But that's an argument for cameras! Even if they didn't prevent 9/11, without those cameras we wouldn't have known who performed the attacks -> wouldn't have known to invade Iraq!!
Sick a lot, "Meat probably isn't helping" -> Eat no meat, "Still sick a lot, but at least now I get to feel superior and call people ignorant, I'll stick with it!"
Yeah, what dipweeds. I was all set to make a "We're going back to the moon" -> "Please send fake moondust kthx":: "Doesn't anyone find this suspicious?!" post, but apparently there's no mere suspicion here- the fakeness of the moonlanding is fact.
Oh good, I can drop support for Windows then since nobody has it.
Microsoft is the legal owner of the TRADEMARK and COPYRIGHT for Windows, Windows being a collection of source code and the binaries derived. If you want to use such a scewed definition of "Windows", you might as well say that nobody can steal Windows since it's just a Concept which nobody owns and Microsoft has certain legal rights relating to, but not possession of (as it is immaterial).
Let's look at the conversation so far:
"If Microsoft didnt spend so much time worrying about people stealing[copying] Windows, their distribution cost would be nil"
"You can't steal[move] Windows"
"Well, you can, actually."
"I meant you can't steal[move] Windows[a concept not being discussed]"
English, learn it. Words are defined by their context. (you queezblat)
That's a Generic Marine who multiclassed into a maybe-cylon and then took some levels in cylon. You may have noticed the drop in XP gain since she took that third class
You are wrong. While "Copyright infringement" is not theft can be argued for, it is, as an unrelated issue, possible to steal Windows, and such has happened.
"Making an illegal copy of something is not theft" != "It is impossible to steal something which Copyright Law applies to"
The gp's argument could be valid in another argument, but not this one, as we're talking about costs of distribution, not total cost.
I don't play the sims precisely because of the limited and stupid choices you have of how to kill a character. They could either make it impossible to kill a character ("this is stupid, no matter how much you screw up he doesn't die"), or just make it not fun to kill a character ( not fun)
While a great/second/ step is trying out a distro on a second system (where the rest of these threads can go), a first step is to get the basics. You dont need a full featured system for basics.
Cygwin -> Dual-boot -> Side-by-Side -> Use Synergy for side-by-side with 2 linux;D
Way to mention things that Cygwin would allow you to do;) It's not "Windows by default" it's "What you're already using by default".
I'm personally used to working on Linux and Solaris, but before I had tried out some unix-style tools on Windows (which allowed me to keep working while getting familiar with the system), it would have been stupid to.. well, just stop working.
If you are already used to Windows, and can try out the benefits of Linux without completely abandoning what you have, why would you want to "dive in" and waste what could be a perfectly good system?
Cygwin allows you to try out some benefits of Linux without dedicating anything. That's [my] point.
do you want to tell them to do that ("type this"), in which case they need to memorize a long meaningless string with no mnemonic? Or do you want to explain all the concepts involved in that one "simple" command (how many can you count? I'm up to 12), that is, just the basic ones required to have some small idea of what they are typing means. Oh and by the way, none of these concepts have anything to do with any task they actually want to use the computer for, they're just required to know this particular command. (explaining how to run the thing is at least another three concepts, in a world where people don't understand the conceptual difference between the installation program, what that program installs, and a link to what that program installs. Seriously. You probably take it for granted, but it seems most people can't grasp any of those concepts)
I personally think the problem is more fundamental, and everyone should be trained from birth to think like a programmer. But should we require so many external variables just because we (personally) know what they are? That's bad style.
My math teacher in highschool once explained (with examples) why 0/0 is not 0, but is instead undefined (like anything else over zero). I can't remember the examples, but you could get it to be infinity, zero, four, whatever. Anyone care to post similar?
Assuming he encoded it using a bunch of dots, which he never claimed to do. This guy is full of shit for entirely different reasons. Here is the conversation so far, let's see if you can detect where you became a jackass: [Idiot] I have come up with a novel technique of encoding data which nobody has thought of before, which will get a much higher capacity than the normal and obvious way. [Jackass] If you used the normal and obvious way of encoding data there's no way you could store that much, so you must be lying.
Oh look, it was the first thing out of your mouth.
He is an idiot because: He didnt even hint at anything he could be doing differently and yet expects people to buy his story just because he said "It's different, so it works. Seriously, I'm Indian so you know I'm smart, I don't need to explain myself at all to be credible." You are an idiot because: You ignored the one and only thing he/did/ say, which was that he was doing something differently.
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it may not be a good joke, but it is an old joke..
But that's an argument for cameras! Even if they didn't prevent 9/11, without those cameras we wouldn't have known who performed the attacks -> wouldn't have known to invade Iraq!!
Sick a lot, "Meat probably isn't helping" -> Eat no meat, "Still sick a lot, but at least now I get to feel superior and call people ignorant, I'll stick with it!"
