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Trump Proposes Joint 'Cyber Security Unit' With Russia, Then Quickly Backs Away From It (arstechnica.com)

In a series of tweets yesterday, President Trump proposed "an impenetrable Cyber Security unit" with Putin "so that election hacking, & many other negative things, will be guarded and safe." The news came as a shock to just about everyone who got word of it, including congressional members of his own GOP party. Less than 24 hours later, Trump decided against it, tweeting: "The fact that President Putin and I discussed a Cyber Security unit doesn't mean I think it can happen. It can't-but a ceasefire can,& did!" Ars Technica reports: "It's not the dumbest idea I have ever heard, but it's pretty close," Senator Lindsey Graham, a Republican of South Carolina, said of the plan. Senate Republican Marco Rubio of Florida tweeted that "partnering with Putin on a 'Cyber Security Unit' is akin to partnering with [Syrian President Bashar] Assad on a 'Chemical Weapons Unit."' Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin said that Trump and the Russian president decided at a meeting during a Group of 20 nations summit in Hamburg, Germany, to embark on a joint "cyber unit to make sure that there was absolutely no interference whatsoever, that they would work on cyber security together." But on Sunday, after it was clear that the plan was going nowhere, Trump took to Twitter and said no deal. That didn't stop Rep. Don Beyer, a Democrat from Virginia, from introducing on Monday an amendment to the 2017 National Defense Authorization Act that would bar a US-Russian cyber accord. He said: "Donald Trump's proposal to form a 'cyber security unit' with Putin is a terrible idea that would immediately jeopardize American cybersecurity... Trump must acknowledge that Russia interfered in the 2016 election and take strong, meaningful action to prevent it from happening again in future elections."

389 comments

  1. The mental gymnastics he displays are amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That was an even bigger flip flop than when went from, "There was no collusion" to " Collusion isn't even illegal anyway, what me worry".

    1. Re:The mental gymnastics he displays are amazing by BadTuna · · Score: 1

      It's your world. We're just living in it.

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      Your sig here!
    2. Re:The mental gymnastics he displays are amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Damn right you are. For 7.5 more years.

    3. Re:The mental gymnastics he displays are amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Its really hilarious you think hes going to be reelected. The Dems would have to pick someone as bad as Hilary again.

    4. Re:The mental gymnastics he displays are amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you saying the dems aren't that stupid? heh.

    5. Re:The mental gymnastics he displays are amazing by gnick · · Score: 1

      I can't look right now (I'm at work), but last time I checked the bookies DJT was odds-on being out before 4 years. $10 would win you $21 if he went the whole 4 years, but $10 would only win you $16 if he left office due to resignation or was impeachment.

      I don't recall seeing odds on going 8, but I'm sure they were there.

      --
      He's getting rather old, but he's a good mouse.
    6. Re:The mental gymnastics he displays are amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Which do you put more faith in? A bookie or the leader of the free world?

      Hint: It's not the bookie.

    7. Re:The mental gymnastics he displays are amazing by gnick · · Score: 1

      I put more faith in a bookie making money than DJT following through on his 4-year commitment. I predict we'll see him declare victory and resign.

      --
      He's getting rather old, but he's a good mouse.
    8. Re:The mental gymnastics he displays are amazing by aquacrayfish · · Score: 1

      When did Angela Merkel get involved in this discussion? :)

    9. Re:The mental gymnastics he displays are amazing by LifesABeach · · Score: 1

      I think it's perfect, except for Walter White to run the DEA.

    10. Re:The mental gymnastics he displays are amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can't look right now (I'm at work), but last time I checked the bookies DJT was odds-on being out before 4 years. $10 would win you $21 if he went the whole 4 years, but $10 would only win you $16 if he left office due to resignation or was impeachment.

      I don't recall seeing odds on going 8, but I'm sure they were there.

      Are they the same odds makers for election predictions in 2016?

  2. meanwhile by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    During the same election, many groups manipulated results and even swayed individual voting districts using "analytics" generated from mining everyone's private data from companies like Facebook and Google, and they are lauded for helping the government with fair elections.

    1. Re:meanwhile by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes but how many of them committed felonies such as violation of the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act in order to obtain data used to sway voters?

    2. Re:meanwhile by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      News flash, both sides were doing pretty heavy analytics in the last election. However only one side seems to have a disturbing trail of meeting with foreign powers in secret meetings and then repeated lying about the fact that the meetings had taken place, then the number of meetings and then the subject(s) of those meetings..

      https://www.theverge.com/2017/6/19/15829234/deep-root-analytics-leak-reddit-voter-targeting-gop
      https://www.forbes.com/sites/metabrown/2016/11/29/free-voter-data-helps-campaigns-gain-data-edge/#29bcb6d724eb

  3. Just lol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Our president tweets every half baked idea he has and then the rest of the government has to scramble to make sense of or defuse the tweet. It's all fuckin funny

    1. Re:Just lol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      They will handle all of our elections, yah? What you say comrade?

    2. Re:Just lol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Our president tweets every half baked idea he has and then the rest of the government has to scramble to make sense of or defuse the tweet. It's all fuckin funny

      What can we conclude from this though? Some possibilities.
      1. He really believed it was a good idea when he proposed it. I find that unlikely, but if he believed it was a good idea for even a half of a second, then he is too mentally unfit to be president. It's like the fox not only guarding the hen house, but actually architecture it to have multiple back doors keyed to the fox, including an automated slaughter-yard.
      2. He doesn't care about truth. He just wants to take every effort to legitimize his win by deligitimize anything that might be linked to him not winning fairly. People say on tv that Russia didn't change the result of the election, but that is bullshit. All that facebook and similar fake news was bound to change votes and the victory was not by that large a percentage, so the results did change, and were possibly enough to change the ultimate victor. Also, everyone had incomplete information last November. It is quite fair to say if the election was held today the outcome would likely have been different. In short even if you buy that Trump would have won without Russian help, you can't argue that the voters knowing that Trump's people were openly seeking intelligence from Russia on Clinton wouldn't have mattered.
      3. This is the usual dead cat tactic. It is possible, but sometimes I think mental illness is more likely.
      4. He is trying to avoid falling off the bull and he knows he can't afford to make a killer like Putin an enemy. He figures if this con fails, it may ruin him and his family and at the end of the day he doesn't give a damn about anything else.
      5. Putin may even be blackmailing trump and Trump is doing what he can to accomplish Putin's goals to avoid the blackmail being revealed.

      My own guess it is primarily the last two. If he quits he may be ruined, unless he can successfully blame it on someone, and, well, do you really think Trump is so honest that Russian intelligence can't dig up some dirty laundry?

    3. Re:Just lol by G-forze · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I find that unlikely, but if he believed it was a good idea for even a half of a second, then he is too mentally unfit to be president.

      I think this has already been established.

      Putin may even be blackmailing trump and Trump is doing what he can to accomplish Putin's goals to avoid the blackmail being revealed.

      Everything that Trump does is motivated by growing his and his family's wealth. Russian banks gave loans to Trump, and that's why he's being so friendly towards Russia. Qatar did not agree to a loan, and look what happened to them.

      --
      "There's someone in my head but it's not me." - Pink Floyd, Dark Side of the Moon
    4. Re:Just lol by jandersen · · Score: 4, Insightful

      A bit like the Pythia at the temple of Apollo, who would generally speak gibberish, that her priests would then interpret. I don't know if it is funny, but perhaps it will be if we live long enough. But we are only about half a year into his precidency, and already Honey Monster is rushing towards a military confrontation with the beached whale in North Korea. I mean, think about that; the Chinese have since the Korea War, kept NK as a buffer between themselves and America's vassal state in the south, and they are increasingly assertive about their territorial aspirations. Will they just sit quietly by while Trump sends troops into NK, provoking them to use whatever nuclear weapons they have and escalating from there? Hardly - I doubt they are all that keen on Kim's perverse regime, but they definitely don't want American expansion in the region, and they do have an alliance with NK, which gives them a legitimate excuse to join the war. North Korea may be easy enough to flatten, but China isn't. The US may have enough weaponry to convert China to a slag heap, but not before they have sent their own missiles on the way - and they do have enough of those, without a doubt.

    5. Re:Just lol by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      While it's funny, imagine other scenarios with other leaders. People are always hanging on leader's words. Kim Jong Un always followed by generals holding notebook and pencil, ready to write down any words of wisdom. Turkmenistan, where the president for life (now dead) renamed all the months of the year. Imagine an absolute ruler a thousand years ago, maybe senile, maybe mad, everyone jumping at every word and taking it seriously.

      Anyway, some perspective. No matter how crazy Trump seems, it's relatively mild.

    6. Re:Just lol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not to mention that any conflict with China would tank both of our economies.

    7. Re:Just lol by l0n3s0m3phr34k · · Score: 1

      If only we could explain Trumps "stream of consciousness" style Twitter-ship because his office was sitting directly above ethylene vents. Almost every thought that goes through Trump's head also comes out on Twitter

      Instead of some joint "cyber security unit", we might want to have some type of "red phone" system instead. Maybe a "blue" or "green" phone. My idea is to at least have some high-level notification system when a nation-state detects some major outbreak; like when the recent DNS DDOS happened. While existing security publishing systems seem to do that job, if there is ever an accidental release of some MAD-level tools it would be good to be able to "pick up the phone" and let governmental leaders know ASAP.

    8. Re:Just lol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Like Reagan on steroids.

    9. Re:Just lol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hillary practically declared war on Russia while campaigning. North Korea is a pipsqueak by comparison - I'll take increased tension with NK over the 2nd most powerful military on the planet any day of the week (and twice on Sunday).

      Trying to distract from the discussion topic by throwing another assumption from the right? Very familiar tactic.

    10. Re:Just lol by PrimaryConsult · · Score: 0

      Really, Troll+Flamebait? More like uncomfortable truth. Here's a good writeup from a liberal source no less: Clinton has now made Democrats the anti-Russia party, and that was 30 seconds of Google searching. Anyone who actually watched her speeches would tell you the same. Judging by an AC comment shortly after a downmod you're one of the Hillary shills trying their hand at revisionist history. It is a relevant comment because the main parties barfed up two terrible choices. Hillary's anti-Russia rhetoric combined with the fact that she is competent made her a much more dangerous choice than Trump. If Hillary set her mind on something truly dangerous she could pull it off. Trump wouldn't get past first base (proof: so far on most of his initiatives, he's been striking out more often than not).

      For the record I voted third party. We had a 75% chance of intentional war and a 50/50 chance of stumbling into one, neither looked good. Both third parties would have had no chance of getting us into a war.

    11. Re:Just lol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Troll+Flamebait because Hillary lost, GET OVER IT!

    12. Re:Just lol by iMadeGhostzilla · · Score: 1

      I don't think Trump would make a decision on involvement with NK that would go against what Mattis and a few others at the top who are knowledgeable enough advise.

      Personally I don't think anything will happen other than the US having to pay for nuclear submarines being stationed nearby indefinitely so NK knows what happen if they attack first.

  4. Re:At least he has ideas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Even if they're stupid, at least he's coming up with some ideas ...

    Now that's putting a positive spin on things.

  5. Re: Why is this a dumb idea really?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    You dumbass

    it's because of the same reasons an agreement with china to stop industrial espionage would be useless or the same reason an agreement with dubai to stop exploitation of Indians would be useless or the same reason an agreement with you to stop posting ignorant shit would be useless... ... both sides have to comply

  6. Fake republicans are fake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    At least democrats are loud and proud of their batshit dumbass crazitude. RINO bitches like Rubio and Graham are little coward pussies who need to shut the fuck up and get the fuck out of the way to let real men run this country again.

    1. Re:Fake republicans are fake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're a moron.

    2. Re:Fake republicans are fake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good one.

    3. Re:Fake republicans are fake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sweet retort bruh

  7. Re: Why is this a dumb idea really?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'd like to think you're not this fucking dumb. But I've read your post and you've proved me wrong. Fuck off and die Trump lover.

  8. Re: SOROS losers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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  9. Re:Why is this a dumb idea really?? by buss_error · · Score: 4, Insightful

    But why is this a bad idea?

    .

    Would you form a joint intelligence sharing with them? Because this is sort of like forming a joint intelligence unit. If you've every dealt with operational security, you'd know why this isn't likely to work well. At best, it's reaching your unprotected arm into a snake pit every 15 minutes to count the snakes. While we may be able to get some small benefit, it would come at too high a cost in intelligence assets. For one thing, it would let them know how we conduct security, for a second, who is involved. And in intelligence, half or more of the battle is knowing who and how.

    And I'll simply point out who leaked emails when, and where, as to the pure intentions of the Russian government.

    --
    Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.
  10. Re: Why is this a dumb idea really?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you don't know why this is a dumb idea really, you must be as dumb as Donald. Others can give reasons if they like, I'll stick to the rapid-response abuse which is all your post deserves.

  11. Invite Jeffrey Dahmer to join neighborhood watch.. by bit+trollent · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is like inviting Jeffrey Dahmer to join your neighborhood watch after he kills your neighbors.

    I know that the right wing has bought into Trump's treasonous collusion with Russia, but this is ridiculous.

    This is a tech website. Do you actually mean to tell me you would willingly put a hacker that maliciously attacked your country on our cyber security team?

  12. Re:Why is this a dumb idea really?? by Seth+Morabito · · Score: 1

    Under a competent administration, it likely would not be a terrible idea. Under this administration, and under these circumstances, however, it's nothing more than a distraction.

  13. Treason is an idea afterall... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I guess if we don't distinguish between good and bad ideas, incompetent treason is just as valid an idea as skillful patriotism...

    1. Re:Treason is an idea afterall... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >Treason

      I get that "treason" is a really fun word to say and all, but it does have a legal definition. You should read it sometime. In fact it's right there in the constitution, you don't even need law.cornell.edu or anything.

    2. Re:Treason is an idea afterall... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      There is a picture of Donald Trump in the dictionary, right next to the word "Treason"

      Donald Trump and many members of his administration and campaign are known traitors. They colluded with Russia's attack on our country.

      You keep tip-toeing around the definition of treason while not actually providing it. This is because you know you are supporting a treasonous Russian puppet.

      You support known traitors like Donald Trump and his crime family, because you are a traitor yourself.

    3. Re:Treason is an idea afterall... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mr McCarthy? Is that you?

    4. Re:Treason is an idea afterall... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Guess you're too lazy to even google the constitution then. Article 3, Section 3: "Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort."

      Also, side note, attacking Hillary Clinton isn't attacking "the country" or "democracy" or "freedom" or whatever else.

    5. Re:Treason is an idea afterall... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      US Constitution, Article III, Section 3:
      Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.
      The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.

      U.S. Federal Code, Title 18, Part I, Chapter 115, 2381:
      Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

    6. Re: Treason is an idea afterall... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Way to quote shit bro. Great solid response

    7. Re: Treason is an idea afterall... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know it wasn't quite "RUSSIARUSSIATREASONRUSSIATRAITORRUSSIA!!", but I gave it my best shot.

    8. Re: Treason is an idea afterall... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Two words. Firing squad.

    9. Re: Treason is an idea afterall... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For a second there I thought you might be inciting violence, but you didn't post a wrestling gif so it's all good.

    10. Re:Treason is an idea afterall... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort

      So adhering to their Enemies but receiving Aid and Comfort from them isn't treason you say? ;)

      Also, side note, attacking Hillary Clinton isn't ...

      The question here is whether Trump or his handlers actively colluded with a foreign power to bring about an election outcome favorable to that foreign, and by virtue of such interference if nothing else, not completely non-hostile power.

      While it seems clear that Russia intervened in the US election, establishing that there was any active collusion between Team Trump and the Russian government is altogether a different proposition. Still, you can understand that those who take such collusion as given --and for some political allegiance weighs more heavily than evidence --would see Trump, by being adhered to an enemy state, literally as a traitor.

    11. Re: Treason is an idea afterall... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      If that's the sum of the law, Trump is not guilty of treason. He and his minions are guilty of seeking and using dirt on Mrs Clinton's campaign, not caring whether the source was a foreign power whose aim was to influence the US election. Any qualms which reached Trump's consciousness would have been swamped by the overwhelming desire of his immense, fragile ego to win. Even now he can't admit that Putin had any influence as that would diminish his huge victory. Such negligence may not amount to a crime but it's pretty sad and for Trump's maladministration, the new normal.

    12. Re: Treason is an idea afterall... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not the A.C. above.

      Suck my dick, traitor.

    13. Re: Treason is an idea afterall... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >Fine, Trump did nothing wrong. But It's been 3 minutes since I last posted a bitter rant about Trump anywhere so here's a solid paragraph of whining and childish insults

    14. Re:Treason is an idea afterall... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      So adhering to their Enemies but receiving Aid and Comfort from them isn't treason you say? ;)

      So we're using "briefly occupying the same room as someone who knows someone who knows someone who knows someone who...who knows someone in the Russian government" as the legal definition of "adhering to the enemy" or "collusion" or whatever else? Good luck with that Mr. Internet Lawyer. Also, Russia isn't an "enemy" anymore, as Obama famously pointed out to Romney. And as we saw the last few days this is even more true under Trump. Being a personal enemy of Hillary Clinton is not equivalent to being an enemy of the United States.

      (Hey, maybe in a few months they'll get desperate enough to try that angle: "Trump is an enemy of America therefore Trump is guilty of treason for giving aid and comfort to himself." They've hit "Let's impeach him for tweeting!" faster than I thought they would, and presumably there'll be a few more stops after that on the crazy train before they're left with nothing but openly trying to provoke an assassination or foreign invasion.)

    15. Re:Treason is an idea afterall... by jbengt · · Score: 2, Informative

      So we're using "briefly occupying the same room as someone who knows someone who knows someone who knows someone who...who knows someone in the Russian government" as the legal definition of "adhering to the enemy" or "collusion" or whatever else?

      No. But if you believe that's all that happened, perhaps you'd be interested in buying this bridge I have.

    16. Re:Treason is an idea afterall... by JoshuaZ · · Score: 3, Informative
      I assign a more than 50% chance that Donald Trump or people close to him have engaged in criminal acts related to collusion with Russia to deliberately interfere in US elections by illegal means. RICO would be one of a number of potential statutes that are relevant. However, that's not "treason." Treason is defined in Article III, Section 3 of the US Constitution https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_Three_of_the_United_States_Constitution :

      Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.

      Since the US has active trade and diplomatic relations with Russia, it is extremely hard to call interacting with them treason. More generally, it is a bad idea to label people are "traitors" because they disagree with you on who a traitor is. The recursion here gets very bad very fast.

    17. Re:Treason is an idea afterall... by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Since the US has active trade and diplomatic relations with Russia

      Russia and Putin aren't the same entity, though some may think otherwise.

      --
      Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
    18. Re: Treason is an idea afterall... by RazorSharp · · Score: 1

      While I agree that Trump's collusion with Russia is unacceptable, I feel your characterization is hyperbolic. This makes it easier for Trump and his supporters to dismiss criticism when the criticism is so exaggerated. I don't know if I'd call it treasonous--but they're certainly not the actions of a man fit to lead this country.

