Haven't been following these developments too closely, but does anyone know if this jailbreak will eventually (or already does) allow installing a Linux distro on a jailbroken PS3?
Removing the OtherOS option really pissed off a lot of people (including a friend of mine who wanted to try his hand at some Cell development) and while I admit the machine didn't quite seem powerful enough to run full-on X/* comfortably (and forget compiz/etc) it still had its uses for many of us tinkerers (yes yes, small crowd).
He said "last quarter", dude. Yes, we all know there are still more iPhones out there (if that helps you sleep at night), and only God knows how many iTouch devices are out there (they count, they count...). I'm sure he's aware that your favourite platform still PWNZ his:-)
Doesn't change the fact that 886% sales growth (on a platform that isn't just starting) vs 61% is... well, somewhat impressive;-)
(...and yea, I'm sure most of those are junky 1.5/1.6 devices with low-res screens that aren't worth shit, but...)
All this hype over the iPad is mind boggling. I just don't get it.
You don't get it because you aren't the target demographic. The socially challenged male in his basement with 12 computers (all of which have been stripped to the bare plastic at least twice) and his Gentoo compiling microwave oven doesn't need an iPad.
This is not about being part of the target demographic, this is about how Apple has turned the iPad into a device that is desired beyond any reasonable logic. I... MUST... HAVE... IPAD. Why? They don't even know. True story, just have to remove the iGlasses and look around.
My 80 year old mother and apparently everyone else in her Assisted Living place are in the iPad demographic and they are falling all over themselves (actually not very hard to do at 80) trying to buy one.
Get over it, dude. Go take something apart.
Wow, my 80 year old grandmother (guess we're from a diff generation huh?) and all her 80 year old "friends" couldn't give a rats ass about technology in general. Guess people are just special where you live, huh?
Actually N1 for ATT/Rogers was released a couple of days ago, so that's an option now. N900 works fine on any GSM network (but no 3G).
The "Canadian" TELUS Milestone (Droid) seems to have been rooted, but still no news on custom ROMS (or official 2.1 updates for that matter). I expect it'll arrive eventually though (and the Milestone can be used on all 3 networks).
Perhaps full desktop in under 10 seconds is a bit overly optimistic, but the alpha of 9.10 currently boots (for me) from grub->desktop in 15 seconds flat on my T400s with SSD -- and that 15 seconds includes the time it takes me to type my password! Yep, 15 seconds, and yea, that's "usable" (icons all there, taskbars, heck, even networkmanager is trying to connect to the wifi networks at that point).
So 10 seconds isn't all that far out of reach... they still have >6 months till 10.04...
Of course they do... you're not doing Linux (or FOSS in general) any favours by buying a throwaway MS license with your hardware...
I think this is an important fact that cannot be ignored... sure, Microsoft got a (license) sale out of it, but I know a few people now that have purchased one with XP as a "good to have" and then blew the partition away and installed Ubuntu instead. I'm sure they're in the overall minority, but...
A friend of mine just got his shiny Acer Aspire this weekend (with XP, of course) and spent a couple of hours getting Ubuntu up and running how he likes it... why did he buy XP? "you never know when you'll need to run Windows software".
Guess its the same reason why my Ubuntu-powered Thinkpad still has the Vista license sticker underneath... score one sale for MS.
While they can spin it very positively, the truth is, at that price you're better off buying a new player... and that's probably what they're hoping too (they are a business, after all...). And what do you do with your old player when you get a new one?... chuck it. Very environmentally friendly.
If you want people to do the "right thing", you don't charge them through the nose to do it, you have to give them the fewest reasons *not* to do it... and in my book, an outrageous replacement price = reason not to replace.
Besides, when Apple had that massive battery recall a few years back, they sent my gf her new battery but with no way to return her old one (we're on Canada here). When she contacted them to ask how she could return it, they just responded "do whatever you want with it". Nice.
I agree about the lack of easily-accessible programs for recycling:( Our local enviro-coop has their own, but its not obvious...
I second that -- Wing IDE is a pretty slick environment, a couple of my developers really love it. Its quite *fast* (faster than Komodo -- at debugging especially... well, it was when I benched them), has a lot of useful features, and is MADE FOR PYTHON (unlike Eclipse, emacs, etc).
