Well, not quite. A number of e-mail clients on the Mac treated e-mail addresses as 'objects' well before Mac OE. It was the natural evolution of Apple's push from Drag-and-Drop functionality across the OS from MacOS 7 onwards (which was on-going from 1990-97 and beyond). Off the top of my head an example would be MailDrop from Baylor Univ. doing this well before OE was even released.
I've been experimenting with this for the past year and a bit in an educational WIN32 environment, and there are two issues which you to think about very carefully:
1) 1.1.x versions of Oo.org are non-trivial to configure sensibly on multi-user computers in a lab environment. The workstation installer needs to be run for each user, and while it can be automated, its less than neat. The 2.0 version is much better in this respect, as the workstation installation step is only accepting the EULA and few 'Next' clicks.
2) Speed. If your environment is anything like ours you will have a wide span of available hardware (5 year replacement cycle is pretty common), and on anything more than 3 years old Oo.org is painfully slow, especially starting up, and especially compared to what's most commonly on these machines already: Office 97 or 2000.
The last point should give you a clue to the most realistic approach to this. Determine if you really need maintenance on Office. We decided many years ago that we didn't, and we have yet to come across a feature in XP or 2003 which we genuinely need. Our volume license agreement gives us downgrade rights, so we always buy licenses for the latest version when machines are added, but we install 2000 on everything, and it works well on older sub-500MHz PIII hardware, which Oo.org unfortunately doesn't.
You think it does this already? It would be much better if it actually did do this. We have (certainly until SP2) had the hardest time to get XP to even remember the encryption keys to a single wireless network without problems.
Argumentation be selective quoting; how mature. the bit you missed out from the message you quoted doesn't paint such a clear picture if you continue reading:"the question of which parts of the license (if any) fail the DFSG is still somewhat open"
Thus my conclusion of 'vaguely hinted at'. Show me a link to a debian-legal thread where this agreeded upon if you want to prove otherwise.
Debian really needs to sort their shit out on APSL2. There is far too much fallout from petty hang-ups from individuals with relatively vaguely argued opinions, and this 289856 bug entry for howl demonstrates it amply: Vague uncertainties about the status of APSL2, suggestions that it be discussed ignored by those who don't like it, and steps taken towards removal.
APSL2 is now both OSI approved and deemed "ok to use and improve software which other people release under this license" http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/apsl.html by the FSF. Any objections Debian people have against it should now be strongly justified rather than vaguely hinted at, so we can stop getting these silly bug reports which escalate a vague licence issue to full-scale removal without a proper discussion.
That's not to say that science and politics shouldn't be mixed this way. It's bad. But it happens on BOTH SIDES of the political line.
That's makes it alright then; two wrongs make a right etc?
You guys want to stop this? Good. But first realize this is not just a Bush/Republican problem... This is a SYSTEM WIDE problem.
Be it a system wide problem or not, until you provide an alternative solution, the problem is in the lap of the current administration, as only it has the power to fix it (and by extension the responsibility to do so).
I'm not impressed with the presentation of the 'dimmed menu bug' argument. It appears to grasp the wrong end of the stick. ie. If Today, it can take users upwards of an hour to even a few days to figure out why an option is dimmed, often involving calls to the vendor. the problem is with the functionality of the user interface, because the user is expecting to be able to do something which the program isn't. The dimmed menu isn't the underlying cause of the problem and it doesn't advance matters significantly to blame it across the board. Anyone using a well designed program don't care why a menu item is dimmed at a particular point because they aren't expecting to use it. The difference is therefore not the dimming in itself.
I went to a local 'Demo Day' last week where one of the local suppliers of all things PC had a BTX case they were showing off. I simply assumed these things had been out for a while, and noted that (this particular case) was wasting the raiser-board, since it didn't include a PCI slot which would have allowed the addition of a full height PCI card horizontally (the vertical slots were all half-height).
You are think of Hobson's Choice, named after the owner of a livery stable in Cambridge who would let customers choose any horse they wanted as long as it was the one closest to the door. Hobbesian would normally be in reference to the philosopher Thomas Hobbes who is unrelated to this expression.
"Begging the question" is a fallacy of reasoning. Simple rule of thumb for those who don't want to understand what it means: don't suggested that you want to "beg the question" because whether you use it correctly or not you come across as a fool.
