Well, I'd seriously doubt Apple would have waited to enter into negotiations till after Cisco released their phone. On the other hand, they were so secretive on the whole product development side, they well could have waited to the last minute. Again - will be fun to find out. Dirty laundry here we come!
Oh yes - great point (among many, and I worked in advertising and marketing and though I'd heard all options from the various legal groups we worked with on this tack). This has got to be a business lawyer's wet dream. Rossie O Donnel and Trump are nothing to the corporate pron that's about to ensue.
Look at it this way - it gives us something to watch for 6 months.
Perhaps they figured it'd be cheaper to invalidate the trademark in court than fork over a ton of money forever like they did with the Beatles. It's worked once, and if it bleeds Cisco a few million for fun before they end up changing it to "Apple Phone" - all the better.
Not sure. You don't have to have the same name to be slapped with Trade Dress issues regarding trademarks. The fact that iMac preceeded the Cisco art obtained in 2000 could have merit (note I said could). Another angle is the fact that it was over 6 years before Cisco used the name. Are there any non-usage restrictions in this area?
It's gonna be a fun show. Previous reports were that negotiations were going fine. A pissed Steve Jobs makes a wonderful fireworks display as public embarassment after a long project debut. Can't wait.
One industrial application would be movie theatres. If the dim-factor can be addressed (has it ever?) then digital projection would finally have the ultimate parity with film.
BTW - they mentioned Westinghouse. Who the hell is rolling the glass for them? I'm actually looking at a Westinghouse LCD at some time in the near-future. Is it decent overall?
There was a lot made of the early specs of the PS3, one of them being it was capable of driving not one - but two 1080p displays in tandem. The potential of this being used in real-life led to it being dropped (so the story goes). If the PS3 was truely capable of driving two 1080p's wouldn't it be possible to drive a single 2160?
I recall that many early 30 inch progessive display cards used two cards in tandem to spit the screen into two vertical halves. If the PS3 video system has the omph, could it be similarly done?
Don't know how BIG the display would have to be to be ideal either. I recall that 1080p is barely perceptible with anything under 37-40 inches. I can only imagine the optimal size you'd need to see the advantages of Quad HDTV.
When Razrs first came out at "a high price of $500 with service agreement and $800 without" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Razr - I wondered how people were faring on the streets with the thing muggingwise. 3 years later they're freebies from just-about every major cell-phone vendor out there. Curious how long it'll take for Apple to be in the same camp (hope hope). In the meantime, I'd keep that bluetooth headset handy when on the sidewalks.
Well actually, the secondary function are robust. So I can ditch my 2 megapixel camera (yes it's old) for one that can email from itself on standard wifi (not an overpriced cellpackage), a decent iPod with video (the screen puts the current video ipod to shame, and I don't like to manage 20 gigs of tunes - but that's just me (seriously - I'm too anal retentive to manage a best-list more than 4 gigs), and it's a decent phone with real web functionality. So, I can upgrade from my shuffle, ditch the canon, and have a swank phone. If any of the functions were crippled like my current phone (or expensive or unusable - thank YOU Verizon) then I'd balk at the price. The combo makes for less crap to pack on my person, so it's "ok". Sure I'd love it for 400 - but at this point it's got more features than a mere widescreen ipod video which I was expecting to pay 400 for.
Verizon cripples their phones by turning off any OBEX capability. Basically the bluetooth can only synch with address lists. That's it. Photos, tunes, anything else basically is locked out. You can hack it - but trust me - this isn't a simple task. I work with a cell-phone software company, but not everyone else does. Having an open-phone that has as much functionality as an ipod as a phone - and a camera that matches the pixels of my current cannon mini is very - very tempting indeed. I'd probably keep the Verizon just for the family calling plan it's attached to until it expires, and use Apple's as my main-phone.
Same here. I remembered driving cross-country and listening to all the call-to-arms against the govt spewing out of the radio. As soon as the Oklahoma City bombing occured I was the only one in my office who pegged it as the act of "right wing nutjobs" who actually believed the crap being thrown onto the airwaves as infotainment. But hey - don't worry - there's plenty more nutjobs where that came from.
Here's my prediction for 2007 (you heard it here first) Nancy Pelosi will be assasinated by a right-wing fuck-up, and the video of the event will have fantastic commentator coverage on Fox News.
Well, I'm just glad they stepped up to what was a very expensive plate and recalled the darn things rather than point fingers at the manufacturer and claimed "it was their problem". Half a billion dollars to fix the damn things is something I don't see American companies do without a govt mandate.
If there's not an engine of some kind producing new tech businesses, you can now fuck off please and go back to your wanna-be status. New York City - I'm looking at YOU. Got any lawyers deferring up to 50,000.00 dollars worth of business to help seed-service new shops or are you still nickle and dimeing them to death? Feh, Bah, and mmmmMMMMeh!
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Like the tiff between Columbia pictures and Filmation over the use of the term "Ghostbusters" in their animated properties.
"The REAL iPhone".
And everyone else can go back to calling Cisco's "the other iPhone", "the wanna-be iPhone", "the iPhone in name only".
With the legal system ready to pounch - you'd be a dick of the highest order of you opened your fucking mouth - ever.
Well, I'd seriously doubt Apple would have waited to enter into negotiations till after Cisco released their phone. On the other hand, they were so secretive on the whole product development side, they well could have waited to the last minute. Again - will be fun to find out. Dirty laundry here we come!
Would it fucking kill anyone to check the parent before modding. Fucking geniuses coming here from Digg I tells ya.
