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Father of Instant Ramen Passes Away

Chained Fei writes "Ando Momofuku, Father of the Instant Ramen, passed away on January 5th at the age of 96. He concocted the idea for Instant Ramen after WWII, hoping to reduce the amount of poor nourishment for soldiers in the field. If not for this great man, many a poor college student and programmer would have starved over the years. From the article: 'In 1971, Nissin introduced the Cup Noodle featuring instant ramen in a waterproof plastic foam container. Dubbed the "Ramen King," Ando is credited with expanding Nissin into the No. 1 company in the industry and was well-known for his dedication to his work ... In 1999, Ando opened the Momofuku Ando Instant Ramen Museum in Ikeda, Osaka Prefecture, after installing his second son, Koki, as president of the company.'"

195 comments

  1. RIP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Ando was inspired to develop the instant noodle after coming upon a long line of people on a cold night shortly after World War II waiting to buy freshly made ramen at a black market food stall, according to Nissin.
    The experience convinced him that "Peace will come to the world when the people have enough to eat," it said.

    1. Re:RIP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can't decide if I should criticize you for ripping your comment right out of the article, or congratulate you for reading the article.

    2. Re:RIP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh wow, Slashdot is liek 2 days behind everyone else with this news.

      Also: good night sweet prince. I'll be having an instant ramen + cheap beer diner tonight in your memory.

    3. Re:RIP by Bloke+down+the+pub · · Score: 2, Funny
      "Peace will come to the world when the people have enough to eat,"
      What about the wolves?
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    4. Re:RIP by markbark · · Score: 2, Funny

      What about the wolves?
      If enough people come, they'll have plenty to eat too!

    5. Re:RIP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      orson scott card's books suck.

    6. Re:RIP by ch-chuck · · Score: 1

      "Peace will come to the world when the people have enough to eat,"

      Hunger is infinite - no matter how much you have, you want more. Nobody get's 'enough'. Unless they have natural constraints or pretty good self control, people will usually get into some kind of escalating snit, usually over the vainist of issues like 'national pride', a flag, honor, or something.

      Just look at how well we Americans are fed, and what our military budget is.

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    7. Re:RIP by sexybomber · · Score: 1

      He sounds like he was a good guy. May delicious pasta angels whisk his soul into the embrace of the FSM.

  2. Ate much ramen? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    I wonder how much ramen he ate himself, afterall it has almost a days worth of sodium in one packet of ramen. That can't be good for your body.

    1. Re:Ate much ramen? by jazir1979 · · Score: 1

      Maybe not, since he lived to 96yo..

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    2. Re:Ate much ramen? by The+Clockwork+Troll · · Score: 3, Funny

      His body was 96 but he had lost his noodle long before.

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    3. Re:Ate much ramen? by Spazntwich · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Sodium is not nearly as bad as many people have been lead to believe. Doctors will frequently tell their hypertension patients to cut as much sodium from their diets as possible, but this is because a portion of the population is hypersensitive to sodium, and there is no way to tell whether or not cutting sodium can help their blood pressure until a low sodium diet is tried. If the patient responds well to the low sodium intake, then other more drastic measures like medication can be avoided.

      Keep in mind that until the advent of modern preservatives (the most commonly used one is still sodium) and refrigeration/freezing, the primary method of preserving a variety of foods involved salt curing, and many people of long ago had daily intakes of sodium that would be considered astronomical by today's standards, yet managed to find many interesting ways to die that didn't involve stroke or heart attack.

      The more you know.

    4. Re:Ate much ramen? by jazir1979 · · Score: 1

      hahahha. +1 mildly amusing. well done!

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    5. Re:Ate much ramen? by misanthrope101 · · Score: 1
      many people of long ago had daily intakes of sodium that would be considered astronomical by today's standards, yet managed to find many interesting ways to die that didn't involve stroke or heart attack.
      Being tortured to death by Genghis Khan might qualify as interesting, but I'll take an old-fashioned heart attack any day. The plague, too, would be far from boring. But I think part of the reason people didn't die back then from conditions endemic to old age is that disease and other factors killed them before they got to old age. But I admit our diet does play a role. Diabetes is becoming more common, and so on.
    6. Re:Ate much ramen? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      I suspect research into sodium in the diet is skewed. People who eat high sodium diets are likely to be eating cheaper foodstuffs lacking in alternative/more expensive flavouring - i.e. junk food. Which puts them in the demographic that's more likely to smoke (unconcerned about health issues), be in a lower income bracket receiving poorer health care and probably less in access to recreational/sporting venues (or are just lazier). Dedicated sports activists aren't likely to each cup-o-noodles much. I find it hard to believe that clinical testing can account for all this within their budget allowance.

      Daro

    7. Re:Ate much ramen? by TobyWong · · Score: 1

      You can completely take the sodium out of the equation and you are still left with an overly processed saturated fat laden carb bomb.

      http://www.dietfacts.com/html/nutrition-facts/niss in-cup-noodles-beef-flavor-ramen-noodle-soup-45190 .htm

      Add all the veggies you want, there is nothing "healthy" about that.

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    8. Re:Ate much ramen? by Spazntwich · · Score: 1

      And what does that have to do with the price of tea in China, friend?

      He asked about eating too much sodium. I answered. I don't even know why you would bother bringing this up with me, as it's totally unrelated to the subject of our discussion.

    9. Re:Ate much ramen? by TobyWong · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Please try to keep up here.

      Debating whether or not there is too much salt in raman noodles is like debating whether or not the blue cyanide pill is healthier than the red one because "red food coloring makes kids hyper".

      Next time try to connect the dots yourself so I don't have to do it for you.

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    10. Re:Ate much ramen? by Spazntwich · · Score: 1

      Regardless of whether or not you approve of the subject of our debate, your points were irrelevant to it buddy boy.

    11. Re:Ate much ramen? by iamlucky13 · · Score: 1
      Add all the veggies you want, there is nothing "healthy" about that.

      Ummm...how about 7 grams of protein, 25% of your daily iron, and 300 grams of carbohydrates (They aren't evil. The body uses carbs effectively for energy. There have been health problems linked to low-carb diets), and 25 grams of fiber?

      And sodium is critical in maintaining water balance in your cells and and also allowing nerve and muscle activity. I personally get really bad headaches if I get dehydrated from physical activity because of low sodium levels. Because of the way food is generally prepared these days, low sodium is less of a problem than high sodium, but it still is necessary.

      Nobody's claiming ramen is a health miracle, and a diet based on it would be very poorly balanced, but it can definitely be part of a healthy diet.

  3. Oh noes! by mind21_98 · · Score: 1

    Now I'll have to crawl out of my mother's basement for food!

    1. Re:Oh noes! by Rosyna · · Score: 1

      I think all of us basement dweller types should forego our usual eating habits today and eat a cup of instant ramen in Ando's honor.

    2. Re:Oh noes! by mikkelm · · Score: 4, Funny

      How is that foregoing anything?

  4. Soldiers Love It! by Mork29 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    He concocted the idea for Instant Ramen after WWII, hoping to reduce the amount of poor nourishment for soldiers in the field.

    I'll tell you that soldiers eat this stuff in the field all of the time. I'm in a unit that fields the http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/new s/2002/05/mil-020529-usa01.htm Stryker which has a water heater inside of it. I'd say it gets used for cooking ramen almost as much as it does for heating MREs (Meal Ready to Eat). Soldiers love this as much as any college student. I can't imagine somebody who doesn't love Ramen though...
    1. Re:Soldiers Love It! by nathanh · · Score: 2, Interesting
      I can't imagine somebody who doesn't love Ramen though...

      I can't stand the stuff. It's oily and salty and plain nasty. I'd rather cook something fresh than eat the freeze-dried instant carbohydrate disaster that is instant ramen.

    2. Re:Soldiers Love It! by Matt+Edd · · Score: 1

      Agreed. I make my own bread, granola, pickles, muffins... things that take less than 20 minutes of work (with a stand mixer in the case of the bread). I eat healthy, tasty food because I put in just a bit of effort. Hell, I might even save time since most things I make last 6+ meals. The drawback may be cost but my meals are still cheaper than fast food.

    3. Re:Soldiers Love It! by schon · · Score: 1

      I can't imagine somebody who doesn't love Ramen

      It's horrid, foul stuff with no nutritional value whatsoever.

      This sums it up about right.

