That's like saying that my top-rack-mounted chillers are "liquid cooling" -- only in the most technical definition of the term. The (great-grand)parent post was talking about bathing machines in coolant, which is something else entierly.
You're much better off using a cooling system that doesn't just use 45 degree water (peanties for being both water and below the dew point), but does a heat exchange with something else like a standard refrigerant, and also keeps the temp of the refrigerant above the dew point.
Case in point: Liebert XDV cooling systems. Also ideally suited for a cold-hot-cold row setup, which is what we've got going -- though the air overpressure on the cold rows (air return is on the hot row ceiling, of course) tends to make the hot row more of a "oddly hot yet with cold gusts" row unless you're in the very center of it.
The higher you are in the list, the slower you are to drop. Turing (also Xserve G5s) has gone down from 66 to 114 in a year. It'd be a lesser drop if we'd done a full-cluster run (as opposed to a 4/5ths cluster run), but that'd require big expensive myrinet equipment we don't have.
Given that clusters these days are made from commodity components (Xserve G5s, for instance) and how large clusters are these days, you end up with a pretty astounding failure rate. We lose roughly two peices of hardware (in order of most to least common: memory, cpu, motherboard, disk, power supply) a week, and our cluster (Turing, 640 nodes) is fairly small. We aren't even into the late-in-life crazy-disk-failure mode that most machines get at 3-5 years old. Think about the logistical nightmare if we had to try to "drain" a system of coolant before pulling it out to service it.
Plus then you'd have to have all that (very custom) cooling equipment, pumps, etc. You'd have to watch for leaks closely, which is also a problem with air cooling and the refrigerant lines, but those have a lot less surface area of pipe/connectors to go wrong: a loop per rack for rack-mounted cooling, not a loop per machine.
Plus, as other posters have said: we'd like accurate numbers.
You could just compute backwards following Moore's Law. Or compute forward: unlike the misinterpretation of "speed doubles", the "density doubles" formulation would lead to things like the cluster I manage (Turing, now #114, originally #66) sitting on your desk as a workstation in about 15 years.
It wouldn't be very useful for running today's applications, since most are not heavily threaded/parallelized, but that gives you some idea of the speed of change.
Google's full computing power is no more a supercomputer than distributed.net or seti@home is. Yes, both supercomputers and seti@home are parallel computation, but they are very different beasts.
Does google have a supercomputer? Maybe. I'm not actually clear what use a "traditional" supercomputer would be to them. For one thing, "disk" IO is genrally not the forte of a supercomputer, at least compared to processing power.
Teaching people advanced technical skills... to solve problems and think for themselves... If you are the last large communist state in the world after the rest have gone belly-up, do you really want to churn out more people like the folks who caused you trouble back in 1989 in Tiananmen Square? Your economy needs them, but if you create them, can you control them?
The problem with too much gold (inflation) is a problem of design, not of gold farmers. The farmers don't create the problem. They do add to it, but minorly at best. The problem is every $critter you kill drops $phat_loot which came from... nowhere.
I suppose this would be okay if $critter could be made extinct by players killing them, leading to no more loot coming into the system. (since you should get the phiscal corpse of $critter if you wack it)
The ISS lacks any of earth's atmospheric shielding in terms of macroscopic physical particles (though it may still get some of the magnetic field shielding), plus it has all the cruft we've ejected into space threatining it as well. Course, since it is pretty close to earth, it doesn't have to worry about half the "sky" since the earth would block meteor(ites) from that direction by being in the way. Then again a moon base would gain that same advantage from the moon (plus the reciprocal shielding of the earth, which is bigger than the moon so is a better shield for a base on the moon than the moon is for the ISS)
You make an assumption that the 911 box hasn't had the ethernet and USB ports filled with epoxy. I wouldn't put a critical box like that on the internet if I didn't have to.
Little Timmy drops the disk in. "You must agree to play the game." Timmy agrees. Timmy is 8. He can't sign a (legally binding) contract. His parents didn't sign the contract. The game lets him play anyhow -- he said yes. Timmy grows up and does not like Pokemon anymore and sells the disk at his family's garage sale.
Sue a kid over a non-enforcable contract? Right. What is sony going to do, make a parent press "yes" to play the game so it is enforcable? While it might be a nice move to discourage GTA lawsuits, it is equally stupid since a kid could, if he made some cash mowing lawns, buy the game himself.
They only recently (within the last year) added the ability to upload album art. The first few CDs I bought (as downloads) from them had no art because they didn't have the capability or the artist didn't put up any cover art.
The horde aren't the one with the "internment camps".