Seems like a "regular" (g/n) wireless radio uses between 0.5W and 1.5W depending on what its doing... while the 5-Gbps device uses 2W while transferring significantly faster (but over a way shorter distance)...
I didn't see any measurements in mW, but whatever.
Think "drop-in replacement" for a hard drive, ie. something I can plug into an interface that a hard disk uses, ie. SATA(2) or IDE. No one here was talking about ExpressCard or PCI(e), and neither is Samsung -- that's not the market they're going after with this device!
Point is, the MTRON SSD device that the ggggp mentioned is indeed relevant (its a 'direct' competitor) but FusionIO is not...
I think maybe the gpp was simply trying to point out that FusionIO is not a "hard drive" by today's definition, ie. I cannot simply (easily?) substitute my current laptop drive with a FusionIO card, so they don't really "compete"...
But yes, I do remember those days... talk about dating myself:-(
And the average cpu uses a LOT more juice. So does the average video card. Who's buying all those 550 watt PSUs? And the average home has more computers in it than it did 5 years ago. Who do you know who has only one computer nowadays? Actually, the average CPU nowadays is pretty good at dropping down in power usage when idling (something mostly unheard of in the "mhz race" that characterized the early new millennium). And most people have integrated "video cards" now (ie. built into the motherboard) which use way less power... the 550w PS are for the crazies (extreme minority).
And lets not forget that the ratio of (power efficient) laptops to computers has increased dramatically over the years...
I could be wrong, but Silkroad appears to be the highest ranked game that is free to play. Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory is also a free game (was released in 2003 for free - from day-1). Not sure how it ranks overall, but today it seems to be ahead of Silkroad.
The problem with cellphones is that their price is heavily subsidized in order to sell them at reasonable prices. The lock-in ensures that you won't try to swicth carriers after paying a fraction of the real cost of the device. Then again, you can get a locked cellphone for cheap from a number of providers, you can have that same phone unlocked for a fee (or even free if you know what to do)... and you can even buy an unlocked phone directly from the manufacturer. It will cost you an extra though. We can argue about prices, selection, QOS and even the legality of carrier locks. But cellphones are available for everyone, in a wide range of prices, and DRM has little to do with it. You might not get the exact phone you want, but well, such is life. This isn't always true, though... a few years back I purchased the most up to date Treo (the 650) from the only Canadian provider that supports GSM (Rogers) and I chose the "unsubsidized" no-contract full-price version... and it was still locked. I can go to the Palm site right now and look up the most recent phone, and fully unsubsidized it looks like its still locked to Sprint... why? "such is life", you say...
Its just a matter of time before they remove from the market whatever phones we can still purchase unlocked... but by then we'll be so used to it, we won't even notice... "such is life".
Why don't cell phone manufacturers sell these things fully unlocked? (some do, but the high end stuff is usually not available direct from the manufacturer for quite a while!). hint: it has nothing to do with subsidies, and everything to do with behind-the-scene company deals.
Some things are worth fighting for, even if its just silly cell phones:-)
No one said it was the first, article simply talks about how popular this service in particular seems to be at Google (and how it may very well be the biggest service of its type anywhere, but no proof is offered).
I think the key words here are "net money"... I'll take my location as an example (Quebec, Canada). Lets say we're paying 0.90$ / liter (its close to that, right now)... a quick google on "taxes on gas in Canada" brings me the following source on tax info (who knows how accurate it is):
Now, although I'm not 100% sure how the hell we apply all these taxes, I'll assume its as straight-forward as applying the two fed taxe (GST + excise) + the two provincial taxes (the provincial tax actually taxes the federal one in Quebec, go figure...). I probably have the order wrong, but one thing is clear: 0.252$ of that liter are tax right up front (not a percentage thing, but a static number). By taking that off the price of a liter, we're down to 0.648$ / liter.
Now, assuming the standard 6.0% fed tax (its been 6.0% since last summer, so the page is a bit outdated) and 7.5% prov tax (which is applicable on top of the fed tax) we can determine that out of that 0.648$ there is roughly 0.079$ of tax, so it comes out to 0.569$ / liter pre-taxes.
