I was going to mod this discussion, but I had to reply. Ebay doesn't give a crap about its policies. When someone can list a $50 shipping fee (via regular old post) and a 10% handling fee (based on the final auction price), which are both very clearly against ebay "policy", and ebay's response to an email inquiry into these is "Ebay trusts its sellers to set appropriate prices" (RE: fuck off) then they don't mean shit. Especially if you're a powerseller.
I'll check that out next time I boot my XP to play The Sims 2 (Currently gives me some minor graphical glitches in Vista RC2 that I haven't bothered investigating). If you would be so gracious as to provide proof positive that Microsoft did make copy protection the default for MP3s in any iteration of Windows Media Player that made it to XP, please let me know since I'm going to be so gracious as to provide links to you that you requested.
I didn't say it was the default, I said its possible if you don't pay attention to what you check. I don't use media player myself. I've just heard of this issue and was exposed to it yesterday when a friend of mine mentioned he'd ripped some mp3s with media player and couldn't transfer them to another machine of his. He certainly didn't intentionally try to drm his mp3s. He's the level of user I'd label "Joe ComputerUser", so I'm sure he's not the only one who's accidentally drm'd up his music.
So we only care about the majority of users with something that's entirely optional.
Its only option if you want to download the content from file sharing networks pre-stripped of the drm, otherwise you'll be required to use it if you want to use any media on your PC. Its the unprecedented level of support that looks likely to appear in Vista. My point was that if they're doing something to benefit a group of users who are not the majority there is a kickback of some sort in there for them. I never said every decision had to be for the masses. Decisions for the masses are made to improve your product.
lets ge through your links: First link: We don't want DRM in KPDF Second link: Banshee could possibly be used to support DRM. Thread doesn't indicate that it is. Third link: Linus has no objection to people using DRM in linux, again not a link stating there actually is DRM in linux Fourth link: more talk about the possibilities of DRM, no actual DRM Fifth link: A link about how the MPAA and RIAA don't want you to play your content in linux sixth link:Gstreamer may support DRM in the future
Wow..you're right. Linux is FULL of drm. I'm surprised I can navigate the pixels without tripping all over it. While (from your links) there is the possibility of DRM support under Linux, its not shoved down your throat like MS makes it, it won't be a default install, and because of the modular nature of Linux, you'll be able to work around it quite easily if you don't want it on your system. However its also the support of MS that is the problem. Because of their willingness to include this support, its being used. If MS turned around and said you know what, too bad. Companies producing DRM content would have to think twice, because they realize a lot of their content is accessed through Windows machines. Whether Linux supports DRM or not is meaningless to them.
Stop spreading this goddamn lie that I see coming out of the mouth of every fool who hasn't even bothered to see if it's true in Vista! You don't even have the capability to enable copy protection on MP3 files encoded in Windows Media Player 11! It doesn't even default to using copy protection when you encode to WMA or WMA Pro!
I was speaking on the general state of windows computing. Currently under XP this can happen if you're not careful what you check. I had someone ask me about this just yesterday. MS isn't known for admitting they screwed up and backtracking on something like that. If they have, great, but the fact of the matter is they already went down that road. Its just proof that they have no problem testing the waters with highly restrictive DRM.
Some people might not want their own personally created and original content redistributed to other machines.
and I doubt they form 51% or more of MS customer base.
By the way, there's plenty of DRM support making it's way into the Linux world, you obviously don't know where to look if you haven't seen it making it's way.
Considering that they're at a stage where if you rip mp3s with media player you can't easily send them to another PC you use, they're already there.
Some PC manufacturers and vendors are multi-interest like sony. Linux sure as hell won't turn around and say, yes give us your DRM! MS can use that kind of leverage to work on some exclusivity to make sure a few vendors won't turn around and be tempted to put linux on their machine and in return they give you all the DRM you want.
There isn't one end user out there that wants more DRM, so MS isn't doing it for the mass market.
When you make changes for the mass market there has to be something in it for you. I don't think MS is so concerned about being a media deliverer so much as they want to make sure they keep their desktop share. Sort of the same thing but not quite. If MSN were to turn around and say you know what, DRM is garbage, we're not going to support any of it in Vista, many of the companies like Sony would turn around and trash them at every corner. This would hurt their bottom line.
Drivers are done on a per company basis. Since vista isn't out, there is no reason to expect official support of any kind on a particular device. As far as piracy controls go... There has to be an exchagne of money there somewhere. Microsoft has more than enough money to tell DRM companies to screw off, so they're getting compensation of some kind. Likely exclusive contract extensions from places like Sony, and other perks to ensure certain DRM compliance.
This should be tagged FUD. Its another useless study that tells us nothing. As its been pointed out repeatedly: No mention of hours played, games played, etc. The article even mentions that. From the article:
The study's announcement release doesn't break down what games they're playing, though we expect sites like pogo.com, which feature a multitude of Flash-based, more simplistic games, are rather high on the list. Even more surprising is how many older gamers are playing. While the teenage market dominates in numbers, the study says more than 15 million gamers, about 8%, are actually at least 45 years old.