The horde aren't the ones who are trying to commit genocide (except maybe for the undead, but they're a special case anyhow -- their attempts are more bumbling and comedic than anything else)
The horde aren't the ones who spawned the religious nutjobs (scarlet crusade)
So, yeah. I never even played a warcraft game before WoW and I can point out 3 lore things that says the author is a bumbling idiot. Sad.
Lightning, and all that. I wouldn't want to be flying in a wireless aircraft coming in for landing with a storm at the airport. Gotta make a last-minute adjustment as a lightning bolt goes off? Too damn bad!
A fairly large number of people are sensative (in some way) to (many of) the artificial sweeteners. My mother and I both have headache problems with nutrasweet, and I know a couple friends as well who won't (can't) touch the (older, at least) diet stuff.
Honestly though, while soda is a lot of where corn syrup is going (especially if you drink 8 cans a day), if you think that is the only place you've never delt with a mother-in-law who's allergic to corn (in general), or a friend who's seriously allergic to corn syrup. The damn shit is in EVERYTHING in this country. Half the "honey wheat" bread in the supermarket... is made with corn syrup (partially, rather than just honey). All the white is corn syrup. Any sort of candy/storebought sweets? Full of it. Lots of canned things (canned fruit? In heavy syrup? Yep.) use it too.
I wouldn't be surprized if we find out eventually it is (almost) as bad as tobacco in terms of total health impact.
They killed the Blizzard warcraft forums. They're all up in arms about their class talent review, which has had the trees posted over at ign or somewhere.
Remember, they all very carefully include, "none of this is your property."
Blizzard owns the character. Blizzard owns the character's gold. Blizzard owes the taxes, if any, on the gold. Not you. Conviently, since it is just bits on a server that Blizzard owns, and the fact that Blizzard does not sell those bits (they sell access to the bits) they could easily argue that the value of the bits is $0.00 and tell the IRS to stuff it.
The IRS could get away with hitting up a gold seller if the gold seller didn't report the income from ebay as taxed income (since it is), but that's little different than the hot dog vendor who's transactions are all cash and misses a few (or all) bux here and there.
However, this would be interesting if it did come to pass. If virtual gold is worth something, I wonder how long it will take some ambitious auditor to realize that then, obviously, ideas must be worth something too. Perhaps these IP firms should be paying taxes on the "worth" of their patents...? Might be a nice way to fight fire with fire, so to speak.
Sure, they can use this to make money. But will it make them more money than the opportunity cost of using it? (lost sales of petrolium-based fuels to biodiesel/more efficient vehicles)
So which side are you arguing? It sounds like both to me. Both the LGBT-friendly guild and the idiots spamming "u r gay" in the barrens all day are both intruding with a "message" into everyone else's gameplay.
So are the folks bitching about the "chinese gold farmers", the "twinks in the 10-19 bg" and everything else.
Your speech in game is (probably) a reflection of the cultural norms that you grew up with/live in. Sure, some people are actually role-playing, but most people on those games aren't. Their character is them, they are their character. Doesn't matter that the toon looks like a bull standing on two legs, it talks like an American (or Canadian, or $European_Country, or otherise). How many names are really appropriate to the character they are on? Is the game world even developed thouroughly enough to have such ideas?
I guess my point is: unless you want the policy fairly enforced, and want to pay for Blizzard to have enough CSR folks to deal with every 15 year old who's decided that anything he doesn't like "iz ghey" or however it is being mispelled these days, you can't throw stones at the LGBT folks recruiting. Nor can you throw stones against a pro- or anti- twink guild, and that's a much more concrete, in-game thing.
Based on interviewing a whole bunch of people over the course of the last 3 month, I can say: if you have your shit together, and you know what you're doing, you won't have any problems.
This is true for pretty much any field. I left "pure" computer science and went into sysadmin work. I work a 35-40 hour work week, I don't work nights weekends or early mornings. I get paid decently but not amazingly, but my benefits package on day 1 had my father who's worked at lucent (and incarnations before under at&t) for 20+ years jaw drop: 5 weeks paid vacation, plus 2.5 weeks sick time per year. Plus standard university holidays and two floating holidays. I can and do work from home on some days.
If you think I can be replaced by any keyboard monkey, you're a fool. I technically can be, but the loss in quality of service and speed of solving problems is going to make you wish you hadn't. I use my CS degree(s) every day to solve problems; BS in CS, and MS in CS (Parallel Programming). I run a supercomputer: I can talk the same language the scientists do. I used to TA the parallel programming course, so I'm pretty good debugging MPI and compiler errors when the person asking doesn't give me full context.
