Correct but it does indicate mac peeps aren't particularly careful about what they download or what sites they visit. This is going to cause them problems later when we see more mac malware.
Actually, I can name a few legitimate reasons why a Mac user may have a malicious Windows binary on their machine.
1. Clicked on a link and got the Windows [driver/self-extracting archive/app] because the link wasn't labeled as Windows only.
2. Clicked on a link and got the Windows [driver/self-extracting archive/app] because the link wasn't labeled as Windows only.
3. Clicked on a link and got the Windows [driver/self-extracting archive/app] because the link wasn't labeled as Windows only....
Seeing the pattern? And when this happens we either go, "Oops" click on the correct link and go on, or go "F@@k! Stupid Windows only util!". In both cases the misbegotten.EXE file stays in our Downloads folder until it gets cleaned out manually, or via virus scan. The odds on that type of thing getting shared is abysmally small. Any other type of infected file probably came from a friend that has Windows and is either an idiot or is infected and you got spammed from his Outlook contact db.
Your analogy still doesn't work. Yes, a carrier shows no symptoms but is infected, i.e., the virus is biologically active in the body (consuming, multiplying, etc.), but the host shows no symptoms of "illness". The operating system in this case (could be OS X, Linux, Solaris, Irix, AIX, BSD) is not infected. The virus is not active and is in fact harmless to the OS, as it's nothing more than binary data.
In this case, I would say the file system has some antisocial binary data in it that should not be shared with friends. This does underscore the need for antivirus for any OS, especially in a social network sharing kind of world we live in today. We never know what file in our file system might wreak havoc on someone else's.
I believe Undercover Brother was technically the first.
Ahem, yes it was. Not sure what all the fuss is about, only that this latest webcomic-to-movie was a geek-based character set rather than a more mainstream set, but it wasn't first.
Shouldn't be too hard to figure out who the interest groups are, then dump them in a separate folder. Possibly for a hapless intern to get frustrated with writing summaries thereof. Really now, people who put themselves in positions where efficient communications handling is essential should have the skills, though most don't even know what a header is nevermind not to top-post. Time to learn, buncha slackers.
Anyway, procmail is just one way. SIEVE support on your IMAP server would be another. Plenty mail clients have custom filtering, there exist toolsets to run commands on an imap, again possibly in conjunction with procmail, and maybe there already exists a GUI to ease such use for the lesser educatable beings among us, or else it is easily whipped up.
If rules won't do, then train a bayes filter (like spamassassin) on an interest group mass-mailings set and have it dump them in a separate (non-spam) folder. You can use the same technology for multiple targets, not just spam/non-spam. I haven't actually tried but it shouldn't be too hard to adapt, the idea is the same.
Work this out and offer your services to your representatives, for a modest fee. Should be a nice weekend-earner. Royalties to the usual address please.
I made it just a different port on my router at home; still points to port 22 on the internal address forward. That way I can just turn sshd on (after configuring max tries to '3') and not worry about port fiddling on the machine. Works. Haven't seen many attempts at it since I did that years ago.
Let's also not forget to mention that neither of these games are for "children". The Star Wars one is rated "T" for teen, and Mass Effect is rated "M" for mature. At worst, the Star Wars game rating might need to be upgraded to "M". Other than that, this is just nonsense. There is a rating system, an asinine established system for dealing with the content of games because parents can't raise their kids without help from a beauracracy.
These groups have a voice and a way to effect change through the rating system, and they have the right to protest, but you can't send harassing communications to a person or corporation with demands. You're going to be ignored or prosecuted if it goes too far, and rightfully so. Yes, you have a right to have and voice an opinion. No one is taking that away from you, but you do have to express those opinions in appropriate ways and appropriate places if you want your opinion to be respected. Otherwise, you're not helping society, you are a menace to it.
Again, not backup. Read the OP. The drive in question is the backup and just needs to be reformatted. I do know what I am doing, just asking if my obvious solution was the only route. Seems like everyone agrees, except those that think I was asking about backing up data. Nope. Done that. Just maintenance and need to move some data. Thanks for posting.
Try about 18 months worth of project backups and some active other data. Deleting is not an option. Just wondered what others were using other than HDD for personal backup and regular maintenance. Thanks for posting.