I don't see why they're surprised that it shows more old people playing. They've already indicated they realized the study is missing some crucial information and thus flawed.
Which is how some managers make their decisions. Who cares why people decide to go out and get involved in the next gen of MS Office suite, it doesn't change the fact that Wine/Crossover hasn't caught up to the last one yet. In business if you want to compete you need to stay current. If they're going to fall behind an entire generation, unless they pick things up, they could fall behind even further. As time passes it makes the product less and less attractive. Crossover is potentially a huge business changing product. It would allow some businesses to stay current with their apps and do what they want with their OS.
Get a cert or two related to whta you want to do. If you have littel or no experience they could help you get in the door for that job. Build up your experience. Your next job will look much more favourably on 5 years experience doing x, then seeing those old certs you have.
If you get 10 certifications, that may raise a red flag to someone who may decide you're just a test taker and not even bother with you.
and if that was his philosophy, I wouldn't take a job from him. I've seen way too many people with an A+ who think they have a clue and ultimately don't know A from B. If I have an MCSA, CCNP, Linux+, Security+, Server+ and some company wants to piss and moan about my not having an A+, I'll go elsewhere. But then I do live in a worker's market right now.
THey're only doing 6.0 beta, 5 was the last very. You didn't specify a year or time frame. For all I know this was last year. The fact of the matter is the CURRENT as in today Wine doesn't run those office applications, yet possibly in only a few months the entire next gen of office apps will be out.
So obviously didn't run project 2003? Outlook 2003? Visio 2003? Crossover is pretty great, but microsoft is getting ready to eventually release the next generation of office apps and it still hasn't fully caught up with the last one.
having an extreme to one end or the other is no indication of whether or not their population as a whole is suffering a brain drain, elementary statistics.
How is this remotely interesting. Is there any evidence at all to indicate what percentage of stolen phones are actually people trying ot get free upgrades? a half-guess isn't exactly interesting.
Journalists would never try and sensationalize something. When a Canadian newspaper had 3 english teachers mark avril lavigne's "sk8ter boi" for grammar and composition that was hard hitting journalism. It should have won a peabody or something.
I've been making a spreadsheet to track all the various causes, charities, awarenesses, and other various things I have to observe in my life. Breast Cancer gets its turn then.
it sucked on 2 systems already, so why not suck on a third? And yes it did suck. It was pretty, but if you could actually look past that, it was boring.
one of the few articles where I actually read the majority of posts. I miss the BBS days hard. I think the world could benefit from a return to those days. That being said, I know everyone and their dog spooned LORD at night, but not I... I much preferred The Pit, and Land of Devestation. Multiplayer goodness. You could build forts, move around a big map (in real time even, sorta). Sysops could complete reconfigure the map, create new towns, scripts, etc. Its a shame it didn't catch on more. In all honesty it completely surpassed LORD in all aspects.
Its honestly the precursor to the modern MMORPG, except its fun and didn't feel like grinding.
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I was going to mod this discussion, but I had to reply.
Ebay doesn't give a crap about its policies. When someone can list a $50 shipping fee (via regular old post) and a 10% handling fee (based on the final auction price), which are both very clearly against ebay "policy", and ebay's response to an email inquiry into these is "Ebay trusts its sellers to set appropriate prices" (RE: fuck off) then they don't mean shit. Especially if you're a powerseller.
I didn't say it was the default, I said its possible if you don't pay attention to what you check. I don't use media player myself. I've just heard of this issue and was exposed to it yesterday when a friend of mine mentioned he'd ripped some mp3s with media player and couldn't transfer them to another machine of his. He certainly didn't intentionally try to drm his mp3s. He's the level of user I'd label "Joe ComputerUser", so I'm sure he's not the only one who's accidentally drm'd up his music.
Its only option if you want to download the content from file sharing networks pre-stripped of the drm, otherwise you'll be required to use it if you want to use any media on your PC. Its the unprecedented level of support that looks likely to appear in Vista. My point was that if they're doing something to benefit a group of users who are not the majority there is a kickback of some sort in there for them. I never said every decision had to be for the masses. Decisions for the masses are made to improve your product.
lets ge through your links:
First link: We don't want DRM in KPDF
Second link: Banshee could possibly be used to support DRM. Thread doesn't indicate that it is.
Third link: Linus has no objection to people using DRM in linux, again not a link stating there actually is DRM in linux
Fourth link: more talk about the possibilities of DRM, no actual DRM
Fifth link: A link about how the MPAA and RIAA don't want you to play your content in linux
sixth link:Gstreamer may support DRM in the future
Wow..you're right. Linux is FULL of drm. I'm surprised I can navigate the pixels without tripping all over it. While (from your links) there is the possibility of DRM support under Linux, its not shoved down your throat like MS makes it, it won't be a default install, and because of the modular nature of Linux, you'll be able to work around it quite easily if you don't want it on your system. However its also the support of MS that is the problem. Because of their willingness to include this support, its being used. If MS turned around and said you know what, too bad. Companies producing DRM content would have to think twice, because they realize a lot of their content is accessed through Windows machines. Whether Linux supports DRM or not is meaningless to them.