    4. Re:Soldiers Love It! by cloudmaster · · Score: 1

      You know that you can buy a box of granola for about the same cost as just buying a can of rolled oats, right? "Saving time", bah.

      The bread, though, I'll grant you - home made bread rocks. :)

    5. Re:Soldiers Love It! by Matt+Edd · · Score: 1

      A box of granola has a lot of preservatives in it. I did concede on the cost point, however a can of rolled oats costs me slightly more than one granola bar. As for time, I was comparing it to the time it takes to make ramen and I didn't say that it did save me time but that it might. I can make 12 muffins in less time (even with cooking) than it takes to individually make 12 meals of ramen. The bread and granola bars would take longer. Making loose granola is 2 minutes of work and 1.5 hours of roasting. Not as fast but not exactly labor intensive. (Also, most bought loose granola has nuts in it and I don't like nuts.) I'm not saying ramen doesn't have its place... or granola bars or store bought bread however. There's just a nice balance where, with 5x the time, you can eat 100x better than ramen. And yes, I just can't bring myself to buy bread anymore. Best thing since sliced bread? Sliced bread was the worst idea ever.

    6. Re:Soldiers Love It! by M.+Baranczak · · Score: 1

      I can't imagine somebody who doesn't love Ramen though.

      1. "Ramen" is a traditional Japanese dish consisting of noodles and broth, sometimes garnished with meat, vegetables, tofu, etc. What you are referring to is "instant ramen", which has only a tenuous connection with the real stuff.

      2. You don't have to imagine it - there's plenty of people who can't stomach the stuff, myself included. Although I might feel differently if I was living in an armored personnel carrier.

    7. Re:Soldiers Love It! by dodongo · · Score: 1
      I can't stand the stuff. It's oily and salty and plain nasty. I'd rather cook something fresh than eat the freeze-dried instant carbohydrate disaster that is instant ramen.


      Of course you don't eat instant ramen, then: you're missing the point! I'd rather cook something too, but that's precisely the time instant ramen is 100% NOT made for!
    8. Re:Soldiers Love It! by cloudmaster · · Score: 1

      Admittedly, I've never had home-made granola. Perhaps it's well worth the investment. :) Baked good certainly are.

  5. Instant Ramen = Long Life? by jellie · · Score: 1

    The Chinese believed eating long noodles would lead to a long life... so does eating lots of instant ramen allow us to live into our 90s? Well, that and a fairly large fortune.

    So the moral of the story: Don't eat crushed, uncooked ramen noodles with the packets added in. I know you've done this before too! In the future, don't bother crushing it. (I know it's not Nissin, but the Maruchan stuff was good too..)

    1. Re:Instant Ramen = Long Life? by Joebert · · Score: 1

      I'm too lazy to crush the noodles or dig tiny pieces out with my fork, I shake all the broken pieces off my block into the trash & toss the block in the boiling water.

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    2. Re:Instant Ramen = Long Life? by mgabrys_sf · · Score: 1

      Actually crushed Ramen makes a great addtion to Cole-Slaw. Nice side salad.

    3. Re:Instant Ramen = Long Life? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you like eating raw, crushed ramen, try the shrimp Tom Yum-style Thai instant noodle that comes in silvery package (the brand is Mama). It's good enough to eat without even adding the seasoning packet since it's already seasonned.

  6. Truly a Miracle by triikan · · Score: 5, Funny

    Ramen noodles are proof of the far reach of the FSM's noodly appendage.

    1. Re:Truly a Miracle by tiluki · · Score: 5, Funny

      Ramen to that!

    2. Re:Truly a Miracle by Maekrix · · Score: 1

      Indeed. May FSM bless this unknown preacher of His Noodliness.

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    3. Re:Truly a Miracle by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      Ramen noodles are proof of the far reach of the FSM's noodly appendage.

      Sinners! Thou shalt not eat thy maker!

    4. Re:Truly a Miracle by Gryle · · Score: 1

      Think of it as sort of an FSM communion

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  7. Oh memories by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I remember in junior high school people would bring instant ramen to school, and many would eat it out of the package without even adding hot water (or any water for that matter). It was the "cool" thing to do for some groups of people. In general, instant ramen is okay, but without adding hot water, seems like disguisting shit to me.

    1. Re:Oh memories by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      seems like disguisting shit to me

      Have you tried it? It's actually decent, in a pinch--and at ~10 cents for a rather large brick, they're highly cost-effective for satisfying hunger. Just smash it all up into smaller pieces, mix in powder, and you're set.

  8. Favorite Flavor! by deltavivis · · Score: 1

    Salsa Picante Shrimp

    I'm simmering a fresh Cup Noodles right now to mark the passing. So, any other favorites?

    1. Re:Favorite Flavor! by indigest · · Score: 1

      I have a blog full of favorites and some not so favorites.

    2. Re:Favorite Flavor! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oriental Chicken sometimes I'll blend it with roasted chicken. Recently I've been dooing a blend of it, soba noodles, and caned (or frozen) vegi's slightly roasted. Not quite "instant" but still very quick-and darn good. :)

  9. There must be a mistake... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I thought instant ramen came from heaven...

    1. Re:There must be a mistake... by RMB2 · · Score: 1

      ... yah, my understanding is that it originated near the volcano, to the left of the midgit

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    2. Re:There must be a mistake... by gamer4Life · · Score: 4, Funny

      It did. The FSM sent it's beloved son, Ando Momofuku, to the world to teach the world about FSM through Ramen. The FSM exists, simultaneously and eternally, as a mutual indwelling of two beings - the FSM and Ando Momofuku. You might ask yourself, "Why?!" -- the answer my friend, is to just accept it, the FSM works in mysterious ways.

      Ra-men, brother.

    3. Re:There must be a mistake... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are my favorite commenter.

    4. Re:There must be a mistake... by marcello_dl · · Score: 1

      Being used to eat proper spaghetti alla pummarola, I took the liberty of call an exorcist to take care of your insanity. He refused to see you, though.

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  10. Ando Momofuku was a Bodhisattva... by bushwhacker2000 · · Score: 1

    who came to earth to share his secret art. I'm sure his soul will rise to the pureland of Ramen Buddha (similar to Amitabha's pureland but with Cup Noodles on the menu).

  11. What a heart warming story by joss · · Score: 4, Funny

    That guy needed success so he could move into a good neighbourhood.
    It must have been confusing for him in a bad neighbourhood...
    random stranger: "Hey, momofuka"
    Ando: "how did you know my name"

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    1. Re:What a heart warming story by All_One_Mind · · Score: 1

      Ha. I thought he was just confused because everyone there ate his prosperity food.

    2. Re:What a heart warming story by Overzeetop · · Score: 1

      Yeah, if he'd been in a better neighborhood, they would have called him Macaca.

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    3. Re:What a heart warming story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good God the jokes, they write themselves...

      [...] his second son, Koki Momofuku [...]
  12. A Hero by Quzak · · Score: 0

    Everyone lets raise a cup of ramen to the fallen hero. He will be missed.

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    1. Re:A Hero by RulerOf · · Score: 4, Interesting

      In Memoriam.

      Over to my pantry I stroll, to pull out my long unopened pack of Nissin Top Ramen. I shall make a bowl to mark this tragic day.

      Cheers, Slashdot.

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  13. The Ramen Museum by erexx23 · · Score: 1

    The Ramen Museum has got to be one of the new 7 wonders of the world.
    It's AWESOME!

  14. Ode to ramen by perfessor+multigeek · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Yeah, sure, he started this. Of course when it first came out it was ungodly expensive, so right there it wasn't quite what it is now.

    But then again, AFAIC, at this point ramen is still the perfect geek food.

    1.) It's hugely high tech. That little fifty cent packet depends on freeze-drying, foil packaging (thank you NASA), fifth or later gen styrofoam if it's in a cup (only recent gens are low in leached plasticizers), chances are you're cooking it in a microwave oven, and on and on. An awful lot of geek skull sweat went into every little pack of noodly goodness.

    2.) It's truly imternational. Go for it, tell me again about the evil American cultural hegemony. Ramen is a Chinese food reworked by a Japanese inventor, and increasingly done in south Asian flavors, all sold through American-style distibution.

    3.) It's a triumph of free-market capitalism. A better product that succeeded because it is better and getting constantly revised due to low barriers to entry and fierce competition.

