Obeying robots.txt files is voluntary, after all, and if the company didn't want the information online, they shouldn't have put it there in the first place."
I want a search engine that only indexes items excluded in the robots.txt file:-)
And who is going to guarantee that they will not prevent anything from publication if it does not fit administrators' political, religious views or outlook on life ?
Noone's going to guarantee that. It's wikipedia, there are no guarantees.
The question is whether ngoing vandalism outweighs the potential for abuse by the administrators. German wikipedia appears to think it is. We shall see.
And while following RMS's rules would indeed restrict choice
Yes, but without a whip to enforce those rules, all RMS has done is extend the choices available to you - the very opposite of the OPs definition of 'fascism'.
tho "control freak" would not be out of line.
Hmmmmmmmn, perhaps, there's certainly a gleam of zealotry in Stallmans eyes, but perhaps we should judge on his actions, rather than our perceptions. His actions have been to:
1) Not restrict people's choice. Just strongly stating (correctly or incorrectly) that you lose freedoms using proprietary sofware. 2) Extend software licensing options for developers & users.
BTW, nice debating this with someone who doesn't have to resort to made up links & childishness:-)
God it's slow! Prevented me from getting my usual first post.
I suggest you download the black themed browzar - simply because they don't charge a $150 premium just to change the color to black like some other companies;-)
netBSDs advantage over other BSDs is that it's portable. It's not so fast as freeBSD, not as secure as openBSD, but much easier to port to a new architecture than either.
I presume you're a windows user who doesn't see the advantage of portability;-)
Why would you buy an expensive computer that comes with an OS just to buy (or pirate) another OS when you could have bought a cheaper computer with your OS of choice? Is it 'cuz Macs are sooo pretty? How dumb are people with their money?
Pretty dumb.
That said some mac configurations are pretty hard to get in that ff from another vendor. It's the 13" that people seem to be getting - and purely for the weight.
If it was me buying, I'd probably go for the equivilant Asustek model. Smaller, lighter, made in the same factory, cheaper.
I really just wanted to respond to this article with a gigantic Simpson-esque "HA HA".
Indeed - it's ridiculous. You notice the weasel way they have to qualify things as well:
By mid-2008, Apple's sales of systems with factory-installed Apple UNIX will exceed the total combined sales of x86 systems factory-shipped with commercial Linux.
That could mean that 90% of x86 systems will be bare bones by 2008, as OEMs will choose their own version of linux to install;-)
It is short sighted to only take sales into account when comparing OS use.
Absolutely. Sales data!=Market share.
And just to bring that point home, OS X fans believe OS X's share of the market is rising because Mac sales are rising. One does not lead to the other.
Everyone I know who's 'switched' to a mac has bought it expressly to run windows. Sad, but true.
More like Greenpeace wanted some attention, and decided to get it by bashing a company that gets a lot more press than they do.
1) Strawman. Please debate points in the report, not attack the authors. 2) Greenpeace didn't criticise Apple any more than they criticised any other low scoring company. 3) If Greenpeace's methodology was flawed, it was flawed across all companies. Apple scored very low on the same criteria other tech companies performed well on.
I agree with the GP. Gore should put his money where his mouth is & use his position on Apple's board to start some real green policies at Apple.
he was wrong about the amount of money I supposedly spent on OS X.
1) Dumbass - he said 'that you'd be paying out $750'. What you would pay, not what you have paid. 2) Dumbass - dont refer to yourself in the first person when you're not logged in.
I've always gotten the *impression* that RMS would like to ban closed software
Hmmmn, yes, it's an easy impression to get - RMS vehemently wants proprietary software gone. However, the GP poster went further, saying RMS was a fascist for attempting to restrict his choice.
As RMS has done nothing, nor advocated anything to restrict choice, I don't see how you can call RMS a fascist.
First lie: It's not my problem if you refuse to comprehend the first interview I posted or explore the other links I gave.
You gave one link that did not back you up. You gave no other links, just alluded to a vague google search. (Google returns different results for different parts of the world, you have to be specific)
Second lie: Long-term memory retention, little man. You said OS X relies on the entire GNU toolset. It doesn't.
Let's revisit what I said.
just creating a better alternative (one os x relies on).
Nope, doesn't look like I mentioned the GNU toolchain at all.
How many of the tiger updates were changes to desktop artwork
I know. You've made the decision to buy a mac, not realising that you'd be paying out $750 over 5 years to keep your system up to date. You've got to make it look like you've done the right thing.
Aaaah, the old code for - I've wrong, but don't want to admit it.
If you don't see the difference between a clear committment to phase out PVC by a specific time & a vague promise to phase out PVC, then fine.
On a slightly different note - you realize that nokia have completely eliminated PVCs from their line?" If apple was as green & good as you say, perhaps they'd do the same. (they could start with their ipod line, of a similar size to most of nokia's products.
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I want a search engine that only indexes items excluded in the robots.txt file
But people installing dozens of Linux distributions and finally returning to Windows or Mac OS X does?
Thats just as hard to measure. In case you missed it, the point of my post was that installed OS numbers are nigh on impossible to measure.
And who is going to guarantee that they will not prevent anything from publication if it does not fit administrators' political, religious views or outlook on life ?
Noone's going to guarantee that. It's wikipedia, there are no guarantees.
The question is whether ngoing vandalism outweighs the potential for abuse by the administrators. German wikipedia appears to think it is. We shall see.
And while following RMS's rules would indeed restrict choice
:-)
Yes, but without a whip to enforce those rules, all RMS has done is extend the choices available to you - the very opposite of the OPs definition of 'fascism'.
tho "control freak" would not be out of line.
