You sound like you're astrotrufing for the plaintiff. for someone flipping burgers, that would be an incredible burden. Most North Americans do not save a lot of money. They live pay check to pay check, especially those at the lower end flipping burgers. I don't know many places that pay around $11-12/hour to flip burgers. Which is what you'd need to be paid to clear $1500/month (after you take out taxes and such)
Unless the company can prove actual damage from their copy that they downloaded, this isn't remotely comparable to the punishment for any equivalent crime because one doesn't exist. If the company can prove that this person would have otherwise bought the product in the absence of the available free download, they should charge them the price of the game plus a nominal fee, on par with a parking violation. A speeding ticket would even be a greater crime in comparison as it is far more dangerous to society than some kid downloading a game at home for free.
but Wii Fit? I guess you can get some aerobic exercise with it as well, but if you're going to use a game, DDR has far more feedback for the aerobic exercise with the mat. Long sessions of DDR could replace some aerobic fat burning classes for new recruits.
since software piracy in China appears to be a social norm,
laws normally reflect in some sense the social norm. It is apparent that laws in China have not been set up properly and it is more likely the laws will be changed than the government is suddenly going to put millions of people out of work. The obvious problem is that the American companies have gotten too big for their britches and I suspect it won't be long before they get their comeuppance. There will come a point when citizens of significant countries (not Americans, since they've apparently lost their collective backbone in the last 235 years, but they're free to prove me wrong any time now..) will finally get tired of it and stand up to their own governments and push out these idiotic laws. America's position only works when people give in to it. If no one gives in and everyone says "Go screw yourself" they've got nothing to bargain with and nowhere to go. The world needs to wake up and realize they're 95% of the population and start acting like it.
you'd be surprised. Years ago when the sims 2 system requirements came out, teenagers the world over were flooding the forums trying to figure out how to ask their parents for a graphics card, which one they needed and how to install it. Since it was the best selling PC game at the time, I'd say that is a fairly significant part of the market.
. In Switzerland a 17 year old boy can screw a 15 year old girl (or vice versa) without falling afoul against the law. Something, I would guess, gets you stamped as a felon and a sex offender agains kids for the rest of your life in most states
You'd guess wrong. Most states have a law that exempts them if they're within 2-3 years of each other.
Actually I just worked with a company here in Korea in my spare time to fix a major issue for ex-pats living and working here. What have you done asshole? The blender community is certainly full of nothing but ambassadors.
You've just repeated the same thing. You don't have the same opinion as me therefore you're not the target audience. The only thing I've seen happen several times is you hump blender's leg in the most fanboyish way you can. Blender's goal with a tech demo is to get people interested. You've failed. Grow up, you've got a long way to go. Getting "the right" people (whatever you naively think that is) interested isn't the stage blender is at right now. Few people know about it. Wow people, and interest will pick up. Some pretty but boring demo isn't going to wow people. There are tons of videos scattered around the net where many people created technically wonderful but lacking in content videos. Where are they now?
I perfectly comprehend your motive. You're a blender apologist desperate to try and spin a lackluster tech demo into some kind of win and won't stop at anything to do it. You're putting a terrific face on blender. Where I was more or less neutral to blender before, I would actively recommend to the people I know who do make animation to stay away from blender because their community obviously either attracts or creates childish prick apologists who don't know the first thing about promotion. Don't worry, I'm sure you can spin that into a win too.
No, that means you're not their target audience. The fact you can't figure that out, especially after it was explicitly pointed out, means YOU HAVE FAILED; epically.
And how do you know I'm not the target audience. Because I don't like it right? Anyone who doesn't like it isn't the target audience. That's why you come across as a dick.
The reality is, everyone is the target audience. I might not make animations, but I know people who do. The amount of people who know people who work in film and animation is larger than the people who do. Get those people excited and you've got a far greater chance of reaching the people in the industry you want. Blender really shouldn't send out children to fight their battles. It's painfully embarrassing for them and terrible PR.
You'll find no one will agree with your position on this
there was already someone else who replied with the same opinion as me. Anything else you'd like to be wrong about?
To summarize your position anyone who doesn't like it isn't the target audience and is stupid, therefore blender is a success. Good marketing you guys should put that on a T-shirt or something. You'll be wanting a child's medium right?
That's fine, I couldn't give two craps about blender, which means they've failed. Getting the regular folks interested gets everyone else interested. They and their fanboys want to take a standoffish screw you attitude, then they'll go down wit the ship. It's worked so well in the past.