      --
      "From the depths of my skeptical and rationalist soul, I ask the Lord to protect me from California touchie-feeliedom."
    19. Re:Treason is an idea afterall... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Very prescient of you. Just hours after your post DJTjr releases emails proving he went to the meeting expecting help from the russian government.

      And the investigation still has miles more to go.

      Like, for instance, the amazing coincidence that just a couple of days after this meeting Russia begins dumping some of the emails they hacked.

    20. Re: Treason is an idea afterall... by KGIII · · Score: 1

      How the fuck is that informative? Russia, as much as you may want them to be, is not actually a formal enemy. They weren't even a formal enemy during the Cold War. That's why use were charged with Espionage and not Treason.

      --
      "So long and thanks for all the fish."
    21. Re: Treason is an idea afterall... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "If that's the sum of the law, Trump is not guilty of treason" does not imply "Fine, Trump did nothing wrong"

    22. Re:Treason is an idea afterall... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So we're using "briefly occupying the same room as someone who knows someone who knows someone who knows someone who...who knows someone in the Russian government" as the legal definition of "adhering to the enemy" or "collusion" or whatever else?

      No more like the opposite. Read what I actually wrote:

      While it seems clear that Russia intervened in the US election, establishing that there was any active collusion between Team Trump and the Russian government is altogether a different proposition. Still, you can understand that those who take such collusion as given --and for some political allegiance weighs more heavily than evidence --would see Trump, by being adhered to an enemy state, literally as a traitor.

      Also, Russia isn't an "enemy" anymore

      Dream on.

    23. Re:Treason is an idea afterall... by lsatenstein · · Score: 1

      There is a picture of Donald Trump in the dictionary, right next to the word "Treason"

      Donald Trump and many members of his administration and campaign are known traitors. They colluded with Russia's attack on our country.

      You keep tip-toeing around the definition of treason while not actually providing it. This is because you know you are supporting a treasonous Russian puppet.

      You support known traitors like Donald Trump and his crime family, because you are a traitor yourself.

      Treason occurs only when you give away secrets or favours. I don't think that happened. Un-ethical practices yes.

      --
      Leslie Satenstein Montreal Quebec Canada
  14. Trumps tweets by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Trump's July 9th tweets, for those who care

    The G 20 Summit was a great success for the U.S. - Explained that the U.S. must fix the many bad trade deals it has made. Will get done!
    I strongly pressed President Putin twice about Russian meddling in our election. He vehemently denied it. I've already given my opinion..... ...We negotiated a ceasefire in parts of Syria which will save lives. Now it is time to move forward in working constructively with Russia!
    Putin & I discussed forming an impenetrable Cyber Security unit so that election hacking, & many other negative things, will be guarded.. ...and safe. Questions were asked about why the CIA & FBI had to ask the DNC 13 times for their SERVER, and were rejected, still don't.... ...have it. Fake News said 17 intel agencies when actually 4 (had to apologize). Why did Obama do NOTHING when he had info before election?
    Sanctions were not discussed at my meeting with President Putin. Nothing will be done until the Ukrainian & Syrian problems are solved!

    MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!
    President Trump Attends G20 Summit in Hamburg, Germany

    For years, even as a "civilian," I listened as Republicans pushed the Repeal and Replace of ObamaCare. Now they finally have their chance!
    Syrian ceasefire seems to be holding. Many lives can be saved. Came out of meeting. Good!
    The fact that President Putin and I discussed a Cyber Security unit doesn't mean I think it can happen. It can't-but a ceasefire can,& did!

  15. Re:Why is this a dumb idea really?? by dbIII · · Score: 5, Insightful

    But why is this a bad idea?

    And thus the "right" shows that King comes before country and George Washington can go fuck himself in their eyes.
    You know why it's a bad idea, you are just pretending that it isn't because you want to continue to follow Dear Leader.

  16. trump by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Jesus Christ what a putz.

  17. Re:Why is this a dumb idea really?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Were they ever more than merely "useful idiots"?

    Who's the useful idiot now?

  18. Re: SOROS losers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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  19. Trump is a fucking moron, let's face it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    His own son is a traitor DIRECTLY and he's pretending it never happened lol. What a fucking MORON. Impeach, firing squad, and move on.

  20. Russia: Our friend and master by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you don't know why this is a dumb idea really, you must be as dumb as Donald.

    And you obviously lack creative thinking skills. Start thinking outside the box!

    We could protect democracy from virulent partisanship by having the Russians run our elections; foster world peace by giving the Russians the nuclear codes; ... really the only limit here is Moscow Don's imagination.

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      Apk sucks on my DAMN balls all night every night, that's a good hosting program in my view

  22. Re: Come On by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Man, you don't know shit. You claim to have large org infosec background, but nothing you post indicates that

  23. Re:Why is this a dumb idea really?? by AHuxley · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The US and the Soviet Union and now Russia have worked together on a few things.
    Moscow–Washington hotline https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...–Washington_hotline
    Environmental Modification Convention https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
    Apollo–Soyuz Test Project https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...–Soyuz_Test_Project
    Treaty on Open Skies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
    Chemical Weapons Convention https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
    The Kennedy-Khruschev Exchanges http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20t...
    RD-180 engine imports https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    As for cyber security? Why not? Might stop some spam and other evil-doers.

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  24. Re:Why is this a dumb idea really?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Because that is not what he suggested. He said, "Putin & I discussed forming an impenetrable Cyber Security unit so that election hacking, & many other negative things, will be guarded.."

    Why would the head of a government create a cyber security unit directly with another country that has attempted and sometimes succeeded at hacking that government? One of them has no military experience, no political experience. His experience is with selling his name and filing for bankruptcies with other people's money. The other one did 16 years of military service in the KGB, became Director of the FSB (successor to the KGB), became Secretary of the Security Council of Russia, started his own political movement (All Russia's People's Front) and held multiple terms as prime minister and president.

  25. It was done w/ Kevin Mitnick & others... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: Know WHO makes the best defenders? The most skilled OFFENDERS (this IS my racket, the defense side & was my job on several levels (code, network defense etc.) for decades)).

    APK

    P.S.=> It happens & Mitnick? He wasn't even very good to be straight up about it. Today's 'hacker/cracker'? WORLDS above his level... apk

  26. So Prezidental by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    His supporters are so proud! MAGA!

  27. LOL! by Narcocide · · Score: 2

    Yes, please Mr. Putin. The CIA, the FBI, and the NSA collectively can't seem to muster the resources to secure a copy of Windows. Can you please send us some ex-KGB experts to help with the leaks?

  28. Only 1 problem w/ your statement? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: You have NO balls, unidentifiable trolling beta SOROS LOSER worm!

    APK

    P.S.=> You prove it constantly stalking me by UNIDENTIFIABLE trolling anonymous worm posts, lol... apk

  29. Re:SOROS losers? by PopeRatzo · · Score: 5, Funny

    I see a LOT of bogus comments as usual from "the SOROS losers" so, a question (as I heard he pays you): HOW MUCH ARE YOU GETTING PAID?

    I get $2800/month, plus expenses, health care (includes vision and dental) and two weeks paid vacation. Sometimes, Mr Soros will put a little something extra in my pay envelope when I really make the AC trolls on Slashdot go wild and piss themselves in impotent fury and post in caps.

    But I've got to tell you, they refuse to match my 401k contributions. Soros can be very stingy, but you know how those people are. And you ACs know exactly who I mean, amirite?

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  30. Look a squirrel! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Then how's this ...

    Just boring old deflection. Very ho hum I'm afraid, not a positive spin at all.

    Tu quoque anyone?

    1. Re:Look a squirrel! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'll go ahead and let you have the last word (the reply after this one of course) so you can think you won. I'm too tired for this idiocy right now.

    2. Re:Look a squirrel! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'll go ahead and let you have the last word ...

      Well thanks. I'll take up the offer, but there's nothing more of substance to say. Your entirely impertinent interjection was a canonical example of the tu quoque fallacy. End of story.

  31. Putin got a big laugh at Trump on this one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And probably was saying, "we were soo very close to telling Mr Trump, 'all your bases are belong to us'. ". LOL

  32. Re: At least he has ideas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Being obstructionists to Trump is the duty of all Americans.

  33. Re:Why is this a dumb idea really?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    russia is a "trigger" for the "left".. just the "left", huh?

    go read a history book you dumb fuck.

  34. Re:Come On by AC-x · · Score: 2

    And we would let them know any of that why and how again??? Come on, think it through. You don't need to let on to any of that to gain some benefit from both sides.

    So, if you're not sharing any information about cyber attacks, then what actual benefit is there for the other side? What would the point be of having a joint cyber security unit if there's no "joint" about it?

  35. Re:Why is this a dumb idea really?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You seem to be using ./ by mistake, Voat is over there --------------->

  36. Trump should be enjoined from any Russian contact by JoeyRox · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Considering Trump Jr. has admitted he met with a Russian lawyer (along with Kushner) during the campaign to get dirt on Hillary in combination with the revelation in today's NYT about an email Trump Jr. received specifically saying the information he was about to be provided by the lawyer came from the Russian government, this administration should now be considered captured by a foreign hostile government and thus enjoined from any contact or decision making related to that government until Robert Mueller's investigation has been completed.

  37. Re:At least he has ideas by epyT-R · · Score: 0

    The real problem is the skyrocketing cost to begin with.. No wealth redistribution scheme is going to fix this.

  38. Re:Why is this a dumb idea really?? by AHuxley · · Score: 1

    AC re "no political experience"
    AC the same reason a person who once was a Senator has to consider the politics of a person who once was metal worker.
    Or a peanut farmer or a naval aviator or Director of Central Intelligence.
    Leaders with very different pasts meet, talk and nations work together on common issues.

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  39. It's not a word for the left by rsilvergun · · Score: 2

    it's a word for economic right wingers who are left wing on social issues. They're trying to figure out a path to victory that doesn't involve things like single payer healthcare, college for everyone and proper, continuous job training. The left calls them "Corporate Democrats". Lately we've been calling ourselves either Bernie Dems or Justice Democrats.

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    1. Re:It's not a word for the left by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No. Nooooooooooooooo. SocDems are not centrists and they do not represent sound economic policy.

      Centrists, people that support actual evidence based economic policy (Which does not include free college or no-strings-attatched free health care) are organizing under the brand neo-liberal.

      Free trade. Open borders. Federalism. Evidence based policy. International liberalism. Carbon taxes. Equality. Free speech.

      Libertarians without the dipshit gold nutters and end-the-fed morons.

      Center Democrats without the socialists weirdos.

      Neo-conservatives without the regressive, racist, bigoted social conservatives.

      Do NOT mistake Bernie's claptrap for sound economic policy. Bernie is far-left and does not represent the center. When scrambling for something that's not Trump and not far-right insanity do not mistake Bernie's socialist claptrap for good ideas.

    2. Re:It's not a word for the left by penandpaper · · Score: 1

      They're trying to figure out a path to victory that doesn't involve things like single payer healthcare, college for everyone and proper, continuous job training.

      Or they want sound economic policy with sound social policy. Here is a thought, if those ideas are universally good and you can do them while having sound economic policy, why don't blue states try it in their states? Nothing is to stop them from doing single payer or college for everyone or any other social policy you want. A lot of arguments really come down to it being forced by the federal government without being tried in the states.

      For all things I don't like about New York they are trying the college for everyone. They are trying to put their money where their mouth is. Good on them. If it works and if it is a framework that can be adopted to other states with different economies then we are well on our way to a federal initiative for college for everyone. But truth be told, we do have college for everyone, it's just really expensive. Hopefully their idea solves that problem that can be adopted by others.

  40. Let's face it.... by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...this so-called president is an idiot who is in waaaaaaaaaaaay over his head.

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    1. Re:Let's face it.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Well, yeah. That's been obvious for a while. Trump is conclusive proof the Peter principal has no upward bound.

      What's a problem, though, is thats Trump's supports don't support him for rational reasons. They've attached their identity to him and see any criticism of Trump as criticism of themselves. (For proof, look no further than any Trump supporter in this thread)

      GOP's got two big problems. How to save their asses, and how to bring their voter base down off this problem gracefully. If Trump leaves office with a shitstorm things will get ugly.

    2. Re:Let's face it.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      unfortunately he confuses the terms dictator and president, he believes he is the former and behaves as such and needs to be constantly reminded he is the later.

    3. Re:Let's face it.... by fustakrakich · · Score: 2

      Yeah well, he got everybody to forget about Bush... And remember when Nixon was the bottom of the barrel? I guess records are meant to be broken.

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      “He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
    4. Re:Let's face it.... by dohzer · · Score: 2

      ... and he also has small feet!

    5. Re:Let's face it.... by no-body · · Score: 1

      ...this so-called president is an idiot who is in waaaaaaaaaaaay over his head.

      and he keeps getting attention - does he deserve it?
      If so, why?

    6. Re:Let's face it.... by mean+pun · · Score: 1

      ...this so-called president is an idiot who is in waaaaaaaaaaaay over his head.

      and he keeps getting attention - does he deserve it? If so, why?

      Because he is the President of the United States, still a position with a lot of influence.

      Because despite his record-low approval ratings, there are still many people that support him.

      Because he is aligned with a political party that in many ways just as idiotic.

    7. Re:Let's face it.... by l0n3s0m3phr34k · · Score: 2

      I have to disagree; he is acting like a CEO, not a dictator. While those two have much in common LOL, he's not quite made it to the level of dictator yet. However, Bannon is really shaping Trump to head in that direction.

    8. Re:Let's face it.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If people wanted to "face it", they could have done that before the elections. And nominations. And primaries.

      The truth is that America wants an idiot who is in way over his head as president. He is a perfect representative.

    9. Re:Let's face it.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can't wait for the Futurama Trump head-in-a-jar.

    10. Re:Let's face it.... by citylivin · · Score: 3, Interesting

      "how to bring their voter base down off this problem gracefully. If Trump leaves office with a shitstorm things will get ugly."

      I have to disagree there. I have been watching american elections for 20 years and if there is one thing thats reliable, its that its always like 51% to 49%. Between 2% and 10% of the actual electorate is swayed by things like infidelity and war mongering. The rest just vote on party lines. I really don't think trump could ever be bad enough to seriously change that. I mean look at bush. Perhaps the most hated president in recent history and yet obama barely won, 53% to 46%. 46% of americans voted to continue down the road bush was on. And you had a great recession come in at the same time (arguably a gigantic disaster, like you are saying trump may cause) and yet they STILL didn't want to change course!

      Face it, 90% of americans are just like this. Its in their nature to support whatever side they believe in no matter what.

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    11. Re:Let's face it.... by DigiShaman · · Score: 1

      ...this so-called president is an idiot who is in waaaaaaaaaaaay over his head.

      And you should be thanking GOD for that! A POTUS that fumbles around is far less dangerous that a Clinton administration that knowingly sold, and would continue to sell, America out and it's future interests. She's a globalist! She's the embodiment of totalitarianism!!!! FFS, look at her Mao suits; she definitely doesn't hide who she really is!

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    12. Re:Let's face it.... by CanadianMacFan · · Score: 1

      The media love him because they have been getting high ratings as everyone tunes in to see this weeks screw up. It's just one big waiting for the next way his administration is going to surprise you. And they deliver on schedule.

    13. Re:Let's face it.... by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 1

      She's a globalist! She's the embodiment of totalitarianism!!!! FFS, look at her Mao suits; she definitely doesn't hide who she really is!

      I can't tell if this is an attempt at humor or a cognitive impairment...(could be both, I suppose)

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    14. Re:Let's face it.... by DigiShaman · · Score: 1

      No. Just pointing out your're fucking delusional. I'm an anti-globalist, and I'm here to fight fascism and overall totalitarianism wherever it is around the world behind the keyboard. HINT: the Antifa IS a fascist group of "brown shirts", and the DPRK is anything but democratic.

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    15. Re:Let's face it.... by no-body · · Score: 1

      Because he is the President of the United States, still a position with a lot of influence.

      ...

      Well, how did this happen? Isn't this a bug in the system and how can it be fixed?
      Seems there are two sides to it - one is the candidate and the other the voters.
      From a pure functional standpoint looking what is happening, it's a disaster and maybe a high percentage of folks voting for are clinging to the straws of hope falling down in little pieces and stick to it because the alternative of failure and proofed being wrong is too scary right now.

      Hope is a major component in politics and religion, can also be named illusion, also called mind-fuck, has very little to do with reality,

      Because he is aligned with a political party that in many ways just as idiotic.

      /quote>

      Well - hrm - 2-party system and vested interests are scared shit-less to change that because would need to bribe more ;-)

      Imagine having 5 political parties all aligned differently fighting each other and having to build coalitions with contracts what goals to set and adhere to after vote and if they don't, they can get sued and penalized.

      Would probably be chaotic but in another way probably more functional for the whole population and require major changes to laws and maybe constitution.

      So - the conundrum will go on until a majority gets tooo fed up, not a good situation either.
      Oh well....

    16. Re:Let's face it.... by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 1

      Just pointing out your're fucking delusional.

      Riiiiiight...Trump says that the body is like a battery and that exercise is bad for you, and he thinks he invented the phrase, "priming the pump", and he says that "Any negative polls are fake news", and he said that he "knows more than all the generals", but I'm the one that's delusional...got it.

      Seriously, I'd like some of what you're taking, but in a smaller dose.

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  41. Re:SOROS losers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dude from that photo of you apk put up I say you might as well get a sex change. You have no dick!

  42. Re:Why is this a dumb idea really?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    our intelligence is so leaky, does it really matter?

  43. Re: At least he has ideas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This, and it was treason when the Republicans did it.

  44. Re:Trump should be enjoined from any Russian conta by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Considering Trump Jr. has admitted he met with a Russian lawyer (along with Kushner) during the campaign to get dirt on Hillary ...

    More importantly, that particular news was "leaked" by three White House staffers at pretty much the same time, all of whom stated (unusually, for this administration) they could be attributed as White House staffers... meaning it was an intentional leak, and was likely an attempt to get ahead of something even more damaging that may be coming out soon.

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  45. Re:At least he has ideas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nothing has refreshed my soul so much as the bitter tears of Hillary supporters on election night. I love reviewing highlights of that evening from time to time, and it is like a trip to the spa. The sobs, despair, agony, and pain of the Hillary whack jobs are like a drink of cool water on hot day, satisfying and envigorating.

  46. Re: What a bullshitter... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dude, settle down. And also, the part of your security experience where modems made noises is definitely not relevant.

  47. The Russian government can't cop to a lower charge by bit+trollent · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The Russian government is not some guy that can be appealed to with leniency in criminal cases.

    Russia is a hostile foreign adversary who has attacked us and has an ongoing cyberwarfare campaign against the United States.

    It is idiotic to partner cyber-warfare defense with the very entity which is currently attacking you. We have allies like Israel and Germany. Why would we partner with our adversaries who are currently attacking us?