    4.) It's hackable. Don't want the palm oil? Drain off the water before you eat it and rinse in fresh hot water. Want to add stuff? Folks have been customizing their ramen for thousands of years. Add peanut butter and veggies and it's damn healthy.

    5.) It's still cheap. State of the art product for sale so cheap you can buy a case of it for the cost of one meal at, say, Dennys, let alone real food.

    Hell, yeah. Ramen. Gimme some more.

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    1. Re:Ode to ramen by reub2000 · · Score: 1

      I prefer ramen that isn't instant. There's a place in Arlington Hights, IL that serves ramen. Yummy stuff, too bad it's not very close to my house.

    2. Re:Ode to ramen by TheLink · · Score: 5, Informative

      There are air dried versions of ramen, and those have negligible amounts of oil.

      These often don't come with any flavouring as well, so you may have to do a bit of cooking if you don't have extra flavour packets around.

      You could fry in olive oil and black pepper + a bit of chopped parsley, then add a fried egg. Yes you're adding oil back again, but good olive oil is worth it :). With the egg the entire meal gives you a fair balance of carbo, protein and fat.

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    3. Re:Ode to ramen by Joebert · · Score: 1
      That little fifty cent packet

      I get 6 packets of Ramen for $0.79 here.
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    4. Re:Ode to ramen by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 2, Informative

      Fried egg? Nah, just scramble one up in a cup and then dump it in your boiling ramen at the end. Whisk it around with a fork for about 5 seconds and you're done. Of course, this only works with non-instant ramen.

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    5. Re:Ode to ramen by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 1

      Derr, i meant non-microwavable, not non-instant.

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    6. Re:Ode to ramen by foreverdisillusioned · · Score: 1

      That little fifty cent packet

      $0.50 for a single packet of ramen? You got ripped off, dude.

    7. Re:Ode to ramen by TheLink · · Score: 1

      Yeah, that works well with the soup based ramen. The one I was talking about was for the those that don't include soup.

      The average student could probably survive long enough on a diet of just instant ramen and boiled fresh egg to graduate or drop out for other reasons.

      Not recommended though :).

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    8. Re:Ode to ramen by SunTzuWarmaster · · Score: 1

      What's the point? If I was going for non-microwavable, non-instant food, I'd go with a Totino's pizza - 75 cents at SuperSaver. - Poor, starving, broke, lazy college student/intern

    9. Re:Ode to ramen by Walt+Dismal · · Score: 1
      In memorium, relatives plan to dehydrate Ando Momofuku and place him in a giant cup for eternity, or until Godzilla gets hungry.

      Rest in peace, Momofuku-san.

    10. Re:Ode to ramen by MrBandersnatch · · Score: 1

      6 for $0.79?!?! Wowww!

      In the UK, the only place from which I can buy Ramen charges between 80 pence and £1.80 a pot!!!! (to be fair it is the genuine article imported from Japan).

      Sadly, over here we have a product called "Pot Noodle" which has somehow managed to occupy the place where Ramen should be. After years of eating that muck on occassion, it was a truly miraculous thing to see how Japanese vegitables somehow rehydrated into something that looked and tasted like a vegitable! I seriously cant understand how something as nice as Ramen was transformed into something as ghastly as "Pot Noodle".

    11. Re:Ode to ramen by Spokehedz · · Score: 1

      Pot-Noodle is so disgusting...

      It's like eating a McDonalds hamburger that's been sitting under the heatlamps too long: It just dosen't taste like anything even remotely close to food anymore.

    12. Re:Ode to ramen by Damastus+the+WizLiz · · Score: 1

      I bought a case of 12 cup o noodles for a dollar plus tax. I can get 24 packages of stove top instant ramen for 1.50.

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    13. Re:Ode to ramen by Joebert · · Score: 1

      *bows*
      We're not worthy !

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    14. Re:Ode to ramen by PlasticArmyMan · · Score: 1

      It's not all that bad really. Tesco do an el cheapo version of noodles for about 9p complete with flavouring sachet, so you could eat like a king (albeit a poor one) for days on a fiver! Although I'm not sure if they're still around, the Samar brand of instant noodles at about 20p each are probably the ones I'll always remember, although if anyone was eating their curry noodles around 96-97 will remember they changed the flavour and it was horrible. Luckily they changed it back...

    15. Re:Ode to ramen by yokem_55 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I knew somebody in school who while studying abroad in Germany, had a diet that consisted of saltine crackers, tomato paste, and tuna. According to him he kept himself fed for $2/day. Granted, he could have been eating better if he weren't spending $50/week on beer, but he figured that he needed to more fully study the culture while he was there and thus aligned his dietary priorities accordingly.

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    16. Re:Ode to ramen by TheLink · · Score: 1

      Well, tuna is decent enough food (except for modern day pollutants - PCB, mercury - which don't kill quickly at usual tuna levels), and so I guess is tomato paste :).

      May even have been better than a diet of beer, sausages and sauerkraut ;).

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  15. Sodium is still bad news by perfessor+multigeek · · Score: 5, Informative

    Yes and no. Let's keep in mind that most people unless a few generations back dies too young for us to know how bad their heart disease would have been. They also, on average, exercised far more. Remember, going to take a crap used to mean walking out to the yard and back. Getting your room warm meant building a fire. Traveling quickly meant riding a horse. Stuff we do effortlessly took more exertion for them than many modern folks experience in a routine at the gym.

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    1. Re:Sodium is still bad news by Ucklak · · Score: 1

      Can you imagine having to take a crap out back in blizzard weather?

      What was the psyche when locomotives were being developed? The ability to travel faster than a horse must have been pretty amazing then. I wonder if anyone had any breathing problems with the speed.

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    2. Re:Sodium is still bad news by tgd · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Thats not entirely true... the increasing life expectancy these days is mostly because of two things -- better workplace safety and most importantly a massive reduction in infant mortality rates.

      It doesn't take a lot of people dying at 1 to pull the averages down a lot...

      Thats true of differences between countries today, too. Pull out children below the age of 5, and the numbers start to even out a lot more.

    3. Re:Sodium is still bad news by foreverdisillusioned · · Score: 1

      The GP's supporting argument might not have been entirely sound, but I'd still like to see the research that proves (or strongly suggests) that sodium causes hypertension where none previously existed. I know it's only anecdotal, but I eat *way* more salt than most people I know (they always complain that my food is too salty) but my blood pressure is actually well below normal.

    4. Re:Sodium is still bad news by kfg · · Score: 5, Interesting

      . . .a massive reduction in infant mortality rates.

      And mortality rates of the mothers. It wasn't at all uncommon for a man to go through two or three wives. Childbirth was extremely risky. That's why infant mortality and deaths due to child birth are the still the two primary indicators of healty care quality.

      On the more generic picture, while fewer people get eaten by bears these days, more of them fall asleep at the wheel. Familiarty breeds contempt, but contempt does not imply that the activity is actually safe. With a bit of practice you can fall asleep at the reins and you will end up . . .home.

      And the biggest saver of lives in modern times isn't avoidence of certain risk factors. If you crunch the numbers from the raw data you find that the theoretical maximum possible effect of this is really, quite, quite small. So small as to be at the borderline of precision of measurment.

      What keeps larger numbers of us who manage to make it to 21 alive to see 75 is really a very small number of things:

      Knowledge of germs
      Antipyretics

      Aspirin; sanitation; antibiotics and vaccines. The simple, basic stuff is responsible for 99.99% of increased adult lifespans.

      Most of our more advanced medical practices, chemotherepy, heart surgery, etc., often solve accute problems, but on closer examination have little to no effect on longer term morbidity rates.

      And unless you are hypertensive; neither does avoiding salt.

      And remember; everyone born more than 125 years ago is already dead. You are going to join them. Get used to the idea. It might help you live.

      KFG

    5. Re:Sodium is still bad news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting
      Aspirin

      Just thought I'd point out how amazing the stuff is... It wasn't until my first Chemistry class back in high school, when we had a section devoted to Aspirin and all the amazing stuff it does... Anti-fever, anti-inflammatory, slows the formation of blood clots... and gets rid of aches and pains to boot. When you consider a lot of people that die from common diseases, like the flu for example, are often killed not by the bug itself, but by their own immune system's volatile reaction to it, the benefits of aspirin become pretty clear, and no wonder it's on short your list of life-savers.

    6. Re:Sodium is still bad news by kfg · · Score: 2, Informative

      . . .no wonder it's on short your list of life-savers.