The OS community wishes to show off what blender and other OS tools are capable of creating. As far as I know, there are no open source tools which create story lines, genres, or any other meta aspect of the movie. People do that. The purpose is to create a technology demo which shows off the technical capabilities of the tools. The fact you call the trailer, "visually impressive", means they've hit a home run. At the end of the day, unless YOU are making commercials, movies, special effects, or a hobbyist modeler, frankly you're not even the target audience.
I think you missed the point.
Didn't we already do that with that pretentious snore fest, elephants dream? You want to do a tech demo, make it, and shop it out to companies. putting it out in the public means you open yourself to the public market.
If Apple doesn't say it's theirs HOW THE FUCK CAN ANYONE KNOW IT WAS APPLES!
It doesn't have to be Apple's. It was certainly someone's. They didn't turn it over to the police immediately. They disassembled it and made a public show out of it. End of story. Do not pass go, do not collect $200.
Someone tell South Korea. Degree acquisition among young people in South Korea is at ridiculous levels I've heard some people quote over 90% and that's supported by being here. Just about everyone goes to and graduates with a degree here, yet their's was one of the economies to rebound the fastest.
It all has to do with how much attention independent sources give to fiction. Think about the extremes like Star Wars and Star Trek. There are countless independent volumes of books dedicated to minutia. This is especially true for anything SF/Fantasy related. Geeks love that stuff. Some other random show, not so much.
An e-book reader. I have a large collection of ebooks in plain text, html and pdf. On I use mobipocket reader to read these on my phone, and its a simple matter to load these onto my phone from my pc. Mobipocket isn't availalbe on the iphone/itouch, and I haven't found any alternative that lets me load MY OWN content onto the device. Stanza used to do it, but apple forced them to update it so you could only get ebooks from itunes store, and not your own PC. That sucks the big one.
Stanza still does that. I've got the latest version and the option is still there. It's still advertised on their website.
Sorry but most smartphones did not do this either.
My not so-smart phone does this. LG SH150A if I'm in one part of the phone (text message, map, basically anywhere, except an MMS message) I can bring up an overlay menu to open up any other feature on the phone and toggle between them and even have several features open at once. Incredibly handy if I need to hit the built in Korean/English dictionary, or look something up on a subway map without saving the message and opening it up independently. I can also hit the memo section, or browse my content if I wanted to open a text file or something. If I am talking hands free, I can actually answer text messages at the same time. I have a touch and am considering an iphone to consolidate the devices, but I'm going to seriously miss those features.
I have never met a person that carries around spare phone batteries
try leaving home. in Korea phones are sold with spare batteries and chargers pretty much standard. Because everyone watches TV on their phones here and does many other things it is quite common for most people to care a spare battery. In addition to that you'll often find coffee shops, etc that have free chargers plugged into the wall where you can just plug in your phone if need be. Phones use a standard adapter here with each phone having a mini adapter on it, usually hanging off the phone as a dongle. If you want to use that with your iphone you have to go out and buy your own adapter. they do sell spare batteries for the iphone though, they plug into the normal USB port and work like a charger.
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I noticed you're still waiting for a response...
You sound like you're astrotrufing for the plaintiff.
for someone flipping burgers, that would be an incredible burden.
Most North Americans do not save a lot of money. They live pay check to pay check, especially those at the lower end flipping burgers. I don't know many places that pay around $11-12/hour to flip burgers. Which is what you'd need to be paid to clear $1500/month (after you take out taxes and such)
Unless the company can prove actual damage from their copy that they downloaded, this isn't remotely comparable to the punishment for any equivalent crime because one doesn't exist. If the company can prove that this person would have otherwise bought the product in the absence of the available free download, they should charge them the price of the game plus a nominal fee, on par with a parking violation. A speeding ticket would even be a greater crime in comparison as it is far more dangerous to society than some kid downloading a game at home for free.
but Wii Fit? I guess you can get some aerobic exercise with it as well, but if you're going to use a game, DDR has far more feedback for the aerobic exercise with the mat. Long sessions of DDR could replace some aerobic fat burning classes for new recruits.
There is a very famous business idea (paraphrased)
"Give it away for free and they'll line up to pay for it"
you'd be surprised what not suing potential customers would do. Who knows how many of those people downloading were just format shifting.
someone call them immediately...
they have at least 50,000 notices to send..
*looks at his HP printer with genuine HP color cartridge that requires he get it flowing with a little warm water before he wants to do any printing*
yes. incredibly reliable. This thing clogs almost as fast as I can use it.
you'd be surprised. Years ago when the sims 2 system requirements came out, teenagers the world over were flooding the forums trying to figure out how to ask their parents for a graphics card, which one they needed and how to install it. Since it was the best selling PC game at the time, I'd say that is a fairly significant part of the market.