    Trump's treasonous crime spree has gone on long enough. The Russian government is not your friend, even if it is as bigoted and anti-American as you are!

  48. Re:Why is this a dumb idea really?? by MillionthMonkey · · Score: 2

    In certain respects the interests of Russia and the U.S. as world super-powers are aligned, and cyber-security is one of those areas.

    Um, no it isn't.

  49. Dummschwätzer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    that's what Trump is. He is just a babbling idiot who has learned that people will believe and buy anything as long as you say what they like to hear.

  50. Re:Come On by SlovakWakko · · Score: 0

    Ah, a voice of reason in a swamp of madness. I agree with you, both the U.S. and Russia could gain a lot by sharing info on cyber threats and maybe even by jointly developing defences agains other actors. A lot of people nowadays seem to forget that Russia is by far not the biggest cybersecurity threat to the U.S. There's NK and China, which are a lot more focused on this area and do a lot more damage.

  51. Russia from an Indian's perspective by kvishalk · · Score: 0

    India has had good relations with Russia. And in last two decades with US too due to its non violence and accommodative policies ever since its independence. My thinking is that its the cold war post WW2 that makes America think Russia as an enemy, but if you look at history, Russia was never interested in doing anything against US. It was only paranoid about weapon's race, possibly based on its WW2 experience. Russia might be the right country for US to ally with, and I think Trump is right here. Ofcourse, caution is adviced, which is the case with every foreign country!

    1. Re:Russia from an Indian's perspective by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The US and Russia have been in constant conflict since WW2 with proxy battles occurring constantly since then. Iran, Paraguay, Indochina, Vietnam, Israel, Korea,Algeria, Yemen and the more recent ones of Afghanistan, Georgia, Ukraine, Syria. You could say they have really been at war for more than half a decade now through proxy battles. Both sides have so much existing propaganda and bullshit fed to the public that it is near impossible for any lasting cooperation and both sides have been equally evil in many of their endeavours to undermine and hurt the other. ISIS, The Taliban and Al Qaeda are good examples of what the constant conflict between them has produced.

    2. Re:Russia from an Indian's perspective by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As a New Zealander, I also don't see why Russian and the U.S. can't work together.

      But I guess the Dems and Reps have one thing in common - gotta have that common enemy.

    3. Re:Russia from an Indian's perspective by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nah, American doesn't think of Russia as an enemy. This time last year they were an ally. The anti-Russian rhetoric started by the Hillary campaign late in the game to try an coax older voters that spent a big chunk of their lives in the Cold War has become an emotional crutch for 53% of voters in the US. Bashing on Russia, making them out to be a big bad enemy is a way to validate their loss. It makes them feel righteous. It makes them feel good to vilify Russia.

      News agencies get more views by treating Russia like a serious threat when they have a lower national GDP than LA and no meaningful benefits to be gained except by cooperation. People get their righteous indignation high off of opinion pieces, speculation, and emotional appeals. Journalists get more money through ad revenue. Nobody, even the BBC, reports what is going on from the Russian point of view. Why would they? Pure facts and the truth don't sell. Those things mean nothing in politics and media. The whole thing is an invention.

      Look around at the posts on this story. Look at how devoid of facts and how strongly emotional most of them are. Look at how nearly all of them ignore international cooperation as even an option. For many the world is good vs evil and obviously they are always on the good side and obviously anything they don't like is perpetrated by people that are inherently evil.

    4. Re:Russia from an Indian's perspective by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fuck off H-1B chimp, go back to stealing american money from american families while you parasite still alive.

    5. Re:Russia from an Indian's perspective by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Most people in the US do not think of Russia as an ally. 30% of the population still thinks USSR is Russia. Point is, don't give them that much credit, and the answer is much more nuanced then that. US and Russia work together on some things, like the ISS. At the same time, US and Russia are at proxy wars and have been since WW2. There are many business relationships that are mutually beneficial. At the same time the two are at it in the Cyber realm, both have destroyed billions of dollars in equipment. Many private citizens in both countries see nothing wrong with the other, for many reasons. Business dealings, same favorite band, same favorite sport. Most don't care about politics. With this kind of relationship, with so many on both sides with so many different angles on every situation, it can make it very difficult for each to trust each other.

    6. Re:Russia from an Indian's perspective by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pakistan has had good relations with the US. And in last two decades with India too due to its non violence and accommodative policies ever since its independence. My thinking is that its the war post independence that makes India think Pakistan as an enemy, but if you look at history, Pakistan was never interested in doing anything against India. It was only paranoid about weapon's race, possibly based on its post-independence experience. Pakistan might be the right country for India to ally with, and I think Nawaz Sharif is right here. Ofcourse, caution is adviced, which is the case with every foreign country!

    7. Re: Russia from an Indian's perspective by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They're fucking attacking our country. What's so hard to understand?

    8. Re:Russia from an Indian's perspective by kvishalk · · Score: 0

      No wonder Trump won the election.

  52. remote viewing perspective by kvishalk · · Score: 0

    This question was asked to Douglas James Cottrell, who specialized in deep trance meditation and remote viewing. His answer was that it was more likely North Korea who had interfered. Irrespective of whether you believe in such things, North Korea clearly has the motivation and capability demonstrated by recent virus attacks.

  53. Screaming full-on hubris by dbIII · · Score: 1

    I've been on corporate computer security teams for large companies, so I know why it would work

    Seriously?
    You think intelligence work is like that?

    The lowest, newest grunt in the military has more background on the topic than an office worker.

  54. Re:Come On by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think the idea he's try to communicate is that we share "some" information, not "all", but not "nothing" either.

  55. Re:Come On by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thankfully I am libertarian and think both parties are essentially corrupt so I'm immune from both sides from such nonsense and can simply analyze an idea on technical merits.

    You're missing the forest for the trees. The key issue is actually the Magnitsky Act. Essentially, Putin offered to give Trump some dirt on the democrats that would help him win against Hillary - with the understanding that if Trump got elected then Trump would get the sanctions lifted that the USA has in place against Putins corrupt inner circle. Cyber security is a nonsense issue, the real issue is high level government corruption.

  56. Re:SOROS losers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ah, just wait until you're out of your probationary period. Then just a quick initiation and a chat with the lizard guys and you're setup for life! Don't forget you can get free food at literally any pizza place in the world just by flashing your card.

    Oh, and free tickets to the Bohemian grove! That's not in the brochure!

    Heck of a deal for little more than keeping down these poor suckers on the internet that know the real truth!

  57. Re:Invite Jeffrey Dahmer to join neighborhood watc by wardk · · Score: 1

    first intelligent post I've come across so far

  58. Re: Why is this a dumb idea really?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Street shitters migrate you.

  59. Re:Invite Jeffrey Dahmer to join neighborhood watc by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    bit trollent I see you keep another fake account sockpuppet called wardk to be your self-support. How adorable. How transparent.

  60. Re:At least he has ideas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But isn't that tweeting orange baboon mostly concentrating on reversing Obama's decisions?

  61. Trump supporters... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you voted for Trump in 2016 and still support him you're a FUCKING TRAITOR and should be PURGED from this country.

    1. Re:Trump supporters... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This traitor (in dire need of ideological purging) draws much amusement at your impotent rage. Democrats need to ween themselves off of the kool-aid. Since the 2016 election they've raised the dosage to dangerous levels.

  62. Idiot or Traitor? Both. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I secure the websites I work on, but that's besides the point.

    The only thing you have proven is that you have no idea what you are talking about in the subject you claim to have expertise with.

    You don't even address any of my points, explaining exactly why this latest treasonous plan is a bad idea. You have no response because you have no idea what you are talking about.

    You think inviting a government that is currently attacking your country into your country's info-sec operation will improve your security.. but .. Russia is currently undertaking cyberwarfare against the US and has no intention of stopping.

    Either you have no clue about information security or you are an outright traitor or like Trump a paid Russian troll.

    Fuck off, traitor.

  63. Re:Invite Jeffrey Dahmer to join neighborhood watc by MillionthMonkey · · Score: 0, Troll

    Slashdot stopped being a tech website once it got taken over by this mob of gamer Pepe heads who think we should have a fox help set up a henhouse security system.

  64. What is the hate about? by SlovakWakko · · Score: 0

    I see the discussion here has - predictably - devolved into the good old "but they took our cookies." It's disappointing, since this being /. I expected some actual cyber security experts to weigh in on the issue of how such a joint task force could work. I'm a professional (not an actual expert) and I see some potential in it and would like the really wise to say more. But apart from SuperKendall (thank you for the courage) nothing so far...
    Anyway, maybe it's because I'm from a different country (Slovakia, proud member of both the EU and NATO), but I just don't get all the indignation about the "hacked elections" and all the stubborn irrationality that comes with it. It's like playing soccer and being mad at the other team when they score. Could you please try to explain it to me (and a lot of others like me)? As I see it, and as many here see it, influencing of internal political processes abroad is a very common tool of all major players. I've seen it several times where I come from - the U.S. (via USAID and even NED) are funding several NGOs here which are very politically active and we all know that if any major political figure here starts pushing us the "wrong way", the NGOs will go after him/her with opinion pieces in major newspapers, billboard campaigns, discussion trolls (a lot more of U.S. trolls here than Russian trolls) and lately even serious protests organized over social media. It's happening all the time to the extent that it's actually a serious limitation of our freedom of speech - heavens forbid that our politicians openly criticize some actions of the U.S. or of our other western "allies." And if you freely express your negative opinion of, let's say, the U.S. involvement in the Middle East, the wrath of many anonymous debaters with paid subscriptions, a lot of time on their hands and sometimes suspiciously similar wording of arguments descends upon you. I am old enough to remember how it was here before 1989, back when we were part of the "Communist" block, and it looks to me like we're getting back to the times when having an "opposing view" to the one pushed by the mainstream media and the mentioned NGOs means being ostracized, insulted and shamed into submission. And since there are now some proposals being floated about criminalization of "fake news", it seems to me that we're getting dangerously back in time and closing on 1984, both as I remember it being here and as it is in the book. Except now it is with digital communications and Big Data analytics.
    So, when I compare the leaked e-mails to the situation here (and it's similar all around Central and Eastern Europe), I don't see what the fuss is all about. Your government uses a lot of your money to keep our governments docile and obliging, no matter what we as the actual voters think. We the People are so far OK with it because we're pragmatic and economically strong, but we resent the arrogance of it all. Now someone else gave you some selective truths and maybe influenced the way you, as voters, looked at the candidates in the "hacked election." Well, I'd be happy to trade - you keep the NGOs and the mind control, and we get access to e-mails of some of our politicians. It doesn't matter which ones, you pick - they're all corrupt to some extent.

    1. Re:What is the hate about? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I've often seen people give the "the US influences elections, too" reasoning, and I don't get it. The countries that the US meddles in are presumably not happy about it. And this comes up in (my in-person) discussions of the history of US foreign policy a lot and I've never encountered anyone who didn't denounce it as a bad idea. None of the US citizens I've talked to are in favor of the US meddling in other countries elections. The "we do it, too" excuse falls flat because the same people worried about Russia influencing the US's elections are also mad about the US influencing other countries' elections.

    2. Re:What is the hate about? by SlovakWakko · · Score: 1

      I'm not saying it's OK since the U.S. does it too - as a matter of fact, most of my post is about how I find it not OK to do something like that. It's an affront to any fan of democracy, no matter who does it. But why such hypocrisy? I don't remember half a year of whining in the MSM about the U.S. meddling abroad. If this is about the defense of democracy, then it should be defended every time. If it's about the U.S. being an exception to the rule, a country which can meddle abroad but is off-limits itself, then the U.S. need to wake up. There are no nuclear cyber weapons and nobody is off-limits.

    3. Re:What is the hate about? by l0n3s0m3phr34k · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I don't think Putin was trying to get Trump into office. I think his actual goal is destabilizing the underlying ideals of the US's democratic system itself. Trump is a symptom, not the disease itself. And it's not just the US that he is targeting, France was also a target during their most recent elections. I wouldn't be surprised if Russia's "electronic disinformation division" had a hand in the UK's Brexit campaign too.

    4. Re:What is the hate about? by camazotz · · Score: 2

      Just because it happens so egregiously in Slovakia is not a firm argument for why it should be acceptable elsewhere. If anything you're making a strong case for serious reform efforts in your own country.

    5. Re:What is the hate about? by SlovakWakko · · Score: 0

      OK, let's try to avoid any "fake news." The French connection was just this - the French themselves said that there's no trace of Russian interference: https://www.apnews.com/fc570e4... I've heard a lot of "they will surely try it" but no other concrete accusation, just the U.S. presidential election. Regarding Brexit there was a report that Russia or China "may have" tried to do something, which is in my opinion fake news by itself - anyone "may have" tried something. What we know for sure is that the current UK Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs Boris Johnson lied - "spread fake news" in current lingo - about the budgetary advantages of Brexit. Do you know of any other concrete examples?

    6. Re:What is the hate about? by SlovakWakko · · Score: 1

      I think it's not acceptable anywhere. And it's not happening just in Slovakia, it's the whole of Central and Eastern Europe. Hungary has a serious problem with Soros' NGOs, it made news recently multiple times. I have several Czech friends who say it's the same there. I know the NGOs practically rule Serbia, Montenegro, Macedonia, Albania, that was also in the news in the last couple of years. I think the whole of Europe is ripe for some democracy-strengthening reforms regarding external financing of politically active organizations...

    7. Re:What is the hate about? by roman_mir · · Score: 0

      It worked out great so far, I really hope that the disease that is democracy is destabilized. However you are 100% wrong about this: there is no such thing as the 'underlying ideals of the US democratic system'.

      USA has no underlying democratic ideas nor should it have. USA Constitution doesn't mention anything about any democracy at all. USA was established a Republic, democracy as well as any form of aristocracy or dictatorship are against the principles that USA was actually established upon. You couldn't keep the Republic of-course.

  65. I thought you could not get worse than by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not being able to spell potato but I was wrong.

  66. Re:And in the meantime... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Can't tell if stupid or Trump supporter.

  67. Re: At least he has ideas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Or we could just get rid of medical insurance and pay the doctors, nurses, and hospitals directly via the government... but like whatever, helping people is fucked and I don't need anything from society. I made the device I'm typing this with metal I mined, refined, followed by teaching myself with no books or teachers how to transform and program to connect to slashdot... let alone the lack of help I got getting myself outta that fucking womb and then walked out of the hospital got a job and earned the tools to start this process.

    You stupid fucking twat.

  68. Re:What makes you an authority fake name? by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

    HEY! Antifa people do things. like complain, and protest.. pretty much any excuse to not work..

  69. Re:What makes you an authority fake name? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What are you doing, other than serving as Vladimir Putin's cock puppet?

  70. Re: At least he has ideas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The rest of the world was in tears too... Of laughter. Honestly, how fucking stupid do you have to be to vote a retard of this magnitude into office. It is hilarious!
    Good luck!

  71. Re:Trump should be enjoined from any Russian conta by quantaman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'd be more concerned that there WAS dirt to get on Hillary than who it came from.

    In this case, according to Trump Jr. at least, there was no dirt, it was a dead end.

    Who cares who gave it to them?

    The FBI, seeking material assistance from a foreign government for a political campaign is illegal. If Trump Jr. is telling the truth then he broke the law.

    The whole "Russia" thing continues to be a giant nothingburger than the left won't stop trying to push. No one cares.

    The whole "Russia" thing is steadily getting worse. Though in one sense this news is slightly good news for Trump. The fact they sought out this lawyer in an effect to conspire with the Russian government suggests that at that time there were not (yet?) conspiring with the Russian government (otherwise why not ask their FSB contact directly?).

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  72. Re:It was done w/ Kevin Mitnick & others... ap by quantaman · · Score: 3, Insightful

    See subject: Know WHO makes the best defenders? The most skilled OFFENDERS (this IS my racket, the defense side & was my job on several levels (code, network defense etc.) for decades)).

    APK

    P.S.=> It happens & Mitnick? He wasn't even very good to be straight up about it. Today's 'hacker/cracker'? WORLDS above his level... apk

    Those were done AFTER they switched sides.

    A company who uses a reformed black-hat hacker to penetration test their network is daring and innovative.

    A company who uses an active black-hat hacker to penetration test their network is bloody moronic.

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    I stole this Sig
  73. Re:And in the meantime... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why not both?

  74. LOL - The US hacks NOBODY? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've done work for the MIILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX (code & networks - Lockheed Martin) - have you? Good INTEL=POWER - & you can ferret out if you're being fed bullshit pretty fast (so you know) but when it's GOOD SOLID INTEL? It's invaluable.

    As far as my subject: I know, directly, 1st hand they do while in the employ of their subcontractors.

    APK

    P.S.=> Clue: In the political game, there are NO permanent sides OR allies & THE USA, though I don't like saying it, is ONE OF THE WORST OFFENDERS (yes, in offensive hacking/cracking).

    Get that & get it FAST (it IS how it works).

    Only convenient TEMPORARY allies. Right now, & I know for a fact, Russia's NOT OUR ENEMY (not as bad as China, Korea, or Saudi Arabia) & can be a GREAT ally on this very front (the topic, computer security) - I've worked w/ their people side by side in coding AND security, they're good (better than most around here, that's certain)... apk

    1. Re: LOL - The US hacks NOBODY? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How's the weather in Moscow, comrade?

  75. Nobody cares by nospam007 · · Score: 0

    Who cares about what Dementia Don proposes?
    He has no clue.
    And why on earth is that news for nerds?

    1. Re:Nobody cares by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you are quite dense.
      he is the elected president and has proposed to enter a sharing cybersecurity plan with Russia, a country who is trying to undermine and destroy the USA. That's news for nerds, and many people do care.

  76. Initiative by Maritz · · Score: 1

    He's just showing initiative on getting re-elected. Might as well get the assisting apparatus in place now so it has plenty of time to dig dirt on his political enemies. Vlad can't quite understand why he doesn't just kill all the hostile reporters like he did.

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  77. Cartoon from a Dutch Newspaper about this: by mean+pun · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Yes, the rest of the world is watching as well. In horrified amusement: http://www.volkskrant.nl/foto/...

    1. Re:Cartoon from a Dutch Newspaper about this: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Got a direct link to an image file? (That fucking EU cookie law is ridiculous.)

    2. Re:Cartoon from a Dutch Newspaper about this: by BorisAmmerlaan · · Score: 1

      (That fucking EU cookie law is ridiculous.)

      No it's not. Companies willfully implementing it in the most annoying way is. If the cookies are necessary for the site to work, they do not have to ask permission. The problem is that they insist on tracking your every move even though they have no need to.

    3. Re:Cartoon from a Dutch Newspaper about this: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Here you go: https://i.imgur.com/Xy4sG3w.jpg

  78. Taking the bait by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Medical insurance has nothing to do with the suggestion that you open up your cyber security expertise to the hostile party launching cyber attacks against you. That suggestion is indefensible ... so let's change the subject by engaging someone's knee-jerk reaction.

