Imagine by some freak stroke of luck it had smashed into their headquarters..
Assuming Darl and Co. survived, how long do you think it would have taken before they put out a press release stating that the "Linux Hackers" hijacked the command and control of Nasa and changed its trojectory for impact? (and disabled the parachute while they were at it.. heh)
Aside from the space travel initiative, this technology could come in handy with people who are sick/dying and would like their dead body frozen. It would be more attractive I think to put someone in suspended animation if they are terminally ill in hopes of a future cure. Because if you are frozen solid by liquid nitrogen after you die; those future scientists will have to figure out how to cure DEATH before they even think about getting to what ails you!
"Can you honestly tell me that the government is going to hire a panel of people to check in in-depth source changes on OSS projects?"
Simple answer; YES. (period) end of story. They CAN and DO rigrously check mission critical code for flaws whenever possible. (meaning they have the code, in the case of FOSS they do. and they do check the code in that instance.)
Furthermore....
There is a flaw in your argument. You are immediatly assuming that all code that is part of the kernel is compiled into every kernel that is compiled.
If there were some specialised kernel 'module' that had complex mathematical algorythms in it (for the sake of argument because these sorts of things are usually in libraries of code, not the kernel per-se) you would have a very small audience of people actually compiling and/or using this portion of kernel code. And if it were the reverse (as in common code used by many applications) there would be someone somewhere complaining about broken functionality. (hence fixed.)
Really, with FOSS software- if there is a bug, especially something that could have a negative impact on governmental/military apllications you need at LEAST 1 (one) person to discover it and it can be documented and fixed. As opposed to proprietary (windows) where there are problems with stability and security showing up constantly and it takes months if not years sometimes to fix things (even after many people notice them and many companies write articles about them)
Unless it is your job to care about such things; -or- you are an officer of the company with a vested interest in the internal financials...
!!!
Why would you give a rats ass as to the "entitlements like this which eat into their budget both in cost of services" in the first place?
You are employed to do a job, no? You are given tools to do said job, yes?
On your logic, I think I'll start taking my own trash from my office becuase I care too much about the office cleaning budget to let the janitor do it. Hah!
I agree with the parent here. If the company you work for doesnt pay for the means for you to be contacted or work outside the confines of the business hours (or business facility) they should not expect you to be on call or do any work under those curcumstances.
Period.
I know from experience that if a company starts looking for ways to shave that extra inch off their expenses in that way; that the company is in deeper trouble than they let on. You'll be looking for work elswhere shortly wether you like it or not. heh.
The Dept. of Homeland Security recommends that if a Web Application requires MS I.E. and you cannot use Mozilla or competitor please follow the following instructions in case of accidentally browsing the Internet with this software:
1) Cover the Computer (Tower or Desktop) with Plastic.
2) Place Duct Tape over the window on the Monitor Screen when a Pop-Up or insecure page loads. Once you have closed I.E. and ran virus checks you may contact Homeland security for permission to remove the Duct Tape and resume normal computing operations.
How about compatibility with other wms like KDE and Gnome? Of course this thing is a nice piece of eye-candy but I'm sure there are many people set in their ways and comfortable with their familiar manager.
I would like to have some of these features, however I can't say I'm ready to just start using another wm cuz of some novelty.
Why not take some of the existing technology from this wm and incorporate it into other wms?
Maybe your right, maybe people are only making a big deal out of this because it is in the news; and it is in the news becuase the glitch accutely effects a vast amount of people negitivly..
When average agency A or company B or department X has an outtage due to an "upgrade" it would be alot less visibile to the public if it doesnt cause public havoc. So maybe I was wrong; system stability might just not be what it used to be.
I dont see why this isn't the case nowadays really..
Sure, some big company gets burnt trying to cut some corners; I'd be willing to bet that the vast majority of companies out there that demand high availability (also the gov't) still maintain policies and procedures for their upgrades.
Heck, I do. And my employers are rather happy about that.
Good point, but are there any companies out there selling a lap-top case that "looks" like an ordinary school backpack? I don't know about you; but when I carry my laptop- my emphasis is not just on stealth to would-be theives. I am also concerned with safety of the equipment held within. A regular bag is not desinged to carry a laptop and will most likely not protect it in case of a sudden jarring or drop impact where even some cheaper cases designed to carry a laptop will.