Yeah, what dipweeds. I was all set to make a "We're going back to the moon" -> "Please send fake moondust kthx" :: "Doesn't anyone find this suspicious?!" post, but apparently there's no mere suspicion here- the fakeness of the moonlanding is fact.
A modern operating system with only "thousands of lines of code"? sounds efficient to me :)
start worrying when somebody announces a cure for all disease, ever.
Microsoft is the legal owner of the TRADEMARK and COPYRIGHT for Windows, Windows being a collection of source code and the binaries derived. If you want to use such a scewed definition of "Windows", you might as well say that nobody can steal Windows since it's just a Concept which nobody owns and Microsoft has certain legal rights relating to, but not possession of (as it is immaterial).
Let's look at the conversation so far:
"If Microsoft didnt spend so much time worrying about people stealing[copying] Windows, their distribution cost would be nil"
"You can't steal[move] Windows"
"Well, you can, actually."
"I meant you can't steal[move] Windows[a concept not being discussed]"
English, learn it. Words are defined by their context. (you queezblat)
That's a Generic Marine who multiclassed into a maybe-cylon and then took some levels in cylon. You may have noticed the drop in XP gain since she took that third class
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sarcasm
You are wrong. While "Copyright infringement" is not theft can be argued for, it is, as an unrelated issue, possible to steal Windows, and such has happened.
"Making an illegal copy of something is not theft" != "It is impossible to steal something which Copyright Law applies to"
The gp's argument could be valid in another argument, but not this one, as we're talking about costs of distribution, not total cost.
I don't play the sims precisely because of the limited and stupid choices you have of how to kill a character.
They could either make it impossible to kill a character ("this is stupid, no matter how much you screw up he doesn't die"), or just make it not fun to kill a character ( not fun)
While a great /second/ step is trying out a distro on a second system (where the rest of these threads can go), a first step is to get the basics. You dont need a full featured system for basics.
;D
Cygwin -> Dual-boot -> Side-by-Side -> Use Synergy for side-by-side with 2 linux
Way to mention things that Cygwin would allow you to do ;)
It's not "Windows by default" it's "What you're already using by default".
I'm personally used to working on Linux and Solaris, but before I had tried out some unix-style tools on Windows (which allowed me to keep working while getting familiar with the system), it would have been stupid to.. well, just stop working.
If you are already used to Windows, and can try out the benefits of Linux without completely abandoning what you have, why would you want to "dive in" and waste what could be a perfectly good system?
Cygwin allows you to try out some benefits of Linux without dedicating anything. That's [my] point.
Use Windows until you have reason to use Linux. Don't use Linux until it's better for you.
So not only does it cost 3x as much as the next guy, but I'm not even going to ever use what I'm paying for? Way to go, Sony.
-or-
[some DRM joke]
Oh, it's everyone then?
Sorry, didn't know there was consensus.
Hey everybody! There's consensus! We can stop all the useless security measures!
Those are the longest leaps of logic I've seen since "I don't know where the universe came from" -> "God must have done it". Impressive.
Loonatics wants their XTreme back.
the Canon is not amused.
do you want to tell them to do that ("type this"), in which case they need to memorize a long meaningless string with no mnemonic?
Or do you want to explain all the concepts involved in that one "simple" command (how many can you count? I'm up to 12), that is, just the basic ones required to have some small idea of what they are typing means. Oh and by the way, none of these concepts have anything to do with any task they actually want to use the computer for, they're just required to know this particular command. (explaining how to run the thing is at least another three concepts, in a world where people don't understand the conceptual difference between the installation program, what that program installs, and a link to what that program installs. Seriously. You probably take it for granted, but it seems most people can't grasp any of those concepts)
I personally think the problem is more fundamental, and everyone should be trained from birth to think like a programmer. But should we require so many external variables just because we (personally) know what they are? That's bad style.
My math teacher in highschool once explained (with examples) why 0/0 is not 0, but is instead undefined (like anything else over zero). I can't remember the examples, but you could get it to be infinity, zero, four, whatever. Anyone care to post similar?
Assuming he encoded it using a bunch of dots, which he never claimed to do. This guy is full of shit for entirely different reasons. Here is the conversation so far, let's see if you can detect where you became a jackass:
/did/ say, which was that he was doing something differently.
[Idiot] I have come up with a novel technique of encoding data which nobody has thought of before, which will get a much higher capacity than the normal and obvious way.
[Jackass] If you used the normal and obvious way of encoding data there's no way you could store that much, so you must be lying.
Oh look, it was the first thing out of your mouth.
He is an idiot because: He didnt even hint at anything he could be doing differently and yet expects people to buy his story just because he said "It's different, so it works. Seriously, I'm Indian so you know I'm smart, I don't need to explain myself at all to be credible."
You are an idiot because: You ignored the one and only thing he
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