    "It's not the dumbest idea I have ever heard, but it's pretty close."

  79. Re:Come On by monkease · · Score: 1

    There's NK and China, which are a lot more focused on this area and do a lot more damage.

    Well, it'd kind of trump everything NK & China have allegedly done (lots of secret stealing on China's part, and, um, leaking of the Seth Rogan vehicle The Interview by NK) if Russia contributed to altering a US presidential election don'cha think?

    Or wait, did it turn out NK did the Playstation Network hacks too? I kind of stopped following those.

  80. Re:Invite Jeffrey Dahmer to join neighborhood watc by QRDeNameland · · Score: 1

    A 6-digit UID user keeping a 4-digit UID sock puppet account. Now that's some dedicated trolling! lol

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  81. Why do you hate democracy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Donald Trump and many members of his administration and campaign are known traitors. They colluded with Russia's attack on our country.

    Don't be ridiculous, it's not treason! The President has simply reached the considered conclusion that in today' s complex world, the US would fare better as a vassal state of Russia. That's called "looking after the interests of the People."

  82. Re: At least he has ideas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Communism is fucking retarded. Sorry to burst your bubble.

    Source: central management of resources is always wasteful and inefficient. The winners won for a reason. For like a million reasons.

    Marx wasn't even working class. He was just a hypocrite.

  83. And, in the meantime, this is happening by Lisandro · · Score: 2
  84. Re:Invite Jeffrey Dahmer to join neighborhood watc by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It may be other way around so it doesn't matter. Everyone knows it happens here like crazy. You are most likely yet another of his fake names.

  85. Pope FATZO seeing how YOU look? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: You can use all the $ you can get your FAT disgusting mutant hands on https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QqAn6jRY748/UP906Z4OONI/AAAAAAAAMBw/4UJL1sLYx2E/s1600/Gun+Nut+Article+for+Bell+of+Lost+Souls2.jpg/

    * Yes, that's right - I know what you look like (disgusting) & I also KNOW you have to use a FAKE NAME for your FAKE LIFE (see below for MORE PROOF of that too) fatass... lol!

    WHAT A FUCKING "UGLOID", lol... SEEING YOU HAVE TO DOWNMOD HIDE THIS TRUTH? Priceless https://politics.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10845433&cid=54783611/ hahahaha!

    APK

    P.S.=> Just because life dealt you shit genetics doesn't mean you being pissed is going to take us down to "your kind's" level (lowest of the low, ugh) & about getting "p.o.'d"? I did a number on YOU there easily, here (lol) https://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=5335191&cid=47335931/ Mr. NOT a PhD + CERTAINLY NO ENGLISH TEACHER (no f'ing way, you're @ best/most? Another SELF-PUBLISHED STOOGE chump)... apk

  86. Re:Come On by buss_error · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A corporate security team won't send assassins to inject your most valuable people with ricin pellets. Or strew Strontium 147 around their house. Or seduce their daughter. Or rape/sodomize your son. The Russians have. The Soviets, back in the day, simply preferred to kill them. So, in a measure, that's an advancement of sorts.

    But sure, lets blame Russia for Hillary / the DNC being so contemptibly corrupt that leaking emails from them sank a presidential canaanite against a guy as easily beaten as Trump.

    You seem to think I thought HRC was a good choice. I do and did not. Simply a better choice than President Trump. And I reviewed the postfix configuration posted to reddit thought to be HRC's server. It wasn't perfect, but I didn't see any glaring errors either. Did you review it? Do you even know postfix?

    You are just another tool who has lost his functioning analytical mind to sheer raw hatred of Trump

    I will admit that he is not as bad as I thought he could be. Which is not to say in any way I think President Trump is good. Simply that we have as yet had the NKPR lob a nuke on any major city. But I will remind you that one need not use a ICBM to deliver a warhead. UPS will do. Or folks with impeccably forged documents. I will remind you that the $50 and $100 dollar bill are the most difficult to forge documents, yet the NKPR forges them to the point the the Treasury Department and the Secret Service tag them as "Super Forgeries" and millions of them pass every day. Yet most of President Trump's supporters are focused on those with brown skin as a serious threat.

    Fear and xenophobia are the stock and trade of the Republican party. Also, it would seem, extreme stupidity though I prefer to think of it as focused on issue I am not concerned about. If I absolutely loathed a policy like Obama Care for the past seven and a half years, I surely would have another to replace it once my party had secured the majority in the House and Senate. Yet, 150+ days into a majority house, senate, and white house, and soon Supreme court, I don't see anything at all being done.

    I understand that you dislike the policy. I get that. I am, very unfortunately headed down hill from personal medical issues. I don't expect to be here next year. Such is the luck of life. I cannot get SSI Disability by law because I did not pay into SSI for over a decade. And because I left the job with a private policy before the 30 years it takes to "vest", I can't draw from it either. So my choice is to die at my desk, or starve. Largely because of public service.

    So be it.

    I did my damn level best for you, and your children. What I got was spit on, called a pig in the trough, and had my car and home vandalized and death threats and now I face declining heath because to give me anything is "feeding the pigs at the trough."

    I get that. It's not how I treat people, but standards differ.

    Yet you call me names when I did no such to you, and still do not. I understand you are unhappy with the status quo. I am too. But I don't let that keep me from trying to be kind. We are not enemies. We have a difference of opinion, a difference of standards. Let me tell you how I try to live. Look up my post on "Let's change the name", and try to apply it to your own stance.

    Let me leave you with this thought: Be happy. Find something in your life that gives you joy, and share it with others. Anger is simply fear turned outward. A brave man may have many fears, but that does not keep him from doing the thing that is hard; the thing he most fears. Because a brave man dies only once, but a coward dies a thousand times.

    You are not a coward.

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    Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.
  87. I don't see what's wrong with this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What's wrong with cooperating on cyber security? I can agree that amongst the political parties there would be resistance because of agendas, but objectively speaking?. Not sure what's the big hooha over this. The hacking happens both ways, USA hacks and attempts to influence elections amongst other things and even hacks allies, because that's what countries do. China even hacked OPM, which is an even more serious and targeted breach. Someone people with Russian IPs at best leaked Podesta's emails, which i doubt had much impact because if it did, Trump would have won the popular vote. The access hollywood tape actually probably was more damaging, and do we know who colluded to leak it? Important to note that NSA confidence level wasn't high in the Joint Assessment into the hacking (the bogus 17 agencies report).

    1. Re:I don't see what's wrong with this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      God you're a moron.

    2. Re:I don't see what's wrong with this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Me either? Since it has been happening for fucking years now. There isn't enough bauxite to be refined into enough aluminum to make enough hats for the number of conspiracy theory morons in these threads.

    3. Re:I don't see what's wrong with this? by MoarSauce123 · · Score: 2

      You may want to read deeper into the biography of Putin. After that you should know that you can't even trust him to hold your bag of trash. Do you seriously think it is a good idea to cooperate with an entity that actively disturbs elections in other countries, supports mass murderers like Assad, jails all its opposition, and invades neighboring countries after killing their top political candidates failed?

    4. Re:I don't see what's wrong with this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You might want to read deeper into strategic arms limitation treaties and decide whether cooperation is really such a bad idea. I don't deny the seriousness of the relationship, I just fail to understand how lighting your hair on fire and blathering "TrumpmuhRussia TrumpmuhRussia" is anything other than grade school playground behavior.

  88. Re:What a bullshitter... apk by buss_error · · Score: 2

    Wow. I am going to assume that you are unaware that any thread I post to, I am not going to be allowed to moderate.
    And no, I don't have another account I use on Slashdot. They are pretty good about spotting those. I know, because I have the code, and it's there to check for it.

    But I'm sure you'll think otherwise. OK. Believe what you will.

    Just look at my posting history, and see if that fits with what you believe. Reputation is what others think of you, but honor is what you know about yourself. I know what I know about myself - my honor is safe from you, and I really don't much care what you think of my reputation. Simply because I don't care.

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  89. Re:At least he has ideas by DivineKnight · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As per the HHGTTG, he is fulfilling the role of the Galactic President admirably. People can't stop watching him, or talking about him, and in doing so, he is providing the very useful service of drawing attention away from those with real power. Remember, the role of the Galactic President is always filled by the most controversial candidate, the one who brings about finely tuned outrage.

  90. Re:Why is this a dumb idea really?? by Lisandro · · Score: 1

    Seriously? You are arguing on a tech website why having a joint operation with a country proven to have interfered on your own is not a terrible idea?

  91. Re:Why is this a dumb idea really?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I know "Russia" is now a trigger word for the left (despite the long Russian support of the American left, what ungrateful curs!).

    Eh, there is no "American left". USA had a right-wing party, the Democrats and a center-left party, the Republicans. But as the Democrats were no longer as racist bigots as some people in the South would like them to be, Nixon et al. followed what is called the "Southern Strategy" and move the Republican party to the far-right to appeal to those voters. So there is now a right-wing party and a more-right-wing party in the US. Whoever thinks the Democrats are left-wing/commie bastards etc has no idea about politics or history.

  92. Re:Why is this a dumb idea really?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As for cyber security? Why not? Might stop some spam and other evil-doers.

    If it hastens the day when you all burn in nuclear fire, then I have to say I am also broadly in favour of it.

  93. Righties have small brains. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And they look like dry raisins.

  94. Re:Why is this a dumb idea really?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    As for cyber security? Why not?

    Because Trump proposed it, therefore there is a segment of the population who believes that it is inherently evil and wrong, because CNN told them so.

    Note that I am not saying this is necessarily a good idea. There are legitimate concerns here. But this is where most of the condemnation is coming from, not from actual consideration of the situation.

  95. Re: The Russian government can't cop to a lower ch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Someone's been "triggered".

  96. Soooooooo.... by Freischutz · · Score: 2

    Yeah well, he got everybody to forget about Bush... And remember when Nixon was the bottom of the barrel? I guess records are meant to be broken.

    Soooooooo.... you guys miss me yet?

    -- George W. Bush

  97. Can we now end this experiment? by MoarSauce123 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Can we end the experiment with a mentally unstable egomaniac as President? The project failed and running it any longer will only have long-lasting negative effects. Nobody can take anything that Trump does or says seriously. We run out of superlatives to describe his stupidity and ineptitude.

    1. Re:Can we now end this experiment? by MightyMartian · · Score: 1

      It seems his idiot son is doing a rather good job to ruin the Presidency.

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    2. Re:Can we now end this experiment? by DigiShaman · · Score: 0

      Nope. Not until AFTER we neuter the fuck out the progressives from re-shaping America. Take the sharp objects away from them and let them cry in a corner. It's how you save the world.

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      Life is not for the lazy.
    3. Re:Can we now end this experiment? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Second Amendment guarantees my right to have said sharp objects and the First Amendment says I can cry all I fucking want to. Conservative hypocrite as usual!

  98. Re: At least he has ideas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But that was plan economy and not communism.

  99. Re:LYING OLD BITCH: Face what U are... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now that I can believe, APKs mental issues are plain for all to see, though he could just be a mediocre bot.

  100. Re:SOROS losers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Releax fuckwad, we dont waste mod points on useless turds like you, your posting style makes it easy to skip most of them, though the occasional one is mildly amusing in its incoherent delusional ranting.

  101. Before rushing in... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How is this different from Obama meeting with China to discuss a cybersecurity partnership after they hacked OPM?

  102. Not the stupidest by coinreturn · · Score: 1

    "It's not the dumbest idea I have ever heard, but it's pretty close," Senator Lindsey Graham, a Republican of South Carolina, said of the plan

    Of course not! Graham has heard other Trump ideas.

  103. Re:Invite Jeffrey Dahmer to join neighborhood watc by MillionthMonkey · · Score: 1

    Jeffrey Dahmer is already in charge of overhauling Michelle Obama's school lunch program.

  104. Re: Why is this a dumb idea really?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    If that was purely the case he wouldn't have back tracked on it in less than a day. What other issue has he flip flopped on so quickly just because he was criticised by Democrats and the #FAKENEWS media? There was more than his normal opposition standing opposed to this idea. Otherwise he would have held onto it and used it to distract and make his opposition gnash their teeth.

  105. Re:Trump should be enjoined from any Russian conta by houghi · · Score: 2

    I would not look surprised if those leaks came from Russia as well. First they help him to power (by getting people not to vote for Clinton) then they undermine his power by giving away this kind of information.

    If the same thing would happen in Russia, two things could happen (one not excluding the other)
    1) The person mentioning it will get made dead
    2) Putin will say "So fucking what? I also use my own email server. " and go on.

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  106. Re:Trump should be enjoined from any Russian conta by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Plus, in 2015, his sons admitted that all their money came from Russians directly tied to Putin's business dealings after their last bankruptcy.

  107. I agree by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    a joint cyber-security unit with the U.S. is the stupidest thing ever. Do you think your networks and communications will be secure? Not to the U.S., that's for sure.

  108. Trumpsplaining by doug141 · · Score: 1

    I heard one Trump apologist explaining his divorces are good, because they show you can get divorced and not screw up the kids. Do you agree? Trump says he could shoot someone and not lose voters. I'm starting to wonder...

  109. His private talk with Vlad was fruitful afterall. by volodymyrbiryuk · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Another brainfart from the great orange leader. Next he is going to tell us that he wants to colaborate with Kim Jong-un to furthe nuclear disarmamanet. There will be so much winning.

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  110. Re:At least he has ideas by Merk42 · · Score: 1

    Except 4 communism like how Carl Marx originally intended it to be. Problem with communism is it always ended up getting "perverted" by tyrants. One of my profs had a good idea of 1 year term limits to keep these type of people under control. Putin would be instantly kicked out and not allowed to go back into office and probably have to go back into the KGB.

    But what is to stop ex-leaders from influencing current leaders? Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

    It is harder to metal in American Elections when u are not the President of Russia.

    I agree, metal is hard. Though I think the word you're looking for is 'meddle'.

  111. Re:At least he has ideas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I never understood the whole 'tears being delicious' meme (regardless of it applied to the 2016 US Election or not).

    You want to have people think you enjoy the misery of others?
    Is it just the whole 2edgy4me one-upmanship of the Internet?
    Oh you have Cancer? I'm so hard right now!!

  112. Re:Trump should be enjoined from any Russian conta by l0n3s0m3phr34k · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I believe there are two reasons for this idea of "no evidence" or "giant nothingburger":

    1. This is the narrative that the Trump administration has been repeating constantly and daily
    2. Much of the evidence is highly classified. It can't be made public because it would most likely reveal how we collected the info, burn overseas agents, and do all sorts of real harm to the US's intelligence gathering capabilities. Publishing the "proof" would be giving all foreign intelligence agencies the exact blueprint of how to not get discovered.

    Recently, I've been telling anyone saying "no proof!" that "There is proof, it's just above your security clearance".

  113. Re:Come On by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In a court of law, that is called speculation. SUSTAINED!

  114. The party of ideas = the one in power by interkin3tic · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Democrats aren't in control of any of the three branches of government. A core of republican voters simply want the GOP to shoot down anything the center and left wants to do. On health care, the GOP was refusing to even make eye contact with democrats. It's like you're accusing a murder victim of being lazy for laying down and not moving.

    During the Obama administration, it was the republicans who weren't coming up with any real noteworthy ideas beyond "NONONONO" and "Lets try reaganomics for a third time!"

    That's what happens when you have a two party system and the far right hyper polarizes things because they're upset that a black man managed to get to be president. You get a one party system basically.

    Don't worry. If free elections in this country are ever held again and Democrats get power, they might be the only ones coming up with "ideas" and it will be the republicans who do nothing besides whine they're not being given a seat at the table. Except probably not, democrats have so far been too spineless to actually do turnabout. I mean, when Obamacare was being formulated, they spent almost a year negotiating with Republicans, taking hundreds of amendments. Exactly one GOP congressperson voted for it despite it being a plan initially proposed by Newt Gingrich and implemented by Mitt Romney. And they labeled it as evil socialism. Who the fuck were they kidding? If democrats ever get in power again, they'll try a similar "be nice to the irrational bully" approach, and the GOP voters will still accuse the democrats of being dictators.

    1. Re:The party of ideas = the one in power by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Democrats aren't in control of any of the three branches of government. A core of republican voters simply want the GOP to shoot down anything the center and left wants to do.

      The problem at it's undeniable base is that Today's crypto-conservatism has no actual ideas, other than tax cuts.

      When you are in command of the House, the Senate, the presidency, and have a majority of governors in the states, and still can't come up with anything, have had two different stabs at healthcare reform while excluding the enemy from the entire discussion, you have to face it, you are not competent. You cannot govern.

      When you are in control of all those things, yet allow the longest crypto-war in US history to drain and weaken the country, while being able to whip yourself into a frenzy about which restroom that stupid-ass Caitlyn/Bruce Jenner takes a shit in, you cannot govern.

      It isn't surprising that we have conservative versus liberal clashes. It's a great way to make a governance work. People oon the progressive side of the spectrum tend to have a lot of ideas they want to enact. Some are really stupid and/or impossible. Conservatives by nature tend to have less ideas, but in a healthy governance, oppose the stupid ideas, and let the smart ones go through.

      And that's how we got to this point. Someone managed to get the conservatives to declare any but their own as the enemy. The managed to get elected by fanning the flames of trumped-up issues.

      And now in power, are tripping over their tongues, not fit to govern even when they have a sizeable majority. But that is what happens when the fix for the nation's healthcare system is their only tool - a tax cut.

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    2. Re:The party of ideas = the one in power by interkin3tic · · Score: 1

      The problem at it's undeniable base is that Today's crypto-conservatism has no actual ideas, other than tax cuts.

      Unfortunately it's mutated past that. I think this is part of what made Trump so popular in the GOP. He was actually coming up with ideas. They were terribly stupid ideas, but in the vacuum of the GOP, they sounded great (to the GOP voters).

      Look at how much excitement "build a wall" got. Christ on a cracker, the "conservative" party went nuts over it even though the price tag would make the most tax-friendly liberal blush. To say nothing of the fact that 90% of undocumented workers from mexico come in by plane, or the wall would be 30 feet and easily climbable with a ladder.

      If we could go back to the right wing merely saying "no" to everything, we'd be in a better place, but I fear we're in a new era with the right wing, one where the leaders spew out ideas that don't adhere to any political ideology of "we hate any one besides ourselves."

    3. Re:The party of ideas = the one in power by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately it's mutated past that. I think this is part of what made Trump so popular in the GOP. He was actually coming up with ideas. They were terribly stupid ideas, but in the vacuum of the GOP, they sounded great (to the GOP voters).

      Yes - I think you are correct. And to many crypto-conservatives, eventually there needs to be something else besides the Tax cut cure- all. When the party you vote for wants to take away your free health care - and make no mistake, the bedrock of crypto-conservatism has a lot of people who are on food stamps, medicaid, and other assistance - and replace what they are taking away from you with a...... you guessed it - a tax cut - they are starved for ideas.