This sounds like a potential market idea, so let it be known that here lies prior art. (So if you patent it and sell it, I will get royalties.. *joke please dont lynch!*)
How many times have you been following someone somewhere and they instinctually drive through a yellow light and leave you at the light? If your 'pod' is blindly following someone by remote control how is it to know that the person driving the first 'pod' isnt paying attention to his trailing 'pod' and you get stuck running a red light and possibly flattened by a truck or something?
Currently, crude barrels are valued at around ~$41.00 per barrell.
This plant will produce 500 a day.. How much are they planning to sell those barrells for? It mentioned in the article that it derives much of the energery to run the plant from the oil and natural gas it produces by itself.
If plants like this crop up all over the country, whats to stop them from drastically undecutting OPEC once they start expanding and making more oil?
I seriously doubt they will sell barrels for $41 since there is no costly drilling and shipping, and security and insurance issues associated with its oil production... This seems to me as though big oil has left a vacuum in this sector.
I'd predict that even though the production volume is low for now, but since it will be competative in the short term you will see them selling a higher margin product thus higher profit. This could get big unless big oil lobbies to restrict it on a governmental level. (who knows, they might get some RIAA lawyers to lobby for them. heh)
"The Net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it." John Gilmore (EFF).
I think this quote reveals alot. It is one of the inescapable facts about the Internet.
There will always be something that fills a gap left by something else. Using technology that is described above only has a limited life-span.
Someone somewhere will devise a better system.
It will eventually equalize down to the lowest common denominator of this simple fact, from this point forward digital entertainment will have to be sold to people for a reasonable price. And putting a false scarcity on digital entertainment for the short-term greed of mega-corporations isnt the business model that can work in the long-term.
You have a good point. As there are always legitamate uses for most types of router configurations. However, the scope of my argument addresses the network installations put forth by unknowlegable end-users who either dont bother to secure their networks or just flat-out don't care.
This is why there is a "vacuum" so to speak in the industry for cable administered wireless routers for home users. Which at the same time allows for the "give them an inch, and they will take a mile" ability of the major carriers controlling these devices.
This could be solved, however, by the Netgears, Lynksyses, and D-links, to put more emphasis on security on their products. And have the installation wizards start out secure and open up with installation, not close down with installation if you follow me.
This seems to me to be a natural progression toward at least one aspect the generic wireless network ideoligy that the basic home user has.
At this point, the steps for getting a wireless network for the average joe is as follows:
1) Purchase cable/dsl 2) Purchase wireless device / laptop / wifi nic 3) Purchase router 4) Read directions, tho skimming only to find info on plug here, turn on here.. yakka-de-schmakity 5)... Surf internet wireless.. WOHOO!
I know this becuase I've seen it happen to people I know.. And no matter how many times I tell them to secure their access point. They dont do it- and I'm forced to go over to their driveay (heh) and log in and fix it for them.
Poeple like "turn-key" solutions.. And if the turn-key solution is wide-open and insecure (i could go off on a whole different tanget about MS but...) they wont secure it.
This instance it is bitter-sweet. You get the numbskulls to secure their networks by allowing the cable company to do if for them, on the other hand you get the big brother effect by allowing the cable company to snoop on your activities and slap you on the wrist if they want to.
You'll probably get more spam targeted at you becuase "2inchjohnson@hotmail.com" will be more apealing to the targetted spamming systems designed to sell you penis enlargement spams!
Just throw money at every piece of litigation they are in? Are they trying to artificially boost their public perception by being in as little lawsuits as possible?
Slashdot Mirror
Imagine by some freak stroke of luck it had smashed into their headquarters..
Assuming Darl and Co. survived, how long do you think it would have taken before they put out a press release stating that the "Linux Hackers" hijacked the command and control of Nasa and changed its trojectory for impact? (and disabled the parachute while they were at it.. heh)
Man, I can dream can't I?