0.569$ is price of a liter pre-tax. 0.331$ is tax that the govts take (0.252$ + 0.079$).
I don't know how a govt works, but I assume that 0.331$ is pretty close to "net money". Assuming it costs the oil company LESS than 0.237$ / liter in overhead (raw costs, transportation, refining, transport, infrastructure, human resources...) then they'll be making more than the govt in "net money", but I have my doubts...
*** I know the grandparent said "federal govt" while I included provincial govt too, but to me its all the same... and yes, this is Canada where we're taxed to hell, and yes, I'm sure my calculations are pretty shady if not completely wrong! ***
A bribe is a bribe. And I wouldn't put it past Apple to do the same thing, but we're not talking about Apple now, are we? (and yes, there is plenty to be said about Apple as well...)
They probably do share some of the responsibility, but this recall so early in the game is pretty good of them.
I do remember seeing the straps for the first time and going "wow, that's pretty thin..." but its proved to be pretty solid so far (no idea how it will fare after years of use...). A thicker strap would have been nice (and will be...).
I can't help to think how many of these so-called "cases" of flying wiimotes aren't quite as honest expected, however... it'd be pretty easy for me to snap the strap by hand after I accidentally whip my wiimote into my TV out of sheer negligence...
There are other dangers, too... last night I came home and my gf tells me "there was an accident..." I was thinking "ohhh crap!"... ends up she was swinging for a tennis ball a little too enthusiastically and nailed her glass of water so hard it just shattered and went flying everywhere... pfew, thank goodness it was empty:D
I gotta agree with what many have already said... monitor your usage for a while, and then adjust accordingly. I haven't had a swap file in over a year in any of my desktops/workstations (1-2GB of RAM) and with prices of RAM nowadays I don't forsee myself ever needing another swap file again.... and killing that swap file is sooooo liberating:-)
My issues are mainly with the lack of a good multi-threaded interpreter (damn global interpreter lock!!!). Unfortunately, it's my understanding that Guido & Co. don't really think much of threading to begin with...
Hmmmm, does mr. KelliK not realize that maybe cable isn't available everywhere?:) Damn, I mean I live in Montreal (downtown, literally) and believe it or not, cable is *not* available (till august if I'm not mistaken)...
I do agree that PPPoE is a pathetic solution and that there are many better ones... and yes, integration with Linux was a pain in the arse as well... but once you get it working, it's rock solid (at least for me it is). I use a linux gateway (RedHat) box here at home with a kernel-compiled PPPoE solution and I don't remember the last time I got disconnected (well, yes, I do, but I think it was in february:)
The IP changing is not a big issue... by contract, we're "allowed" to run servers if we want to, we just have to understand that our IPs change sometimes (not very often in my case). A dynamic dns provider fixes that. Our local cable provider (Videotron) does not allow you to run servers and I *heard* that they do occasionally check for ftp servers and things... tsk tsk.
There is no noise (at least here). I have both a coordless (digital - built-in filter) and an old nortel phone, and both are quite clear with the provided filters.
It is slow (painfully slow compared to cable sometimes) *but* it's way steadier than cable... I can always get my 110k/sec (unlike cable, where your pirating neighbors can kill your connection!)
Anyhow, I can't wait to install Mandrake 7.1 (ahh, kernel recompile!) as I'm *very* happy with the 7.0 installs I've been doing at work -- and I'm definitely encouraged by the fact that they're integrating a PPPoE solution (means they're listening). Wonder if the fact that one of their developers lives here in Montreal has anything to do with that:)
Oh and a while back I installed XFree86 4.0 and never got it out of 640x480... maybe the Mandrake install can help me with that as well heh
Is that so? A little birdie from within the beast itself (Blizzard) tells me they're aware of the fact that diablo/starcraft DO NOT work from behind a NAT/MASQ server and *might* try to fix it. It has nothing to do with Linux Masq'ing and all to do with how they designed their networking. Take Everquest for example - dozens of people can play behind a MASQ'ed Linux box...(apparently "we" are a special set of people )
And besides, saying "Linux" has it wrong is crazy -- I have yet to find something that does it "right" then (including the "favorites" Sygate and WinGate)
just some quick thoughts (and a little steam -- those lazt bastards!!!)