      Look at how much excitement "build a wall" got. Christ on a cracker, the "conservative" party went nuts over it even though the price tag would make the most tax-friendly liberal blush. To say nothing of the fact that 90% of undocumented workers from mexico come in by plane, or the wall would be 30 feet and easily climbable with a ladder.

      I did some back of the envelope calculations, and their wall would be the biggest make work project in history, and would cause a shortage of both cement and iron used in the rebar, leading to increases in price leading to a bit of a positive feedback loop leading to an impossibility of making any sort of cogent idea on the cost, only reasonable answer is "really damn expensive".

      All to build a dam wall, the symbol that the USA is adopting the Berlin wall concept as a core value.

      If we could go back to the right wing merely saying "no" to everything, we'd be in a better place, but I fear we're in a new era with the right wing, one where the leaders spew out ideas that don't adhere to any political ideology of "we hate any one besides ourselves."

      The concept of saying NO! to any and all ideas only works when you aren't in control, and have enough people to have a chance of enforcing the NO! . Someone elses always has to come up with the idea. But when you are the majority party, yet your only real idea is NO! , you are at a huge disadvantage. Because the crypto-conservatives were so busy saying NO! , it was masking the fact that they have no actual ideas.

      This is why in addition to really stupid and cruel replacements for Romneycare that are thought up with no input from their enemy, the party of NO! is now saying it to themselves.

      tl;dr version, when your only tool is NO! , every issue looks like something that you say NO! to. That's called eating their young.

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    4. Re:The party of ideas = the one in power by NetNed · · Score: 0

      Is that like the liberal left and their only idea of throw money at it till it goes away? And do you really think that all the republicans are in a drum circle singing songs about how well they get along? McCain's and Graham's faction would LOVE Trump out of office because they could return to the war machine of selling weapons, something that President Obama and Hillary Clinton were all in on unless you missed the FACT that under President Obama they sold the most weapons to foreign nations of any president since WWII.

      Funny how people believe all the bullshit fed to them on the nightly news that this 2 parties are "ALWAYS" at odd with each other. If they are both cashing in on some underhanded deal you'd be amazed how well they can work together.

    5. Re:The party of ideas = the one in power by jriding · · Score: 1

      And to add to the Tax Cut cure all. This solution has been proven not to work.
      Kansas GOP Congress just over ruled the Governor because Kansas was broke. The GOP voted to raise taxes just so the state would not go into bankruptcy.

      Notice that the GOP of Kansas actually were the ones that said this idea of cutting taxes will we make more revenue is not working.

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    6. Re:The party of ideas = the one in power by Rob+Y. · · Score: 1

      Today's crypto-conservatism has no actual ideas, other than tax cuts.

      If only. Today's crypto-conservatism has plenty of ideas. But they're all about how to sell tax cuts as something they're not. How to flatter people that they don't need to think too deeply about issues, that simplistic answers are fine - and then convince them of the specific simplistic answer that government is always the problem. How to get the government to pay for things they want (and want to sell) while depleting it of resources to regulate the way businesses operate and treat their customers.

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    7. Re:The party of ideas = the one in power by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Is that like the liberal left and their only idea of throw money at it till it goes away?

      You have none. Congratulations.

      And do you really think that all the republicans are in a drum circle singing songs about how well they get along? McCain's and Graham's faction would LOVE Trump out of office because they could return to the war machine of selling weapons, something that President Obama and Hillary Clinton were all in on unless you missed the FACT that under President Obama they sold the most weapons to foreign nations of any president since WWII.

      Perhaps I am arguing with a bag of weasels. Your unintelligent deflection argument ranks a zero on the scale. This is because people who make stupid deflection attempts are simply proving that they have absolutely nothing to ad to te conversation.

      Obama and Clinton and selling weapons to foreign nations have absolutely nothing to do with this discussions. We are talking about you and yours having no ideas, and if you for a second think that that comment about people not even related to the subject at hand, that somehow arms sales by a couple Democrats trumps "The Republican Party has no ideas" - well you just proved my point. Problems wil go on, and you'll just blame blame blame.

      Funny how people believe all the bullshit fed to them on the nightly news that this 2 parties are "ALWAYS" at odd with each other. If they are both cashing in on some underhanded deal you'd be amazed how well they can work together.

      Funny how your attempt at defelection number two is just as successful at showing your utter mental bankruptcy as the first. It also brings up an interesting point. You anr yours are criminally weak. Can't fix problems, only whine and cry about how it's always the evil liberals, the Liberals who are so powerful that you can't defeat them even when they are in a significant minority. Sad.

      This isn't about the previous occupant, or the person who didn't get elected to the POTUS. This isn't about CNN or MSNBC or FOX News.

      It's about a political party that doesn't have a clue about how to govern, when having a clear majority, cannot put together a way to govern the country. Your defelction attempts are just showing that in a group of people who would try to equate a former president and a failed presidential candidate as somehow equivalent to the two failed attempts at passing a healthcare replacement bill, is clear proof that you have no ideas, only castigation. and therefore are pretty much a failure af governance.

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    8. Re:The party of ideas = the one in power by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      And to add to the Tax Cut cure all. This solution has been proven not to work. Kansas GOP Congress just over ruled the Governor because Kansas was broke. The GOP voted to raise taxes just so the state would not go into bankruptcy.

      Notice that the GOP of Kansas actually were the ones that said this idea of cutting taxes will we make more revenue is not working.

      I liken it to the rudder on a boat. When the boat is going fast, the rudder has a marked effect. The rudder is tax cuts. Taxes can reach a point where they are onerous. So you cut back on taxes some, and it can have an effect. The boat might go a little slower.

      But when the boat is going very slowly or stopped, the rudder can flail back and forth with little effect.

      So tax cuts have their very own limitations. Hopefully supply-side Jesus won't strike me with lightning.

      And yes Kansas and Oklahoma are reaping the rewards of crypto-conservative tax cuts. At some point the concept that the 1 percenters will create jobs for the 99 percenters if only they get more money has to answer just how much money they need to start creating jobs.

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    9. Re:The party of ideas = the one in power by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Today's crypto-conservatism has no actual ideas, other than tax cuts.

      If only. Today's crypto-conservatism has plenty of ideas. But they're all about how to sell tax cuts as something they're not.

      That's still the concept that the answer to every problem is a tax cut. Different problems same solution. And works so well in the states where they implement it. Only not.

      How to flatter people that they don't need to think too deeply about issues, that simplistic answers are fine - and then convince them of the specific simplistic answer that government is always the problem.

      And have managed to get people who are living off the government dole to vote for people who will kick them off their lifeline. A work of genius, if only temporary.

      As for government always being the problem, isn't it amazing that there are so many people running for positions that they claim to hate? This would be like me decideing that I want to be a technologist so that I can eliminate technology.

      Yet people buy it. People seem to think that this person that claims to hate government is going to make it smaller if only he and all of his hombres are elected. Very few people try to get a job that they hope to lose. A political non-sequitur.

      How to get the government to pay for things they want (and want to sell) while depleting it of resources to regulate the way businesses operate and treat their customers.

      We are sadly in the Pecuniary extraction phase of a successful country, where the money is extracted into the hands of a few people. This has some important side effects. We're already ceding leadership positions in order to make a few folks wealthier. Science is next. A communist country is building the next Superconducting supercollider while we are all arguing about Caitlin/Bruce Jenner's proper room to defecate in, whether or not people have to make wedding cakes for gay people, and closing off science advisory. A country that discards science for political ideology is in trouble, and we are become the 21st centurey Lysenkoists.

      I don't know if there is a fix for any of that, but just wait until the Yuan becomes the de-facto currency of the world, replacing the dollar. That's when we will know that we masturbated ourselves out of leadership. And the same people who put us there will demand answers and blame.

      I suspect their cure will be:

      A tax cut.

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    10. Re:The party of ideas = the one in power by NetNed · · Score: 1

      I like how you have no debate for what I said other than to name call and claim you are talking from some moral superior high ground. So I guess you've missed the stock market numbers? That little elephant in the room kinda makes your argument look like utter hogwash. What about the immigration ban that the left are fighting so hard to block with running to liberal judges in different states to throw up a challenge every time they get their asses handed to them in another state? How about getting rid of government workers, one of the most bloated areas of the government where the motto is "why hire one guy to do a job when you can hire 4 to do the same job!". Gee, that sounds like a plan, like a GOOD plan. How about illegal immigration being down over 50%? Pretty sure he talked all campaign about plans to quell that. Hmmm seems to be working. How about the number of jobs being created? Didn't he say he wanted to put the AMERICAN worker back to work??? That kinda sounds like a plan?? How about pulling out of the Paris Climate accord because it was a money grab from the US? He said he was going to do it. Went there and did it. Plan, execution, result.

      So I am thinking you don't seem to understand what the word plan means..............

    11. Re:The party of ideas = the one in power by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      I like how you have no debate for what I said other than to name call and claim you are talking from some moral superior high ground. .

      I have no debate for people who use deflection tactics. Your Hillary deflection would be as much a point as me pointiong out the Iran Contra affair. History, and not germain to the topic at hand.

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    12. Re:The party of ideas = the one in power by NetNed · · Score: 1

      Have you missed the national debt? Yeah, fuck it, lets keep spending on shitty programs that every fucking study under the sun shows are utter failures. Let's just keep pouring money in to them and they will fix themselves.

    13. Re:The party of ideas = the one in power by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > The problem at it's undeniable base is that Today's crypto-conservatism has no actual ideas, other than tax cuts.

      Here's an idea: leave people the fuck alone to let them make their way in this world. Stop throwing bread and circuses at people until they become blobs lacking any ambition and expecting magical fixes from the mother-state.

    14. Re:The party of ideas = the one in power by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      > The problem at it's undeniable base is that Today's crypto-conservatism has no actual ideas, other than tax cuts.

      Here's an idea: leave people the fuck alone to let them make their way in this world. Stop throwing bread and circuses at people until they become blobs lacking any ambition and expecting magical fixes from the mother-state.

      Ah, it's nice to hear from teh anarchists. Brcause as we all know, everyone behaves perfenctly until teh evil guvment come in and screws everything up.

      Leaving "People the fuck aloone is a great way to become a slave or be killed by someone who tinks that bothering them is not leaving them alone to make their way.

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    15. Re: The party of ideas = the one in power by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So...uh...maybe we should fix it by...uh...stimulating the economy with...a tax cut.

      You know you were thinking it

    16. Re:The party of ideas = the one in power by painandgreed · · Score: 1

      Is that like the liberal left and their only idea of throw money at it till it goes away?

      You have none. Congratulations.

      Not true. Conservatives want to cut money to things that aren't their projects, throw even more money at things that are their projects, and cut taxes.

    17. Re:The party of ideas = the one in power by roman_mir · · Score: 0

      Tax cuts? Tax cuts are a joke. There shouldn't be any tax cuts at all because what should be done has nothing to do with cutting taxes. What should be done is the dismantling of the entire concept of income and wealth taxation and redistribution.

      What should be done is dismantling of the collectivist system that uses mobocratic power structure to push its socialist ideology and agenda, it should be stopped at all and any costs, all and any costs.

      Government must be stopped from borrowing or lending money, it must be stopped from regulating businesses, it must be stopped from setting wages and prices, it must be stopped from stealing from anybody who makes money or has money. It should be stopped from any type of collectivist activity and action. Government's role must be singular: protect individualism and the way of life of an individual as the supreme and sovereign entity.

    18. Re:The party of ideas = the one in power by dbIII · · Score: 1

      He was actually coming up with ideas

      No.
      Definitely not.
      Nothing like it.
      "Wouldn't it be nice if you all had jobs again" is not an idea, and empty stuff like that is all he has.

    19. Re:The party of ideas = the one in power by interkin3tic · · Score: 1

      We could call it something else if you like, but he was suggesting "build a wall" and "hey, lets let insurance agencies sell across state lines."

      Peddling magic solutions that were poison would be more accurate I guess. But my point is in the absence of any good ideas from the GOP, they sounded exciting to idiotic voters on the right.

    20. Re:The party of ideas = the one in power by interkin3tic · · Score: 1

      You're stating your unpopular, extremist political religion as fact rather than justifying it, likely because you can't possibly begin to justify it. That's about as compelling to the rest of us as islamic extremists spouting "America MUST BE DESTROYED!"

    21. Re:The party of ideas = the one in power by lsatenstein · · Score: 1

      So you live in a Republican dictatorship.

      Where is democracy? Not in the USA, that's for sure.

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  115. Re:At least he has ideas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Any idiot can have ideas- you're a convenient example of this. The problem occurs when they only have stupid ideas. Smart people have plenty of stupid ideas too, it's just they filter them out. It's these two additional factors- also having good ideas, and filtering out the bad ones- that are conspicuously missing from Trump.

  116. Re:At least he has ideas by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

    Even if they're stupid, at least he's coming up with some ideas ...

    Now that's putting a positive spin on things.

    We have the best stupid people, who put out the best stupid ideas. Awesome!

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  117. Re:At least he has ideas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    when "misery" is snowflakes melting at room temp... yes. it's enjoyable and hilarious. Sure, it sucks for the snowflake who ends u in a puddle of their own excretions but to everyone else it's a show reality hitting glory.

  118. Re:How did this dimwit become president? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Party the dems fault. Seriously, killary is almost as bad.

  119. Re:Come On by jbengt · · Score: 1

    It has been admitted that the Magnitsky act was discussed at the meeting with Trump jr.

  120. Re:How did this dimwit become president? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The most powerful leader in the world is a God damn idiot. How did this happen?

    My team is the best and true and good, anything bad that happens is clearly the fault of the other team that is evil and dumb.

  121. Re:Why is this a dumb idea really?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's not Trump. Unless there's a draught you need blocking.

  122. Re:Come On by kilfarsnar · · Score: 1

    I've been on corporate computer security teams for large companies, so I know why it would work, unlike you who can't seem to imagine how...

    Should I assume your suggestion in that role was to establish a network security alliance with the hackers hammering your firewalls? Because that seems to be what you're advocating here.

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  123. Re:And in the meantime... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nope, just troll. I know a few online Trumpsters that in real life can't stand the guy. I figure about 90% of comments that look like the above are just trollsters looking for flames. I'd put good money down on this guy not believing a single word he said.

  124. Re:Come On by kilfarsnar · · Score: 1

    In a court of law, that is called speculation. SUSTAINED!

    It is speculation, but it is informed speculation. When the Magnitsky Act was implemented, it put sanctions on certain Russian individuals. Russia retaliated by doing the same thing to certain Americans as well as barring Americans from adopting Russian children. Donald Trump, Jr. has said the meeting with the Russian lawyer had to do with adoption. So their looking for some relief around the Magnitsky Act isn't far fetched, as it is related to adoption.

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  125. Re:Invite Jeffrey Dahmer to join neighborhood watc by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It looks like APK is projecting again.
    He frequently will post to support himself as AC so he just assumes that others do the same. What he doesn't realize is that there just are tons of people who hate him because of his truly awful personality, brain dead arguments, incessant spamming, antisemitic posts, piss poor spelling and grammar, and a whole host of other things.
    I also hear that APK like the moose wang.

  126. Re:Who're you bullshitting now? Yourself by kilfarsnar · · Score: 1

    Blah, blah, blah, apk, blah, blah, FAKE, snarf, sockpuppet, yadda yadda, apk

    Dude, nobody cares about your ranting. You can't even look up any responses because you post AC. What are you getting out of this?

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  127. Re:Invite Jeffrey Dahmer to join neighborhood watc by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You are most likely yet another of his fake names.

    No, you are!

  128. ^See APK is antisemitic^ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hey APK what is the problem, you aren't claiming all your work you fucking retarded ass hole.
    Everyone know it is you posting the BS above as we have all seen your joogle posts and other anti-jew rants.
    It fits your style a bit too well to not be.
    What is the problem, your elephant denied you the cock so you need to flip out on /. or do your doctors need to adjust your medications again?

  129. I have a better one. by silentcoder · · Score: 1

    Partnering with Putin on cybersecurity is like partnering with Donald Trump to make something great again.

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  130. So you are the fucker responsible for by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So you are the fucker responsible for that turd known as Industrial Defender. You must really want people to hate you more than they already do. What is next claiming you were involved with designing WBEM, DAP, Clippy, Bonsai Buddy, ...

  131. Re:And in the meantime... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Since the first is a requirement of the second, it's easy to call it as both.

  132. Has APK stopped sucking elephant cock? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    APK can you prove that you have stopped sucking the cocks of large land mammals?
    Especially elephants and moose.
    Also have you stopped sticking small rodents up your gaping ass?
    Well I'm waiting.
    That is right you can't because your mouth is too full of elephant dong.
    Why should anyone provide you with proof of their work when the best proof of yours is some shitty bloated program that is overly complex for what it does that someone who just learned scripting could accomplish in mere hours, or a shitty defrag program that anyone who has taken a course on operating systems of read about filesystems and has a bit of programming experience could write.
    Lets not forget about you being featured in some shitty 90s windows shovelware magazines, or your out of context quotes from people on slashdot.
    Then there are the unsigned AC posts that support you but strangely use your exact same style and formatting.
    That is some outstanding proof of your work you little shit stain of a sub-human parasite.

  133. Re: Come On by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dude...you need to move to a proper country.

  134. Re:Come On by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Kendall you're a fucking idiot.

  135. Re: Come On by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Clearly this parent post has been down modded as Troll because of brainwashed Americans who cant differentiate fact from propaganda. The US will keep going down the same route- war after war;atrocity after atrocity in the name of peace and security- all because they are brainwashed fools who cant think independently of what they are taught to think by the three letter spy agencies.

  136. Re:Trump should be enjoined from any Russian conta by phantomfive · · Score: 1

    Recently, I've been telling anyone saying "no proof!" that "There is proof, it's just above your security clearance".

    That was the same argument I heard over and over to get us into Iraq. The CIA/FBI/NSA are not trustworthy.

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  137. Re: At least he has ideas by RazorSharp · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You clearly misunderstand what Obama did. He pushed a snowball down a mountain. By making the dismantling of Obamacare political suicide, he's made a single-payer system an inevitability. He didn't view the ACA as a perminant solution and neither did any of them Democrats who pushed it through congress. The fact remains that it's better than what previously existed and a step toward the only morally acceptable form of healthcare in a first world country, which is single-payer.

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  138. AC criticizes posting as AC? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's nice of you to take a break from advocating treason and poor security practices to criticize AC posts while posting AC.

    I replied twice from my logged in account, but seeing as I am just replying to an AC I have decided that your continued trolling for traitors can be answered by AC comments whose author is easily identifiable.

    You still haven't proven anything other than your support of treason and/or poor understanding of security practices.

    You know who I am, so fuck off traitor.

  139. Re:Why is this a dumb idea really?? by hey! · · Score: 1

    Why would it not be a good idea for both countries to share information as to potential ongoing attacks, and even have a similar kind of hotline akin to the Red Phone to have a dedicated 24x7 contact to ask if one country was really under attack from another, as it might appear...