Aside from the space travel initiative, this technology could come in handy with people who are sick/dying and would like their dead body frozen. It would be more attractive I think to put someone in suspended animation if they are terminally ill in hopes of a future cure. Because if you are frozen solid by liquid nitrogen after you die; those future scientists will have to figure out how to cure DEATH before they even think about getting to what ails you!
"Can you honestly tell me that the government is going to hire a panel of people to check in in-depth source changes on OSS projects?"
Simple answer; YES. (period) end of story. They CAN and DO rigrously check mission critical code for flaws whenever possible. (meaning they have the code, in the case of FOSS they do. and they do check the code in that instance.)
Furthermore....
There is a flaw in your argument. You are immediatly assuming that all code that is part of the kernel is compiled into every kernel that is compiled.
If there were some specialised kernel 'module' that had complex mathematical algorythms in it (for the sake of argument because these sorts of things are usually in libraries of code, not the kernel per-se) you would have a very small audience of people actually compiling and/or using this portion of kernel code. And if it were the reverse (as in common code used by many applications) there would be someone somewhere complaining about broken functionality. (hence fixed.)
Really, with FOSS software- if there is a bug, especially something that could have a negative impact on governmental/military apllications you need at LEAST 1 (one) person to discover it and it can be documented and fixed. As opposed to proprietary (windows) where there are problems with stability and security showing up constantly and it takes months if not years sometimes to fix things (even after many people notice them and many companies write articles about them)
Imagine a contest to see who can muster the largest amount of brainwaves?
Of course; this might end up looking like a constipation contest if it got out of hand! heh
There is no ball...
Do you think that is air you are breating?
What?
Unless it is your job to care about such things; -or- you are an officer of the company with a vested interest in the internal financials...
!!!
Why would you give a rats ass as to the "entitlements like this which eat into their budget both in cost of services" in the first place?
You are employed to do a job, no?
You are given tools to do said job, yes?
On your logic, I think I'll start taking my own trash from my office becuase I care too much about the office cleaning budget to let the janitor do it. Hah!
I agree with the parent here. If the company you work for doesnt pay for the means for you to be contacted or work outside the confines of the business hours (or business facility) they should not expect you to be on call or do any work under those curcumstances.
Period.
I know from experience that if a company starts looking for ways to shave that extra inch off their expenses in that way; that the company is in deeper trouble than they let on. You'll be looking for work elswhere shortly wether you like it or not. heh.
For immeditate release:
The Dept. of Homeland Security recommends that if a Web Application requires MS I.E. and you cannot use Mozilla or competitor please follow the following instructions in case of accidentally browsing the Internet with this software:
1) Cover the Computer (Tower or Desktop) with Plastic.
2) Place Duct Tape over the window on the Monitor Screen when a Pop-Up or insecure page loads. Once you have closed I.E. and ran virus checks you may contact Homeland security for permission to remove the Duct Tape and resume normal computing operations.
How about compatibility with other wms like KDE and Gnome? Of course this thing is a nice piece of eye-candy but I'm sure there are many people set in their ways and comfortable with their familiar manager.
I would like to have some of these features, however I can't say I'm ready to just start using another wm cuz of some novelty.
Why not take some of the existing technology from this wm and incorporate it into other wms?
Just a thaught....
that climbs 62,000 miles into space
I think he means *62* miles, not 62K Miles.
Heh.
Can anyone explain how one goes about actually 'entagling' these particles?
Just curious..
Maybe your right, maybe people are only making a big deal out of this because it is in the news; and it is in the news becuase the glitch accutely effects a vast amount of people negitivly..
When average agency A or company B or department X has an outtage due to an "upgrade" it would be alot less visibile to the public if it doesnt cause public havoc. So maybe I was wrong; system stability might just not be what it used to be.
I dont see why this isn't the case nowadays really..
Sure, some big company gets burnt trying to cut some corners; I'd be willing to bet that the vast majority of companies out there that demand high availability (also the gov't) still maintain policies and procedures for their upgrades.
Heck, I do. And my employers are rather happy about that.
Good point, but are there any companies out there selling a lap-top case that "looks" like an ordinary school backpack? I don't know about you; but when I carry my laptop- my emphasis is not just on stealth to would-be theives. I am also concerned with safety of the equipment held within. A regular bag is not desinged to carry a laptop and will most likely not protect it in case of a sudden jarring or drop impact where even some cheaper cases designed to carry a laptop will.
