Wouldn't the first use of an embedded OSX be the already announced iTV?
Yegods! Insightful?
Don't you think iTV will use an almost bog standard version of OS X? It's a computer connected to a TV, with a remote control. It's not going to be much different from what loads of people do with their mac mini already.
they do not have the proper permissions for under copyright law.
Are you talking US or Russian copyright law?
do not collect the proper royalty rate then it's illegal, period.
Incorrect, in parts of the world, it is perfectly legal (due to copyright expired after 50 years) to distribute (without paying any royalties) works still copyrighted in the US.
International copyright law is not simple, period.
ese drivers and hooks are left behind when you uninstall iTunes. Having those drivers still in there makes it impossible to do a repair or in-place upgrade from the CD if Windows gets corrupt.
I've never heard that before. Is this documented anywhere?
Hmmmmn, while we should indeed go after the anti-virus vendors, I think the next step should be to ask why some sony exec isn't recieving jail time for deliberate malware distribution to millions of PCs.
1) Google may also have contractual obligations with copyright holders that prevent putting the content in an open format.
2) If point 1 can be overcome & Google could see a competitive advantage over MS's book scanning effort in opening the content then perhaps they'd try it after all...
Because Dell is touted by PC fanboys as the ultimate affordable PCs.
Really? I thought they were used to demonstrate mac vs a middle of the line wintel affordability. I believe Asus PCs, (manufactured by the same chinese factory workers [1]) as Macs are cheaper than Dells. White box [2] PCs are even cheaper.
That, and the superior hardware and software, such as Mac OS X and iLife.
Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzt! You said hardware & only listed software.
that OS X is superior to Windows.
Well, at least we agree on something!
But again, enjoy your 25+ year old BIOS and your incredibly lame operating system--Windows or Linux.
But, but, what if I run netBSD on a mac? Am I using a mac or a PC? Is it still a really lame system? Does the hardware suck now I've put netBSD on it? Is it a PC if I boot into windows?
[1] Our foreign factory workers are only forced to work more than 60 hours a week over the christmas period -Apple Spokesperson
[2] Ironic that whitebox is used to describe cheap non-mac PCs huh?
It seems to be the fate of those who try to help others to be constantly pushed away. The first step to solving your social etiquette problems is to admit to them (and accept my help in resolving them).
The fact that you've selectively quoted to misrepresent the grandparent's point (again!) shows that its advice you're not prepared to take yourself.
*sighs* I guess the best I can do is continue to help you out. Remember - when I point out your shortcomings in a friendly way, I'm just doing my best to be helpful:-x
Dude, what is your fucking problem? Did Steve jobs steal your girlfriend or something?
Oh stop taking yourself so seriously. You seem to think its OK for you to openly insult other communities, but the second someone has a little harmless fun with you, you act like you're being persecuted.
If I were you, I'd consider growing up a little, stop being such a condescending smartass on slashdot (and admit you're wrong when you're wrong). Then you'll get some of the respect you clearly crave.
PS. I have a spare closing tag for italics if you need to borrow one in future;-)
'Are people going to trust the green more than white? Yes, they will,' says Avivah Litan, an analyst at Gartner Inc. and an expert on online payments and fraud.
WTF? Shouldn't that read:
'Are people going to notice the green or than white? No, they wont,' says WMF, an analyst at slashdot Inc. and an expert on stupid punditry.
On a slightly different note, I think the submitter has gotten the new expensive secure certs gold-rush/scam confused with the anti-phishing tech. Not surprising 'cause the article melds them together in a rather confusing manner.
If the big US hosting companies, search engines and content aggregators are prepared to cope with vicarious copyright infringement threats (which is what took down the original napster) why not this?
Did you read the last few lines of tfa?
"Mp3s4free was different in the sense that it actually catalogued MP3 files that were infringing copyright material - Google doesn't do that," she said.
"There is, however, action that is being taken against Google in other jurisdictions, and we're awaiting that eagerly."
I'm no copyright lawyer, yet alone an Australian one, but seriously.... the attitude displayed by the prosecuting lawyer & judge is....scary
Kazaa and Napster didn't actually provide the content either. The idea of extending this to imply that all Australian ISP's are in danger is retarded.
You didn't get what I said at all did you? Napster/etc are the equivilant to mp3s4free.net (the charges against whom, as I said was sad, but understandable).