And with some sensative data, it isn't a job that you can outsource to India. (ignoring, of course, how often something crashes or has a component fail when you have >650 machines) You can't even have an H1B do it, because they aren't a US citizen, so they can't have access to any sensative data.
I've thought about getting back into the programming field, but I'm not so enthused by the opportunities around here (college towns are notorious for paying poorly in just about everything -- the couple that are interesting are startups and I just bought a house so a stable, well-paying job is important to me right now), and I'm not going to happily pack up and head to silicon valley for other reasons.
And you didn't install the OS yourself from something "known good" (or at least believed good, like a generic windows install CD bought at best buy or your other favorite local rip-off shop) you're an idiot.
Beyond that, by talking about it, you've given "the enemy" information on how your IT practices work: you pretty obviously don't use ghost or any similar sort of mass deployment software. (yes, I realize that for laptops with all their custom crap it doesn't work as well. Still, a place I worked as a summer intern used to do it back in the 96-2000 era on IBM thinkpads, so...)
Security by obscurity? Sure. That is all your password is, after all too, it (sec by obs) isn't strictly a bad thing.
So use them. His parents? One of his friends? Doesn't matter.
Frankly the best bet would be cold turkey (if he can't stop to do things he needs to, he needs to stop period), but that may not be an acceptable path in this situation -- it is very hard to stop period if your friends are all playing and talking about a game.
I've been playing MMOs for a long time now, but I don't consider myself addicted: when I hit cases where I need to put the game away and do Real Work (tm), I've never had a problem doing so. Playing Asheron's Call though all of grad school (well, relativly speaking) I dropped it at least twice for long streches -- once was a bad semester TAing, and the other was working on and finishing my master's thesis. 4-6 months each time, when push came to shove I saved $10 a month. And once the crisis time was over, I could go back and enjoy playing it with friends again.
If I'm procrastinating on some other around the house work, it isn't an addiciton to wow, it's procrastination. If I wasn't playing a MMO you can be sure I'd be doing something else (reading a book, playing a single player game, checking mail, web putzing, taking a walk, even working on another thing I need to do as long as it isn't/that/ thing) to procrastinate. Probably even a lot of the above, since reading a book is a fairly short time commitment compared to a game of Civ or playing wow.
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That's like saying that my top-rack-mounted chillers are "liquid cooling" -- only in the most technical definition of the term. The (great-grand)parent post was talking about bathing machines in coolant, which is something else entierly.
You're much better off using a cooling system that doesn't just use 45 degree water (peanties for being both water and below the dew point), but does a heat exchange with something else like a standard refrigerant, and also keeps the temp of the refrigerant above the dew point.
Case in point: Liebert XDV cooling systems. Also ideally suited for a cold-hot-cold row setup, which is what we've got going -- though the air overpressure on the cold rows (air return is on the hot row ceiling, of course) tends to make the hot row more of a "oddly hot yet with cold gusts" row unless you're in the very center of it.
The higher you are in the list, the slower you are to drop. Turing (also Xserve G5s) has gone down from 66 to 114 in a year. It'd be a lesser drop if we'd done a full-cluster run (as opposed to a 4/5ths cluster run), but that'd require big expensive myrinet equipment we don't have.
Given that clusters these days are made from commodity components (Xserve G5s, for instance) and how large clusters are these days, you end up with a pretty astounding failure rate. We lose roughly two peices of hardware (in order of most to least common: memory, cpu, motherboard, disk, power supply) a week, and our cluster (Turing, 640 nodes) is fairly small. We aren't even into the late-in-life crazy-disk-failure mode that most machines get at 3-5 years old. Think about the logistical nightmare if we had to try to "drain" a system of coolant before pulling it out to service it.
Plus then you'd have to have all that (very custom) cooling equipment, pumps, etc. You'd have to watch for leaks closely, which is also a problem with air cooling and the refrigerant lines, but those have a lot less surface area of pipe/connectors to go wrong: a loop per rack for rack-mounted cooling, not a loop per machine.
Plus, as other posters have said: we'd like accurate numbers.
You could just compute backwards following Moore's Law. Or compute forward: unlike the misinterpretation of "speed doubles", the "density doubles" formulation would lead to things like the cluster I manage (Turing, now #114, originally #66) sitting on your desk as a workstation in about 15 years.
It wouldn't be very useful for running today's applications, since most are not heavily threaded/parallelized, but that gives you some idea of the speed of change.
Google's full computing power is no more a supercomputer than distributed.net or seti@home is. Yes, both supercomputers and seti@home are parallel computation, but they are very different beasts.
Does google have a supercomputer? Maybe. I'm not actually clear what use a "traditional" supercomputer would be to them. For one thing, "disk" IO is genrally not the forte of a supercomputer, at least compared to processing power.