This sounds like a potential market idea, so let it be known that here lies prior art. (So if you patent it and sell it, I will get royalties.. *joke please dont lynch!*)
How many times have you been following someone somewhere and they instinctually drive through a yellow light and leave you at the light? If your 'pod' is blindly following someone by remote control how is it to know that the person driving the first 'pod' isnt paying attention to his trailing 'pod' and you get stuck running a red light and possibly flattened by a truck or something?
Currently, crude barrels are valued at around ~$41.00 per barrell.
This plant will produce 500 a day.. How much are they planning to sell those barrells for? It mentioned in the article that it derives much of the energery to run the plant from the oil and natural gas it produces by itself.
If plants like this crop up all over the country, whats to stop them from drastically undecutting OPEC once they start expanding and making more oil?
I seriously doubt they will sell barrels for $41 since there is no costly drilling and shipping, and security and insurance issues associated with its oil production... This seems to me as though big oil has left a vacuum in this sector.
I'd predict that even though the production volume is low for now, but since it will be competative in the short term you will see them selling a higher margin product thus higher profit. This could get big unless big oil lobbies to restrict it on a governmental level. (who knows, they might get some RIAA lawyers to lobby for them. heh)
Here, this is a prime example of help desk training.....
Support Training
"The Net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it." John Gilmore (EFF).
I think this quote reveals alot. It is one of the inescapable facts about the Internet.
There will always be something that fills a gap left by something else. Using technology that is described above only has a limited life-span.
Someone somewhere will devise a better system.
It will eventually equalize down to the lowest common denominator of this simple fact, from this point forward digital entertainment will have to be sold to people for a reasonable price. And putting a false scarcity on digital entertainment for the short-term greed of mega-corporations isnt the business model that can work in the long-term.
You have a good point. As there are always legitamate uses for most types of router configurations. However, the scope of my argument addresses the network installations put forth by unknowlegable end-users who either dont bother to secure their networks or just flat-out don't care.
This is why there is a "vacuum" so to speak in the industry for cable administered wireless routers for home users. Which at the same time allows for the "give them an inch, and they will take a mile" ability of the major carriers controlling these devices.
This could be solved, however, by the Netgears, Lynksyses, and D-links, to put more emphasis on security on their products. And have the installation wizards start out secure and open up with installation, not close down with installation if you follow me.
This seems to me to be a natural progression toward at least one aspect the generic wireless network ideoligy that the basic home user has.
... Surf internet wireless .. WOHOO!
At this point, the steps for getting a wireless network for the average joe is as follows:
1) Purchase cable/dsl
2) Purchase wireless device / laptop / wifi nic
3) Purchase router
4) Read directions, tho skimming only to find info on plug here, turn on here.. yakka-de-schmakity
5)
I know this becuase I've seen it happen to people I know.. And no matter how many times I tell them to secure their access point. They dont do it- and I'm forced to go over to their driveay (heh) and log in and fix it for them.
Poeple like "turn-key" solutions.. And if the turn-key solution is wide-open and insecure (i could go off on a whole different tanget about MS but...) they wont secure it.
This instance it is bitter-sweet. You get the numbskulls to secure their networks by allowing the cable company to do if for them, on the other hand you get the big brother effect by allowing the cable company to snoop on your activities and slap you on the wrist if they want to.
Not surprised at all. call me crazy.
You'll probably get more spam targeted at you becuase "2inchjohnson@hotmail.com" will be more apealing to the targetted spamming systems designed to sell you penis enlargement spams!
Think it could be possible that someone inside Google made a few addresses- and gave them to people to sell for a small kick-back?
I'm no conspiracy theorist but it is plausable? I mean, if the first ones sell for a pretty penny you might see more sold afterward.
"We are going to send a message," said Richter
...Send a message, how about Millions ?
:)... )
I'm serious.. He actually said that! hah.
(ok, a little out of context.. but still funny
Just throw money at every piece of litigation they are in? Are they trying to artificially boost their public perception by being in as little lawsuits as possible?