Thanks for posting. Really, that was my conclusion. Was more interested in how others are dealing with the issue and what they think is coming tech wise that might make our lives easier for retaining large sums of personal data. I did go looking for other articles, not sure how I missed that one.
My nick actually tells something about what kind of data and how "just delete it", is an asinine response to give when talking about someone's data, personal or otherwise. Just because you only generate a few MB or even GB a day doesn't mean everyone only generates that much data. I generate 10s if not 100s of GB a week, most of which I do cull so I don't have 10s of TBs to keep up with. I am not that big a pack rat, but I do generate a lot of data doing what I do, even for personal reasons. Thanks for posting.
Not broken! The file system is just a little wonky. Something a reformat will fix. I know what the problem is and how to fix it. It's not that I don't want more disks, it just seems like a regrettable necessity to have a drive as big as my largest sitting around empty should I need to do these types of tasks. That gets expensive when you upgrade having to buy two drives all the time. Thanks for posting.
I do audio and video production work, along with web and graphics work. Can't delete it. I have to keep it as a lot of it is already archive stuff. That's what the drive is for...
The problem is file system related, not a bad drive. Just needs reformatting. I said all this in the OP. also asked if a spare drive empty as big as my largest drive was the only option. Been doing that for years, was wondering about other options, if any, and how you deal with your data.
Who knew this thread would be a CrashPlan ad? No thanks. My data stays with me and I share what I want for only as long as I want. Got another suggestion?
Ok, again, I am not talking about backup. I am talking about doing drive maintenance and the need to move 1.6 TB of data to something else. Is my only option to buy another hard drive that sits dead on a shelf for when I need to do this? And my second question was how do you deal with your ever growing storage needs and whether you see something on the horizon that might make things easier. Also, must be nice to have a fat job so you can afford all that at home, but what about the less fortunate for whom their data is just as vast and important to them. Too bad your solution only works for people making more than $75,000/year while being single.
What part of 1.6 TB of data I have to move to reformat a drive didn't you understand? I would like to be able to do that without crippling my only home computer and my only network connection for approximately 883.75 years with my current upload speed. The issue is more than privacy, which is only one of the myriad issues I have with Internet based storage services. We will not have that discussion here, as it would require another thread and you thinking the whole concept through, which might take longer than my upload!
I am making my way through the comments, and want to clarify a little. I am not talking about backup. I am asking about disaster recovery or just plain drive maintenance tasks that should be done annually. The drives are my backup. Yes, good corporate data storage practice is to have spare drives around. I am talking about home. How many have 2 TB drives sitting empty on a shelf at home, just in case? I don't know anyone, personally, and I know hundreds of geek admin types of all ages and experience levels, myself included. We usually buy storage upgrades as needed and seldom have current technology, large drives just laying around because we're using them! Other than that, great stuff so far. Thanks all.
How is that "better" than a browser open you can Alt-Tab to and refresh in two keystrokes? Cognitively it looks like a mess, and I don't see the benefits, even after RTFA and WTFV. I do HTML and CSS for a living and have tried just about every IDE and tool combination that's been available since HTML was born, and (IMHO) nothing beats a code aware text editor and the latest browsers to preview the rendered markup. There just isn't much loss in productivity when you're using keyboard shortcuts to bounce back and forth from code to render in less than 3 seconds. Load times? Well, in development those should be almost nil because you should be working from a local dev server on your network. I just don't see the gain from this application's approach, especially when you add in the bane of every WYSIWYG markup editor the ever moving standards support game. The browsers are always ahead of the WYSIWYG editors as far as new standards support.
I have a job, a home, a bright looking future. I think there's lots of problems with the world that should be fixed, but I sure as hell am not going to risk losing what I have.
Then, frankly, you don't belong in a democratic society. The whole point of our society and especially how the U.S. was set up to begin with was so that anyone in the populous could fight for what they believe is right without the fear of losing everything they have for speaking up. I am beginning to think that complacency isn't the real problem here, cowardice is. When did America get castrated by the corporations and the bullies? It's a sad day in a democracy when the people are afraid to say something is right or wrong because they are afraid to lose everything.
[A]re there any smartphone manufacturers whose phones are made under better conditions?
No.