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Haven't been following these developments too closely, but does anyone know if this jailbreak will eventually (or already does) allow installing a Linux distro on a jailbroken PS3?
Removing the OtherOS option really pissed off a lot of people (including a friend of mine who wanted to try his hand at some Cell development) and while I admit the machine didn't quite seem powerful enough to run full-on X/* comfortably (and forget compiz/etc) it still had its uses for many of us tinkerers (yes yes, small crowd).
He said "last quarter", dude. Yes, we all know there are still more iPhones out there (if that helps you sleep at night), and only God knows how many iTouch devices are out there (they count, they count...). I'm sure he's aware that your favourite platform still PWNZ his :-)
Doesn't change the fact that 886% sales growth (on a platform that isn't just starting) vs 61% is... well, somewhat impressive ;-)
(...and yea, I'm sure most of those are junky 1.5/1.6 devices with low-res screens that aren't worth shit, but...)
You don't get it because you aren't the target demographic. The socially challenged male in his basement with 12 computers (all of which have been stripped to the bare plastic at least twice) and his Gentoo compiling microwave oven doesn't need an iPad.
This is not about being part of the target demographic, this is about how Apple has turned the iPad into a device that is desired beyond any reasonable logic. I... MUST ... HAVE... IPAD. Why? They don't even know. True story, just have to remove the iGlasses and look around.
My 80 year old mother and apparently everyone else in her Assisted Living place are in the iPad demographic and they are falling all over themselves (actually not very hard to do at 80) trying to buy one.
Get over it, dude. Go take something apart.
Wow, my 80 year old grandmother (guess we're from a diff generation huh?) and all her 80 year old "friends" couldn't give a rats ass about technology in general. Guess people are just special where you live, huh?
Nobody believes you, now go away.
Wow... 10 apps (not all free?) to do something 1 browser used to do.
Yep, sounds like a revolution to me.
Go away.
Actually N1 for ATT/Rogers was released a couple of days ago, so that's an option now. N900 works fine on any GSM network (but no 3G).
The "Canadian" TELUS Milestone (Droid) seems to have been rooted, but still no news on custom ROMS (or official 2.1 updates for that matter). I expect it'll arrive eventually though (and the Milestone can be used on all 3 networks).
Perhaps full desktop in under 10 seconds is a bit overly optimistic, but the alpha of 9.10 currently boots (for me) from grub->desktop in 15 seconds flat on my T400s with SSD -- and that 15 seconds includes the time it takes me to type my password! Yep, 15 seconds, and yea, that's "usable" (icons all there, taskbars, heck, even networkmanager is trying to connect to the wifi networks at that point).
So 10 seconds isn't all that far out of reach... they still have >6 months till 10.04 ...
Reaching login screen in 10 seconds? Done that :)
Of course they do... you're not doing Linux (or FOSS in general) any favours by buying a throwaway MS license with your hardware...
I think this is an important fact that cannot be ignored... sure, Microsoft got a (license) sale out of it, but I know a few people now that have purchased one with XP as a "good to have" and then blew the partition away and installed Ubuntu instead. I'm sure they're in the overall minority, but...
A friend of mine just got his shiny Acer Aspire this weekend (with XP, of course) and spent a couple of hours getting Ubuntu up and running how he likes it... why did he buy XP? "you never know when you'll need to run Windows software".
Guess its the same reason why my Ubuntu-powered Thinkpad still has the Vista license sticker underneath... score one sale for MS.
Yes, and no.
While they can spin it very positively, the truth is, at that price you're better off buying a new player... and that's probably what they're hoping too (they are a business, after all...). And what do you do with your old player when you get a new one? ... chuck it. Very environmentally friendly.
If you want people to do the "right thing", you don't charge them through the nose to do it, you have to give them the fewest reasons *not* to do it... and in my book, an outrageous replacement price = reason not to replace.