      And it wasn't first on the list by accident. Familiarity breeds contempt, but the stuff is the wonder drug. We should have shrines to the "lowly" White Willow/Meadowsweet, but, well, familiarity breeds contempt.

      KFG

    7. Re:Sodium is still bad news by Spazntwich · · Score: 1

      Look, I didn't throw that little tidbit about deaths in there so you could latch on to it and mount a full on straw man attack.

      Sodium has been consistently clinically demonstrated to not have an extremely significant effect on blood pressure in the majority of the population, and even in those it does, cutting it produces only a temporary and mild drop.

      Sodium is not the bogeyman. It will greatly benefit anyone with high blood pressure to lose some weight and examine the entirety of their diet for other excesses and deficiencies before automatically blaming sodium for high blood pressure.

      Sodium is neither good nor bad news. It's one more substance vital to our lives that the panicky idiots in the media have demonized such that everyone out there who thinks he/she knows anything about nurtition will endlessly rip on it.

    8. Re:Sodium is still bad news by Spazntwich · · Score: 1

      I got owned by not previewing. Here's the other article I meant to link in there.

      http://www.cochrane.org/reviews/en/ab004022.html

    9. Re:Sodium is still bad news by ArieKremen · · Score: 2, Informative

      I remember reading somewhere, some long time ago, that "experts" were concerned high speed travel and acceleration (~10-15mph) would have on the human body, and devised safety suits.

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    10. Re:Sodium is still bad news by SavvyPlayer · · Score: 1
      With a bit of practice you can fall asleep at the reins and you will end up . . .home.
      ?
    11. Re:Sodium is still bad news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm one of those weird people where aspirin has absolutely no effect. It's genetic -- my father's the same. Pez candy has more effect on me.

    12. Re:Sodium is still bad news by kfg · · Score: 2, Informative

      A horse is of rather low intelligence, but it is at least real intelligence. It knows its own way home and has a certain desire to get there (that's where the oats are) so long as there isn't where it already is (see cats and doors/other side of). It can do this without plunging into a tree and bursting into flames or nothin'.

      Your job is to not fall off. At mosey pace this actually isn't all that hard and the horse may never even realize you've gone to sleep.

      If you're only used to sleeping at home in bed it might surprise you how much muscular control your brain can exert automatically while you sleep, but think about it, you learned not to pee your bed, didn't you?

      Ummmmmm, didn't you?

      There are many caveats, of course. For instance I really mean the horse's home, so there's the Rent-A-Nag problem, and home may not be where you were intending to end up, and the horse is going to take its own sweet time getting there, but it's the principle that's the important thing.

      KFG

    13. Re:Sodium is still bad news by Liberal+Mafia · · Score: 1

      Your horse may well know the way home already, from constant repetition. It also is (usually) too smart to slam into a tree or jump off a cliff, if it's not spooked.

  16. Good bye sweet prince. by faridx82 · · Score: 0

    sob sob! rest in peace ramen king...sluurpp oww that was good...sluurp..(cry in the background)

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  17. In Rememberance... by LEX+LETHAL · · Score: 1

    *Pours out a cup of Cheddar Noodles*

    We're gonna miss you big guy.

  18. Ramen. by icefaerie · · Score: 5, Funny

    Allow me to say, Ando was truly touched by His Noodly Appendage. We have lost a great man. Ramen.

  19. Oh no. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No words come close.

    Just :(

  20. Ramen? by dohzer · · Score: 0

    Oh.... Ramen == Noodles.
    I see.

  21. Momofuku Ando by doomy · · Score: 2, Funny

    Proof that a great name would always work in captalism.

    RIP. Momofuku Ando.

    PS: Your noodle are in my stomach.

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  22. damn now I'm hungry by okster · · Score: 1

    and I have no instant noodles :(

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    1. Re:damn now I'm hungry by Mr+Jazzizle · · Score: 2, Funny

      and I have no instant noodles :( Turn in your geek-card. Now.
  23. Conversely by Dunbal · · Score: 1

    If not for this great man, many a poor college student and programmer would have starved^H^H^H^H^H^H^H learned to cook over the years.

          There, corrected it! ;)

          So long, Ramen guy. The noodles just won't be the same without you.

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    1. Re:Conversely by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      Not really. I was fortunate that I learned to cook before I went to university, but a lot of my contemporaries live on pasta and a stir-in sauce. Instant Ramen haven't taken off here in the UK (we have pot noodles, but the less said about them the better), so I guess that's the cultural equivalent. In my first year as an undergrad, I lived with a Nepalese guy who had been brought up in a culture where women did the cooking and men weren't allowed in the kitchen; he managed to destroy a saucepan cooking rice in his first few weeks. I taught him a few things, and he spent most of that year living off home-made scone-based pizzas (one of my favourite low-budget and low-effort foods; you just need milk, self raising flower, tomato, cheese and leftovers). For my parents' generation, the student staple was pasta with butter and cheese, and a piece of fruit to avoid scurvy.

      I think it's safe to say that people can avoid learning to cook with or without the aid of instant ramen.

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    2. Re:Conversely by tomjen · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Today you can just add some Ketchup to your pasta, and you will have no problem with scurvy.

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    3. Re:Conversely by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      nah, we would've been forced to brave the elements to the nearest Del Taco

    4. Re:Conversely by Reziac · · Score: 1

      Some of us instead learned to cook ramen, in weird and wonderful ways :)

      My two favourites:

      Put 2 cups COLD water into quart glass bowl (has to start off cold or the eggs will fall apart). Add 2 or 3 eggs. Punch a small hole in each yolk (so it won't explode). Smash up a packet of ramen, dump it into the water. Microwave for 3 to 4 minutes, until eggs are set. Drain excess liquid. Add random quantity of grated cheese and a SMALL amount of the flavour packet. Stir, let cheese melt, enjoy. (Note: eggs are optional here, but make it a lot more substantial meal.)

      Smash ramen inside packet. Open one end. Rinse ramen in warm water and dump out the excess, using the packaging as a funnel. The idea here is to cut the crunch down a little bit without making it soggy, get the condiments to stick to the noodles, and avoid having to use a colander :) Dump rinsed ramen into bowl. Add random amount of finely chopped meat (optional; bacon or turkey work well). Add 3 tablespoons of grated parmesan cheese. Sprinkle liberally with lemon pepper and Tone's "Salmon and Seafood seasoning". Add a VERY LIGHT sprinkling of the flavour packet. Mix well. Makes a satisfying breakfast that will stick by you all day long.

      These both take longer to describe than to prepare. :)

      Oh, did I mention that I'm writing the quintessential geek cookbook? It's entitled "Why No One Eats At My House".

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    5. Re:Conversely by Breakfast+Pants · · Score: 1

      No good; if it is American ketchup, you'll have to watch out for diabetes.

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    6. Re:Conversely by zippthorne · · Score: 1

      In the UK do the student domiciles typically include a fairly complete kitchen (-ette)? That might explain the cultural difference. Many of the dorms in US colleges and universities have no kitchen facilities whatsoever, or at the most a wholly inadequate shared "kitchen" of two stoves on the first floor of a building designed to house several hundred students.

      They often have a small microwave & child size refrigerator, which is great for frozen dinners and ramen, but is insufficient for anything more complicated than that. (What's that you say.. use a buffet range? Only if you have some kind of trick for converting your bed into counter top space...)

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    7. Re:Conversely by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1
      It varies. At my university, if you were in university accommodation (which most people were for the first year, after which they went elsewhere, some returning for their final year), you were offered a choice between self-catering or catered accommodation. The self-catered part was a village of houses split into flats for 4-7 people who all shared a kitchen. It had a reasonable amount of space and an oven / grill and hobs. No microwave (or toaster), but a lot of people got their own. The catered accommodation was on-campus, and you were expected to eat in the canteen (meals were included in the price, and you got a card which you could 'pay' for them with at meal times). In this case, you would be in a room on a floor with 20 other people all sharing a kitchen about the same size as the ones in the self-catering accommodation (possibly with just hobs, no oven / grill).

      After the first year, once you've had a chance to make some friends who you might want to live with, almost everyone moves out into private accommodation, typically houses or flats rented by 2-7 people, with 3-4 being normal. These will all have kitchens, although they may not be the most spacious.

