Please note that of all the things in the article that M$ is promising to do " in future releases", the only one they are workingon really hard right now is Palladium aka TCP et al. They are really pushing to get the hardware vendors on board ASAP so the DRM they want to push can be implemented. Yes I know that Vi$ta has a lot of DRM on board already but they want to tighten up even more by linking the hardware into the verification of the OS and apps. The fact that Vi$ta is a POS doesn't bother me near as much as when all the M$ club members start putting out hardware and apps that will only run on Vi$ta. IIRC Phoenix and Award BIOS already have the necessary components on board they just need to be activated.
Sorry but I gotta call bullshit on at least part of this. You say you can clean any infection including kernal rootkits in a flat 2 hours without a re image. I don't think so. Obviously you have no idea of what you are talking about on that topic. I wonder how many folks you have "helped" and left totally compromised.
Geewhiz, a long time ago in a galaxy far far away I used to be a rabid Apple fanatic. I mean the Apple ][ days. I Looooooooved my machines. Sniffed at Commodore, IBM and all the rest. Then the company made the fortune 500 on the backs of all the ][ users. They then decided that they were no longer interested in the home user they wanted the corporate market. I think most can recall the AppleIII ( which was out during the ][ days just not doing well) the Lisa and of course the very first Macs. So the dark Sith lords decided to dump all support and reasonable priced ( at that time) products for home users. I heard the message loud and clear "Thank you for helping us get our business going...now fuck off and die" After buying a ][, then a ][+ and a ][e and was looking at the ][ gs I heard they would no longer support any ][ series. If you wanted Apple you were going to get a Mac or nothing. Considering my ][e cost me somewhere in the neighborhood of $2500 before I added extras the thought of paying about double for a Mac was rather distasteful. So I got turned to the dark side. Am I a M$ or *nix fanboy..not by any means. But then again I am not an IMO's pizza fan boy either but I buy from them rather than from Dominos who tried to fuck me. I am constantly amazed by the number of folks who will roll over and wave their legs in the air anytime their ( insert favorite item here ) maker decides to fuck em hard and doesn't even give em a reach around. I feel Apple screwed me ( and a bunch of others ) so they will never get anymore of my money.
So this is somehow different than the backdoor in the encryption scheme that HP foisted off on everyone? The one that they immediately turned over to law enforcement on rquest? Get real.
If I understand all the comments here. I have the option of NOT d/l the WGA, but I will not be able to get any updates. Updates like the critical patch that honked Office, Nividia drivers, and wiped out Outlook Express address book wouldn't be d/l? So this is somehow a bad thing? I can't d/l IE7? OH NOES........whatever shall I do?
...all the corporate whores come out with "it's not dedicated its burstable". BUT....nothing says "burstable" in the TOS. Looks like the ISPs having lost the war on the idea that unlimited service meant limited bandwidth now are going with unlimited means burstable. Same tune different lyrics. Lets get real, using a car analogy which seems so prevelant here, if you rent a car for a week with unlimited milegae and want to drive 500 miles per day, they don't use Lojack to set a limit on the throttle or turn off the car for 24 hours after the first 100 miles because unlimited means burstable mileage. If you advertise and charge to provide a service, then provide the service advertised and charged for...anything else strongly resembles the nightsoil of a large, well fed, male bovine. The ISPs don't mind taking your money for fees, as long as you don't actually use what you paid for, but when you want them to hold up their side of the bargain they immediately start to weasel. (my apologies to weasels for the comparison). So for all the corporate whores posting about how the ISPs provide such a great deal and we shouldn't complain..go over to that other place where they have ISP forums for all you fanboys to hangout in and BS the customers.
...back when Paladium was first mentioned by M$. I said then that we only had to wait and eventually our computers would no longer be ours. Then Paladium became TCPA and it looked even worse. Now it's TCG. After 9/11 I knew what was to follow. In the name of security we would no longer be in control of our own PCs. Yes I know that corporate inertia will resist the changeover but remember that M$ changed the terms of it's volume license agreement so that not migrating would be extremely expensive. For all the already stated reasons that have been posted we all know that corporate America is not going to embrace open source any time soon. With the release of Vista and all the incorporated DRM etc. the situation just becomes worse. Does anyone think that for one minute Dell, HP, Gateway or any other OEM is not going to follow along with all of this and refuse to incorporate all this crap on their systems? Let's be realistic, the sheeple will buy what the OEMs sell. The average American computer owner doesn't care what is happening inside the box. At this point I imagine 85% of the average users have been "bit" by some sort of virus, malware or crapware and learned an expensive lesson (maybe). The selling point that they won't ever have to worry about some "evil thingie" gumming up their PC will appeal to their narrow little minds. They don't stop to think through all the possibilities of what this technology can be used to prevent. I am certainly not an engineer or developer but I don't think it's a big step to have the "trust chip" verify virtually everything that you want to do before you are allowed to do it. Hmmm want to visit a website? Wait while the digital verification is checked. Nope that site expresses views contrary to what we want you to hear. Want to open that email? Nope, it's been generated by a non compliant PC. Now of course this is all being done for the users own good and the security of our nation. Want to access your documments? Gee we're sorry but because your subscription to M$ Office Live ran out we can't allow that. Users don't care whats going on in the box, they just want someone to tell them they'll be protected from all those nasties out there. If you build it, hype it, and sell it, the sheeple will buy it.
