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Opera Mini 3.0 Now Available
E IS mC(Square) writes "Opera Mini 3.0 is out of beta. The feature list includes RSS integration, a user-interface geared towards mobile devices and small screen size, and it's fast for relatively slower mobile data connections (with picture upload/sharing if you are into it). Requirement for using it: You must have a phone capable of running Java mobile applications and are using an Internet connection (officially supported devices are listed)."
A third grader's essay on some new product? Because that's what it reads like.
Do not attempt to use this version with the Treo 700p. The previous version of Opera Mini worked fine on my Treo but this version crashes the phone repeatedly when I try to use it.
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The feature list includes RSS integration, a user-interface geared towards mobile devices and small screen size, and its fast for relatively slower mobile data connections (with picture upload/sharing if you are into it). Requirement for using it: You must have a phone capable of running Java mobile applications and are using an Internet connection
I wonder if this might be a good choice for older machines as well. Think something like an old 486 or 1st-gen Pentium with 32 or 64 MB RAM and a 13" or 14" monitor. IIRC, there are stripped down versions of Mozilla available for mobiles (I'm not sure how feature complete or mature they are). But as they say, competition is good. Seeing as web browsing is probably the single most common activity, and arguably the best use of an old computer (running a word processor or some similarly resource-intensive application is probably a no-go). You can throw something like DSL on there and use a light-weight WM. I guess the main hangup would be being able to get Java ME running on it.
I'm actually posting this from my SE Z1010 using opera mini 3. This app. is the almost entirely responsible for draining the battery (besides talking). I use it all the time.
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Here's where to download the JVM for Palm if you don't already have it.
The browser is intended to get large-format pages onto a 170x200 pixel screen. In that case, it does admirably. You will certainly get a bill for usage if you don't have a plan.
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While I used Opera Mini 2.0 on my Treo and found it worked very well, the new version 3.0 crashes constantly (which, thanks to the lack of memory protection on the Palm, resets it). Reinstalled the JVM, Opera Mini, etc - no better. Downgraded to 2.0 and all was fine.
.01 updates to its "Mini" product).
Might want to wait for some bug fixes (although Opera doesn't generally push
I don't know what kind of crack I was on, but I suspect it was decaf.
My phone is too old, I kept running out of memory when trying this out. I need a newer phone.
Same problem here, big crashes on Treo650 :-(
Might be that my JVM is old (IBM JVM 2.2.012?) guess I'll see about updating it... older Opera Mini worked ok.
This is an awesome little app. I was never able to load myphonefiles.com on any of the phones and this Opera applet displays it without a problem, even the most complicated pages with inner frames. Very impressive...
Symbian S60 3rd edition own browser is far superior to this..
Not bad..I like the "folding" and the varied image quality..nice.. I'll have to play with it a little more.. But at this point I still like the built in browser better..
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Sure it is. Just press SHIFT-F11 and it switches to small screen mode, which emulates the behavior of Opera (the regular version, not Mini) on cell phones (Symbian, I think).
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Works great on my Samsung SGH-A707
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I never sync my Blackberry in the cradle, if fact I don't think I have the Desktop Manager software installed on my new work laptop. Ever since BES 4 came out there has been little need for it other than stupid apps which don't have an Over The Air install option, and I now just avoid those. So I guess the question is, does anyone have an OTA URL for this?
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The 3-step system download system is actually worth noting. I managed to find every single phone model I (or someone in my family) own and get a detailed message about whether it supports the Basic or Advanced version, possible issues (and this is actually a per model piece of information), they even have versions in my native language. It's great. It's a bit of a contrast to the annoying "suit yourself" release systems often found in other J2ME software websites.
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It looks horrible in Firefox and IE7 as well, perhaps it's not the browsers fault..
I had to get back to the 2.0 version, since the new one kept crashing and freezing the computer. Shouldn't this have been checked more thoroughly? About half of the postings up right now seem to be about it not working correctly...
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It makes my slow connection faster? It's (Note the apostrophe there. You should give 'em a shot. They're useful all over.) a miracle!
Since invariably someone gets these mixed up, there are three main browser types that Opera produces:
Opera Desktop - this is the full-up web browser that you can use on Widows, Mac or Linux (plus a few other Unixes)
Opera Mobile - this uses the same rendering engine, but runs on smaller devices like PDAs and some phones. The DS and Wii browsers are probably based on this version.
Opera Mini - this is the Java-based app that runs on virtually any JVM-capable phone and does a lot of the processing on a proxy server.
That part I noticed. I really need to clean up my CSS code so I can create a separate CSS file for small display devices.
It should "look" fine in Firefox and forget about IE7 since it has bugs (which became noticeable when I fixed the page for IE6). The website looks beautiful on my MacBook but looks like crap on CRT monitors. One of these days I'll get around to a redesign after I clean up the CSS code.
I love it that java guys say java is so fast, small and lean on mobile devices, yet Mysaifu requires 11mb to install on my 6700 and ibm j9 needs 50+mb. Small, my ass. Don't get me started on speed.
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For those needing the jvm for this or similiar devices, get one here:
http://www2s.biglobe.ne.jp/~dat/java/project/jvm/
or
search ibm.com for WebSphere Everyplace Micro Environment (You need to register to download)
Opera 9 also introduced Fit to width mode: CTRL+F11. It's similar, but adjusts pages to your window size rather than to ~200px across and would be more suitable for 640x480 or 800x600 screens.