      I don't believe the situation is too different in the USA; I dated a girl who was at CMU for a bit, and her kitchen, which she shared with one other person was not much smaller than mine. The biggest difference seemed to be that sharing a bedroom was normal, while in the UK is is very unusual.

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  24. The real ones... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Although the instant ones are comfortable to cook:

    Nothing is better than real fresh handmade ramen in a chinese restaurant around the corner in China. It's just awesome!

    So for those who never tried, get to the next Chinatown near you and try them.

    mmmmh.

  25. 10 per package from places like Costco... by Mad-Bassist · · Score: 1

    ...although I remember paying a quarter for a box of the ol' Kraft mac and cheese.

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  26. Top Ramen Spinach Salad Supreme by All_One_Mind · · Score: 3, Informative

    A delicious blend of flavors will keep this super salad on the top of your list!

    Cook noodles according to package directions, but do not add flavor packets. Drain and cool. Cut noodles up slightly. Combine with other salad ingredients in a large bowl. In a small bowl, mix flavor packets, garlic and lemon juice and let stand at least 15 minutes. Add oil and mayonnaise and whisk until smooth. Pour dressing over salad and toss until thoroughly mixed. Garnish with red pepper rings and small grape clusters if desired. Quick and delicious!

    Ingredients:

            * 2 packages Chicken Flavor Top Ramen
            * 8 cups spinach leaves, torn
            * 1-1/2 cups turkey or chicken, cooked and diced
            * 1 cup red or green grapes, halved
            * 1 cup red pepper, slivered
            * 1/2 cup cashews, chopped
            * 1/2 cup gorgonzola or blue cheese, crumbled

    Dressing:

            * 2 Flavor packets from Chicken Flavor Top Ramen
            * 4 cloves garlic, minced
            * Juice from 1 small lemon
            * 1/3 cup olive oil
            * 1/4 cup light mayonnaise

    Serves 2

  27. Memoriam in the PHD comic by Hemi+Rodner · · Score: 1

    Today's PHD comic pays a tribute to Ando.

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  28. PhD Comics by stigin · · Score: 1

    There is a nice tribute at Piled Higher & Deeper:
    http://www.phdcomics.com/comics/archive.php?comici d=807

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  29. Tasteless joke by noidentity · · Score: 0

    OK, I'll rot in (Slashdot) hell for this, but whatever... add seasoning if desired.

    Did he die instantly too?

  30. Secrets of Instant Ramen by shanen · · Score: 2, Interesting

    No, really, he did sponsor the publication of a book called (using Romaji) Insutanto Ra-men No Himitsu, or the Secrets of Instant Ramen. I read it back in 1998. It was pretty clear that the company had helped sponsor it, though it was published as part of a very popular series of children's books. The 'secrets' series are educational manga (comic books) for kids, and include such classics as the Secrets of Bread (the food) and the Secrets of Fish (the animals) and the Secrets of Earthquakes. The Secrets of Instant Ramen was actually a pretty good one, though it was a bit too slanted in featuring Ando-san's life story so prominently. It really was a moving struggle for him to invent the first instant ramen, and there were many battles after that...

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  31. Mr. Ando reportedly ate tons of the stuff by antifoidulus · · Score: 4, Funny

    and yet lived to be 96 years old. Maybe there is hope for me yet :P

    1. Re:Mr. Ando reportedly ate tons of the stuff by SeaFox · · Score: 1

      Yes, but he also died a few days after eating Instant Ramen with workers at a Nissin plant.

  32. Hackers LOoooove Noodles. by the_REAL_sam · · Score: 1
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  33. dohzer? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh.... dozher == dumbass.
    I see.

  34. Honoring him by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 4, Funny

    I believe we should each observe three minutes of silence in memory of him. Some of you may even have a timer for that.

    Chris Mattern

  35. Chili Noodles by zoid.com · · Score: 1

    Cook noodles but don't add the flavor. Drain and warm noodles with canned chili (Hormel). Mmmm..Mmmm..Mmmm

    1. Re:Chili Noodles by tenton · · Score: 1

      Cook noodles but don't add the flavor. Drain and warm noodles with canned chili (Hormel). Mmmm..Mmmm..Mmmm

      Ah, I figured I wasn't the only one to do this. You can use other canned foods as well; chicken soup is (not surprisingly) a good choice as well. Good change of taste/pace.

  36. Non-Cup-O-Noodles Better by LeftNose · · Score: 1

    Personally, I much prefer the Ramen that comes in the bag instead of the styrofoam cup. For whatever reason, it tastes better; there are more noodles; and it's cheaper. Also, unless you dump out your Cup-O-Noodles--defeating the purpose of the styrofoam--it's much easier to customize the bagged noodles.

  37. I don't think Genghis would'a done it... by mtec · · Score: 2, Funny

    First, you would have gotten a call from one of his 'people'. Then after many forms and interviews with more lower mid-level 'managers', and lots and lots of waiting in tiny little rooms you might catch a glimpse of Khan but after they were finished, he wouldn't even ever know your name. And God help you if you get trapped in an elevator with him afterwards...

    wait. That's 'trying to get on at Apple.'

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  38. The Untold Story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As I have been told:

    His product was a flop and he was nearing bankruptcy until a military college siege in Japan led by a messianic military rightist-poet in the seventies that went on for weeks (months?). Seeing all the cops standing for days behind barricades of snow (that winter was particularly harsh), he sent packets of noodles to them for free and the nation (following the drama closely day after day on grainy B&W TV) witnessed all the cops able to eat something warming and satisfying in the snowy environs. It triggered a sharing urge probably linked to wartime sentiments for "the man in the field" and the shops were emptied of his product. It tipped the scales for his business and he never looked back...

    Daro
    DoTheStrand at gmail.com

  39. How Odd by nurb432 · · Score: 1

    Havent eaten any since college days ( a good 15+ years now ) but for some odd reason was in the mood about 11 pm on the 5th and went out to get some from the local grocery. ( and of course prepared the same way as i did back then.. with burger, their seasoning and just enough pasta sauce to make it wet )

    How odd....

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  40. Smack by proxy318 · · Score: 1

    When I was in college, one of the grocery stores sold "Smack" brand instant noodles, which were even cheaper than the regular ramen. This of course lead to all sorts of jokes along the lines of "I'm gonna go get me some smack!", etc.

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  41. Make Ramen, Not War by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 1, Troll
    after WWII, hoping to reduce the amount of poor nourishment for soldiers in the field.


    Funny, no mention of that "peace dividend from a war product" in the actual story, which instead cites compassion for starving Japanese on soup lines after atomic war devastated their country. But if instant ramen was indeed either inspired or funded justified by feeding soldiers better, then it's proof that outlawing war makes a nation's economy more competitive where it counts: feeding people, and making money. And thereby making peace, which even the biggest liar warmongers will claim is the reason to make war. Ramen works better. An army travels on its stomach, but for what? Everyone travels on our stomachs, and a fast hot meal is the way to our hearts.
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    1. Re:Make Ramen, Not War by jedrek · · Score: 1

      Funny, no mention of that "peace dividend from a war product" in the actual story, which instead cites compassion for starving Japanese on soup lines after atomic war devastated their country

      Two atomic bombs were dropped on two cities in Japan. Atomic war didn't devastate the Japanese economy, waging and losing a conventional war did.

    2. Re:Make Ramen, Not War by ScrewMaster · · Score: 1

      And most of the damage to their cities was from non-nuclear sources, by far. People tend to forget about the fire-raids that devastated a lot more of Japan's cityscape than two comparatively tiny nukes.

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    3. Re:Make Ramen, Not War by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 0

      The war against Japan was an atomic war. Not exclusively atomic, but it was an atomic war. Like WWI was a trench war. No sense denying it.

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    4. Re:Make Ramen, Not War by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bollocks.

    5. Re:Make Ramen, Not War by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 1

      Anonymous denial Coward likes testicles in his soup. Imagine what they'd eat if they actually had to live through an atomic war, instead of squatting their cushy Slashdot posting pit.

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    6. Re:Make Ramen, Not War by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 1

      Moderation 0
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      Mention "liar warmongers", even referring to WWII, and the trollMods dispatch their brownshirts to gestapo your posts. I guess when law is outlawed, then only outlaws make war. And outlaw wannabes make war on Slashdot posts. War in which the first casualty is the truth.