I've been running a firewall with 'audio feedback' for quite a while now. Back then I wanted a filtering bridge, and the simplest way to do it was to scrounge a PC, some SMC network cards, and download the free version of KarlBridge which could do this. One of the tricks used in this software was to use the 'sound' connector on old PC motherboards (from when they could only make beeping noises) to drive an 'activity' LED instead of that speaker. Unfortunately, the computer I choose for this had a little speaker attached directly to the motherboard, and I had no greate urge to de-solder it, so I decided to just leave it as it was. This bridge is still running great, and whenever I'm in the coms cupboard where this lives, I can hear the network activity clicking away like a geiger counter, since that is pretty much the kind of noise it makes.
What would your interested in a multi-media device with a colour screen be then?
I think Jobs hit the nail on the head when he pointed out that portable video devices are not logical extensions to portable audio devices. Watching something is not similar enough to listening to something to make this an obviously meaningful product.
Since it hasn't been mentioned here yet, I would say that one of the 'sleeper' functionalities in the Airport Express is that it can act as a wireless repeater: if that is seamless, this could be a very handy little product indeed.
If your computer isn't too far away, just use your mobile as the remote and/or display. Bluetooth and Salinger Clicker or Romeo will give you what is effectively a remote with a display.
Since we are discussing good communication, have you ever wondered what articles idiots use?
It is also probably worth keeping in mind that the English language is such that if you keep repeating that a word "is not a word in the English language" chances are very high that it will eventually become so. "Irregardless" is in the OED, regardless of what we think of its worthiness.
Nordea in Norway (used to be Kreditkassen) and Postbanken have been issued these calculator looking devices since the very beginning. You log in with a time-limited password obtained from the device by entering a PIN. It changes every few minutes. No printed codes that's for sure.
I've always wondered why there isn't a Live-CD/Knoppix type distribution for this kind of thing: ie. Something will boot an old PC taking up space and present whatever disks are in it as a file store on a network (w/user management, and RAID/LVM etc. if it wanted to be fancy).
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Quoting Dan Crevier:
* We did innovate in this space in MacOE.
Well, not quite. A number of e-mail clients on the Mac treated e-mail addresses as 'objects' well before Mac OE. It was the natural evolution of Apple's push from Drag-and-Drop functionality across the OS from MacOS 7 onwards (which was on-going from 1990-97 and beyond). Off the top of my head an example would be MailDrop from Baylor Univ. doing this well before OE was even released.
I've been experimenting with this for the past year and a bit in an educational WIN32 environment, and there are two issues which you to think about very carefully:
1) 1.1.x versions of Oo.org are non-trivial to configure sensibly on multi-user computers in a lab environment. The workstation installer needs to be run for each user, and while it can be automated, its less than neat. The 2.0 version is much better in this respect, as the workstation installation step is only accepting the EULA and few 'Next' clicks.
2) Speed. If your environment is anything like ours you will have a wide span of available hardware (5 year replacement cycle is pretty common), and on anything more than 3 years old Oo.org is painfully slow, especially starting up, and especially compared to what's most commonly on these machines already: Office 97 or 2000.
The last point should give you a clue to the most realistic approach to this. Determine if you really need maintenance on Office. We decided many years ago that we didn't, and we have yet to come across a feature in XP or 2003 which we genuinely need. Our volume license agreement gives us downgrade rights, so we always buy licenses for the latest version when machines are added, but we install 2000 on everything, and it works well on older sub-500MHz PIII hardware, which Oo.org unfortunately doesn't.
You think it does this already? It would be much better if it actually did do this. We have (certainly until SP2) had the hardest time to get XP to even remember the encryption keys to a single wireless network without problems.
Argumentation be selective quoting; how mature. the bit you missed out from the message you quoted doesn't paint such a clear picture if you continue reading:"the question of which parts of the license (if any) fail the DFSG is still somewhat open"
Thus my conclusion of 'vaguely hinted at'. Show me a link to a debian-legal thread where this agreeded upon if you want to prove otherwise.
Debian really needs to sort their shit out on APSL2. There is far too much fallout from petty hang-ups from individuals with relatively vaguely argued opinions, and this 289856 bug entry for howl demonstrates it amply: Vague uncertainties about the status of APSL2, suggestions that it be discussed ignored by those who don't like it, and steps taken towards removal.
APSL2 is now both OSI approved and deemed "ok to use and improve software which other people release under this license" http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/apsl.html by the FSF. Any objections Debian people have against it should now be strongly justified rather than vaguely hinted at, so we can stop getting these silly bug reports which escalate a vague licence issue to full-scale removal without a proper discussion.
That's not to say that science and politics shouldn't be mixed this way. It's bad. But it happens on BOTH SIDES of the political line.
That's makes it alright then; two wrongs make a right etc?
You guys want to stop this? Good. But first realize this is not just a Bush/Republican problem... This is a SYSTEM WIDE problem.