However, the hosting ISP was also charged. Can you see how charging a hosting provider for hosted content has implications for the wider industry?
While it's sad that someone has been done merely for linking to "illegal" music [1], the real tragedy of this ruling is that the hosting ISP was also dragged into the mess (from TFA):
In yesterday's Cooper judgment, the ISP that hosted the website, E-Talk, was also found to be guilty of authorising copyright infringement.
The court found that E-Talk profited from the copyright infringement of mp3s4free.net's users through advertisements on the website and took no efforts to take the site down.
"E-Talk countenanced the infringing downloading by internet users who visited the website that it hosted," the court held.
Sorry Australians, no more internet for you. As soon as legal departments look at this, expect all your big ISPs, Yahoo, Google, MySpace, etc to all flee Australian shores.
[1] Although frankly, with a site called mp3s4free.net what the hell did he expect?
(could've probably done it from another computer if I had enabled CD Text).
Hmmmmmn, fair enough - cd-text support was introduced with itunes 7 (just 9 years late - thanks Apple!). I haven't used itunes for ages so didn't know.
Doesn't really take away from my point that removing the DRM from a large amount of ITMS DRM-encrusted songs is a non-trivial task & not the cakewalk the ITMS fanbois make it out to be.
- Songs purchased from iTunes can be burned to CD (and thus stripped of all DRM) an unlimited number of times
Imagine having a 1000+ collection of itms songs, then your iPod's battery dies.
You can:
1) Buy a new ipod.
2) Buy $other_shiney_player, burn the songs to 100 cds, then laboriously remp3ify them, then tediously type in the id3 tag information. For 1000 songs. (Oh what fun). How long will that take?
Which option would you choose? Maybe the iPod is the best player on the market now, so the choice is a no-brainer, but it's not likely to be the best player forever. At that point, you're tied to the ipod.
Slashdot Mirror
Evergreen is available online, have a look yourself: here
(system seems a little slow already, hopefully this doesn't slashdot it).
Well, of course a group of librarians at the Georgia Public Library Service like open source!
Wouldn't the first use of an embedded OSX be the already announced iTV?
Yegods! Insightful?
Don't you think iTV will use an almost bog standard version of OS X? It's a computer connected to a TV, with a remote control. It's not going to be much different from what loads of people do with their mac mini already.
Indeed, but reading the article rather than the summary:
It could just be a pared down Aqua running on a different kernel (Linux, qnx, symbian, WinCE?).
Heck, a line that vague, could be describing just about anything.
they do not have the proper permissions for under copyright law.
Are you talking US or Russian copyright law?
do not collect the proper royalty rate then it's illegal, period.
Incorrect, in parts of the world, it is perfectly legal (due to copyright expired after 50 years) to distribute (without paying any royalties) works still copyrighted in the US.
International copyright law is not simple, period.
It leaves the upper and lower filter drivers on the CD-ROM in place
When you completely uninstall itunes? Anywhere this is documented?
Thank God it's no longer compulsory!
Thanks MS!
ese drivers and hooks are left behind when you uninstall iTunes. Having those drivers still in there makes it impossible to do a repair or in-place upgrade from the CD if Windows gets corrupt.
I've never heard that before. Is this documented anywhere?
Hmmmmn, while we should indeed go after the anti-virus vendors, I think the next step should be to ask why some sony exec isn't recieving jail time for deliberate malware distribution to millions of PCs.
Hate to reply to myself, but I should have added:
1) Google may also have contractual obligations with copyright holders that prevent putting the content in an open format.
2) If point 1 can be overcome & Google could see a competitive advantage over MS's book scanning effort in opening the content then perhaps they'd try it after all...
Can't Google just Open Source the project?
Well, the source of the code running the project wouldn't be that helpful, it's the content we're after.
And presuming you meant Google opening the content.... well I doubt it... they want to sell ads on the content after all!
Don't forget, google nice tho' they are haven't given out code/content/etc for any of their "crown jewels"
Because Dell is touted by PC fanboys as the ultimate affordable PCs.
Really? I thought they were used to demonstrate mac vs a middle of the line wintel affordability. I believe Asus PCs, (manufactured by the same chinese factory workers [1]) as Macs are cheaper than Dells. White box [2] PCs are even cheaper.
That, and the superior hardware and software, such as Mac OS X and iLife.
Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzt! You said hardware & only listed software.
that OS X is superior to Windows.