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  42. Nobody Asks Why? by paniq · · Score: 1

    Haha, and nobody asks why this is on Slashdot, I love you guys :D

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  43. WHAT!?!?!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Still no comment from ILuvRamen?

  44. Ramen and MSG by TheFlannelAvenger · · Score: 1

    I love ramen noodles, easy to prepare and very tasty. Unfortunately, I'm one of those folks who get the blinding headache followed by Exorcist style projectile vomiting when eating MSG. I've never found a ramen noodle package that didn't have a lot of MSG in it. Any others out there have the problem with the MSG? And are there non MSG loaded brands out there, I miss the noodles.

    1. Re:Ramen and MSG by DuroSoft · · Score: 2, Insightful

      not only that, cup ramen has 920mg of sodium. 200mg is considered too much, but 920mg is more then 50% of your daily maximum intake. If you have even two of those a day, you are giving yourself way too much sodium.... waaaaay too much sodium... but heck, it tastes good! its just like those Stouffer's microwaveable dinners.They have some ridiculous amount of sodium. My aunt started having one of those to eat every day and died within two years. That stuff kills, man. Still tastes good though :)

    2. Re:Ramen and MSG by tonymus · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This may defeat of purpose of cheap Raman noodles, but Wyler may still sell Instant Bouillion and Seasoning Shakers. The old jar I have in my cupboard indicates NO MSG added. Of course, it does contain partially hydrogenated soybean and cottonseed oil, so using it instead of the included packets doesn't make you take a detour on Heart Attack Highway...

    3. Re:Ramen and MSG by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know some people who react to MSG like you do, most in a lesser degree (read: nauseous but not vomitting). I react to a high dose of MSG by feeling thirsty even after drinking a glass of water while a low amount does nothing.

      Campbell used to have an instant noodle product that was air-dryed (almost like some Italian pasta) and the seasonning packet contained less MSG than usual. It was pretty good, but it never caught on. I don't know any brand that doesn't use MSG since they all rely on MSG to enhance the flavor. The only way to avoid MSG is to not use the seasonning packet. Use some beef/chicken broth, green onion, soy sauce and pepper instead. If you wanna be fancy, you could add miso, shitake mushroom, ginger powder or red pepper flakes. However, it's no longer "instant" noodle.

    4. Re:Ramen and MSG by Arkhan · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I have exactly that problem, to the extent of needing to avoid foods that contain natural MSG (soy, algae) or produce small amounts of MSG as a processing byproduct (high-fructose corn syrup, autolyzed/hydrolyzed yeast extract, any hydrogenated oil, etc).

      It's funny, in light of the anti-organics rant nearby, but the only ramen I have ever found that I can eat was at Whole Foods. They sell a brand of organic instant ramen (yes, really) that has no explicit MSG in any of it, and even has a few flavors with no soy as well. (The garlic & pepper flavor is very good, as is the ginger lemongrass.)

      I can't recall the brand name, as I'm out right now, but will get more soon and try to follow up with it here.

    5. Re:Ramen and MSG by FunkSoulBrother · · Score: 1

      How is 200mg considered "too much" (and by whom)? If the recommended intake is somewhere in the range of 1600-2400mg/day?

  45. He's using a FORK in that comic! by taiwanjohn · · Score: 1

    I don't think I've ever seen a native Asian eat ramen with a fork. They always use chopsticks.

    It's easier with chopsticks...

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  46. One bad Momofuku by Junior+J.+Junior+III · · Score: 1

    That Ando is one bad Momo--Shut yo mouth!

    Now open it and put some ramen in there!

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  47. RIP by teslatug · · Score: 1

    Ramen? Who will speak his death?

  48. Oh yeah? by Deadstick · · Score: 1
    If not for this great man, many a poor college student and programmer would have starved over the years.

    No way. We had Hormel Potted Meat Food Product. Three times the fat of Underwood Deviled Ham at one-third the price.

    rj

  49. Cool Little Ramen Restaurant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    There's a cool little ramen restaurant in NYC, down in the village (10th street and 1st Ave, if memory serves) named "Momofuku's." It's a pretty good spot. I ate there a few times last year. The wait time is ridiculously long and it's always crowded, but it's worth it. They have some damn good ramen.

  50. 96 years old huh? by samsinfection · · Score: 1

    I guess he didn't eat much Ramen...either that or cardboard and chicken bullion is much healthier than I've been led to believe.

  51. Itadakimasu by jlebrech · · Score: 0

    Naruto sure will be missing you.

  52. I live in LA... by MsGeek · · Score: 1

    ...no need for the dried-and-fried crap.

    For those who want to experiment with "real" ramen, look for "Yakisoba Noodles" in the deli case if you can't find the fresh ramen kits that some Japanese companies make. As far as broth goes, if you want it easy, get a can of Swanson's Chicken Broth and use that. If you want to get a more authentic effect, make some bone-in pork roast or roast a chicken, then make broth with the bones. You cook the noodles at the last minute, in plain boiling water for about 30 seconds before draining and adding to the bowl. Pour the broth over that. Add cooked veggies and your choice of meat. Oishii oishii.

    If you are lucky enough to live in LA, here's a few good places to get a prepared bowl of Ramen:
    Koraku, Little Tokyo and Sherman Oaks;
    Ramen Nippon, Reseda;
    Kyushu Ramen, Van Nuys;
    Tampopo at Mitsuwa Market, Mar Vista

    Koraku in Sherman Oaks just opened up. The Little Tokyo branch is an institution that's been up and running since the '50s. The new place looks like a little out-of-the-way Showa-era restaurant in Japan, complete with replicas of Occupation-era advertising signs. Koraku in Little Tokyo is open until 3am, and was a place to go to after seeing bands at Al's Bar back in the day or The Smell or The Cocaine Club now.

    Ramen Nippon in Reseda is a favorite of Japanese students at Cal State Northridge. Good healthy Japanese food.

    Kyushu Ramen is open late and not only has good noodles but good Japanese "Family Restaurant" kind of food. They also have a separate menu in Japanese which has some good authentic stuff you don't find at most LA Japanese restaurants. They're happy to explain if you don't read Japanese.

    Tampopo is a branch of a South Bay restaurant. The movie "Tampopo" is about the quest for the perfect bowl of Ramen, and similarly Tampopo the restaurant is about serious Ramen. The little satellite stand in the West LA Mitsuwa is almost as good as the South Bay version.

    One important note about the Ramen you get at these restaurants: they are served in HUGE bowls. Most Gaijin can share a bowl happily. However, somehow or another Japanese folks manage to polish off the entire thing by themselves. Including petite little female Japanese college students from CSUN.

    Make the fresh kind for yourself and you will never go back to Cup Noodles.

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    1. Re:I live in LA... by moogleii · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Just for the sake of consistency...if "gaijin" is acceptable, is "jap" acceptable? Both can be condescending depending on who you ask (and where you ask I suppose). Otherwise, the preferred term is "gaikokujin."

      On a less serious note, great info. I'm a local around there and will have to hit those places up.

    2. Re:I live in LA... by nomadic · · Score: 4, Funny

      If you are lucky enough to live in LA

      That's a novel definition of the word "lucky"...

    3. Re:I live in LA... by SageMusings · · Score: 1

      I live in Orange County. I concur; living in or near L.A. is a mixed bag at best.

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  53. It's Good to Know his Name by Bucky340 · · Score: 1

    R.I.P Ando-- I think all of us have some great Ramen stories, and creative recipes! The only thing I've always wanted them to do was to add more desperately needed nutrients to the flavor packet. I'd pay another ten cents to know that my vitamin and mineral requirements were being met. Oh, also, now that I've been married for several years, and we both have decent jobs, I've been out of the Ramen scene for a few years. What are the best brands now? New flavors? Damn, I'm out of touch!

  54. Inspiration for "old farts"... by CptNerd · · Score: 1

    Like Harland Sanders' story, Ando's is inspiring for those of us who are "past their prime" in this youth-oriented culture. I'm looking around for some kind of post-computer geek career that doesn't involve management (especially not managing software development), but to pay the bills I have to keep doing what I've grown to hate. It doesn't help to be thought of as too old (read: too expensive) to have "kept up" with the "l33t" technology. Ando and others prove that age doesn't have to affect peoples' careers or lifestyles except for those that are very physical in nature. At 48 myself I've picked up my brushes and started painting again after 20 years (see my website), and thinking of at least supplementing my income by selling prints. If the "long tail" theory of marketing is correct, somebody out there will buy a couple. I have a 40-something friend who bought a farm, and though she's not making anything from it now, she has the potential to do so and get out of the programming field altogether.