Be it a system wide problem or not, until you provide an alternative solution, the problem is in the lap of the current administration, as only it has the power to fix it (and by extension the responsibility to do so).
....get with the proper scalable paper sizes. Any geek would revel in the rationality of the ISO A-type paper sizes
Even more telling is how most Colleges charge exorbitant fees for local and long distance phone calls from student dorm phones.
Don't all Colleges have free long-distance as a cost-saving measure: Dartmouth Ends Billing for Phone Calls
There is one around here which probably represents the barest minimum of efforts as the SSID set to: asdf-ghjk
It is WEP-protected, but I'm not holding my breath on key security.
I'm not impressed with the presentation of the 'dimmed menu bug' argument. It appears to grasp the wrong end of the stick. ie. If Today, it can take users upwards of an hour to even a few days to figure out why an option is dimmed, often involving calls to the vendor. the problem is with the functionality of the user interface, because the user is expecting to be able to do something which the program isn't. The dimmed menu isn't the underlying cause of the problem and it doesn't advance matters significantly to blame it across the board. Anyone using a well designed program don't care why a menu item is dimmed at a particular point because they aren't expecting to use it. The difference is therefore not the dimming in itself.
I went to a local 'Demo Day' last week where one of the local suppliers of all things PC had a BTX case they were showing off. I simply assumed these things had been out for a while, and noted that (this particular case) was wasting the raiser-board, since it didn't include a PCI slot which would have allowed the addition of a full height PCI card horizontally (the vertical slots were all half-height).
You are think of Hobson's Choice, named after the owner of a livery stable in Cambridge who would let customers choose any horse they wanted as long as it was the one closest to the door. Hobbesian would normally be in reference to the philosopher Thomas Hobbes who is unrelated to this expression.
It raises the question.
"Begging the question" is a fallacy of reasoning. Simple rule of thumb for those who don't want to understand what it means: don't suggested that you want to "beg the question" because whether you use it correctly or not you come across as a fool.
I've been running a firewall with 'audio feedback' for quite a while now. Back then I wanted a filtering bridge, and the simplest way to do it was to scrounge a PC, some SMC network cards, and download the free version of KarlBridge which could do this. One of the tricks used in this software was to use the 'sound' connector on old PC motherboards (from when they could only make beeping noises) to drive an 'activity' LED instead of that speaker. Unfortunately, the computer I choose for this had a little speaker attached directly to the motherboard, and I had no greate urge to de-solder it, so I decided to just leave it as it was. This bridge is still running great, and whenever I'm in the coms cupboard where this lives, I can hear the network activity clicking away like a geiger counter, since that is pretty much the kind of noise it makes.
I don't look, I listen!
What would your interested in a multi-media device with a colour screen be then?
I think Jobs hit the nail on the head when he pointed out that portable video devices are not logical extensions to portable audio devices. Watching something is not similar enough to listening to something to make this an obviously meaningful product.
Since it hasn't been mentioned here yet, I would say that one of the 'sleeper' functionalities in the Airport Express is that it can act as a wireless repeater: if that is seamless, this could be a very handy little product indeed.
If your computer isn't too far away, just use your mobile as the remote and/or display. Bluetooth and Salinger Clicker or Romeo will give you what is effectively a remote with a display.
Since we are discussing good communication, have you ever wondered what articles idiots use?
It is also probably worth keeping in mind that the English language is such that if you keep repeating that a word "is not a word in the English language" chances are very high that it will eventually become so. "Irregardless" is in the OED, regardless of what we think of its worthiness.
"The Auto Sync feature was developed to enable users to quickly and easily take the content they want, wherever they want."
except wherever and whenever DRM won't allow it of course.
Someone could be in for a rude shock!
Nordea in Norway (used to be Kreditkassen) and Postbanken have been issued these calculator looking devices since the very beginning. You log in with a time-limited password obtained from the device by entering a PIN. It changes every few minutes. No printed codes that's for sure.
I've always wondered why there isn't a Live-CD/Knoppix type distribution for this kind of thing: ie. Something will boot an old PC taking up space and present whatever disks are in it as a file store on a network (w/user management, and RAID/LVM etc. if it wanted to be fancy).
The MVC pattern was invented by Trygve Reenskaug and later implemented for the SmallTalk-80 class library by others at Xerox Park.
"iTunes is incapable of displaying file types"
Give these guys a thesaurus! What do they think the "kind" column is for in "view options"?
And is it really worth reading a review that sees anything worthwhile in: "The 3.4-ounce iPod Mini has more EQ selections than any other player"?
As long as Apple sells iPods as quickly as they are produced their price IS the market value (or below).