Yeah, especially given that a good majority of electronics are built in Asia and South America what do you expect? How long have those parts of the world been referenced as the Third World or Developing Country? Do you honestly expect them to have Western advances in society at the same rate as technology? Hell, Mauritania (African nation, not Asian or South American, mind you) just abolished slavery and still has 20% or so of its populace still enslaved. It's going to be a long time before all the nations of the world are on par socioeconomicly and poorer populations are no longer exploited for labor. Long time at this rate, indeed.
For video gamers it happened. When I started gaming, about 27 years ago, it was something only geeks did.
Well, I started playing home console video games (Atari 2600 baby!) 30 years ago this year, and coin op games before that. They were not just for geeks! Rich(er) kids had them first, but not geeks exclusively at all. Hell, I remember when owning a Commodore VIC 20 was not only socially acceptable, but was bragged about on the football practice fields. High scores in Space Invaders, Asteroids, and OMG yes Galaga were held by the tough guys that had criminal records and hung out selling dope and getting in fights at the arcade. Yeah, real prune juice and boiled egg eaters there!
And relevant to the OP, it depends on the laws where you are at the time of theft what is and isn't a felony. In Virginia, theft of any item or items totaling a value of $200USD or more is a felony (yes, two hundred dollars, not thousand). This varies by state in the U.S., but I am reasonably certain that most smartphones and tablets would make the cut in most states for felony theft status.
I do the math and my week still comes out to average 168.115385 hours no matter what I do. Out of that I only sleep about 35 to 40 hours, but I wouldn't call that work. The rest of the time I am cleaning (myself or something in my environment), shopping (clothes, food, whatever), cooking (yes, men can do that!), watching, listening, writing, drawing, inventing, building, or teaching something with the rest of the hours in a week. Oh, and I occasionally get to work out, have sex and most importantly poop and pee when I'm not otherwise engaged in doing something productive.
Seriously, though, when I do work for others I do try to keep that under control. There are periods where I will work 70 - 80+ hours a week getting things done, but that usually doesn't last more than 6 - 8 weeks before I get back to a more normal (40 - 55 hours) schedule. There's always something that comes up to make for more hours in a week devoted to working for someone else. That's life. If it's too much for you then you need to talk to the people you work for. If they are not sympathetic, and it's a hard thing to say in this economy, but get another set of people to work for. Corporations, businesses, institutions, whatever, are heartless, cold, calculating machines that don't give a flying fornication if you're tired or overworked. They want their $$$. If you don't work for one that at least hires enough people to do the work, then you should try to find one. Life's too short to be that miserable.
Actually, the best bet nowdays seems to be typing a word the way you think it's spelled in as a Google search. They'll generally correct it for you; for instance typing "numonya" brings a prompt for "pneumonia." The old "look it up in the dictionary" doesn't work unless you already have a pretty good idea of how the word is spelled.
Yep. That's why tagged the article "websearchkilledit". Not specifically Google, as Google wasn't there at the beginning, but web search in general made Britannica obsolete. The web, then the ability to search a repository or index of it. Altavista? Trying to remember the first big web search site...
Even better, from Walmart's perspective, is that first-time users who pony up $2 for a digital version of their DVDs are effectively paying to create Vudu accounts.
No, users are effectively paying $2 more for the same content they already paid for. Eff You!
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Correct but it does indicate mac peeps aren't particularly careful about what they download or what sites they visit. This is going to cause them problems later when we see more mac malware.
Actually, I can name a few legitimate reasons why a Mac user may have a malicious Windows binary on their machine.
1. Clicked on a link and got the Windows [driver/self-extracting archive/app] because the link wasn't labeled as Windows only. ...
2. Clicked on a link and got the Windows [driver/self-extracting archive/app] because the link wasn't labeled as Windows only.
3. Clicked on a link and got the Windows [driver/self-extracting archive/app] because the link wasn't labeled as Windows only.
Seeing the pattern? And when this happens we either go, "Oops" click on the correct link and go on, or go "F@@k! Stupid Windows only util!". In both cases the misbegotten .EXE file stays in our Downloads folder until it gets cleaned out manually, or via virus scan. The odds on that type of thing getting shared is abysmally small. Any other type of infected file probably came from a friend that has Windows and is either an idiot or is infected and you got spammed from his Outlook contact db.