You'd guess wrong. Most states have a law that exempts them if they're within 2-3 years of each other.
here in korea your performance deteriorates if you keep playing to slow people down and get them to take a break.
only 500 MB? you're lucky.
a few times I've left firefox open with just yahoo mail opeon and woken up in the morning to find it using over 1 GB.
Actually I just worked with a company here in Korea in my spare time to fix a major issue for ex-pats living and working here. What have you done asshole?
The blender community is certainly full of nothing but ambassadors.
You've just repeated the same thing. You don't have the same opinion as me therefore you're not the target audience. The only thing I've seen happen several times is you hump blender's leg in the most fanboyish way you can. Blender's goal with a tech demo is to get people interested. You've failed. Grow up, you've got a long way to go. Getting "the right" people (whatever you naively think that is) interested isn't the stage blender is at right now. Few people know about it. Wow people, and interest will pick up. Some pretty but boring demo isn't going to wow people. There are tons of videos scattered around the net where many people created technically wonderful but lacking in content videos. Where are they now?
I perfectly comprehend your motive. You're a blender apologist desperate to try and spin a lackluster tech demo into some kind of win and won't stop at anything to do it. You're putting a terrific face on blender. Where I was more or less neutral to blender before, I would actively recommend to the people I know who do make animation to stay away from blender because their community obviously either attracts or creates childish prick apologists who don't know the first thing about promotion. Don't worry, I'm sure you can spin that into a win too.
And how do you know I'm not the target audience. Because I don't like it right? Anyone who doesn't like it isn't the target audience. That's why you come across as a dick.
The reality is, everyone is the target audience. I might not make animations, but I know people who do. The amount of people who know people who work in film and animation is larger than the people who do. Get those people excited and you've got a far greater chance of reaching the people in the industry you want. Blender really shouldn't send out children to fight their battles. It's painfully embarrassing for them and terrible PR.
there was already someone else who replied with the same opinion as me. Anything else you'd like to be wrong about?
To summarize your position anyone who doesn't like it isn't the target audience and is stupid, therefore blender is a success. Good marketing you guys should put that on a T-shirt or something. You'll be wanting a child's medium right?
That's fine, I couldn't give two craps about blender, which means they've failed.
Getting the regular folks interested gets everyone else interested. They and their fanboys want to take a standoffish screw you attitude, then they'll go down wit the ship.
It's worked so well in the past.
I think you missed the point.
Didn't we already do that with that pretentious snore fest, elephants dream? You want to do a tech demo, make it, and shop it out to companies. putting it out in the public means you open yourself to the public market.
It doesn't have to be Apple's. It was certainly someone's. They didn't turn it over to the police immediately. They disassembled it and made a public show out of it. End of story. Do not pass go, do not collect $200.
Someone tell South Korea.
Degree acquisition among young people in South Korea is at ridiculous levels I've heard some people quote over 90% and that's supported by being here. Just about everyone goes to and graduates with a degree here, yet their's was one of the economies to rebound the fastest.
Friends and Star Trek have received heaps of coverage. Contrary to popular belief around here and at XKCD, it isn't near as popular.
It all has to do with how much attention independent sources give to fiction. Think about the extremes like Star Wars and Star Trek. There are countless independent volumes of books dedicated to minutia. This is especially true for anything SF/Fantasy related. Geeks love that stuff. Some other random show, not so much.
Isn't this the same country that at one point made it a criminal offense to have wireshark installed on your machine?
Stanza still does that.
I've got the latest version and the option is still there. It's still advertised on their website.
My not so-smart phone does this. LG SH150A
if I'm in one part of the phone (text message, map, basically anywhere, except an MMS message) I can bring up an overlay menu to open up any other feature on the phone and toggle between them and even have several features open at once. Incredibly handy if I need to hit the built in Korean/English dictionary, or look something up on a subway map without saving the message and opening it up independently. I can also hit the memo section, or browse my content if I wanted to open a text file or something. If I am talking hands free, I can actually answer text messages at the same time. I have a touch and am considering an iphone to consolidate the devices, but I'm going to seriously miss those features.
try leaving home.
in Korea phones are sold with spare batteries and chargers pretty much standard. Because everyone watches TV on their phones here and does many other things it is quite common for most people to care a spare battery. In addition to that you'll often find coffee shops, etc that have free chargers plugged into the wall where you can just plug in your phone if need be. Phones use a standard adapter here with each phone having a mini adapter on it, usually hanging off the phone as a dongle. If you want to use that with your iphone you have to go out and buy your own adapter. they do sell spare batteries for the iphone though, they plug into the normal USB port and work like a charger.
speaking of which, what is this i-phone thing anyway?
you could set up a server to run in a VM, not that impressive.