Considering that they're at a stage where if you rip mp3s with media player you can't easily send them to another PC you use, they're already there.
Some PC manufacturers and vendors are multi-interest like sony. Linux sure as hell won't turn around and say, yes give us your DRM! MS can use that kind of leverage to work on some exclusivity to make sure a few vendors won't turn around and be tempted to put linux on their machine and in return they give you all the DRM you want.
There isn't one end user out there that wants more DRM, so MS isn't doing it for the mass market.
When you make changes for the mass market there has to be something in it for you. I don't think MS is so concerned about being a media deliverer so much as they want to make sure they keep their desktop share. Sort of the same thing but not quite. If MSN were to turn around and say you know what, DRM is garbage, we're not going to support any of it in Vista, many of the companies like Sony would turn around and trash them at every corner. This would hurt their bottom line.
Drivers are done on a per company basis. Since vista isn't out, there is no reason to expect official support of any kind on a particular device. As far as piracy controls go... There has to be an exchagne of money there somewhere. Microsoft has more than enough money to tell DRM companies to screw off, so they're getting compensation of some kind. Likely exclusive contract extensions from places like Sony, and other perks to ensure certain DRM compliance.
I don't see why they're surprised that it shows more old people playing. They've already indicated they realized the study is missing some crucial information and thus flawed.
Which is how some managers make their decisions. Who cares why people decide to go out and get involved in the next gen of MS Office suite, it doesn't change the fact that Wine/Crossover hasn't caught up to the last one yet. In business if you want to compete you need to stay current. If they're going to fall behind an entire generation, unless they pick things up, they could fall behind even further. As time passes it makes the product less and less attractive. Crossover is potentially a huge business changing product. It would allow some businesses to stay current with their apps and do what they want with their OS.
Get a cert or two related to whta you want to do. If you have littel or no experience they could help you get in the door for that job. Build up your experience. Your next job will look much more favourably on 5 years experience doing x, then seeing those old certs you have.
If you get 10 certifications, that may raise a red flag to someone who may decide you're just a test taker and not even bother with you.
and if that was his philosophy, I wouldn't take a job from him. I've seen way too many people with an A+ who think they have a clue and ultimately don't know A from B.
If I have an MCSA, CCNP, Linux+, Security+, Server+ and some company wants to piss and moan about my not having an A+, I'll go elsewhere. But then I do live in a worker's market right now.
I have a friend who works for ebgames. He's been told that PS3 pre-orders are for regular customers only at the manager's discretion.
THey're only doing 6.0 beta, 5 was the last very. You didn't specify a year or time frame. For all I know this was last year. The fact of the matter is the CURRENT as in today Wine doesn't run those office applications, yet possibly in only a few months the entire next gen of office apps will be out.
So obviously didn't run project 2003? Outlook 2003? Visio 2003? Crossover is pretty great, but microsoft is getting ready to eventually release the next generation of office apps and it still hasn't fully caught up with the last one.
having an extreme to one end or the other is no indication of whether or not their population as a whole is suffering a brain drain, elementary statistics.
If you have a small place, otherwise you'd need to put multiple bluetooth connections through-out the house.
How is this remotely interesting. Is there any evidence at all to indicate what percentage of stolen phones are actually people trying ot get free upgrades? a half-guess isn't exactly interesting.
Journalists would never try and sensationalize something. When a Canadian newspaper had 3 english teachers mark avril lavigne's "sk8ter boi" for grammar and composition that was hard hitting journalism. It should have won a peabody or something.
and I hope pee wee herman wins, that guy has had a rough go of it.
Plus it should drive the point home.
Actually seeing people fucking could possibly equal sexual education, but hey whatever floats your boat.
I've been making a spreadsheet to track all the various causes, charities, awarenesses, and other various things I have to observe in my life. Breast Cancer gets its turn then.
is funny in any language. Whether he's an american or an asian.
Which is how something like Lawn Bowling gets labelled a sport so long ago. The rich wanted to play it, and sport sounds better than game.
it sucked on 2 systems already, so why not suck on a third?
And yes it did suck. It was pretty, but if you could actually look past that, it was boring.
http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=zomg+internet! &btnG=Google+Search&meta=
Its really that easy to make your own article to submit to slashdot.
one of the few articles where I actually read the majority of posts.
I miss the BBS days hard. I think the world could benefit from a return to those days. That being said, I know everyone and their dog spooned LORD at night, but not I... I much preferred The Pit, and Land of Devestation. Multiplayer goodness. You could build forts, move around a big map (in real time even, sorta). Sysops could complete reconfigure the map, create new towns, scripts, etc. Its a shame it didn't catch on more. In all honesty it completely surpassed LORD in all aspects.
Its honestly the precursor to the modern MMORPG, except its fun and didn't feel like grinding.
and what happens if it gets knocked out and you're in the middle of nowhere? FUCK.
that is what happens.