Besides, when Apple had that massive battery recall a few years back, they sent my gf her new battery but with no way to return her old one (we're on Canada here). When she contacted them to ask how she could return it, they just responded "do whatever you want with it". Nice.
I agree about the lack of easily-accessible programs for recycling :( Our local enviro-coop has their own, but its not obvious...
I second that -- Wing IDE is a pretty slick environment, a couple of my developers really love it. Its quite *fast* (faster than Komodo -- at debugging especially... well, it was when I benched them), has a lot of useful features, and is MADE FOR PYTHON (unlike Eclipse, emacs, etc).
Sadly, its not free...
Curious myself, I found some benchmarks somewhere measuring wireless usage...
http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=3597&article=wireless+and+battery+power
Seems like a "regular" (g/n) wireless radio uses between 0.5W and 1.5W depending on what its doing... while the 5-Gbps device uses 2W while transferring significantly faster (but over a way shorter distance)...
I didn't see any measurements in mW, but whatever.
Well, you're a persistent one :-)
Think "drop-in replacement" for a hard drive, ie. something I can plug into an interface that a hard disk uses, ie. SATA(2) or IDE. No one here was talking about ExpressCard or PCI(e), and neither is Samsung -- that's not the market they're going after with this device!
Point is, the MTRON SSD device that the ggggp mentioned is indeed relevant (its a 'direct' competitor) but FusionIO is not...
I think maybe the gpp was simply trying to point out that FusionIO is not a "hard drive" by today's definition, ie. I cannot simply (easily?) substitute my current laptop drive with a FusionIO card, so they don't really "compete"...
:-(
But yes, I do remember those days... talk about dating myself
And the average home has more computers in it than it did 5 years ago. Who do you know who has only one computer nowadays? Actually, the average CPU nowadays is pretty good at dropping down in power usage when idling (something mostly unheard of in the "mhz race" that characterized the early new millennium). And most people have integrated "video cards" now (ie. built into the motherboard) which use way less power... the 550w PS are for the crazies (extreme minority).
And lets not forget that the ratio of (power efficient) laptops to computers has increased dramatically over the years...
But yea, there are more computers than ever
We can argue about prices, selection, QOS and even the legality of carrier locks. But cellphones are available for everyone, in a wide range of prices, and DRM has little to do with it. You might not get the exact phone you want, but well, such is life. This isn't always true, though... a few years back I purchased the most up to date Treo (the 650) from the only Canadian provider that supports GSM (Rogers) and I chose the "unsubsidized" no-contract full-price version... and it was still locked. I can go to the Palm site right now and look up the most recent phone, and fully unsubsidized it looks like its still locked to Sprint... why? "such is life", you say...
Its just a matter of time before they remove from the market whatever phones we can still purchase unlocked... but by then we'll be so used to it, we won't even notice... "such is life".
Why don't cell phone manufacturers sell these things fully unlocked? (some do, but the high end stuff is usually not available direct from the manufacturer for quite a while!). hint: it has nothing to do with subsidies, and everything to do with behind-the-scene company deals.
Some things are worth fighting for, even if its just silly cell phones
No one said it was the first, article simply talks about how popular this service in particular seems to be at Google (and how it may very well be the biggest service of its type anywhere, but no proof is offered).
:-)
Sheesh, someone is defensive
I think the key words here are "net money"... I'll take my location as an example (Quebec, Canada). Lets say we're paying 0.90$ / liter (its close to that, right now)... a quick google on "taxes on gas in Canada" brings me the following source on tax info (who knows how accurate it is):
http://www.gaspricewatch.com/canadagastaxes.asp
Now, although I'm not 100% sure how the hell we apply all these taxes, I'll assume its as straight-forward as applying the two fed taxe (GST + excise) + the two provincial taxes (the provincial tax actually taxes the federal one in Quebec, go figure...). I probably have the order wrong, but one thing is clear: 0.252$ of that liter are tax right up front (not a percentage thing, but a static number). By taking that off the price of a liter, we're down to 0.648$ / liter.