    So, buck up fellow creaking-jointed, progressive-bifocal-wearing, relaxed-fit-docker's-wearing folks, it's never too late to start again!

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    1. Re:Inspiration for "old farts"... by macshit · · Score: 1

      she has the potential to do so and get out of the programming field altogether.

      So, buck up fellow creaking-jointed, progressive-bifocal-wearing, relaxed-fit-docker's-wearing folks, it's never too late to start again!


      I dunno, I'm in the same age bracket as you, and even after 25 years in the field, I absolutely love programming -- the amount of fascinating stuff there is to do with the same core skillset is just amazing, given how computers play an increasingly large part in a vast number of fields. I'm an old school hacker I guess: I view the field as much or more as a craft (in the fine woodworking sense) than as an engineering field, and get a lot of satisfaction from an elegant solution to a problem.

      Of course it is a huge field, and there are certainly a lot of boring programming jobs ... avoid those ones. :-)

      I've changed jobs or projects every year or two during that time though, and would probably be going crazy otherwise, but even within one company (I've been at my current position for 9 years) there are constantly cool new things to do -- I've done large amounts of kernel hacking, low level embedded work, done gcc ports and from-scratch compilers, and I constantly see new stuff I'd like to do if I get the chance.

      I've been involved in the Free Software community for a long time, and I think this helps a lot: it gives you a relaxed global community to serve as a counterweight to the very local pressures of a job, and a very easy way to tentatively explore new fields that might be interesting. With the increasing prominence of FOSS in industry, this relationship is becoming more and more natural. [Of course, the rise of the internet is probably the technical basis for the increasingly global opportunities offered by FOSS, but I don't think that's enough -- FOSS's emphasis on free exchange of ideas and working towards common goals is critically important.]

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    2. Re:Inspiration for "old farts"... by CptNerd · · Score: 1

                So, buck up fellow creaking-jointed, progressive-bifocal-wearing, relaxed-fit-docker's-wearing folks, it's never too late to start again!

      I dunno, I'm in the same age bracket as you, and even after 25 years in the field, I absolutely love programming -- the amount of fascinating stuff there is to do with the same core skillset is just amazing, given how computers play an increasingly large part in a vast number of fields. I'm an old school hacker I guess: I view the field as much or more as a craft (in the fine woodworking sense) than as an engineering field, and get a lot of satisfaction from an elegant solution to a problem.

      My problems with the software field are many, the biggest one being the overall lack of discipline in development, and the lack of concern about this lack of discipline among people in charge of software development. I've worked on probably 15 to 18 completely different projects over the 22 years I've been a professional, from satellite data analysis to artificial intelligence, to data conversion, telecom equipment provisioning, and mortgage-backed securities systems. On only four projects have there been anything resembling requirements specifications, and only two where simple error checking was even considered during the design, rather than an add-on once the customer complained of a crash. I learned early on to avoid the "elegant" solutions that were as fragile as Faberge eggs and learned to make "crude" designs that kept working when the world failed to cooperate with design assumptions. Unfortunately, the industry apparently prefers crude, fragile, easily-shipped solutions that can be hacked into shape over time and lots of unpaid overtime. Even "discoveries" lately seem to be mere rehashes of ideas and systems I worked on decades ago. Having created my own graphics object toolkit in X Window 10r4, I can't really get excited over something like Qt or KDE or gtk+ or Swing or... Nor, after having coded a big chunk of an AI system in Smalltalk in '87, can I get excited about some language rediscovering the Model-View-Controller paradigm. I definitely can't get excited about any programming challenge that requires me to spend 50-80 hours per week that I spent when I first started, especially not on salary, and most especially not when the reason is because of management's refusal to pay for some modicum of discipline in designing the system.

      Basically, for me, "seen it, done it, done too much of it" is the main reason I'm burned out of the profession. I get into the same "flow" state when I'm painting that I once got into while designing and coding and debugging. I like the outcome better, too.
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  55. Ramne Haiku anyone? by Bucky340 · · Score: 1

    Instant Ramen gives My body a new found strength. Payday's coming soon.

  56. Respect Shall Be Givin by k1mus4b1 · · Score: 1

    Many comments for this article relate to how 'international' ramen/instant noodles really are, or, how sodium is either good or bad for you. The true point should not be arguing and bickering, but rather Respect and Gratitude towards the Ramen King for providing the world with a very very affordable, and quite delicious treat. When I was younger I remember days when I would eat up to three packs a day for weeks at a time, of course now that is quite rare. However, one pack doesn't fill me up by it self, so I always put two in one bowl, but nonetheless, dieting has provented me from enjoying these tasty delights as often as I used too.
    Many a programming session have been joined with an ice cold mountain dew and a hot steaming bowl of Instant Ramen Noodles (flavor depends on mood). I for one am grateful to the Ramen King, for without his invention, I would be stuck eating something made out of processed chicken and pork livers. And nobody wants that.
    Thank You Ramen King, for now I shall honor your existance by eating a bowl in your memory, as should we all.

  57. 96 years old? by HungWeiLo · · Score: 1

    Obviously, he did not eat too much of his own inventions. :-)

    But seriously, instant noodles nowadays are pretty bad (nutritionally - lots of "50% saturated fat, etc." types out there). Even after draining it through hot water and using your own soup and flavoring, you're still dealing with fried noodles for the most part.

    My favorite is a vegetarian ramen from Taiwan. I haven't had a better one. Whatever chemicals they put in there to make the noodles taste good and have a good texture, they've got it all correct. Is there a food critic-type site that catalogs all brands and flavors of Ramen?

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    1. Re:96 years old? by Reziac · · Score: 1

      I've noticed even the commercial grocery ramens are not all alike. I've come to prefer Maruchan, as the noodles seem more like "food" and the packet has more flavour and less salt.

      Also, it's $4.88 for a 48-pack at Costco or Sam's Club :) Where else can you get a quick-and-dirty meal for 10 cents??

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    2. Re:96 years old? by RobertLTux · · Score: 1

      the local Food Lion has either marchun or the other brand for $0.09 a brick with VIC card almost costantly

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    3. Re:96 years old? by Reziac · · Score: 1

      Even better :) Not only that, but it's one of the few foods that has gone down in price over the past 3 decades, but hasn't gone downhill in quality. Ramen now tastes much as it did when I was in college.

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  58. Think about this story when you eat cup noodles... by HungWeiLo · · Score: 2, Interesting

    When I was in high school, a Japanese exchange student told me that many Japanese teens heat up Nissin Cup Noodles, let it sit in cold water for a couple minutes, then drill a hole at the bottom of the cup and use it as a poor man's FleshLight (not worksafe). Quoth him, "I feels like real thing, man."

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  59. Well preserved by BoberFett · · Score: 1

    If he is buried with half the salt that a cup of instant ramen has, the body will be well preserved for centuries.

  60. on a somber note... by Sfing_ter · · Score: 1

    On a somber note, he was laid to rest in a Styrofoam®, container vacuum sealed with a foil cover.

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  61. NOOO!! by ILuvRamen · · Score: 1

    (pssst...look at my name and sig which have been the same for months)
    NNNNOOOOOOOOO!!!
    I think I may never get over this :'(

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    1. Re:NOOO!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My condolences, man...

  62. Noooo!!! by Tragek · · Score: 1

    Thousands upon thousands of college students cry out as the man who allowed them to eat while pursuing their dreams passed on.

  63. Mr. Ando was Chinese. by eabu · · Score: 1

    Correction on #2. Mr. Ando was Chinese, born in Taiwan, and moved to Japan.

  64. My personal tribute by jbrader · · Score: 1

    Classes start up at my university tomorrow. In memory of this fine man I shall observe a moment of silence every day at lunch this week while I enjoy my noodly meal.

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  65. Science? by neurostar · · Score: 1

    Why is this under "science" ?

  66. Noodle nerd here... by SvnLyrBrto · · Score: 1

    > For those who want to experiment with "real" ramen, look for "Yakisoba Noodles"
    > in the deli case if you can't find the fresh ramen kits that some Japanese companies make.

    Soba noodles are an indigenous Japanese dish made from buckwheat. Ramen noodles are a dish they copied from the Chinese, and are made from regular wheat. They are quite different kinds of noodles, and the names are not equivalent or interchangeable. Actually, I like soba better than ramen. It's a bit harder to cook properly, though, and not quite as cheap.