Teaching people advanced technical skills... to solve problems and think for themselves... If you are the last large communist state in the world after the rest have gone belly-up, do you really want to churn out more people like the folks who caused you trouble back in 1989 in Tiananmen Square? Your economy needs them, but if you create them, can you control them?
The problem with too much gold (inflation) is a problem of design, not of gold farmers. The farmers don't create the problem. They do add to it, but minorly at best. The problem is every $critter you kill drops $phat_loot which came from... nowhere.
I suppose this would be okay if $critter could be made extinct by players killing them, leading to no more loot coming into the system. (since you should get the phiscal corpse of $critter if you wack it)
The ISS lacks any of earth's atmospheric shielding in terms of macroscopic physical particles (though it may still get some of the magnetic field shielding), plus it has all the cruft we've ejected into space threatining it as well. Course, since it is pretty close to earth, it doesn't have to worry about half the "sky" since the earth would block meteor(ites) from that direction by being in the way. Then again a moon base would gain that same advantage from the moon (plus the reciprocal shielding of the earth, which is bigger than the moon so is a better shield for a base on the moon than the moon is for the ISS)
You make an assumption that the 911 box hasn't had the ethernet and USB ports filled with epoxy. I wouldn't put a critical box like that on the internet if I didn't have to.
Little Timmy drops the disk in. "You must agree to play the game." Timmy agrees. Timmy is 8. He can't sign a (legally binding) contract. His parents didn't sign the contract. The game lets him play anyhow -- he said yes. Timmy grows up and does not like Pokemon anymore and sells the disk at his family's garage sale.
Sue a kid over a non-enforcable contract? Right. What is sony going to do, make a parent press "yes" to play the game so it is enforcable? While it might be a nice move to discourage GTA lawsuits, it is equally stupid since a kid could, if he made some cash mowing lawns, buy the game himself.
They only recently (within the last year) added the ability to upload album art. The first few CDs I bought (as downloads) from them had no art because they didn't have the capability or the artist didn't put up any cover art.
The horde aren't the one with the "internment camps".
The horde aren't the ones who are trying to commit genocide (except maybe for the undead, but they're a special case anyhow -- their attempts are more bumbling and comedic than anything else)
The horde aren't the ones who spawned the religious nutjobs (scarlet crusade)
So, yeah. I never even played a warcraft game before WoW and I can point out 3 lore things that says the author is a bumbling idiot. Sad.
Lightning, and all that. I wouldn't want to be flying in a wireless aircraft coming in for landing with a storm at the airport. Gotta make a last-minute adjustment as a lightning bolt goes off? Too damn bad!
A fairly large number of people are sensative (in some way) to (many of) the artificial sweeteners. My mother and I both have headache problems with nutrasweet, and I know a couple friends as well who won't (can't) touch the (older, at least) diet stuff.
Honestly though, while soda is a lot of where corn syrup is going (especially if you drink 8 cans a day), if you think that is the only place you've never delt with a mother-in-law who's allergic to corn (in general), or a friend who's seriously allergic to corn syrup. The damn shit is in EVERYTHING in this country. Half the "honey wheat" bread in the supermarket... is made with corn syrup (partially, rather than just honey). All the white is corn syrup. Any sort of candy/storebought sweets? Full of it. Lots of canned things (canned fruit? In heavy syrup? Yep.) use it too.
I wouldn't be surprized if we find out eventually it is (almost) as bad as tobacco in terms of total health impact.
They killed the Blizzard warcraft forums. They're all up in arms about their class talent review, which has had the trees posted over at ign or somewhere.
Mages, start your whineing...
Remember, they all very carefully include, "none of this is your property."
Blizzard owns the character. Blizzard owns the character's gold. Blizzard owes the taxes, if any, on the gold. Not you. Conviently, since it is just bits on a server that Blizzard owns, and the fact that Blizzard does not sell those bits (they sell access to the bits) they could easily argue that the value of the bits is $0.00 and tell the IRS to stuff it.
The IRS could get away with hitting up a gold seller if the gold seller didn't report the income from ebay as taxed income (since it is), but that's little different than the hot dog vendor who's transactions are all cash and misses a few (or all) bux here and there.
However, this would be interesting if it did come to pass. If virtual gold is worth something, I wonder how long it will take some ambitious auditor to realize that then, obviously, ideas must be worth something too. Perhaps these IP firms should be paying taxes on the "worth" of their patents...? Might be a nice way to fight fire with fire, so to speak.
Sure, they can use this to make money. But will it make them more money than the opportunity cost of using it? (lost sales of petrolium-based fuels to biodiesel/more efficient vehicles)
Go run those commands and come back and tell us that, again, with a straight face.
