I know this is just a bad joke. But when currencies devalutate so does the prices and the cost of work. So assuming they are doing the research in EU, they could still get the same work for for the same amount of money, even if the money was devaluated.
No corruption is wider:
Lobby => Corruption
Corruption !=> Lobbyism
Btw. The European Commision like the european parliament is bit special, since most people hate when they interfer with the local governments. Therefore the more pet projects they launch that leads nowhere, the less actual work is done, and thus the more popular they are.
The EU politicians three step road to profit and popularity: 1. Scratch someones pet idea 2. Let it rot, and play golf 3. PROFIT!
I've seen that makefile. It evolved from the hands of one of my fellow tutors when we were teaching kernel-programming. It was only a single makefile but it compile an entire kernel, not by itself, but by spawning offsprings into every subdirectory and then executing the new makefiles one by one.
I am not sure, but after a year or so, I think it grew concious and started modifing itself. I didnt understand it or any of it's offsprings any longer, but I am quite sure it was evil. And it never liked me! In the end I had no choice but to kill it and there was much rejoycement as the students had feared it as well. I had to write new makefiles for the subdirectories myself And though the new makefiles was simpler, had less features and required a more rigid structure of subdirectories everybody breathed more easily after that.
I just fear some careless student might have a taken a backup and that it is still breeding evil offspring somewhere. Someday it might come back to revenge the murder of it's copies everywhere. So beware!
Interesting point. I'm wondering why companies would bother paying $1200 for packages you can get off the shelf for free, many of which are already installed by default for server configurations on several distros.
Security and service. What ordinary managers would trust something a young sys.ad. had just downloaded from the internet?
Except that they fund most of the driver development for Xfree86, a lot of KDE developers, an important handfull of linux kernel developers and much more.
So what are you claiming, that Xfree86, KDE and Linux are all closed source, or that you are a complete moron?
In case some new generations of nerds doesnt know. That is a reference to the movie "Wargames", where they try to teach a computer exactly that by letting it play tic-tac-toe ad infinitum, and that way saves the world. (Dont ask)
C) Recompiling all those packages, or keeping both i386 and i686 archives, would be a tremendous amount of work. And, to be honest, 99% of apps don't benefit that much from the optimizations anyways. Recompile your multi-media apps (or use ones that detect the corrent modules at runtime) and install an optimized kernel package, and you should be good.
Not really, do you have any idea of how many platforms Debian is currently autocompiled for? (I've lost count)
Some of these platforms takes days or weeks to compile some packages so there should be pleanty of time to compile the i386 package twice.
No the real issue is that dispite how cool processor specific optimizations sounds, the gains are very limited. I think it is supposed to improve when we switch to gcc-3.2, but it has to be ready for all the Debian platforms before that is attempted.
Exactly and following that logic, when the government goes shopping for software it is people who buys it as well. So if the government buys licenses to MS Office, then it should be put in public domain..:-)
I think you missed the fact that one of the most important cources in academic economy is game theory.
No, it is not about games as we know them, but about simplistic economic models and how people responds to them and how they develop.. As such MMORPG are excelent speciments, especially because they through ebay and such now has an exchange-rate between real and virtual money.
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KDE 2.2.2 compiled fine with gcc 3.1, and gcc 3.2 is internally gcc 3.1.2 (with new ABI)
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Unsurprising view, when considering that Xandros is based upon Debian. In that context it is a bleeding edge stable release.
It is easy to use for the people it is designed to and for them it is EASIER to use than a newbee focused graphical installer would be. Ease of use is not just for new users, it can also be of use for experienced users, and these two can divege because the experienced users can easierly handle more power. And more direct power means they have to do less wierd tweaking later on.
It is 67% of households, you always measure in percentage households. I recently read (properbly the same survey) that Denmark and Sweden yet again was the two countries with the highish internet connectivity. But the number of households with internet is still in the area of 70-80%. This must mean that in S.Korea around 100% of all internet connections are broadband.
As much as I dispise american (and western) IP laws and attitude. How can you hold people accountable for something someoneelse did 200 years ago, and how can it possibly be hypocrisy?
I dont know why you use the term "objectively inferior". There are lots of things I could do in Wordperfect 8, that I have still not seen any version of Word manage.. ONE of the things is something as simple as keeping grafs where I place them, and not move them around randomly to some place that looks awefull. In wordperfect I can align any box either to place in text, paragraphs, or place on page.
The only thing Word does slightly better are tables, but if I need lots of tables I am already writing in LaTex.
What do you mean kde 3.1 is around 10-20Mb? Okey, so I have activated debugging info, but anyway my installation of KDE takes 2Gbyte!, and this is without the i18n-stuff which totals 800Mbytes.
I guess without debugging and i18n you could get KDE 3.1 down to a few hundred megabytes, but not much less. KDE is huge in every sense of the word.
One more thing. Windows XP and 2k both profiles application launch. So when you run an application you have runned before, the OS will preload libraries it know the application will ask for during launch.
If we were to do the same, we would have to merge binutils and KDE. (With the current expansion rate of KDE it can't be far off)
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I know this is just a bad joke. But when currencies devalutate so does the prices and the cost of work. So assuming they are doing the research in EU, they could still get the same work for for the same amount of money, even if the money was devaluated.
No corruption is wider:
Lobby => Corruption
Corruption !=> Lobbyism
Btw. The European Commision like the european parliament is bit special, since most people hate when they interfer with the local governments. Therefore the more pet projects they launch that leads nowhere, the less actual work is done, and thus the more popular they are.