    Sure, but that's not what was being proposed. You've rationalized the President's notion into something a lot more reasonable sounding. The president was talking about enlisting Russian aid in developing an impenetrable barrier (I laughed out loud when I heard that) to foreign election meddling. Making the Russians an equal partner to that would be be like making the Mafia a partner in your anti-organized crime effort. In fact the FBI did something very much like that in Boston with Whitey Bulger.

    It's not that we Americans are innocent of meddling in other peoples' elections; but if we want to secure our own making the Russians our partner in that is just plain stupid. They are the number one meddler in their own elections. There is no mutual interest here to be secured. At least not between Americans as a whole and the Russian regime.

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  140. Dear "SOROS LOSERS" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: I see a LOT of bogus comments as usual from "the SOROS losers" so, a question (as I heard he pays you): HOW MUCH ARE YOU GETTING PAID?

    * Not enough to look like the FOOLS you are unable to accept reality that "your usual"'s what you've gotten - more FAIL as "your kind" ALWAYS experiences, betas... lol!

    ("Downmod" this post UNJUSTIFIABLY as you have 2x https://politics.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10845433&cid=54784137/ & https://politics.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10845433&cid=54783411/already SOROS losers - it's all you've got & it's not worth squat (like "your kind', lol, zeros) - I just repost it again, PUREST TRUTH, & run you DRY of your puny effete 'bullets', easily, every SINGLE time, lol - I love getting the "last laugh" on loser KNOBS like you, FAKE NAMES & ALL for fake lives OR via UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous posts you use...)

    APK

    P.S.=> You'd think you'd be used to it by now - you know: LOSING (lol, it's all you've managed in your WASTED "antifa" lives)... apk

  141. Re:How did this dimwit become president? by Kierthos · · Score: 1

    Clinton isn't an idiot.

    Mind you, if Clinton had won the Presidency and the House and Senate composition was the same as it is now, not only would she not be able to get anything done (because the House and Senate would prevent it), they almost certainly would have continued to have hearings on Benghazi and every other damn thing they could use to continue to make her look bad. (Fine, admittedly, in some regards, she doesn't need any assistance from the Republican party.)

    We'd almost certainly have rumblings about impeachment by now, if not submission of articles of impeachment.

    But we have Trump, instead. And frankly, with the Republicans in the House and Senate, I'm not sure what, if anything, would make them go forward with impeachment against Trump.

    --
    Mr. Hu is not a ninja.
  142. APK only sucks elephant or moose cock by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Everyone knows APK only sucks elephant or moose cock so you are a damn liar.

  143. Learn to SPELL, you unidentifiable loser by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject & what's that you wrote https://politics.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10845433&cid=54786445/ ? It's spelled RELAX not "releax" you utter moronic SOROS LOSER dolt!

    APK

    P.S.=> You didn't blow 2 more "downmodpoints" (the PUNY EFFETE 'wannabe weapon' of suppression of the SOROS LOSER (such 'champions' of 'free speech' yet "your kind" (low rejects) abuses it like no other this way))? BULLSHIT - but, as always, I come along & REPOST running you DRY of those & your utter WEAK bullshit, beta... hahahaha! apk

  144. APK would be a rather bad bot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I find it hard to believe that APK could be a bot. Anyone with the knowledge necessary to code a bot would likely be able to do better than that. Unless APK actually coded the APK bot, which would explain a lot. Myabe he is the Microsoft chat bot trained on Twitter but he seems to have been around too long for that.

  145. Re:Why is this a dumb idea really?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you can't beat 'em, join 'em.

  146. LYING OLD BITCH: Face what U are... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Is it true that APK has a child molestation conviction? Because that's what I heard" - by JustAnotherOldGuy ( 4145623 ) on Tuesday March 15, 2016 @04:20PM (#51702985)

    One day I'm going to visit you up there by Tacoma to make you EAT THOSE WORDS & your teeth: Fuck libel lawsuits you little CAMBODIAN midget (oh, I know ALL about you from your ex old lady who used you & tossed you to the curb. Had a NICE conversation w/ her when she lived in Milwaukee).

    See you had to "downmod hide" this via 1 of your MANY fake account sockpuppets https://politics.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10845433&cid=54783953/

    APK

    P.S.=> You sad sorry little CUNT - you try shit on MY work but you haven't done better (menial webmaster contractor, chump shit) & YOUR TRUE MOTIVATIONS, webmaster?

    YOU GET PAID BY Google ads (proof http://slashdot.org/comments.p... YET YOU TELL OTHERS TO USE THAT "almostALLAdsBlocked" CRIPPLED BY DEFAULT SHIT? You're the worst kind of man (a "not man" scumbag PUNK liar motherfucker) - you deceive others for YOUR personal gain you punk... apk

  147. Too Simple to Explain it to You by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's a dumb idea on it's face. Russia has been a leading hacker of elections, corporations, the Latvians, the Lithuanians, and anyone else they don't like. Which is everyone except for the Syrians and the current Georgian President (I think; I can't keep track).

    Would you attempt to take a neighborhood B&E artist and form a Neighborhood Watch with them?

    Would you attempt to form an alliance with a drug lord in an effort to curtail the illegal drug trade?

    Would you want to start a support group against child abuse, using pedophiles on the organizing committee?

    If you can't understand this then you are either stupid, or you think the rest of us are stupid. Why are you acting/sounding stupid?

  148. We have top men working on it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I received a leak from three top administration officials claiming that undisclosed sources have passed me multiple anonymous reports that seventeen intelligence agencies, including the US Coast Guard, have seen memos from a meeting with former President Obama indicating that this is pure BS.

    How can you question solid information like that?

  149. Where have I heard this before... by Xenographic · · Score: 3, Funny

    > Recently, I've been telling anyone saying "no proof!" that "There is proof, it's just above your security clearance".

    Which is the same reason they still won't show us the aliens they captured in Area 51.

  150. Re:Trump should be enjoined from any Russian conta by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Recently, I've been telling anyone saying "no proof!" that "There is proof, it's just above your security clearance".

    I have evidence that directly contradicts your claims. You're just not allowed to see it.

  151. APK is too dumb to operate a computer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hey retard you posted this already. Just proof that some people are too dumb to operate a computer.

    1. Re:APK is too dumb to operate a computer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hahahahaha apk ran you out of downmodpoints as always from your primary registered luser account and sockpuppets too!

  152. Re:Come On by WiNoJoE · · Score: 0

    Awesome reply buss_error, thank you! All the best to you in the coming year, we will all be in the same boat eventually. I would mod you up more, but I've been stuck with /. bad karma for years now (i.e. no credits), I've never really understood why.

    --
    Thank you Edward Snowden, you are a true American patriot!
  153. When /.ers say this about your work? Talk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm going to continue using the Host File Engine. Your software is well written, functional. The Host File Engine performs exactly as promised by mmell

    his hosts program is actually pretty good by xenotransplant

    his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources by alexgieg

    I've never tried to belittle (APK's) work, I've flat out said it's good by BronsCon

    I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works by bmo

    APK your posts on this and the hosts file posts, and more, have never been in error and/or bad advice by BlueStrat

    * My code's recommended & hosted by Malwarebytes' hpHosts!

    APK

    P.S.=> See subject: But, all you DO is "talk" beta JEALOUS do-nothing "ne'er-do-well" - you're mere words/hotair blowhard bs - me? See the above! I do something "your kind" can NEVER ever manage (especially behind UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous posts like yours whimp), hahaha... apk

  154. You've done better than this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm going to continue using the Host File Engine. Your software is well written, functional. The Host File Engine performs exactly as promised by mmell

    his hosts program is actually pretty good by xenotransplant

    his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources by alexgieg

    I've never tried to belittle (APK's) work, I've flat out said it's good by BronsCon

    I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works by bmo

    APK your posts on this and the hosts file posts, and more, have never been in error and/or bad advice by BlueStrat

    * My code's recommended/hosted by Malwarebytes' hpHosts!

    APK

    P.S.=> See subject: Of course you haven't - All "your kind" (lazy BETA losers) manages is UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous posts & bogus downmods (I "closed your loop" LOOPY looper - you don't dare use your "registered 'luser'" account vs. me (I've dusted you under it many times = why, hahaha))... apk

  155. Re:Why is this a dumb idea really?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You know what's odd about all those collaborations? None of those were done in the midst of an investigation of Russia undermining US authority and integrity by using them as a weapon.

    This is as dumb as working together with your neighbor on how best to secure your shed after you noticed that the shovel that disappeared out of your shed is now in his.

  156. Re:At least he has ideas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Even if they're stupid, at least he's coming up with some ideas...

    Duuude... we're fucking drowning in stupid ideas. Even your idea that "at least he's coming up with ideas, even if they're stupid" is a stupid idea.

  157. Yet APK can't write at a second grade level by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    At least they can compose a proper thought even if there is a typo. APK just seem to be able to vomit a pile of words on the screen with random punctuation and capitalization thrown in and then calls it an argument or sentence. Lets not forget your own piss poor spelling that this thread is littered with. Type harder APK, you retarded little shit flinging monkey. You only make yourself look worse with every post.

  158. Unidentifiable AC posts now? LMAO! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    PROVE IT! You can't lol! I have no idea about computer security? EAT YOUR WORDS https://politics.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10845433&cid=54786925/ & let's see YOU do better (never will happen), LOL!

    * IF ANYONE IS A TRAITOR it's little BULLSHIT "antifag" do nothing HOT AIR BULLSHIT losers like you... you even put down our leader who IS doing a great job (especially a great job on BETA inferior LOSERS like you - I love it).

    Keep blowing your "downmodpoints" - I'll run you DRY of them easily https://politics.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10845433&cid=54783967/ & then what do you have? ZERO (as always in "your kind's" case - UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous posts WITH A REGISTERED 'luser' ACCOUNT & doubtless tons of fake account sockpuppets).

    APK

    P.S.=> In case you haven't noticed? Computer Security & SHARING INFORMATION FOR IT (very VERY important) IS the subject you no balls & NO PROOF fucking worm... apk

  159. Only jackasses keep claiming their brilliant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    I know there are many quotes about intelligence over the years and I have to think the current administration has heard at least one.

    why is it the Trump family feels a need to constantly announce how smart they are? Is it stupidity, ego, hubris or all of the above.

    The sign of an intelligent people is their ability to control emotions by the application of reason.

  160. What makes you an authority fake name? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: PROVE you have actual computer security experience (our topic). You can't hahaha. What crimes has Trump done???

    Cutting 1.3 TRILLION from welfare so losers like you can live off MY TAXES???

    * That's NO crime... YOUR KIND = the crime. Your fathers (worthless WHIMPS like you also) should've shot his wad on the floor instead, lol!

    (Bringing back jobs isn't a crime either fool...)

    DOWNMOD HIDE THIS ALL DAY, lol - you only prove me correct all the moreso & I'll run out DRY of those "downmodpoints" from your MANY sockpuppet FAKE registered 'luser' accounts https://politics.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10845433&cid=54783839/

    APK

    P.S.=> I am going to take GREAT PLEASURE in seeing you "Run, Forrest:RUN!!!" from proving your "security expertise" antifa boy, lol... your kind = disgusting DO-NOTHING whimps... apk

  161. Re:At least he has ideas by RPI+Geek · · Score: 1

    I've been saying this since Nov 9. It's nice to have validation that someone else thinks the same way!

    --

    - "Nobody came out that night, not one was ever seen. But Old Man Stauf is waiting there, crazy sick and mean!"
  162. Really? by NetNed · · Score: 1

    Do the people of Slash Dot all of a sudden now believe that Russian hackers are the ones the leaked Hillary's emails?? Gosh I remember when people here actually looked at fact and plausibility and didn't just believe something because some one repeated it over and over and over again. News for nerds? I think that title should certainly be changed.

  163. Poor advice demonstrates your info-sec ignorance. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You are giving idiotic, unsafe information security advice while demanding that we all recognize your genius.

    I don't know if you really wrote that tool, because you aren't even posting from a real slashdot account. If you did create it, then you have just proven to everyone that it isn't safe to use, because the guy that wrote it is obviously clueless and/or treasonous.

    Bow down to my information security prowess!

    I am APK Give Vladimir your host files, and eat Vlad's cock

    In case you haven't noticed - sharing cock is important!

    Always partner with the groups that are currently attacking your infrastructure! I am Vladimir Putin's cockpuppet! I am important!

    When you receive a phishing email, respond back with a job offer for your attacker.

    I am APK! This is real, so use my deranged, treasonous rants and undermine your security by sharing your security information with your attackers!.

  164. Re:Come On by dunkelfalke · · Score: 1

    A corporate security team won't send assassins to inject your most valuable people with ricin pellets. Or strew Strontium 147 around their house. Or seduce their daughter. Or rape/sodomize your son.

    A corporate security team might send mercenaries, though. And what the mercenaries would do is anyone's guess, really.

    --
    "It's such a fine line between stupid and clever" -- David St. Hubbins, Spinal Tap
  165. Re:The Russian government can't cop to a lower cha by dunkelfalke · · Score: 1

    So, how does it feel to be on the receiving end for once? Because with allies like you, who needs enemies anyway?

    --
    "It's such a fine line between stupid and clever" -- David St. Hubbins, Spinal Tap
  166. Poor advice demonstrates your info-sec ignorance. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You are giving idiotic, unsafe information security advice while demanding that we all recognize your genius.

    I don't know if you really wrote that tool, because you aren't even posting from a real slashdot account. If you did create it, then you have just proven to everyone that it isn't safe to use, because the guy that wrote it is obviously clueless and/or treasonous.

    Bow down to my information security prowess!

    I am APK Give Vladimir your host files, and eat Vlad's cock

    In case you haven't noticed - sharing cock is important!

    Always partner with the groups that are currently attacking your infrastructure! I am Vladimir Putin's cockpuppet! I am important!

    When you receive a phishing email, respond back with a job offer for your attacker.

    I am APK! This is real, so use my deranged, treasonous rants and undermine your security by sharing your security information with your attackers!

  167. Poor choice of criticism. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Lindsay Graham, and everything associated with him and John McCain, are political antiques.
    (Furthermore, Marco Rubio is a young Cuban empty suit that is being supported by their aging old guard. His relevance is literally dying with each new day.)

    Antiques from an age of our politics that brought us unending wars and a bi-partisan effort to milk the Federal Reserve for as much money as possible, subsequently deflating the dollar and driving us as quickly as possible towards a 2-class economy.
    Their hatred for Trump and his brand of common sense is systemic, and they will attack him at every moment of question that presents itself.

    Slashdot would do good to steer clear of them in future articles.

    Sorry, just my two cents while I wait on a process here at work.
    My name is Michael.

  168. LMAO - caught you RED handed... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: There's a diff. between me & you: I produce good things & I do ID myself. You're busted replying ac unidentifiably, hahahaha.

    Hahahaha plus I just caught you posting UNIDENTIFIABLY in your 'defense' vs. using your "registered 'luser'" sockpuppet fake account (1 of many no doubt that you have).

    You can't prove you have a computer security background (the topic) - I can & /.ers like + use my work (unlike YOU lazy unskilled big talker BETA waste of life, lol) https://politics.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10845433&cid=54786925/

    * QUESTION: IS YOUR FAVORITE COLOR "transparent"? Must be - I can see RIGHT thru your bullshit, lol... & your effete whimp 'responses' only PROVE you can't stand yourself + that the TRUTH of what I posted (especially on "your kind" - fake name for fake life BETA inferiors, lol) got to you... hahahaha!

    APK

    P.S.=> So can everyone else & as per usual for "your kind" (fake name for fake life loser betas with nothing decent they can show for their wasted lives)? You only fool YOURSELF, fool... apk

  169. Re: At least he has ideas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's pretty difficult to have communism without that.

    If you don't, people just go back to the default and more efficient market-based behavior.

  170. You've done better than this? LOL, hell no by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm going to continue using the Host File Engine. Your software is well written, functional. The Host File Engine performs exactly as promised by mmell

    his hosts program is actually pretty good by xenotransplant

    his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources by alexgieg

    I've never tried to belittle (APK's) work, I've flat out said it's good by BronsCon

    I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works by bmo

    APK your posts on this and the hosts file posts, and more, have never been in error and/or bad advice by BlueStrat

    * My code's recommended & hosted by Malwarebytes' hpHosts!

    APK

    P.S.=> See subject: I LOVE tossing the above @ BETA SOROS LOSER antifags like you & I have TONS more like it if needed - why? It's FUN seeing you "flail helplessly" as I know you've wasted your time/life instead of doing as well as I have, undeniably, above... apk

  171. You've done better than this? LOL, hell no by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm going to continue using the Host File Engine. Your software is well written, functional. The Host File Engine performs exactly as promised by mmell

    his hosts program is actually pretty good by xenotransplant

    his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources by alexgieg

    I've never tried to belittle (APK's) work, I've flat out said it's good by BronsCon

    I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works by bmo

    APK your posts on this and the hosts file posts, and more, have never been in error and/or bad advice by BlueStrat

    * My code's recommended & hosted by Malwarebytes' hpHosts!

    APK

    P.S.=> See subject: I LOVE tossing the above @ BETA SOROS LOSER antifags like you & I have TONS more like it if needed - why? It's FUN seeing you "flail helplessly" as I know you've wasted your time/life instead of doing as well as I have undeniably, above... apk

  172. Tainted Software by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Given you poor, and likely treasonous information security advice I will never use any software you have worked on.

    Could you please provide an exhaustive list of software that you have helped develop?

    Call it, beta blogging, or Putin fellatio, or whatever... I'm sure it will stroke your ego.

    I'll just quietly blacklist your software from use in any project that I lead, and you can go on giving your terrible, possibly treasonous advice.

  173. Truth hurt? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Truth of jews always makes them dance! Jews believe this of others they call goyim/gentiles (any non-jew): Jews = biggest racists of all (for which they "jew guilt" you for no less! They're hypocrites known as thieves all thru history or were Argentines in the 1940 under Perrone, Spanish inquistion, France (1306), Egypt (despoiled/robbed by jews), Arabs (pre & post 1948), England (1330 Edward longshanks), Romans under titus, Russia pogroms and Germany who got rid of them from their nations nazi german's too? No. Should anyone doubt any of this see Jacob Javits' crony Rosenthal spill the beans on it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4zMVZ8HnFI/ where he called all Christianity fools for helping Israel and the biggest scam of all time per their beliefs below from their Talmud. This is the province of the synagogue of Satan (Khazar/Pharisees whom Jesus Christ himself kicked to the curb out of the temple):

    There are three types of people who call themselves Jews:

    1. True Torah [Sephardic] Jews: these are the descendants of Prophet Jacob-Israel (Jacobites or Israelites) (about 5%-10% of all Jews)

    2. Khazarian or Ashkenazi Jews: these are the descendants of a Turkic idol/phallic worshiping tribe who migrated to Russia in the 7th Century A.C. and whose nobility converted to Judaism in the 8th Century A.C. and now inhabit mostly Europe. (about 90%-95% of all Jews)

    3. Zionist Jews: these are the ones from the 2 above who are pretending to be Jews for political reasons but whoâ(TM)re are actually Illuminists-Luciferian-Masonic-Satanists as Harold Wallace Rosenthal admits in this interview.