On average, a whole 20 pieces of spyware? Where I work, on AVERAGE, the PCs we see have in excess of 500. I'm talking ad/spy ware not including the bonus virus, trojans, et al. This crap ranges from mild to extreme. From being installed via customer ignorance or stupidity ( there IS a difference )to coming in thru drive by in IE exploits(which I guess could fall under ignorance or stupidity).
...stop trying to find a siver bullet for all their protection. I have yet to run across any "security suite" that hasn't caused some kind of issue. Whether it's from components just blowing chunks or being too confusing for Joe Sixpack to configure properly. I feel the same way about the "all in one" printer/fax/scanner/copier/fix-your-coffee-in-the- morning POSs all the printer companies are pushing on customers. It's been my experience that any product that tries to do many things ends up doing none of them well.
I gotta call bullsh*t on that as a blanket statement. The tool works sometimes, not all the time. As to how it deals with M$ honking Norton I profess ignorance. But I say again that tool does NOT work all the time.
Well I guess I'd be one if I still had hair. I'll be 55 this year. I remember playing Pong on the old b/w tv when it first came out. The next clear memory I have is of playing a video game in Picadilly Circus in London about 1972 it was called UFO I think, it was just a centered space ship able to rotate and "shoot" at flying saucers. But it was a "real" video game. My first computer games were Mission Impossible and some other text based game that I accessed from a sequential tape drive. Now a days I prefer the FPSs. The shop where I work actually has a SOF2 server set up and when things are slow we all jump on it. I'm the grandpa at the shop by about 10 years but I can still teach the younkers a thing or two about guile and just being plain old sneaky. The newer FPSs to me are just not as good. Lot of flash (eye candy) but no substance. (ex: Doom 3).
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For some reason I kept reading "cult" with an "n"
Wait a minute!! You mean there's an actual republican running this election? I thought there were just 3 democrats left in the race.
Please note that of all the things in the article that M$ is promising to do " in future releases", the only one they are workingon really hard right now is Palladium aka TCP et al. They are really pushing to get the hardware vendors on board ASAP so the DRM they want to push can be implemented. Yes I know that Vi$ta has a lot of DRM on board already but they want to tighten up even more by linking the hardware into the verification of the OS and apps. The fact that Vi$ta is a POS doesn't bother me near as much as when all the M$ club members start putting out hardware and apps that will only run on Vi$ta. IIRC Phoenix and Award BIOS already have the necessary components on board they just need to be activated.
Sorry but I gotta call bullshit on at least part of this. You say you can clean any infection including kernal rootkits in a flat 2 hours without a re image. I don't think so. Obviously you have no idea of what you are talking about on that topic. I wonder how many folks you have "helped" and left totally compromised.
Geewhiz, a long time ago in a galaxy far far away I used to be a rabid Apple fanatic. I mean the Apple ][ days. I Looooooooved my machines. Sniffed at Commodore, IBM and all the rest. Then the company made the fortune 500 on the backs of all the ][ users. They then decided that they were no longer interested in the home user they wanted the corporate market. I think most can recall the AppleIII ( which was out during the ][ days just not doing well) the Lisa and of course the very first Macs. So the dark Sith lords decided to dump all support and reasonable priced ( at that time) products for home users. I heard the message loud and clear "Thank you for helping us get our business going...now fuck off and die" After buying a ][, then a ][+ and a ][e and was looking at the ][ gs I heard they would no longer support any ][ series. If you wanted Apple you were going to get a Mac or nothing. Considering my ][e cost me somewhere in the neighborhood of $2500 before I added extras the thought of paying about double for a Mac was rather distasteful. So I got turned to the dark side. Am I a M$ or *nix fanboy..not by any means. But then again I am not an IMO's pizza fan boy either but I buy from them rather than from Dominos who tried to fuck me. I am constantly amazed by the number of folks who will roll over and wave their legs in the air anytime their ( insert favorite item here ) maker decides to fuck em hard and doesn't even give em a reach around. I feel Apple screwed me ( and a bunch of others ) so they will never get anymore of my money.
So this is somehow different than the backdoor in the encryption scheme that HP foisted off on everyone? The one that they immediately turned over to law enforcement on rquest? Get real.
