Where I worked went through the same things and trouble is we keep hittng their ridulous schedules. Then the short schedules became the norm, and they kept pushing for even shorter schedules. Trouble is there is always assholes who will kill themselves at work and management knows it. The managers I worked with kept saying "if you don't like working a 100 hours a week, go somewhere else." I finally did.
Managers don't care the quality if the quality of the work starts to suck, all they know is hitting deadlines. But typically they will come back saying the project sucked and have to do it over. but its a new project so clock is restarted. Real funny, there is never enough time to something right the first time, but there is time to do it over.
Dell and HP save money buy puting Corel on. But when was the last time someone other than a lawyer used Word Perfect, and Quattro oh yuck. So when they need to learn Word and Excel because they need to know them to get a job in the real world they will have to by MS Office.
All benchmarks favor whoever requested they be written. So its a crap shoot, choose the one you want to believe in, then go do you own tests, Your own testing is the only tests that matter.
Even if what you said was true it would be terrible for Linux future. If Linux was only used for home or hobby use it won't survive. Linux needs businesses use for the R&D that a developer sitting at home can't do. Corporate support should also bring about more QA that Linux needs.
HP had an Unix solution I believe called OpenMail. They killed it off a year or so ago. That only leaves Sun's iPlanet, it does what Exchange does and more.
Why there is no open source solution is an interesting question. I think its because it doesn't interest them. Programmers who donate their time want to write code that is interesting to them. I guess writing a Exchange replacement doesn't turn them on like a kernel, compiler, graphics, or ???
People have been trying to find a use for pie menus for over a decade and still haven't. I first saw it tried back in the late 80's on a Mac. I saw it tried again in the early 90's on Windows. All it proved to be is a nice programming challenge. Now they popup again. The example using it in a game has kind of a lame cuteness factor, but that's it. Something for a graphic game.
I was involved in a product dispute like this and the way the lawyers explained it was the Clean Programmer vs. Dirty Programmer. If a programmer has seen the product in question and writes a similar program he is a Dirty Programmer. It can be in a different language if the programs are similar he copied the other program and violated copyright. Now if the programmer didn't ever see the program being copied and was working from descriptions being supplied he is a Clean programmer and no violation. Stupid, but there is no consistency in the laws.
In our case a competitor heard we were working on a program with some features similar to theirs. So to try and create the Dirty Programmer situation our competitor sent copies of their program to our developers trying to get them to look at it. Lucky for us the developers went to management and they went to legal department. Legal collected all the copies of the program and had a hell of a chat with our competitor.
Let see a survey of mainly European developers prefer free software versus paying higher prices for import software (and hardware.) Geez this has been an reality for decades. Being I used to be a Marketing slime I'll throw in this was always a problem selling U.S. software outside the U.S. because of import costs. Also higher hardware costs outside the U.S. means they tend to run older hardware so they need software with less system requirements. Even more an issue in South America. So is anyone surprised that the results show a free OS that has less system requirements appeals to them. I'm suprised they felt they needed to do a survey to figure it out.
Now they have good taste in editors vi rules! but poor taste in desktops. Gnome oh yuck, it is so five minutes ago.
Dell computers are basically white box computers using mainly Intel parts. That has been their design for years. So they are going to try and sell to their competition the little computer shops that have a bigger selection of parts. I don't think that is going to fly. Now if they are going to try and sell these things to consultants that want to add selling systems to their services maybe that will fly. Gateway tried something like this years ago. They sold their regular line of computers to consultants at a discount. I think will be another Dell idea to come and be gone a few months later.
TurboLinux failed because they never understood that typical distro customers are mainly desktop users. Desktop users want a GUI frilly multi-media, office suite stuffage. Turbo had some nice text based utilities, came fairly secure out of the box, and they spent a lot on server features. Their TurboCluster load balancer, then distributed application tools they did with IBM and other tools. They focused a lot on the corporate market that wasn't ready for them.