Well, at least we agree on something!
But again, enjoy your 25+ year old BIOS and your incredibly lame operating system--Windows or Linux.
But, but, what if I run netBSD on a mac? Am I using a mac or a PC? Is it still a really lame system? Does the hardware suck now I've put netBSD on it? Is it a PC if I boot into windows?
[1] Our foreign factory workers are only forced to work more than 60 hours a week over the christmas period -Apple Spokesperson
[2] Ironic that whitebox is used to describe cheap non-mac PCs huh?
would you know?
Of course I would know!
*sighs*again*
It seems to be the fate of those who try to help others to be constantly pushed away. The first step to solving your social etiquette problems is to admit to them (and accept my help in resolving them).
Good advice, you should take it.
:-x
The fact that you've selectively quoted to misrepresent the grandparent's point (again!) shows that its advice you're not prepared to take yourself.
*sighs* I guess the best I can do is continue to help you out. Remember - when I point out your shortcomings in a friendly way, I'm just doing my best to be helpful
You even used bad grammar and spelling, like a Slashdot editor!
Yuo say that as if Im capable of something else using!
Dude, what is your fucking problem? Did Steve jobs steal your girlfriend or something?
;-)
Oh stop taking yourself so seriously. You seem to think its OK for you to openly insult other communities, but the second someone has a little harmless fun with you, you act like you're being persecuted.
If I were you, I'd consider growing up a little, stop being such a condescending smartass on slashdot (and admit you're wrong when you're wrong). Then you'll get some of the respect you clearly crave.
PS. I have a spare closing tag for italics if you need to borrow one in future
'Are people going to trust the green more than white? Yes, they will,' says Avivah Litan, an analyst at Gartner Inc. and an expert on online payments and fraud.
WTF? Shouldn't that read:
'Are people going to notice the green or than white? No, they wont,' says WMF, an analyst at slashdot Inc. and an expert on stupid punditry.
On a slightly different note, I think the submitter has gotten the new expensive secure certs gold-rush/scam confused with the anti-phishing tech. Not surprising 'cause the article melds them together in a rather confusing manner.
Did you read the last few lines of tfa?
I'm no copyright lawyer, yet alone an Australian one, but seriously.... the attitude displayed by the prosecuting lawyer & judge is....scary
Kazaa and Napster didn't actually provide the content either.
The idea of extending this to imply that all Australian ISP's are in danger is retarded.
You didn't get what I said at all did you? Napster/etc are the equivilant to mp3s4free.net (the charges against whom, as I said was sad, but understandable).
However, the hosting ISP was also charged. Can you see how charging a hosting provider for hosted content has implications for the wider industry?
Sorry Australians, no more internet for you. As soon as legal departments look at this, expect all your big ISPs, Yahoo, Google, MySpace, etc to all flee Australian shores.
[1] Although frankly, with a site called mp3s4free.net what the hell did he expect?
Or just induction couplings. No contacts needed.
Induction coupling is your solution to supplying electricity to a tower block?
Do you have any idea how inefficient that is?
(Of course not, you're an ex-apple engineer, efficiency is irrelevant to you).
Oh for Gods sake, try to reply to the substance of the post, not a tangent.
You need to replace your iPod (for whatever reason), a library of ITMS songs is a barrier to a non-ipod purchase. (for the reasons stated in my OP)
The larger the library, the larger the barrier.
(could've probably done it from another computer if I had enabled CD Text).
Hmmmmmn, fair enough - cd-text support was introduced with itunes 7 (just 9 years late - thanks Apple!). I haven't used itunes for ages so didn't know.
Doesn't really take away from my point that removing the DRM from a large amount of ITMS DRM-encrusted songs is a non-trivial task & not the cakewalk the ITMS fanbois make it out to be.
- Songs purchased from iTunes can be burned to CD (and thus stripped of all DRM) an unlimited number of times
Imagine having a 1000+ collection of itms songs, then your iPod's battery dies.
You can:
1) Buy a new ipod.
2) Buy $other_shiney_player, burn the songs to 100 cds, then laboriously remp3ify them, then tediously type in the id3 tag information. For 1000 songs. (Oh what fun). How long will that take?
Which option would you choose? Maybe the iPod is the best player on the market now, so the choice is a no-brainer, but it's not likely to be the best player forever. At that point, you're tied to the ipod.