Couple it with Full Screen mode (F11), and you can even hide all the toolbars, menus, borders, etc.
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After deleting the copy I had installed in the phone's memory, I tried running it from an SD card. It behaved the same way there. Grr.
I should've saved the previous version before installing this one, but I rarely used it. Blazer was more functional and easier to use for most things. For updating my On Tap in Vegas page when out and about, I found that Links running in an SSH session would work.
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Yeah, I know this phone is a dinosaur at this point but it's the on the "supported devices" list. Mine gets stuck at the "loading" screen. The phone itself isn't frozen, just Opera doesn't seem to finish loading.
Anyone had any luck on this phone?
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How about a GPL Java applet that implements an IAX2 client (Asterisk softphone), without any of the proprietary requirements of the few I've seen?
Web browsers are old hat for programmers, and not very sexy for generating corporate action. Softphones are to 2006 what browsers were to 1995. Opera does a good job with lightweight browsers, and wants the mobile/embedded market. Where's it's HTTP/IAX client, that could put it ahead, instead of forever catching up?
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Still looks crap.
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Opera Mini 3.0 Not Available *YAY*
My Sony-Ericsson T610 phone with the lousy R1S001 firmware runs this one ... finally. Opera Mini 2.0 wouldn't function. The integrated "browser" can only handle nearly empty sites a-la 1995 -- I'm looking forward to being able to actually Google for phone numbers et cetera.
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Motorola A1200 Ming. Now to figure out how to remove the default browser from the home screen.
To present a success story, it installed and worked fine for me on a Nokia 6682. It can use the camera and everything. Pretty neat. I haven't tried the RSS reader yet. Otherwise it doesn't really seem very different than 2.0 on the surface.
First of all, you can't expect it to display every website nicely. If you plan on viewing it more often on your cell phone, you should consider designing it for that platform. I think keeping it simple is the best way to go if you want to have it look nice on any mobile device. My San Diego Traffic website looks just fine, but then again there's very litte to fuck up.
I updated Opera on my *Sanyo 4920 last night and I have to say I don't love the new version one bit.
While I've not had a chance to check out the new features, the thing that sticks out is that after any page load, Opera now displays an error screen saying 'The server has closed a connection' or something like that. If I cancel out of the error screen I actually do see the new page loaded. It's weird and annoying and I don't see any reason for such a thing to happen, nor what I can do about it.
I haven't tried the RSS features yet - they may remove the need for most of the browsing in my case - so I am not about to download back to Opera 2.0, but the browsing piece of it definately is flaky. Luckily I have another browser on the phone (the built-in one) so I can experiment.
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Seems to work just fine. I'm at home so bandwidth is poor (in the country) but in the city I am sure it will be fast. Will it slow down during peaks due to use of pre-processing servers? We shall see. Experience is good although takes more clicks then current BB browser to enter new urls, page back, exit application. Has more features though so I suppose this is acceptable.
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I had a previous version of Opera Mini on my Palm TX (I was looking for something better than Blazer) a while back. When I fired it up for the first time it made me agree to their license agreement. I've never been one to blindly accept a license agreement. Now while I normally don't read the whole thing in detail, I'll usually skim a license if it isn't GPL, MPL, etc. I noticed something peculiar in their license (and I forget the details as it has been some time now), regarding the connection. I think something to the effect of they were monitoring some type of statistics. Being curious at this point, I browsed over to my website (using Opera Mini) and then viewed the logs to see if the connection came from my IP or another... It came from another IP! DNS lookup showed that this connection came from and opera IP address. I promptly removed the browser from my Palm and haven't touched it since.
Congratulations Slashdot on being a full day late on this "news" ...you guys must really be slipping.
They have to use a proxy because they run the rendering engine in their servers in order to send a small and handheld friendly page to your device.
As most cell phone companies bill you by the kilobyte, this results in HUGE savings there. Do you see the point?
And no, Opera Mini is not spyware.
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Opera Mini - this is the Java-based app that runs on virtually any JVM-capable phone and does a lot of the processing on a proxy server.
... who's paying for the proxy server, and why?
So
Call me a bit jaded, but I try not to use anything until I can at least figure out what their business model is. Last I checked, Opera is commercial software, at least nominally. What's their take from all this?
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Posting from OM3 right now! Finally, it correctly detects and works with the US tmobileweb service. WooHoo!
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Tried out opera mini this morning on my N80. I recommend sticking with the N80's built in browser as it is fairly capable as rendering full website. Maybe use opera mini if you are have to use a GPRS connection.
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Actually, some cell service providers offer data padding as part of their service, even if you don't have a data plan. Unicel is one such provider. 2MB of data transfer is included in all of their plans. IMHO, this should be a standard feature of all cellular plans, if only to prevent those nickel-and-dime charges when people accidentally start up the provider's prominently-placed, ringtone-vending, data-using application.
In real world use, between my Motorola V505's WAP browser, email client, and Opera Mini 2.0, and occasional Google Mobile (GMaps for phone) I don't come anywhere near that 2MB bucket in a month.