The don't like comparing Mhz or Ghz because they know they they can't compete. Mhz or Ghz are exmaple of performance of integer instructions which most the software the typical user runs is compromised of. These PPC and AMD whiners want to use their tests that focus on floating point and multi-media instructions, that they focus on. So that is as boogus and only looking at Mhz or Ghz alone.
Bottom line you have to look at what you're going to using the computer for. Do you need better floating point or multi-media instructions. Then look for benchmarks related to those areas. If typical user then look for benchmarks that focus on integer instructions and Mhz or Ghz.
Reality is for most users 1 Ghz is the point of diminishing return on CPU size. Unless a hard core gamer or running simulations CPU's over a gigahertz you're mainly just paying for bragging rights not additional performance. The bus speeds, memory, and IO devices are you bottleneck. The CPU is idling most the time.
Choice is what all of this should be about. I started a big Linux fan, but as the Linux community turned more into a religous movement mandating what to like and what to hate I started losing interest. Now for those and other reason I and a ~BSD fan. More important I live and work in the real world and there is no one correct solution. I use MS products when they make sense for the customer, and Sun or other Unix variants when they are the best choice.
Bottom line, freedom of choice is what is most important.
School is to teach you how to think, how to learn. How many people spend the rest of their life coding in the same language they coded in, in college. When I went to school pascal was the main teaching language, it's been ages since I wrote in pascal. But they taught me learn one language inside-out, then learning other languages will be simple and they were right. C# is a modern language representive of the current trend so not students learning inside-out will be prepared to work in any language in the real world.
It's just a fact of life, anyone who has managed a support department knows the cost per call understands what I saying. Supporting Unix is expensive, the training costs, the time per call, and so on. Windows sheer volume and ability to hire people off the streets to do support make it cheaper to support. Also companies like Dell only do install support, so they have to push customers off to other sources for useability questions. Again Windows sheer volume make it easier for the masses to find someone to help them. With Linux its much harder to find another person to help and they are foreced the internet for help and that take longer and it can be cruel to newbies. This leaves customer mad at Dell for putting something other than Windows on a system. So the extra expense of dealing with Microsoft in long run is better for Dell's bottom line and customer relations.
Money is the most powerful tool. Quit worrying about the lawmakers or hoping they will protect you. Money DOES make the world go 'round. Boycott products and urgue others to do the same. When revenues drop companies react. Even a Microsoft will flinch if you get people to boycott their products.
My answer is what took him so long to get around looking at the Win32 APIs. Hey dude there's a whole another world of undocumented API's to play with too. Windows has security holes, that is so five minutes ago. Show me an major OS that doesn't have security patches rolling out. Yes even OpenBSD has security patches. It's a fact of life when your code base of that large.
Isn't the idea behind Open Source is with "100's of thousands of developers" you can stay on top new technologies unlike commericial software with smaller development teams. No this isn't a troll message, I'm saying think before you open your mouth. You had a positive message in support was now available, but you dimisnished it with your, only took a year longer we're #2 rubbish.
There was never a shortage of US tech people. The shortage was tech people willing to work cheap. So corporations whined and being the goverment always bends over backward in the name of corporate profits started handing out the visa's. Add to that companies moving jobs outside to country to continue getting cheap help. Ireland and India are both places with growing tech industries from run away American companies like Sun.
Athlon got me to switch to AMD for awhile, a short while. They never worked out their heat concerns. Now with 64-bit Intel is evolving past its mistakes and moving forward. AMD with it 64-bit is try to drag those same mistake into the future. At some point you have to leave the past to the past. CP/M. DOS, OS/2, Windows. or better yet 8080, Z80, 6502, 68000, 8088, 286...
Good SysAdmin got to sleep a year ago because they were up on their IIS patches. Bad SysAdmins aren't exclusive to Windows, they work on all platforms regretfully.
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Where I worked went through the same things and trouble is we keep hittng their ridulous schedules. Then the short schedules became the norm, and they kept pushing for even shorter schedules. Trouble is there is always assholes who will kill themselves at work and management knows it. The managers I worked with kept saying "if you don't like working a 100 hours a week, go somewhere else." I finally did.