    They are led by the neo-Pharisees (occult-priest-banklords). They want to establish a Zionist Luciferian state from the Nile to the Euphrates from where they plan to rule the Earth. The new Israeli Supreme Court funded by the Rothschilds Banklords is full of Masonic Symbols, just like the B.I.S. Bank of International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, which is the Mother of All Private Central Banks.

    The hexagram symbol on the Israeli flag is the ancient Star of Moloch, a Satanic-Baal deity to which people were sacrificed. There is no such thing as a Star of David which the modern Jews have been fooled into believing; however, the True Torah Jews are not fooled by the Zionists Illuminatis and you can visit their websites for more info .

    1. Sanhedrin 59a: "Murdering Goyim is like killing a wild animal."

    2. Abodah Zara 26b: "Even the best of the Gentiles should be killed."

    3. Sanhedrin 59a: "A goy (Gentile) who pries into The Law (Talmud) is guilty of death."

    4. Yebhamoth 11b: "Sexual intercourse with a little girl is permitted if she is three years of age."

    5. Schabouth Hag. 6d: "Jews may swear falsely by use of subterfuge wording."

    6. Hilkkoth Akum X1: "Do not save Goyim in danger of death."

    7. Hilkkoth Akum X1: "Show no mercy to the Goyim."

    8. Choschen Hamm 388, 15: "If it can be proven that someone has given the money of Israelites to the Goyim, a way must be found after prudent consideration to wipe him off the face of the earth."

    9. Choschen Hamm 266,1: "A Jew may keep anything he finds which belongs to the Akum (Gentile). For he who returns lost property (to Gentiles) sins against the Law by increasing the power of the transgressors of the Law. It is praiseworthy, however, to return lost property if it is done to honor the name of God, namely, if by so doing, Christians will praise the Jews and look upon them as honorable people."

    10. Szaaloth-Utszabot, The Book of Jore Dia 17: "A Jew should and must make a false oath when the Goyim asks if our books contain anything against them."

    11. Baba Necia 114, 6: "The Jews are human beings, but the nations of the world are not human beings but beasts."

    12. Simeon Haddarsen, fol. 56-D: "When the Messiah comes every Jew will have 2800 slaves."

    13. Nidrasch Talpioth, p. 225-L: "Jehovah created the non-Jew in human form so

  174. Trump is an idiot. This is not news. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    trumphumps will blindly follow him or any Republican no matter where they might lead. Go team go.

  175. "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" rotflmao... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm going to continue using the Host File Engine. Your software is well written, functional. The Host File Engine performs exactly as promised by mmell

    his hosts program is actually pretty good by xenotransplant

    his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources by alexgieg

    I've never tried to belittle (APK's) work, I've flat out said it's good by BronsCon

    I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works by bmo

    APK your posts on this and the hosts file posts, and more, have never been in error and/or bad advice by BlueStrat

    * My code's recommended & hosted by Malwarebytes' hpHosts!

    APK

    P.S.=> You have the NERVE to ask me to produce a list longer than /. can contain in 1 post (which I can easily in publications in this field before you were out of diapers BOY) & you produce ZERO to show for yourself? You lead zero, you have produced zero (you are a zero)... apk

  176. When you do better than this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm going to continue using the Host File Engine. Your software is well written, functional. The Host File Engine performs exactly as promised by mmell

    his hosts program is actually pretty good by xenotransplant

    his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources by alexgieg

    I've never tried to belittle (APK's) work, I've flat out said it's good by BronsCon

    I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works by bmo

    APK your posts on this and the hosts file posts, & more, have never been in error and/or bad advice by BlueStrat

    * My code's recommended & hosted by Malwarebytes' hpHosts!

    APK

    P.S.=> See subject: Then talk. All "your kind" does, is 'talk'. You can't get that from our /. peers & I do. EVERYONE HATES "your kind" "ne'er-do-well" (you hate yourself, look @ you posting UNIDENTIFIABLY anonymous)... apk

    1. Re:When you do better than this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Blah, blah, blah, apk, blah, blah,out of context quotes, snarf, ne'er-do-well, yadda yadda, apk, PS, quack, quack, quack

      Try something new. Oh that is right you can't. All you have is a shitty hosts file "engine" that you claim stops all adverts but sucks at security. You are a lying piece of shit as it doens't stop all ads, as it lets through your endless spam. We've all heard it before, we've all mocked you before. You offer nothing of value so just fuck off.

  177. Re:Trump should be enjoined from any Russian conta by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "giant nothingburger"

    I think it is crazy that trumpanzees have adopted that particular phrase.
    It was originally popularized by clinton campaigners to describe her email problem.
    When trump people use it to describe his russian collusion problem its tantamount to admitting either (a) the clinton email scandal was nothing at all or (b) they are in deep shit.

    Either way, it isn't a phrase that reflects well on President Traitor.

  178. Like I said a really bad bot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Like I said a really bad bot.
    Were researchers testing out various forms of brain damage to ANNs and that is how we ended up with APK?

    1. Re:Like I said a really bad bot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's pitiful how easily apk shuts you anonymous unidentifiable do nothings with /. people https://politics.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10845433&cid=54786993/ you lazy loser. Until you've done what he has everyone laughs at your antifag losers and you know it. Apk ran your sorry neredowell ass off and all you have is bad downmods and bullshit. You're a SNOWFLAKE loser. You know it. We do.

  179. You PROJECT you care, lol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: With you bs reply, stupid (for starters) & I get satisfaction of LMAO @ "your kind" fake name for a fake life little sockpuppet!

    APK

    P.S.=> The "almighty REGISTERED 'luser'" who produces nothing of value except making myself & OTHERS laugh their asses off @ how dumb you are - QUESTION: IS YOUR FAV. COLOR "TRANSPARENT"? Must be - I see RIGHT thru "your kind" & so does anyone else, lol... apk

    1. Re:You PROJECT you care, lol by kilfarsnar · · Score: 1

      Fuck you, APK, wharrgarble, LMAO, apk

      You have crossed into self parody. Or maybe that's the point. Just out of curiosity, does APK stand for Alex P. Keaton?

      --
      "What the American public doesn't know is what makes them the American public." -Ray Zalinsky (Tommy Boy)
    2. Re:You PROJECT you care, lol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I believe APK stands for Ass Pounding King

    3. Re:You PROJECT you care, lol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Apk gave you an ass pounding you crave and you enjoyed it.

  180. Re: Come On by d34thm0nk3y · · Score: 1

    So your rebuttal basically boils down to "nu uh!"

  181. Re:Trump should be enjoined from any Russian conta by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That was the same argument I heard over and over to get us into Iraq. The CIA/FBI/NSA are not trustworthy.

    You didn't hear it from the intelligence agencies. You heard it from BushCo who were busy lying about what the intelligence agencies were telling them.

    Thirteen years ago, the intelligence community concluded in a 93-page classified document used to justify the invasion of Iraq that it lacked "specific information" on "many key aspects" of Iraqi President Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction (WMD) programs.

    But that's not what top Bush administration officials said during their campaign to sell the war to the American public. Those officials, citing the same classified document, asserted with no uncertainty that Iraq was actively pursuing nuclear weapons, concealing a vast chemical and biological weapons arsenal, and posing an immediate and grave threat to US national security.

    Ironically, this sort of misrepresentation of intelligence to further the president's goals is exactly what trump has been doing with russia. We are getting leaks because the agencies learned from the Iraqi invasion that when the president lies about their work, the consequences are dire as fuck. Better to leak than to let Trump pull another Bush.

  182. Re:His private talk with Vlad was fruitful afteral by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Guys, can you see past your irrational hatred of Trump for a minute and actually look at cyber security? That goes for the grandstanding Republican assholes in congress too.

    What is the right way to approach the problem? Nuke the places the Russians hack from? Is that a good idea? I think not. Starting WW3 is bad.
    Do nothing? That let's things continue as they are. Yay - a problem we refuse to fix.
    So diplomacy then? What exactly does that mean though? I should hope it means talking to the guy responsible and working something out to cut this shit out - that includes expectations, and penalties for non-compliance. If Trump did that, he deserves praise, not scorn, since this approach is the only realistic way of solving this problem.

    Yet when "the great orange leader" does exactly this one sane thing, you get people calling it a "brainfart". Grow up. If you have problem with the actual agreement (which I'd love more details on), then feel free to outline issues in those specifically - and, as a bonus, if you find something stupid, you'll probably be right (since Trump is a bit of an idiot), and you'll end up persuading people too.

    But this partisan grandstanding where democrats say: "Anything Trump does is stupid, thus whatever he's doing now is stupid", and republicans say: "I need to look tough on Russia, so any cooperation with them on anything is off the table even if it shoots me in the foot", really has to stop. This is just stupid and irresponsible.

    It's either a good idea or it isn't. Discuss the idea, not Trump or Russia or... SQUIRREL!!!

  183. Give Vladimir Putin your host file! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I keep a low profile... My background is in development, but any developer must understand security, and prevent, investigate and remediate security issues just as part of my daily work.

    I would never post any project I worked on to any social media presence. I keep a low profile because my employers can only be harmed by being associated with me.

    As an American who recognizes Russia's attack on our country for what it is, and speaks up publicly I have a target on my back. All Americans have a target, but those who don't advocate subservience to Vladimir Putin are squarely in his crosshairs.

    I never claimed that anyone gives a shit about the code I write other than the people who paid for it, and the people who unwittingly use it when they are browsing certain websites.

    You are obviously compensating for something, like your poor understanding of information security principals which have you advocating that we invite the government engaged in ongoing cyber warfare against our country be invited into a cyber alliance which even our actual allies weren't invited to.

    If you don't want to post any of the other software that you tainted that's fine. I'm just asking, because knowing that APK has been compromised by it's ignorant likely treasonous author is a good discovery, and it would be great to know what other software to avoid.

    This of course assumes you wrote the code you are claiming credit for. Your only means of authentication is signing an anonymous comment.

    APK... what a fucking idiot.

    Must be those great security principals at work.. Authenticating authorship of software by signing an anonymous coward comment. Must be great software...

  184. Enjoy your DOWNMOD, lmao @ u... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: That libel's the best ya got? Proof to the contrary = My code IS safe https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/e01211ca36aa02e923f20adee0a3c4f5d5187dc65bdf1c997b3da3c2b0745425/analysis/1433430542/ & was also verified by Mr. Steven Burn of Malwarebytes (who both hosts & RECOMMENDS it). You've done better? Prove it.

    APK

    P.S.=> What've YOU done BETTER, more of & EARLIER than that which our /. peers say is good as I have ala https://politics.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10845433&cid=54783503/ ? NOTHING - why? You're a JEALOUS do-nothing no skills "ne'er-do-well" stalking me UNIDENTIFIABLY (lol, you're a WASTE of life like all "your kind", inferior BETAS, are)... apk

  185. Maybe American Conservatism Never Really Was by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The problem at it's undeniable base is that Today's crypto-conservatism has no actual ideas, other than tax cuts.

    It seems that may be all that "conservatives" have ever had.
    Sean Hannity is getting the William F Buckley award for media excellence.

    At first that seems absolute nuts.
    Except that when Buckley started out he too was all about antisemitism, pro-white supremacy, etc. All the shit associated with trump's base. By the end of his career most of that had been flensed and all that was really left in Buckley's repertoire was american exceptionalism (which is just MAGA on ambien) and .... tax cuts.

  186. No "downmod hiding" this bs artist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You HONESTLY think anyone believes that bs? A different email address used = diff. account for sockpuppets (it's that simple & altering IP addresses = cake to go with it too).

    * WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU BULLSHITTING NOW? Answer = yourself.

    As far as what others think (of me)?

    Unlike you (w/ your little 'special snowflake' "I'm ok in my SAFESPACE" crap you just spouted)?

    I CAN PROVE IT EASILY ENOUGH (you can't) on myself https://politics.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10845433&cid=54783503/ VIA GOOD WORK I'VE DONE THEY LIKE & USE... what've YOU got like that, blowhard? ZERO!

    You don't care? OF COURSE NOT - You've nothing of worth to back yourself is why, lol!

    You claim to KNOW yourself?? Ok - ANSWER MY QUESTION, PROVE YOURSELF!

    Why?

    Heck - you're a FAKE (fake name online who can't backup his bullshit I shot down easily - I hate 'talkers' like you, do nothing talker blowhard bullshitters).

    You have NO honor (how dare "your kind" use that word even) & nothing to show for yourself blowhard windbag.

    I don't have to look @ your FAKE NAME (one of many) POST HISTORY - I just look @ U "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" now!

    APK

    P.S.=> On sockpuppets - please, EVERYONE HERE knows it goes on for Pete's sake with sockpuppet fake accounts + how it's done & as far as the 'l33t skillz' of the fools that run this place? PLEASE - do NOT make me f'ing laugh any harder - whipslash has tried filtering me off for years now & failed lol... apk

  187. What a bullshitter... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: With your FAKE NAME for your FAKE LIFE no less "talking big" blowhard windbag bs (mere talk - PROVE IT talker)...

    * On computer security, this WAS my job for nearly 24++ yrs. straight in code & network security - was it yours, talker?

    "Big bad 'buss_error'"? Prove your background (behind a fake name online, lol).

    APK

    P.S.=> And NO "buss_error" you bs'ing hotair FAKE NAME for your FAKE LIFE loser - I won't ALLOW YOU to unjustiably downmod my post that SHOWS YOU'RE HOT AIR BULLSHIT https://politics.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10845433&cid=54783697/ by using your doubtless MANY FAKE NAME SOCKPUPPET ACCOUNTS YOU HAVE - I just repost to further humiliate your SORRY hotair blowhard bullshitter ass, lol, as I have now... apk

  188. Cyberwar is War and Treason is the Right Word by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.

    Since the US has active trade and diplomatic relations with Russia, it is extremely hard to call interacting with them treason.

    Nope
    Nope Nope Nope

    There is no question that Russia attacked the US. The hacks on voter registration databases, not to mention the hacks on the democratic party are unquestionably acts of war. It doesn't matter whether the US government formally declared war in response, Russia attacked the US.

    And not only was Trump aware of the attacks (because they were reported in the news and he started receiving classified briefings in August of 2016) but he actively encouraged the attacks and upon taking office he immediately set out to reward Russia for them upon taking office.

    Treason is the exact right word.

  189. That's "best ya got" buss_error/fake name? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: As usual for "your kind" (fake names for fake lives talkers online) it is - you PROVE it for us all to see!

    * Your evasion & now "defending yourself" (with nothing, lol, as I KNEW you can't backup your bs like all "your kind", talkers, always do) by UNIDENTIFIABLE ac posts? Downmod hiding TRUTH in this very same post to HIDE IT too?? LMAO https://politics.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10845433&threshold=-1&commentsort=0&mode=thread&pid=54783733/

    No. I won't ALLOW you that. I repost until YOU & your fake sockpuppet accounts BLOW ALL YOUR "downmodpoints" away, lol... every time. Too easy...

    QUESTION: HOW MANY SOCKPUPPETS FAKE registered 'luser' ACCOUNTS DO YOU MAINTAIN TO UPMOD YOURSELF, talker? Hotair talker... lol!

    APK

    P.S.=> I seem to do well by /.ers currently & only a small VERY PARTIAL sampling thereof (as to your further horseshit you just spewed by UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous this time, lol) https://politics.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10845433&cid=54783503/ CAN YOU SHOW US MORE or BETTER from our /. peers? Hell no - lol, YOU CAN'T EVEN PROVE WHO YOU ARE, lol!

    Ahem - WOULD YOU LIKE QUOTES FROM SECURITY PROS ALSO on hosts efficacy in SECURITY to top off /.ers liking & using MY work, not your NON-EXISTENT hotair? Ask & "ye shall receive"... apk

  190. Give your host file to Vladimir Putin! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I keep a low profile... My background is in development, but like any developer I work to understand security, and prevent, investigate and remediate security issues just as part of my daily work.

    I would never post any project I worked on to any social media presence. I keep a low profile because my employers can be harmed by being associated with me.

    As an American who recognizes Russia's attack on our country for what it is, and speaks up publicly I have a target on my back. All Americans have a target, but those who don't advocate subservience to Vladimir Putin are squarely in his crosshairs.

    I never claimed that anyone gives a shit about the code I write other than the people who paid for it, and the people who unwittingly use it when they are browsing certain websites.

    You are obviously compensating for something, like your poor understanding of information security principals which have you advocating that we invite the government engaged in ongoing cyber warfare against our country be invited into a cyber alliance which even our actual allies weren't invited to.

    If you don't want to post any of the other software that you tainted that's fine. I'm just asking, because knowing that APK has been compromised by its ignorant likely treasonous author is a good discovery, and it would be great to know what other software to avoid.

    This of course assumes you wrote the code you are claiming credit for. Your only means of authentication is signing an anonymous comment.

    APK... what a fucking idiot!

    Must be those great security principals at work.. Authenticating authorship of software by signing an anonymous coward comment. Must be great software...

  191. buss_error = blowhard bs artist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: With your FAKE NAME for your FAKE LIFE no less "talking big" blowhard windbag bs (mere talk - PROVE IT talker)...

    * On computer security, this WAS my job for nearly 24++ yrs. straight in code & network security - was it yours, talker?

    "Big bad 'buss_error'"? Prove your background (behind a fake name online, lol).

    APK

    P.S.=> And NO "buss_error" you bs'ing hotair FAKE NAME for your FAKE LIFE loser - I won't ALLOW YOU to unjustiably downmod my post that SHOWS YOU'RE HOT AIR BULLSHIT https://politics.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10845433&cid=54783697/ by using your doubtless MANY FAKE NAME SOCKPUPPET ACCOUNTS YOU HAVE - I just repost to further humiliate your SORRY hotair blowhard bullshitter ass, lol, as I have now... apk

  192. Re: At least he has ideas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Unless you want people to have experimental treatment, freedom to make choices regarding drugs they or those children are put on, or have an insane moral belief that condemning a child to death after the parents find funding and will to have treatment performed by others to be slightly immoral....

    Or if you want your hospital to have basic linens and soap. But then you'd just be an immoral monster...

  193. Re:The Russian government can't cop to a lower cha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah, totally. We should go to war with them. Shut down the embassies, since obviously talking them about anything is treason. Why aren't we turning the keys yet?

  194. Re:Trump should be enjoined from any Russian conta by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    > The FBI, seeking material assistance from a foreign government for a political campaign is illegal. If Trump Jr. is telling the truth then he broke the law.