Hmmmmmmmn, perhaps, there's certainly a gleam of zealotry in Stallmans eyes, but perhaps we should judge on his actions, rather than our perceptions. His actions have been to:
1) Not restrict people's choice. Just strongly stating (correctly or incorrectly) that you lose freedoms using proprietary sofware.
2) Extend software licensing options for developers & users.
BTW, nice debating this with someone who doesn't have to resort to made up links & childishness
God it's slow! Prevented me from getting my usual first post.
;-)
I suggest you download the black themed browzar - simply because they don't charge a $150 premium just to change the color to black like some other companies
Hmmmmn, I think you read my post out of context?
;-)
netBSDs advantage over other BSDs is that it's portable. It's not so fast as freeBSD, not as secure as openBSD, but much easier to port to a new architecture than either.
I presume you're a windows user who doesn't see the advantage of portability
The great advantage that NetBSD had was its fast and secure network facilities.
What? I thought netBSDs big advantage was portability.
Bye-bye NetBSD, it was good while it lasted.
netBSDs not going anywhere.
Was my lexical pick apart of your statement any more helpful to the actual point than yours of the GP?
OK - point taken, I just found the GPs post a little silly & offtopic, but I should reserve the bzzzzt noises for actual trolls.
Yahoo and MSN show results. Google does not. Good to see they're doing no evil.
;-)
Haven't you heard? Google CEO joins Apple Board.
Google have given up on 'do no evil' in favour of joining Apple
iTunes wasn't cracked. Fairplay DRM was cracked.
Or
iTunes wasn't cracked. The DRM shackling people to itunes was cracked.
Why would you buy an expensive computer that comes with an OS just to buy (or pirate) another OS when you could have bought a cheaper computer with your OS of choice? Is it 'cuz Macs are sooo pretty? How dumb are people with their money?
Pretty dumb.
That said some mac configurations are pretty hard to get in that ff from another vendor. It's the 13" that people seem to be getting - and purely for the weight.
If it was me buying, I'd probably go for the equivilant Asustek model. Smaller, lighter, made in the same factory, cheaper.
Indeed - it's ridiculous. You notice the weasel way they have to qualify things as well:
That could mean that 90% of x86 systems will be bare bones by 2008, as OEMs will choose their own version of linux to install
It is short sighted to only take sales into account when comparing OS use.
Absolutely. Sales data!=Market share.
And just to bring that point home, OS X fans believe OS X's share of the market is rising because Mac sales are rising. One does not lead to the other.
Everyone I know who's 'switched' to a mac has bought it expressly to run windows. Sad, but true.
At $4.50/box x 5 boxes per week, I think smoking the real deal might be a bit cheaper.
;-)
If you're eating five boxes of waffles slathered in molasses a week, then I think smoking the real deal might be a bit healthier!
More like Greenpeace wanted some attention, and decided to get it by bashing a company that gets a lot more press than they do.
1) Strawman. Please debate points in the report, not attack the authors.
2) Greenpeace didn't criticise Apple any more than they criticised any other low scoring company.
3) If Greenpeace's methodology was flawed, it was flawed across all companies. Apple scored very low on the same criteria other tech companies performed well on.
I agree with the GP. Gore should put his money where his mouth is & use his position on Apple's board to start some real green policies at Apple.
Google Earth still hasn't come out for Mac. Sure, it runs on OS X,
Dumb. Think about what you're saying for a second. By that logic, Apple hasn't released quicktime or itunes for windows.
he was wrong about the amount of money I supposedly spent on OS X.
1) Dumbass - he said 'that you'd be paying out $750'. What you would pay, not what you have paid.
2) Dumbass - dont refer to yourself in the first person when you're not logged in.
Once again
Dumb. Ass.
I've always gotten the *impression* that RMS would like to ban closed software
Hmmmn, yes, it's an easy impression to get - RMS vehemently wants proprietary software gone. However, the GP poster went further, saying RMS was a fascist for attempting to restrict his choice.
As RMS has done nothing, nor advocated anything to restrict choice, I don't see how you can call RMS a fascist.
About the best you can say is that the jury is still out on the matter.
Perhaps, but in that case why the fuck is non-thc-rich HEMP illegal? It doesn't have any health issues.
like the recent ridiculous coke and pepsi ban.
You're kidding - coke & pepsi were found (by a private lab) to have contained a pesticide called malathion.
Is it really communism to want pesticides out of foods?
Nations with different development statuses had different obligations & timelines under kyoto.
But that doesn't change the fact that they signed it.
You gave one link that did not back you up. You gave no other links, just alluded to a vague google search. (Google returns different results for different parts of the world, you have to be specific)
Second lie: Long-term memory retention, little man. You said OS X relies on the entire GNU toolset. It doesn't.
Let's revisit what I said.
Nope, doesn't look like I mentioned the GNU toolchain at all.
I bought Tiger. I didn't buy any other OS X updates. I got a student discount.
I downloaded ubuntu. I didn't buy any OS updates at all. I didn't need a discount.
(Did you really use OS 10.1 for so long? It sucked)
check. mate.
*snort*. I take it you don't play chess?
I know. You've made the decision to buy a mac, not realising that you'd be paying out $750 over 5 years to keep your system up to date. You've got to make it look like you've done the right thing.
But face it you've been ripped off!
I can't be assed continuing this debate with you.
Aaaah, the old code for - I've wrong, but don't want to admit it.
If you don't see the difference between a clear committment to phase out PVC by a specific time & a vague promise to phase out PVC, then fine.
On a slightly different note - you realize that nokia have completely eliminated PVCs from their line?" If apple was as green & good as you say, perhaps they'd do the same. (they could start with their ipod line, of a similar size to most of nokia's products.