Managers don't care the quality if the quality of the work starts to suck, all they know is hitting deadlines. But typically they will come back saying the project sucked and have to do it over. but its a new project so clock is restarted. Real funny, there is never enough time to something right the first time, but there is time to do it over.
Dell and HP save money buy puting Corel on. But when was the last time someone other than a lawyer used Word Perfect, and Quattro oh yuck. So when they need to learn Word and Excel because they need to know them to get a job in the real world they will have to by MS Office.
I'd like to have the contract to sell them all the storage to hold 6 months of logs for every ISP.
All benchmarks favor whoever requested they be written. So its a crap shoot, choose the one you want to believe in, then go do you own tests, Your own testing is the only tests that matter.
Even if what you said was true it would be terrible for Linux future. If Linux was only used for home or hobby use it won't survive. Linux needs businesses use for the R&D that a developer sitting at home can't do. Corporate support should also bring about more QA that Linux needs.
HP had an Unix solution I believe called OpenMail. They killed it off a year or so ago. That only leaves Sun's iPlanet, it does what Exchange does and more.
Why there is no open source solution is an interesting question. I think its because it doesn't interest them. Programmers who donate their time want to write code that is interesting to them. I guess writing a Exchange replacement doesn't turn them on like a kernel, compiler, graphics, or ???
People have been trying to find a use for pie menus for over a decade and still haven't. I first saw it tried back in the late 80's on a Mac. I saw it tried again in the early 90's on Windows. All it proved to be is a nice programming challenge. Now they popup again. The example using it in a game has kind of a lame cuteness factor, but that's it. Something for a graphic game.
I was involved in a product dispute like this and the way the lawyers explained it was the Clean Programmer vs. Dirty Programmer. If a programmer has seen the product in question and writes a similar program he is a Dirty Programmer. It can be in a different language if the programs are similar he copied the other program and violated copyright. Now if the programmer didn't ever see the program being copied and was working from descriptions being supplied he is a Clean programmer and no violation. Stupid, but there is no consistency in the laws.
In our case a competitor heard we were working on a program with some features similar to theirs. So to try and create the Dirty Programmer situation our competitor sent copies of their program to our developers trying to get them to look at it. Lucky for us the developers went to management and they went to legal department. Legal collected all the copies of the program and had a hell of a chat with our competitor.
Let see a survey of mainly European developers prefer free software versus paying higher prices for import software (and hardware.) Geez this has been an reality for decades. Being I used to be a Marketing slime I'll throw in this was always a problem selling U.S. software outside the U.S. because of import costs. Also higher hardware costs outside the U.S. means they tend to run older hardware so they need software with less system requirements. Even more an issue in South America. So is anyone surprised that the results show a free OS that has less system requirements appeals to them. I'm suprised they felt they needed to do a survey to figure it out.
Now they have good taste in editors vi rules! but poor taste in desktops. Gnome oh yuck, it is so five minutes ago.
Dell computers are basically white box computers using mainly Intel parts. That has been their design for years. So they are going to try and sell to their competition the little computer shops that have a bigger selection of parts. I don't think that is going to fly. Now if they are going to try and sell these things to consultants that want to add selling systems to their services maybe that will fly. Gateway tried something like this years ago. They sold their regular line of computers to consultants at a discount. I think will be another Dell idea to come and be gone a few months later.
TurboLinux failed because they never understood that typical distro customers are mainly desktop users. Desktop users want a GUI frilly multi-media, office suite stuffage. Turbo had some nice text based utilities, came fairly secure out of the box, and they spent a lot on server features. Their TurboCluster load balancer, then distributed application tools they did with IBM and other tools. They focused a lot on the corporate market that wasn't ready for them.