Now, assuming the standard 6.0% fed tax (its been 6.0% since last summer, so the page is a bit outdated) and 7.5% prov tax (which is applicable on top of the fed tax) we can determine that out of that 0.648$ there is roughly 0.079$ of tax, so it comes out to 0.569$ / liter pre-taxes.
0.569$ is price of a liter pre-tax.
0.331$ is tax that the govts take (0.252$ + 0.079$).
I don't know how a govt works, but I assume that 0.331$ is pretty close to "net money". Assuming it costs the oil company LESS than 0.237$ / liter in overhead (raw costs, transportation, refining, transport, infrastructure, human resources...) then they'll be making more than the govt in "net money", but I have my doubts...
*** I know the grandparent said "federal govt" while I included provincial govt too, but to me its all the same... and yes, this is Canada where we're taxed to hell, and yes, I'm sure my calculations are pretty shady if not completely wrong! ***
How ya liking your new laptop, buddy...
A bribe is a bribe. And I wouldn't put it past Apple to do the same thing, but we're not talking about Apple now, are we? (and yes, there is plenty to be said about Apple as well...)
They probably do share some of the responsibility, but this recall so early in the game is pretty good of them.
:D
I do remember seeing the straps for the first time and going "wow, that's pretty thin..." but its proved to be pretty solid so far (no idea how it will fare after years of use...). A thicker strap would have been nice (and will be...).
I can't help to think how many of these so-called "cases" of flying wiimotes aren't quite as honest expected, however... it'd be pretty easy for me to snap the strap by hand after I accidentally whip my wiimote into my TV out of sheer negligence...
There are other dangers, too... last night I came home and my gf tells me "there was an accident..." I was thinking "ohhh crap!"... ends up she was swinging for a tennis ball a little too enthusiastically and nailed her glass of water so hard it just shattered and went flying everywhere... pfew, thank goodness it was empty
Same problem here, big crashes on Treo650 :-(
Might be that my JVM is old (IBM JVM 2.2.012?) guess I'll see about updating it... older Opera Mini worked ok.
I gotta agree with what many have already said... monitor your usage for a while, and then adjust accordingly. I haven't had a swap file in over a year in any of my desktops/workstations (1-2GB of RAM) and with prices of RAM nowadays I don't forsee myself ever needing another swap file again. ... and killing that swap file is sooooo liberating :-)
My issues are mainly with the lack of a good multi-threaded interpreter (damn global interpreter lock!!!). Unfortunately, it's my understanding that Guido & Co. don't really think much of threading to begin with...
And how is that different than the typical MS zealot claiming Windows is better because "Microsoft says so! Mindcraft said so!"?
I do agree that PPPoE is a pathetic solution and that there are many better ones... and yes, integration with Linux was a pain in the arse as well... but once you get it working, it's rock solid (at least for me it is). I use a linux gateway (RedHat) box here at home with a kernel-compiled PPPoE solution and I don't remember the last time I got disconnected (well, yes, I do, but I think it was in february :)
The IP changing is not a big issue... by contract, we're "allowed" to run servers if we want to, we just have to understand that our IPs change sometimes (not very often in my case). A dynamic dns provider fixes that. Our local cable provider (Videotron) does not allow you to run servers and I *heard* that they do occasionally check for ftp servers and things... tsk tsk.
There is no noise (at least here). I have both a coordless (digital - built-in filter) and an old nortel phone, and both are quite clear with the provided filters.
It is slow (painfully slow compared to cable sometimes) *but* it's way steadier than cable... I can always get my 110k/sec (unlike cable, where your pirating neighbors can kill your connection!)
Anyhow, I can't wait to install Mandrake 7.1 (ahh, kernel recompile!) as I'm *very* happy with the 7.0 installs I've been doing at work -- and I'm definitely encouraged by the fact that they're integrating a PPPoE solution (means they're listening). Wonder if the fact that one of their developers lives here in Montreal has anything to do with that :)
Oh and a while back I installed XFree86 4.0 and never got it out of 640x480... maybe the Mandrake install can help me with that as well heh
And besides, saying "Linux" has it wrong is crazy -- I have yet to find something that does it "right" then (including the "favorites" Sygate and WinGate)
just some quick thoughts (and a little steam -- those lazt bastards!!!)