The EU politicians three step road to profit and popularity:
1. Scratch someones pet idea
2. Let it rot, and play golf
3. PROFIT!
I've seen that makefile. It evolved from the hands of one of my fellow tutors when we were teaching kernel-programming. It was only a single makefile but it compile an entire kernel, not by itself, but by spawning offsprings into every subdirectory and then executing the new makefiles one by one.
I am not sure, but after a year or so, I think it grew concious and started modifing itself. I didnt understand it or any of it's offsprings any longer, but I am quite sure it was evil. And it never liked me! In the end I had no choice but to kill it and there was much rejoycement as the students had feared it as well. I had to write new makefiles for the subdirectories myself And though the new makefiles was simpler, had less features and required a more rigid structure of subdirectories everybody breathed more easily after that.
I just fear some careless student might have a taken a backup and that it is still breeding evil offspring somewhere. Someday it might come back to revenge the murder of it's copies everywhere. So beware!
Actually I got 30. Seems like moderation ragnorok inthere.. OTOH now I've seen a (Score:5, Troll)
Interesting point. I'm wondering why companies would bother paying $1200 for packages you can get off the shelf for free, many of which are already installed by default for server configurations on several distros.
Security and service. What ordinary managers would trust something a young sys.ad. had just downloaded from the internet?
Except that they fund most of the driver development for Xfree86, a lot of KDE developers, an important handfull of linux kernel developers and much more.
So what are you claiming, that Xfree86, KDE and Linux are all closed source, or that you are a complete moron?
Yes, but why use virus scanners, when you can have a safe system instead?
In case some new generations of nerds doesnt know. That is a reference to the movie "Wargames", where they try to teach a computer exactly that by letting it play tic-tac-toe ad infinitum, and that way saves the world. (Dont ask)
There is lot of diversity within Linux (lots of different vendors and supporters) but it's all compatible.
Hmmrr. With a slightly red face Linus replies:
"Well... Atleast mostly compatible"
C) Recompiling all those packages, or keeping both i386 and i686 archives, would be a tremendous amount of work. And, to be honest, 99% of apps don't benefit that much from the optimizations anyways. Recompile your multi-media apps (or use ones that detect the corrent modules at runtime) and install an optimized kernel package, and you should be good.
Not really, do you have any idea of how many platforms Debian is currently autocompiled for? (I've lost count)
Some of these platforms takes days or weeks to compile some packages so there should be pleanty of time to compile the i386 package twice.
No the real issue is that dispite how cool processor specific optimizations sounds, the gains are very limited. I think it is supposed to improve when we switch to gcc-3.2, but it has to be ready for all the Debian platforms before that is attempted.
What is the difference?
When you pay for software you pay for it's development. Otherwise there would be no reason for software to cost anything.
Exactly and following that logic, when the government goes shopping for software it is people who buys it as well. So if the government buys licenses to MS Office, then it should be put in public domain.. :-)
I think you missed the fact that one of the most important cources in academic economy is game theory.
No, it is not about games as we know them, but about simplistic economic models and how people responds to them and how they develop.. As such MMORPG are excelent speciments, especially because they through ebay and such now has an exchange-rate between real and virtual money.
KDE 2.2.2 compiled fine with gcc 3.1, and gcc 3.2 is internally gcc 3.1.2 (with new ABI)
Unsurprising view, when considering that Xandros is based upon Debian. In that context it is a bleeding edge stable release.
No he was right, you are just too narrowminded.
It is easy to use for the people it is designed to and for them it is EASIER to use than a newbee focused graphical installer would be. Ease of use is not just for new users, it can also be of use for experienced users, and these two can divege because the experienced users can easierly handle more power. And more direct power means they have to do less wierd tweaking later on.
It is 67% of households, you always measure in percentage households. I recently read (properbly the same survey) that Denmark and Sweden yet again was the two countries with the highish internet connectivity. But the number of households with internet is still in the area of 70-80%.
This must mean that in S.Korea around 100% of all internet connections are broadband.
I thought he was made honourary elf like Bilbo.
Funny I would say these were the most invalid. Chechnia has a government and Palestine has an international recognized one.
I was only arguing against the 10-20Mbyte statement, because kdelibs+kdebase in themselves takes up a significant amount of space.
As much as I dispise american (and western) IP laws and attitude. How can you hold people accountable for something someoneelse did 200 years ago, and how can it possibly be hypocrisy?
No, it is not off, it is a fact. But as I said this is with debugging: "-O2 -g" that makes the executables 5-10 times larger.
Your 300Mbytes sounds reasonable, like I said without debugging it would come down to a few hundred megabytes.
I dont know why you use the term "objectively inferior". There are lots of things I could do in Wordperfect 8, that I have still not seen any version of Word manage.. ONE of the things is something as simple as keeping grafs where I place them, and not move them around randomly to some place that looks awefull. In wordperfect I can align any box either to place in text, paragraphs, or place on page.
The only thing Word does slightly better are tables, but if I need lots of tables I am already writing in LaTex.
What do you mean kde 3.1 is around 10-20Mb?
Okey, so I have activated debugging info, but anyway my installation of KDE takes 2Gbyte!, and this is without the i18n-stuff which totals 800Mbytes.
I guess without debugging and i18n you could get KDE 3.1 down to a few hundred megabytes, but not much less. KDE is huge in every sense of the word.
One more thing. Windows XP and 2k both profiles application launch. So when you run an application you have runned before, the OS will preload libraries it know the application will ask for during launch.
If we were to do the same, we would have to merge binutils and KDE. (With the current expansion rate of KDE it can't be far off)