Oh yes - great point (among many, and I worked in advertising and marketing and though I'd heard all options from the various legal groups we worked with on this tack). This has got to be a business lawyer's wet dream. Rossie O Donnel and Trump are nothing to the corporate pron that's about to ensue.
Look at it this way - it gives us something to watch for 6 months.
Poor guy - his headstick got stick between the keys. Cripples are so darn funny ya know? Ooo, look at the drool! It's like a rainbow!
Perhaps they figured it'd be cheaper to invalidate the trademark in court than fork over a ton of money forever like they did with the Beatles. It's worked once, and if it bleeds Cisco a few million for fun before they end up changing it to "Apple Phone" - all the better.
Not sure. You don't have to have the same name to be slapped with Trade Dress issues regarding trademarks. The fact that iMac preceeded the Cisco art obtained in 2000 could have merit (note I said could). Another angle is the fact that it was over 6 years before Cisco used the name. Are there any non-usage restrictions in this area?
It's gonna be a fun show. Previous reports were that negotiations were going fine. A pissed Steve Jobs makes a wonderful fireworks display as public embarassment after a long project debut. Can't wait.
Massachusetts gets ready to hand ESA and their lawyers large pile of money.
ESA representatives report, like our hat? It's made of MONEY! Hey wan't to know what's for lunch? MONEY!
Uh actually the ps3 doesn't take ps2 controllers or peripherals at least not without an adapter. The plugs are different for one thing....
oop - that would be correct sir. I was thinking vertical only.
Given the Wii and the PS3 are standard wireless, how does that lawsuit work again? With base-model 360s?
One industrial application would be movie theatres. If the dim-factor can be addressed (has it ever?) then digital projection would finally have the ultimate parity with film.
BTW - they mentioned Westinghouse. Who the hell is rolling the glass for them? I'm actually looking at a Westinghouse LCD at some time in the near-future. Is it decent overall?
There was a lot made of the early specs of the PS3, one of them being it was capable of driving not one - but two 1080p displays in tandem. The potential of this being used in real-life led to it being dropped (so the story goes). If the PS3 was truely capable of driving two 1080p's wouldn't it be possible to drive a single 2160?
I recall that many early 30 inch progessive display cards used two cards in tandem to spit the screen into two vertical halves. If the PS3 video system has the omph, could it be similarly done?
Don't know how BIG the display would have to be to be ideal either. I recall that 1080p is barely perceptible with anything under 37-40 inches. I can only imagine the optimal size you'd need to see the advantages of Quad HDTV.
Good point.
When Razrs first came out at "a high price of $500 with service agreement and $800 without" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Razr - I wondered how people were faring on the streets with the thing muggingwise. 3 years later they're freebies from just-about every major cell-phone vendor out there. Curious how long it'll take for Apple to be in the same camp (hope hope). In the meantime, I'd keep that bluetooth headset handy when on the sidewalks.
Does the thing record video with the camera as well or just pictures? If not then the Razr still has them beat in that department.
Well actually, the secondary function are robust. So I can ditch my 2 megapixel camera (yes it's old) for one that can email from itself on standard wifi (not an overpriced cellpackage), a decent iPod with video (the screen puts the current video ipod to shame, and I don't like to manage 20 gigs of tunes - but that's just me (seriously - I'm too anal retentive to manage a best-list more than 4 gigs), and it's a decent phone with real web functionality. So, I can upgrade from my shuffle, ditch the canon, and have a swank phone. If any of the functions were crippled like my current phone (or expensive or unusable - thank YOU Verizon) then I'd balk at the price. The combo makes for less crap to pack on my person, so it's "ok". Sure I'd love it for 400 - but at this point it's got more features than a mere widescreen ipod video which I was expecting to pay 400 for.
Verizon cripples their phones by turning off any OBEX capability. Basically the bluetooth can only synch with address lists. That's it. Photos, tunes, anything else basically is locked out. You can hack it - but trust me - this isn't a simple task. I work with a cell-phone software company, but not everyone else does. Having an open-phone that has as much functionality as an ipod as a phone - and a camera that matches the pixels of my current cannon mini is very - very tempting indeed. I'd probably keep the Verizon just for the family calling plan it's attached to until it expires, and use Apple's as my main-phone.
6 million by March is what Sony said. You lick Zonk's cock well though. How'd it taste? Salty?
re:"Yell & scream & rant & rave... it's no use... you need a shaaaave ~ Bugs Bunny"
I prefer the next verse "There - you're nice and cleeeeean! - Even , though , your face , looks like, it went, though , a , ma-chine..."
Same here. I remembered driving cross-country and listening to all the call-to-arms against the govt spewing out of the radio. As soon as the Oklahoma City bombing occured I was the only one in my office who pegged it as the act of "right wing nutjobs" who actually believed the crap being thrown onto the airwaves as infotainment. But hey - don't worry - there's plenty more nutjobs where that came from.
Here's my prediction for 2007 (you heard it here first) Nancy Pelosi will be assasinated by a right-wing fuck-up, and the video of the event will have fantastic commentator coverage on Fox News.
Actually crushed Ramen makes a great addtion to Cole-Slaw. Nice side salad.
Spelling might be a solution.
Well, I'm just glad they stepped up to what was a very expensive plate and recalled the darn things rather than point fingers at the manufacturer and claimed "it was their problem". Half a billion dollars to fix the damn things is something I don't see American companies do without a govt mandate.
If there's not an engine of some kind producing new tech businesses, you can now fuck off please and go back to your wanna-be status. New York City - I'm looking at YOU. Got any lawyers deferring up to 50,000.00 dollars worth of business to help seed-service new shops or are you still nickle and dimeing them to death? Feh, Bah, and mmmmMMMMeh!