...and all this time I thought they were added features!!
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If I understand all the comments here. I have the option of NOT d/l the WGA, but I will not be able to get any updates. Updates like the critical patch that honked Office, Nividia drivers, and wiped out Outlook Express address book wouldn't be d/l? So this is somehow a bad thing? I can't d/l IE7? OH NOES........whatever shall I do?
...all the corporate whores come out with "it's not dedicated its burstable". BUT....nothing says "burstable" in the TOS. Looks like the ISPs having lost the war on the idea that unlimited service meant limited bandwidth now are going with unlimited means burstable. Same tune different lyrics. Lets get real, using a car analogy which seems so prevelant here, if you rent a car for a week with unlimited milegae and want to drive 500 miles per day, they don't use Lojack to set a limit on the throttle or turn off the car for 24 hours after the first 100 miles because unlimited means burstable mileage. If you advertise and charge to provide a service, then provide the service advertised and charged for...anything else strongly resembles the nightsoil of a large, well fed, male bovine. The ISPs don't mind taking your money for fees, as long as you don't actually use what you paid for, but when you want them to hold up their side of the bargain they immediately start to weasel. (my apologies to weasels for the comparison). So for all the corporate whores posting about how the ISPs provide such a great deal and we shouldn't complain..go over to that other place where they have ISP forums for all you fanboys to hangout in and BS the customers.
...back when Paladium was first mentioned by M$. I said then that we only had to wait and eventually our computers would no longer be ours. Then Paladium became TCPA and it looked even worse. Now it's TCG. After 9/11 I knew what was to follow. In the name of security we would no longer be in control of our own PCs. Yes I know that corporate inertia will resist the changeover but remember that M$ changed the terms of it's volume license agreement so that not migrating would be extremely expensive. For all the already stated reasons that have been posted we all know that corporate America is not going to embrace open source any time soon. With the release of Vista and all the incorporated DRM etc. the situation just becomes worse. Does anyone think that for one minute Dell, HP, Gateway or any other OEM is not going to follow along with all of this and refuse to incorporate all this crap on their systems? Let's be realistic, the sheeple will buy what the OEMs sell. The average American computer owner doesn't care what is happening inside the box. At this point I imagine 85% of the average users have been "bit" by some sort of virus, malware or crapware and learned an expensive lesson (maybe). The selling point that they won't ever have to worry about some "evil thingie" gumming up their PC will appeal to their narrow little minds. They don't stop to think through all the possibilities of what this technology can be used to prevent. I am certainly not an engineer or developer but I don't think it's a big step to have the "trust chip" verify virtually everything that you want to do before you are allowed to do it. Hmmm want to visit a website? Wait while the digital verification is checked. Nope that site expresses views contrary to what we want you to hear. Want to open that email? Nope, it's been generated by a non compliant PC. Now of course this is all being done for the users own good and the security of our nation. Want to access your documments? Gee we're sorry but because your subscription to M$ Office Live ran out we can't allow that. Users don't care whats going on in the box, they just want someone to tell them they'll be protected from all those nasties out there. If you build it, hype it, and sell it, the sheeple will buy it.
On average, a whole 20 pieces of spyware? Where I work, on AVERAGE, the PCs we see have in excess of 500. I'm talking ad/spy ware not including the bonus virus, trojans, et al. This crap ranges from mild to extreme. From being installed via customer ignorance or stupidity ( there IS a difference )to coming in thru drive by in IE exploits(which I guess could fall under ignorance or stupidity).
...stop trying to find a siver bullet for all their protection. I have yet to run across any "security suite" that hasn't caused some kind of issue. Whether it's from components just blowing chunks or being too confusing for Joe Sixpack to configure properly. I feel the same way about the "all in one" printer/fax/scanner/copier/fix-your-coffee-in-the- morning POSs all the printer companies are pushing on customers. It's been my experience that any product that tries to do many things ends up doing none of them well.
I gotta call bullsh*t on that as a blanket statement. The tool works sometimes, not all the time. As to how it deals with M$ honking Norton I profess ignorance. But I say again that tool does NOT work all the time.
Well I guess I'd be one if I still had hair. I'll be 55 this year. I remember playing Pong on the old b/w tv when it first came out. The next clear memory I have is of playing a video game in Picadilly Circus in London about 1972 it was called UFO I think, it was just a centered space ship able to rotate and "shoot" at flying saucers. But it was a "real" video game. My first computer games were Mission Impossible and some other text based game that I accessed from a sequential tape drive. Now a days I prefer the FPSs. The shop where I work actually has a SOF2 server set up and when things are slow we all jump on it. I'm the grandpa at the shop by about 10 years but I can still teach the younkers a thing or two about guile and just being plain old sneaky. The newer FPSs to me are just not as good. Lot of flash (eye candy) but no substance. (ex: Doom 3).