/silly.
Particularly on a tauren male with
"Homoginized? Nawww, I like the ladies..." It is a voice emote too. (not applicable in cities, go do it in the wide open countryside)
So which side are you arguing? It sounds like both to me. Both the LGBT-friendly guild and the idiots spamming "u r gay" in the barrens all day are both intruding with a "message" into everyone else's gameplay.
So are the folks bitching about the "chinese gold farmers", the "twinks in the 10-19 bg" and everything else.
Your speech in game is (probably) a reflection of the cultural norms that you grew up with/live in. Sure, some people are actually role-playing, but most people on those games aren't. Their character is them, they are their character. Doesn't matter that the toon looks like a bull standing on two legs, it talks like an American (or Canadian, or $European_Country, or otherise). How many names are really appropriate to the character they are on? Is the game world even developed thouroughly enough to have such ideas?
I guess my point is: unless you want the policy fairly enforced, and want to pay for Blizzard to have enough CSR folks to deal with every 15 year old who's decided that anything he doesn't like "iz ghey" or however it is being mispelled these days, you can't throw stones at the LGBT folks recruiting. Nor can you throw stones against a pro- or anti- twink guild, and that's a much more concrete, in-game thing.
This is true for pretty much any field. I left "pure" computer science and went into sysadmin work. I work a 35-40 hour work week, I don't work nights weekends or early mornings. I get paid decently but not amazingly, but my benefits package on day 1 had my father who's worked at lucent (and incarnations before under at&t) for 20+ years jaw drop: 5 weeks paid vacation, plus 2.5 weeks sick time per year. Plus standard university holidays and two floating holidays. I can and do work from home on some days.
If you think I can be replaced by any keyboard monkey, you're a fool. I technically can be, but the loss in quality of service and speed of solving problems is going to make you wish you hadn't. I use my CS degree(s) every day to solve problems; BS in CS, and MS in CS (Parallel Programming). I run a supercomputer: I can talk the same language the scientists do. I used to TA the parallel programming course, so I'm pretty good debugging MPI and compiler errors when the person asking doesn't give me full context.
And with some sensative data, it isn't a job that you can outsource to India. (ignoring, of course, how often something crashes or has a component fail when you have >650 machines) You can't even have an H1B do it, because they aren't a US citizen, so they can't have access to any sensative data.
I've thought about getting back into the programming field, but I'm not so enthused by the opportunities around here (college towns are notorious for paying poorly in just about everything -- the couple that are interesting are startups and I just bought a house so a stable, well-paying job is important to me right now), and I'm not going to happily pack up and head to silicon valley for other reasons.
My crappy blog needs more hits!
Seriously. Spend 5 minutes on the site and it looks like it is thrown together in 5 minutes. Most posts don't even have comments.
You assume I play the Americans in Civ.
The level of corruption in washington is high! Maybe we should build a Forbidden Palace...
And you didn't install the OS yourself from something "known good" (or at least believed good, like a generic windows install CD bought at best buy or your other favorite local rip-off shop) you're an idiot.
Beyond that, by talking about it, you've given "the enemy" information on how your IT practices work: you pretty obviously don't use ghost or any similar sort of mass deployment software. (yes, I realize that for laptops with all their custom crap it doesn't work as well. Still, a place I worked as a summer intern used to do it back in the 96-2000 era on IBM thinkpads, so...)
Security by obscurity? Sure. That is all your password is, after all too, it (sec by obs) isn't strictly a bad thing.
So use them. His parents? One of his friends? Doesn't matter.
/that/ thing) to procrastinate. Probably even a lot of the above, since reading a book is a fairly short time commitment compared to a game of Civ or playing wow.
Frankly the best bet would be cold turkey (if he can't stop to do things he needs to, he needs to stop period), but that may not be an acceptable path in this situation -- it is very hard to stop period if your friends are all playing and talking about a game.
I've been playing MMOs for a long time now, but I don't consider myself addicted: when I hit cases where I need to put the game away and do Real Work (tm), I've never had a problem doing so. Playing Asheron's Call though all of grad school (well, relativly speaking) I dropped it at least twice for long streches -- once was a bad semester TAing, and the other was working on and finishing my master's thesis. 4-6 months each time, when push came to shove I saved $10 a month. And once the crisis time was over, I could go back and enjoy playing it with friends again.
If I'm procrastinating on some other around the house work, it isn't an addiciton to wow, it's procrastination. If I wasn't playing a MMO you can be sure I'd be doing something else (reading a book, playing a single player game, checking mail, web putzing, taking a walk, even working on another thing I need to do as long as it isn't