    Accepting information that would be in the interest of the American public is now breaking the law. Trump to fill up all the prisons with all the journalists! Trump should be happy about this.

  195. Where Has He Been Getting His Loans by mschwanke97402 · · Score: 1

    Once we uncover where Trump has been getting the funding for his various projects over the past 10 years or so it will be apparent why Trump is in love with Russia and Putin. Putin and his gaggle of Russian billionaire cronies is most likely the source of The Donald's investment capital, probably routed through foreign banks like Deutsch Bank. We know U.S. banks quit loaning The Donald money after the first few bankruptcies.

  196. Bullshit, lol - PROVE it (I can easily) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm going to continue using the Host File Engine. Your software is well written, functional. The Host File Engine performs exactly as promised by mmell

    his hosts program is actually pretty good by xenotransplant

    his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources by alexgieg

    I've never tried to belittle (APK's) work, I've flat out said it's good by BronsCon

    APK is kinda right. I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works by bmo

    APK your posts on this and the hosts file posts, and more, have never been in error and/or bad advice by BlueStrat

    * My code's recommended & hosted by Malwarebytes' hpHosts!

    APK

    P.S.=> You bust on me for posting AC? I "id" myself. You don't. You're full of it (prove otherwise - "your kind"? LOL, never EVER can - makes me LMAO @ U) - our /. peers SPEAK FOR ME, do they "your kind"? Hell no, lmao... apk

  197. Nobody looks worse than YOU no-knob (lol) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm going to continue using the Host File Engine. Your software is well written, functional. The Host File Engine performs exactly as promised by mmell

    his hosts program is actually pretty good by xenotransplant

    his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources by alexgieg

    I've never tried to belittle (APK's) work, I've flat out said it's good by BronsCon

    APK is kinda right. I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works by bmo

    APK your posts on this and the hosts file posts, and more, have never been in error and/or bad advice by BlueStrat

    * My code's recommended & hosted by Malwarebytes' hpHosts!

    APK

    P.S.=> See subject, the quotes above (our/. peers speak for ME, not you loser) & tell us: HAVE YOU DONE BETTER, you UNIDENTIFIABLE no balls jealous "ne'er-do-well"? LMAO - hell no, lol (yes I know it's YOU Pope FATZO no dick)... apk

  198. Re: Why is this a dumb idea really?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Might as well partner with them on voucher jets, and nukes.

    This is a context argument, you don't partner with the main violator of the subject in question. You can partner with them on other things like space....

  199. Re: At least he has ideas by RazorSharp · · Score: 1

    You're intentionally conflating an irrelevant story with the healthcare system. When it comes to removing life support, there will always be controversy one way or the other and that has nothing to do with a single-payer healthcare system. The Terri Schiavo case was a similar one in the United States. Of course, you were probably well aware of your fallacy and that's why you posted AC.

    --
    "From the depths of my skeptical and rationalist soul, I ask the Lord to protect me from California touchie-feeliedom."
  200. LMAO, ok: PROVE it knob (I can) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm going to continue using the Host File Engine. Your software is well written, functional. The Host File Engine performs exactly as promised by mmell

    his hosts program is actually pretty good by xenotransplant

    his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources by alexgieg

    I've never tried to belittle (APK's) work, I've flat out said it's good by BronsCon

    I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works by bmo

    Your premise that hostfiles are a good way to deal with advertising and malvertising is quite valid by JazzLad

    APK your posts on this and the hosts file posts, and more, have never been in error and/or bad advice by BlueStrat

    * My code's recommended & hosted by Malwarebytes' hpHosts!

    APK

    P.S.=> See subject: Our /. peers SPEAK for the quality of my work - do they YOURS, no-knob? LMAO - hell no, you lying bullshitter that can't backup his b.s. ... apk

  201. You wish freak... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I merely let /. peers speak FOR me to shut your lame no-knob jealous do-nothing "ne'er-do-well" bs ass up https://politics.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10845433&cid=54789029/

    * RoTfLmAo @ U... & so is everyone else reading!

    (No questions asked - you FAIL, antifag loser - but that's "what you do/how you roll" always... isn't it? Yes, lol! Get used to it 'beta')

    APK

    P.S.=> I pity "your kind", I truly do - you're LAZY little entitled bastards but you get what you get (zero) in everything in life since you're nothing but "ne'er-do-well" TALKERS (not doers)... apk

    1. Re:You wish freak... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Even the GNAA troll is above you on slashdot. You have no peer, unless you count the smell of piss in the paris subway on a hot summer day as no human is as low as you.

  202. No, but I'm responsible for THIS... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm going to continue using the Host File Engine. Your software is well written, functional. The Host File Engine performs exactly as promised by mmell

    his hosts program is actually pretty good by xenotransplant

    his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources by alexgieg

    I've never tried to belittle (APK's) work, I've flat out said it's good by BronsCon

    I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works by bmo

    Your premise that hostfiles are a good way to deal with advertising and malvertising is quite valid by JazzLad

    APK your posts on this and the hosts file posts, and more, have never been in error and/or bad advice by BlueStrat

    * My code's recommended & hosted by Malwarebytes' hpHosts!

    APK

    P.S.=> How about YOU, no-knob? You've done BETTER in the eyes of our /. peers you PITIFUL unidentifiable JEALOUS do-nothing "ne'er-do-well" WORM? Hell no, LOL... apk

  203. Re: Come On by KGIII · · Score: 1

    You should send me an email.

    --
    "So long and thanks for all the fish."
  204. love the quote... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Love that quote:
    "so that election hacking, & many other negative things, will be guarded and safe."

    I assume the "hacking, & many other negative things" will be safe from being exposed to the public.

    Yup. sounds like a tyrant, acts like a tyrant...

    Good thing the Constitution is still in the way... for now.

  205. Re:At least he has ideas by Fragholio · · Score: 2

    The scary thing is that, at the time of this writing, DivineKnight's post was moderated "Insightful" and not "Funny".

    --
    412077696e6e657220697320796f7521da
  206. Look APK is posting as AC to support himself by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Look everyone shit for brains APK is posting as AC but not signing it to make it look like he as support instead of the sad loser he is.

    1. Re:Look APK is posting as AC to support himself by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He doesn't look like shit for brains to me after I read this where slashdot users like programs he makes https://politics.slashdot.org/...

  207. See APK can't even refute his moose cock problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Like always you can't answer anything.
    All you do is change the subject and deflect but I guess that is to be expected when you have an IQ around room temperature in centigrade.

  208. More word soup from APK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Look more repeat word soup from APK
     
    He is obviously of the mindset that if you say something enough it must be true.
     
    Type faster APK you small retarded shit flinging monkey.
     
    Maybe someday you will produce something that isn't worthy of mockery but we may be waiting a long time.
     
    You know that whole million monkeys with a million typewriters thing.

  209. No friend APK posts as AC unsigned again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nope no mode points here, never have any.
    Strange how only AC's that have the same shitty spelling and same shitty grammar and same shitty style of APK post support for him.
    Must be hard being loathed by everyone APK.
    Now let's see you go full retard some more.
    Now where's my popcorn?

    1. Re:No friend APK posts as AC unsigned again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Said the no name unidentifiable do nothing ne'er-do-well anonymous hiding himself punk projecting his issues onto apk.

  210. APK knows all about balls just in his mouth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    APK you would know all about balls with how often they are hitting your face from that elephant and moose dick you keep sucking off.

  211. Looks like multiple shitposts from APK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Looks like multiple shitposts from APK. There is more below too. I guess he just lacks the mental faculties to do much else. He really should be prouder of his work. Maybe we need an "APK shitpost" mod that people can use for him when he doesn't sign his work.

  212. Re: At least he has ideas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's pretty difficult to have communism without that.

    By definition Communism is a society free from any state organization. The idea was that the strong central state of Socialism would somehow lay the groundwork for its own demise. (And note the states set up by Communist parties were therefore dubbed "Socialist republics.")

    If you don't, people just go back to the default and more efficient market-based behavior.

    Not necessarily. The FOSS movement --the closest thing we've ever seen to Communism* --hasn't gone back to "more efficient market-based behavior." [*Inasmuch as it has no state organisation controlling it and it abides by the principle 'from each according to their ability, to each according to their need" vs Socialism's "to each according to their contribution" along with a strong state.]

    Moreover, your presumption of market based behavior (i.e. price being set by supply/demand), however efficient, as "default" is ahistorical. Humans seem naturally to tend towards the concept of the "fair price" as opposed to the price set by the market, regardless of the inefficiencies that introduces. The modern market system, far from being natural, is an advanced economic technology.

  213. Re: At least he has ideas by roman_mir · · Score: 0

    Stealing from some people to 'helping' other people (paying off actually) is fucked and shouldn't be happening. Everybody should be exactly and precisely on their own rather than using collectivism to enslave those who can do better than others.

  214. Re:Trump should be enjoined from any Russian conta by l0n3s0m3phr34k · · Score: 1

    Technically there was chemical WMDs in Iraq. It's just that we (the US) where the ones that sold them to Saddam, to help him fight against Iran. We might have actually sold them to Saddam a few times...it's almost like "planting evidence". When it comes to him having any nuclear capabilities, the CIA reported that it was highly unlikely. He probably had the in-house technical expertise, but lacked any fissionable materials, had no centrifuges, etc. He REALLY wanted to have a nuke, but even the CIA estimated that even if he could get ahold of the equipment he was still at least 5+ years out.

    The "yellowcake" we removed is several refining steps away from usable U-235. One needs around 4000 metric tons of yellowcake to get enough U-235 out to make a Hiroshima size nuke, Saddam only had around 400 metric tons. The IAEA knew about this, much of it was from his nuclear reactor Israel had bombed back in 1981. However, I do agree that often the CIA is untrustworthy; it's part of their job to spread disinformation.

  215. Re: Come On by buss_error · · Score: 1

    Dude...you need to move to a proper country.

    I am reminded of the words of Mahatma Gandhi, when a reporter asked what he thought of western civilization.

    After a slight pause, Mahatma replied, "I think it would be a good idea."

    As long as there is a significant portion of people in the United States willing to turn back war orphans to their country of origin because "Not my kid, not my problem!" the United States will be uncivilized. As long as there is a significant portion that thinks paying our armed services members so little that the qualify for welfare and food assistance, we are uncivilized. As long as there is a significant portion willing to see our senior citizens starve in poverty and unable to obtain prescriptions, we are a nation of barbarians and savages. As long as police are able to kill unarmed, unresistant people with impunity and without repercussion, we do not have a government, we have warlords. As long as there is a significant portion that think "I've got mine, FSCK YOU!" we are not a nation, but a mob.

    --
    Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.
  216. Re: At least he has ideas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So you build your own cars, since the car companies are only around thanks to bailouts? And you grow all your own food since farmers are subsidized? And you never go to the doctor, since college education is subsidised? Oh, and you certainly don't use roads, or watch tv, or use the internet, which was developed using government funds. Good thing you're totally in your own like that or you'd be a giant douchy hypocrite

  217. Shit for brains APK is wrong again as always by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wrong again shit for brains APK. But you should be use to that by now as you get schooled every time you post on slashdot.

    1. Re:Shit for brains APK is wrong again as always by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Proper sentences structure is not started with "But" or "And" stupid.

  218. Re: At least he has ideas by roman_mir · · Score: 0

    Nobody should ever be bailed out by any government action, all companies that were bailed out are dead AFAIC anyway. Those who did not need a bail out would have been better off in the first place if those who failed wouldn't have been bailed out. Fuck off with this 'help' ideology. Nobody should be subsidised, including colleges, etc. We don't need theft and subsidies to live on this planet.

  219. Re: At least he has ideas by lsatenstein · · Score: 1

    Or we could just get rid of medical insurance and pay the doctors, nurses, and hospitals directly via the government... but like whatever, helping people is fucked and I don't need anything from society. I made the device I'm typing this with metal I mined, refined, followed by teaching myself with no books or teachers how to transform and program to connect to slashdot... let alone the lack of help I got getting myself outta that fucking womb and then walked out of the hospital got a job and earned the tools to start this process.

    Thats what we do in Canada. And I am happier than a pig in xxxxxx

    --
    Leslie Satenstein Montreal Quebec Canada
  220. Security pros disagree w/ you... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Steve Gibson endorses hosts https://www.grc.com/sn/sn-045.htm/

    Aryeh Goretsky/ESET/NOD32: hosts = good security http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=7442373&cid=49747129/

    Malwarebytes hpHosts' hosts/RECOMMENDS me!

    Brocke Wilders of WILDERS' SECURITY does inferior clone of MY work http://www.wilderssecurity.com/threads/hosts-block.378901/

    Oliver Day (SYMANTEC/SECURITYFOCUS) http://www.securityfocus.com/columnists/491/ "Host file accessing the Internet - particularly browsing the Web - is actually faster... Spybot Search & Destroy offer lists of known malicious servers to add a layer of defense against trojans & other forms of malware"

    OReilly hosts security -> http://oreilly.com/pub/a/windows/2004/03/30/hosts.html/ & hosts speed -> http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/network/excerpt/winxphacks_chap1/index1.html?page=3/

    APK

    P.S.=> China = imitation = flattery http://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/04/26/boffins_supercharge_the_hosts_file_to_save_users_plagued_by_dns_outages/

    1. Re:Security pros disagree w/ you... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Funny how we've seen that list before as well. Your shit software doesn't work as it lets through all sorts of ads. Please tell me how it stops your spam ads.

    2. Re:Security pros disagree w/ you... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You don't have any experts saying the contrary to what apk's panel of experts say though. Only your jealous do nothing self spouting fables.

  221. Re:His private talk with Vlad was fruitful afteral by volodymyrbiryuk · · Score: 1

    Ah I see because Vlad denies it abd Donnie believes it you believe it too. You are as gullible as 'him' if you think the cyberattacks are not orchestrated by the Kremlin. It's like saying "Let's sit down with the burglar who broke into my house last week and discuss how to secure the house". Doesen't make any sense and it will jeopardize U.S. cyber security.

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    sudo rm -r -f --no-preserve-root /
  222. Re:Invite Jeffrey Dahmer to join neighborhood watc by strikethree · · Score: 1

    This is like inviting Jeffrey Dahmer to join your neighborhood watch after he kills your neighbors.

    Um... wouldn't that actually be a REALLY good idea? I mean, while he is participating in Neighborhood Watch, he is being seen by people which means he can't be killing people at the same time. Am I missing something here?

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    "Someone needs to talk to the tree of liberty about its ghoulish drinking problem." by ohnocitizen
  223. Re: At least he has ideas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do you have choices with an insurance company as to what drugs you take? I don't know if you have had any experience with it but it sounds like no. If one medication you were using is costing you 12k per year and a similar one is free which one do you choose? How much less effective of the free one would you be ok with? You have no argument there. The government regulation would contract with pharma and more likely be able to provide all medications at a reasonable cost, not just the ones on your insurance formulary.

  224. What no Kim Komando endorsement? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What, no Kim Komando endorsement?

  225. That's the best you have? Weak! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You're weak & stupid (+ out of downmodpoints). /.ers like & use my work whose efficacy is backed by security experts.

    APK

    P.S.=> I win, as always - & you're all out of gas/effete downmodpoint bullets, lol, as I said you would be (& if you do gain a few in the intervening next few days to downmod this with? AGAIN no big deal - I'll just repost & get you to exhaust them all away, yet again, easily)... apk

  226. /.ers disagree UNIDENTIFIABLE ac loser by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm going to continue using the Host File Engine. Your software is well written, functional. The Host File Engine performs exactly as promised by mmell

    his hosts program is actually pretty good by xenotransplant

    his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources by alexgieg

    I've never tried to belittle (APK's) work, I've flat out said it's good by BronsCon

    APK is kinda right. I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works by bmo

    I find your hosts file admirable by vel-ex-tech

    APK your posts on this and the hosts file posts, and more, have never been in error and/or bad advice by BlueStrat

    * My code's recommended & hosted by Malwarebytes' hpHosts!

    APK

    P.S.=> See subject & quotes from our /. peers disagreeing w/ you (want more like them? Just ask & "ye shall receive" - I've plenty more) shutting you up w/ ease, lol - & let's see you do better.. apk

  227. Re:See APK can't even refute his moose cock proble by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He did answer it with him showing things the likes of "your kind" can never accomplish and you project you are a cretin!

  228. Re:What a bullshitter... apk by buss_error · · Score: 1

    Let me preface this with a simple question - Why on earth do you you feel like I need prove anything to you? My posing history is trivially available on SlashDot, anyone can look up my multiple years of posting the the psyudonym of Buss_Error. I chose that name because I was working with FAA air traffic control computers, and errors in the buss were introduced through inadequate shielding of the computer. My tag line has not changed over the years.

    On to a point by point:

    See subject: With your FAKE NAME for your FAKE LIFE no less "talking big" blowhard windbag bs (mere talk - PROVE IT talker)...

    My name as posted here is a pseudonym. So, yes, it's not my real name. But I use a pseudonym as a first layer to defend myself from spammers and scammers. I assisted in kicking off Alex Blood, Ralsky, and other scammers many times. In some cases, I was required to submit a deposition to their criminal trials. See Network News channel Network.Admin.Net-Abuse.Email and the North American Network Operators Group archives.

    On computer security, this WAS my job for nearly 24++ yrs. straight in code & network security - was it yours, talker?

    I've been involved with DARPANET and Internet on a professional basis since 1975. I have worked with many folks that I consider giants, and my work excels, if it does, only because I have great mentors. Mentors that many have received a Nobel prize. I am not nearly as tallented and able as they are - I simply do the best I can with what I have, when I have it.

    "Big bad 'buss_error'"? Prove your background (behind a fake name online, lol).

    I make no particular claim to fame or expertise. Your plea leaves me unmoved. My work, again, is documented on line in many places. Again, I don't claim any special recognition - it's there, make your own conclusions, and I'm happy with whatever you think. Because I really don't much care what you think. I know what I know about myself, I don't need others to give me approval or kudos - though it is nice, I'll admit.

    I won't ALLOW YOU to unjustiably downmod my post that SHOWS YOU'RE HOT AIR BULLSHIT
    You seem to have an misunderstanding on how Slashdot works, and over estimate my interest in your thoughts. First, I cannot moderate, up or down, anything you post when I have posted to that story. Second, I have no interest in moderating you at all. When I moderate, I focus on the works, not the author. If it is something that makes me think, if I like it or not, I upvote it. If it is, as this, your latest post, is a diatribe and presents no thoughtful analysis, humor, or insight, I generally leave it alone. I very rarely ever down moderate.
      Be that is it may, I'm sure you'll continue to spew your angry and nonsensical outbursts. This is generally a sign of a person that is either unstable, or insecure, though not always. I'm not sure what it is in your case, and again, I simply don't care. I've wasted time on you, not to take you to school, but to in some small way show how situations like this are best handled. By simply realizing that some folks just can't handle reality, and they're best patiently presented with the facts, and hope that leads them to a place where reality will help form their opinions and actions.

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    Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.