The don't like comparing Mhz or Ghz because they know they they can't compete. Mhz or Ghz are exmaple of performance of integer instructions which most the software the typical user runs is compromised of. These PPC and AMD whiners want to use their tests that focus on floating point and multi-media instructions, that they focus on. So that is as boogus and only looking at Mhz or Ghz alone.
Bottom line you have to look at what you're going to using the computer for. Do you need better floating point or multi-media instructions. Then look for benchmarks related to those areas. If typical user then look for benchmarks that focus on integer instructions and Mhz or Ghz.
Reality is for most users 1 Ghz is the point of diminishing return on CPU size. Unless a hard core gamer or running simulations CPU's over a gigahertz you're mainly just paying for bragging rights not additional performance. The bus speeds, memory, and IO devices are you bottleneck. The CPU is idling most the time.
Choice is what all of this should be about. I started a big Linux fan, but as the Linux community turned more into a religous movement mandating what to like and what to hate I started losing interest. Now for those and other reason I and a ~BSD fan. More important I live and work in the real world and there is no one correct solution. I use MS products when they make sense for the customer, and Sun or other Unix variants when they are the best choice.
Bottom line, freedom of choice is what is most important.
School is to teach you how to think, how to learn. How many people spend the rest of their life coding in the same language they coded in, in college. When I went to school pascal was the main teaching language, it's been ages since I wrote in pascal. But they taught me learn one language inside-out, then learning other languages will be simple and they were right. C# is a modern language representive of the current trend so not students learning inside-out will be prepared to work in any language in the real world.
It's just a fact of life, anyone who has managed a support department knows the cost per call understands what I saying. Supporting Unix is expensive, the training costs, the time per call, and so on. Windows sheer volume and ability to hire people off the streets to do support make it cheaper to support. Also companies like Dell only do install support, so they have to push customers off to other sources for useability questions. Again Windows sheer volume make it easier for the masses to find someone to help them. With Linux its much harder to find another person to help and they are foreced the internet for help and that take longer and it can be cruel to newbies. This leaves customer mad at Dell for putting something other than Windows on a system. So the extra expense of dealing with Microsoft in long run is better for Dell's bottom line and customer relations.
Money is the most powerful tool. Quit worrying about the lawmakers or hoping they will protect you. Money DOES make the world go 'round. Boycott products and urgue others to do the same. When revenues drop companies react. Even a Microsoft will flinch if you get people to boycott their products.
Well sounds like you should be using VB, it was designed to hold your hand.
My answer is what took him so long to get around looking at the Win32 APIs. Hey dude there's a whole another world of undocumented API's to play with too. Windows has security holes, that is so five minutes ago. Show me an major OS that doesn't have security patches rolling out. Yes even OpenBSD has security patches. It's a fact of life when your code base of that large.
Real men run headless servers, without this girlie GUI shit!
Isn't the idea behind Open Source is with "100's of thousands of developers" you can stay on top new technologies unlike commericial software with smaller development teams. No this isn't a troll message, I'm saying think before you open your mouth. You had a positive message in support was now available, but you dimisnished it with your, only took a year longer we're #2 rubbish.
There was never a shortage of US tech people. The shortage was tech people willing to work cheap. So corporations whined and being the goverment always bends over backward in the name of corporate profits started handing out the visa's. Add to that companies moving jobs outside to country to continue getting cheap help. Ireland and India are both places with growing tech industries from run away American companies like Sun.
I bet this would make for a great movie plot.
Now I can use Apache and keep the MS oriented developer happy. This is a Win-Win for everyone.
Athlon got me to switch to AMD for awhile, a short while. They never worked out their heat concerns. Now with 64-bit Intel is evolving past its mistakes and moving forward. AMD with it 64-bit is try to drag those same mistake into the future. At some point you have to leave the past to the past. CP/M. DOS, OS/2, Windows. or better yet 8080, Z80, 6502, 68000, 8088, 286...
Good SysAdmin got to sleep a year ago because they were up on their IIS patches. Bad SysAdmins aren't exclusive to Windows, they work on all platforms regretfully.