU agreements are too all-or-nothing. There should be a way nation can skip or reduce some "features" of the agreement, such as open-borders. However, they'd be required to trade other things in exchange, like maybe promising more bail-out money for other member nations in the future.
It's like those damned bundled cable TV "deals". I wanna pick and choose rather than blunt all-or-nothing kind of packages.
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On behalf of Microsoft, I sincerely apologize for your inconveniences and troubles.
In return, please accept a free upgrade to Windows 10, and a free Wells Fargo banking card.
(FTFY)
just like my wish granted to me by the hard-of-hearing genie.
Dead men don't either
The HTML stack (HTML/CSS/JS/DOM) has jumped the shark so many times, the shark got carpal tunnel of the eyes.
Well, I have to kiss up to the customers or lose them (or my job), and my customers happen to be mostly in the USA. When I gotta pay the mortgage or eat, idealistic logic be damned.
That's indeed probably how it would happen. Let's say Russia, China, and N. Korea got together after a heated international incident and said, "I'm tired of USA dictating Internet standards. Let's create our own."
When they perfect the art, Europe may then start pondering the same thing...
Most people are either not tech-savvy and/or don't want to work that hard.
It won't be what the USA-keeps-control faction expects. Whether that's good or bad is perhaps subjective. I'm afraid it could end up hurting compatibility and consistency of domain names, URL's, etc. across borders.
I had read that HTML 5 supported form-input date checking and had a pop-up calendar doo-dad. But the only format supported across browser brands is YYYY-MM-DD format, which is NOT what most customers in USA want.
You can twiddle with CSS etc. per brand and version, but one then might as well go back to time-tested JavaScript shit...
I'm tired of fiddling with piddly grunt UI issues, I wish I could focus on domain logic. It gets really boring seeing 25-year-old GUI idioms get both re- and mis-implemented 20 different ways over the years.
Forget keeping up with the damned Fadjoneses, just make a GUI standard that fucking works! Who cares if it looks like Windows 95, as long as its normal and works. Fuck the slidy animated throbbing doo-dads; they'll look "outdated" in 2 years anyhow to be replaced by mutant neon polkadots or whatnot and all the fanboys will chase yet another pot of UI gold beyond the horizon.
and git off my lawn!
The difference between tests and actual is highest when depicting VW's on the screen.
But if other nations don't like our management of it, they'll fork it, and then we'd lose control anyhow, AND have potentially fractured standards.
It's not as simple as us controlling it versus "them" controlling it. Unfortunately, the us-vs-them portrayal resonates better as a compact political sound-bite.
It's like they are trying to one-up each other:
Microsoft: "We'll cure cancer."
Zuck&Chan: "Oh yah? We'll cure everything!"
Trump: "I'll cure everything twice as fast and make the germs pay for it!"
Hillary: "I already did all those, but unfortunately misplaced the emails with the formulas."
Yes, MS has repeatedly shown it will test the limits of hubris. The new boss is just like the old bosses. Misleading prompts for Windows 10 installs, snoopware, etc. etc.
There they have Life Blocker.
yah, they are Yuuuuge!
"The good news is your cancer is cured!"
"The bad news is you'll be down 3 hours every Friday night for updates, Mr. Nadella knows everything you do, and you have a Bing dick."
Onion.com, April 1st, and Satan had a 3-way to create this story-line
If female, her nickname is "Beta Betty"
You dictators, corporate and state, think alike.
Amazon invents criteria for "best buy" which coincidentally match their own products. Surprise surprise surprise.
To be fair, some other corporate slimeball would probably screw up real competition if Gates hadn't. It seems to be the historical IT pattern. Before it was IBM, and now it's Google and Apple narrowing our choices.
Gates was probably thinking, "Somebody's gotta be the Wizard of Oz, might as well be me."
Agreed. The problem is that there are insufficient practical alternatives for those who want strong-typed and/or compiled languages.
C-sharp is also proprietary. I don't see any on the horizon that have enough market share to make them safe "enterprise" investments.
Part of the problem is that a static language is harder to design and get right than a dynamic one. Dynamic languages are easier to fudge and plug the holes of with dynamacy itself.
If one thing is off in a compiled language, you get no executable: it stops. Thus, it needs careful rules about name-spaces, type conflicts, etc. to not only compile properly, but have a syntax and model clear enough to be fixable by programmers.
Anything can be fouled up if you execute it wrong.
Print more direct money, and spend it on repairing infrastructure. That would create a good many construction and repair jobs. Much of that stuff has to be fixed anyhow; postponing it just makes it grow riskier and even more expensive to fix later.
The EU agreements are too all-or-nothing. There should be a way nation can skip or reduce some "features" of the agreement, such as open-borders. However, they'd be required to trade other things in exchange, like maybe promising more bail-out money for other member nations in the future.
It's like those damned bundled cable TV "deals". I wanna pick and choose rather than blunt all-or-nothing kind of packages.
+5 funny, -5 PC
It's the American spirit to take some proverbial arrows in the back* for progress.
Further, this has the potential to reduce accident rates down the road (pun partially intended).
We sacrifice for the future by taking some risk up front for better safety later on. It's an investment in infrastructure.
* I suppose that saying is not PC