    "Yaki", is Japanese for grilled... hence its inclusion in the names of takoyaki (grilled, baked, or fried octopus balls), yakitori (grilled chicken on a stick), and teppanyaki (meat and vegetables grilled at your dining table).

    cya,
    john

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    1. Re:Noodle nerd here... by fbjon · · Score: 1
      If you're really a noodle nerd, you need to go to the museum in Ikeda mentioned in TFA. There's an exhibition, and you also get to make your own packet of instant chicken ramen there. :)

      For the interested living in Osaka: take Hankyu Takarazuka line to Ikeda, and follow the map. No reservation needed for the ramen kitchen. On the way back to the station, there's a nice ramen place on the left in a small alley on the same street, called Momofuku-tei.

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    2. Re:Noodle nerd here... by MsGeek · · Score: 2, Informative

      "Yakisoba Noodles" are not Soba noodles. They are actually Chinese noodles. The Japanese dish Yakisoba is sort of their answer to Chow Mein. Soba would not survive being stir-fried after boiling. Believe me, I know my Japanese food.

      "Yakisoba (, Yakisoba?), literally "fried noodles", is a dish often sold at festivals in Japan. It originates from Chinese chow mein, but has been integrated into Japanese cuisine like ramen. Even though soba is part of the word, yakisoba noodles are not made from buckwheat, but are similar to ramen noodles and made from wheat flour."

      For further enlightenment:
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakisoba

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    3. Re:Noodle nerd here... by SvnLyrBrto · · Score: 1

      My application to JET is at Japan's US embassy, and I've just received my SASE, verifying that they have it, everything's in order, and they're considering advancing me to the interview phase,

      Osaka prefecture is my #2 choice in placement, assuming they give any weight at all to my preferences, Though I've been led to believe that the Ramen museum in Yokohama is superior to the one in Osaka.

      cya,
      john

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    4. Re:Noodle nerd here... by fbjon · · Score: 1

      Well, the museum in Ikeda is dedicated to instant ramen, so it's a bit smaller for sure. The one in Yokohama is more about the real stuff, which I do prefer.

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  67. Ramen in Space Ad by cyclone96 · · Score: 1

    Actually filmed on the Space Station. Between this ad and the steaming cup in Times Square, I'm guessing that their ad budget is pretty hefty...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntg2D4vUil8&search= cup%20noodle%20noodles%20nissin%20CM%20commercial% 20japan

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  68. "Cup O' Noodles" versus"Cup Noodles" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm really surprised that the official name is now "Cup Noodles". I always used to call it "Cup O' Noodles" (I see from the company web site http://www.nissinfoods.com/his.htm) that they changed the name in 1993).

    I really prefer to call it "Cup O' Noodles"; has a nice ring to it. Anybody else agree?

  69. Re:Think about this story when you eat cup noodles by savorymedia · · Score: 1
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  70. Sorry.. by StikyPad · · Score: 1

    Cup 'o Noodles are over a dollar if I remember correctly. Any starving student worth his graphing calculator would buy 5-7 times the amount of noodles in plastic packaging. And remember -- every dollar saved on ramen is a dollar toward the keg fund.

  71. They wouldn't starve... by CrazyTalk · · Score: 1

    College students wouldn't starve - they would just eat more Kraft Dinner (Macaroni and Cheese) like I did in collge. Of course, usually I didn't spring for the name brand and went with the 19 cents a box generic.

  72. Ramon is free software by heroine · · Score: 1

    Can definitely vouch for Ramon noodles making free software possible.

  73. American "Ramen Eater" in Saudi Arabia by CyberSeth · · Score: 1

    LMAO So true :D

    BTW I'm an American, who lives in Saudi Arabia. The Ramen I eat is an Indonesian bran called "Indomie" and it's so popular here that that's it has replaced "Ramen" as the official name: "Hey anybody in the mood for some Indomie". At home I call it "Oodles o' Noodles" thanks to my American upbringing xD

    There used to be this Korean brand that came in red packaging and had black lettering. It would come every now and then; the supplies were erratic for some reason. I loved those the best; they gave bigger helpings, the noodles were bigger and flat and the sauce was red and spicy.

    I like to eat it any way possible. And I'm almost always introduced to a new way of eating it whenever I have it at a friend's house. Fried is nice, steam cooked and dry, mixed with assorted veggies and meats. I've returned to eating it as a soup because I haven't had it that way in so long :p Slice up some green onions, some fried egg and whatever left-over meat is in the fridge and it's all good.

    My favorite flavor is "fried noodle".

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  74. traditional or typical japanese by holywarrior21c · · Score: 0

    As typical asian father would do, installing one's son as a president of one's company has been like tradition or typical of asian society but nowadays becoming an evil practice for such large corporation to do. typical asian father...

  75. Sad by CommanderSpoon · · Score: 1

    I always take note when somebody that invented something cool dies. Instant ramen is one of the best foody inventions, and it's sad that the king of the fast and cheap, but still edible and tasty noodle is gone. 96 is a pretty good run, though. Everybody eat instant ramen! You'll live longer.

  76. yes, fifty cents a packet by perfessor+multigeek · · Score: 1
    Silly me, I forgot that I was posting to /., land of niggling disagreement.

    Now, first of all, I mostly don't buy ramen at all these days. My noodle fix of choice is some Wei Wei rice noodles with amchur (mango powder), a bit of tienjin dried cabbage, pickled ginger, an egg and or shredded meat, fresh scallions (I grow my own), maybe greens or sprouts, maybe peanut butter, a bit of soy sauce, smidgens of other seasonings, and some fresh lime juice. Comes out to about a buck a meal.

    My fifty cent estimate was in recognition of the great ramen king, Sapporo Ichiban (original flavor or miso flavor), which I have found to go for about fifty cents a pack in NYC, Portland, Toronto, Milwaukee, and half a dozen other cities.

    As for other varieties, yeah, sure Top Ramen is far less, but why bother? The south Asian versions are less but they're too friggin small for me. so yeah, you can pay less, but then you can also buy a CPU at Walmart but I suspect that most of you wouldn't.

    So let me just say that not only was my price estimate a good average (because many of the cup noodles are more) it was, if referring solely to packets, an implicit statement of my confidence in the good taste of /.ers.

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  77. Haha... by SvnLyrBrto · · Score: 1

    I have a stack of instant "Yakisoba" noodle trays sitting in my room, imported from Japan, the primary ingredient of which is listed as buckwheat, and taste very much like actual soba noodles to me.

    I will, of course, happily admit that maybe I missed some detail of Japanese cuisine that allows soba to refer, in some instances, to wheat noodles instead of buckwheat, just like yaki refers to fried or baked sometimes instead of grilled. Despite my efforts, it's not like it's an easy language to grasp all the nuances of, after all.

    I still maintain, however, that actual buckwheat soba noodles p0wn ramen noodles. Every time I have occasion to pop down to San Jose, Mitsuwa is near the top of my list of places to stop by, mostly for their bomb-ass soba noodle soups!

    (Not that I don't love ramen, udon, and even semolina noodles, but soba is the bomb!)

    cya,
    john

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    1. Re:Haha... by Dr.+Photo · · Score: 1

      In the same parking lot is "House of Tokushima", which makes the delicious "Niku-Iri" ramen.

      Down the street, before the intersection of Saratoga and Stevens Creek, there is Ramen Halu, which serves (among other things) a delicious regional ramen called (naturally!) Halu Ramen, which contains thicker noodles and a hearty pork broth. (Not everyone likes it, but I think it's delicious, and a great place to go when you're really hungry...)

  78. Weight Loss Solutions... by j3w · · Score: 1

    During a period of time in which I was pretty damn poor I ate pretty much nothing but ramen for a good couple months and loss almost 30 pounds...yay malnourishment :)

  79. Ramen and the environment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Unfortunately, not only has the incredible influx of ramen noodles to Mexico severely affected local food consumption, it has contributed greatly to general waste.

    Think of the millions of spent ramen packages.

  80. What would Card think? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Probably something like, "Better raman than varelse!" (Ha, Slashdot! Figure out that reference!)

  81. As a UK reader by tehcyder · · Score: 1

    Could I just ask what are Ramen noodles exactly? Are they like Pot Noodle?

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