Your analogy still doesn't work. Yes, a carrier shows no symptoms but is infected, i.e., the virus is biologically active in the body (consuming, multiplying, etc.), but the host shows no symptoms of "illness". The operating system in this case (could be OS X, Linux, Solaris, Irix, AIX, BSD) is not infected. The virus is not active and is in fact harmless to the OS, as it's nothing more than binary data.
In this case, I would say the file system has some antisocial binary data in it that should not be shared with friends. This does underscore the need for antivirus for any OS, especially in a social network sharing kind of world we live in today. We never know what file in our file system might wreak havoc on someone else's.
I believe Undercover Brother was technically the first.
Ahem, yes it was. Not sure what all the fuss is about, only that this latest webcomic-to-movie was a geek-based character set rather than a more mainstream set, but it wasn't first.
Shouldn't be too hard to figure out who the interest groups are, then dump them in a separate folder. Possibly for a hapless intern to get frustrated with writing summaries thereof. Really now, people who put themselves in positions where efficient communications handling is essential should have the skills, though most don't even know what a header is nevermind not to top-post. Time to learn, buncha slackers.
Anyway, procmail is just one way. SIEVE support on your IMAP server would be another. Plenty mail clients have custom filtering, there exist toolsets to run commands on an imap, again possibly in conjunction with procmail, and maybe there already exists a GUI to ease such use for the lesser educatable beings among us, or else it is easily whipped up.
If rules won't do, then train a bayes filter (like spamassassin) on an interest group mass-mailings set and have it dump them in a separate (non-spam) folder. You can use the same technology for multiple targets, not just spam/non-spam. I haven't actually tried but it shouldn't be too hard to adapt, the idea is the same.
Work this out and offer your services to your representatives, for a modest fee. Should be a nice weekend-earner. Royalties to the usual address please.
Lazlo? Lazlo Hollyfeld? Is that you?
I made it just a different port on my router at home; still points to port 22 on the internal address forward. That way I can just turn sshd on (after configuring max tries to '3') and not worry about port fiddling on the machine. Works. Haven't seen many attempts at it since I did that years ago.
Let's also not forget to mention that neither of these games are for "children". The Star Wars one is rated "T" for teen, and Mass Effect is rated "M" for mature. At worst, the Star Wars game rating might need to be upgraded to "M". Other than that, this is just nonsense. There is a rating system, an asinine established system for dealing with the content of games because parents can't raise their kids without help from a beauracracy.
These groups have a voice and a way to effect change through the rating system, and they have the right to protest, but you can't send harassing communications to a person or corporation with demands. You're going to be ignored or prosecuted if it goes too far, and rightfully so. Yes, you have a right to have and voice an opinion. No one is taking that away from you, but you do have to express those opinions in appropriate ways and appropriate places if you want your opinion to be respected. Otherwise, you're not helping society, you are a menace to it.
Again, not backup. Read the OP. The drive in question is the backup and just needs to be reformatted. I do know what I am doing, just asking if my obvious solution was the only route. Seems like everyone agrees, except those that think I was asking about backing up data. Nope. Done that. Just maintenance and need to move some data. Thanks for posting.
Try about 18 months worth of project backups and some active other data. Deleting is not an option. Just wondered what others were using other than HDD for personal backup and regular maintenance. Thanks for posting.
Thanks for posting. Really, that was my conclusion. Was more interested in how others are dealing with the issue and what they think is coming tech wise that might make our lives easier for retaining large sums of personal data. I did go looking for other articles, not sure how I missed that one.
My nick actually tells something about what kind of data and how "just delete it", is an asinine response to give when talking about someone's data, personal or otherwise. Just because you only generate a few MB or even GB a day doesn't mean everyone only generates that much data. I generate 10s if not 100s of GB a week, most of which I do cull so I don't have 10s of TBs to keep up with. I am not that big a pack rat, but I do generate a lot of data doing what I do, even for personal reasons. Thanks for posting.
Not broken! The file system is just a little wonky. Something a reformat will fix. I know what the problem is and how to fix it. It's not that I don't want more disks, it just seems like a regrettable necessity to have a drive as big as my largest sitting around empty should I need to do these types of tasks. That gets expensive when you upgrade having to buy two drives all the time. Thanks for posting.
I do audio and video production work, along with web and graphics work. Can't delete it. I have to keep it as a lot of it is already archive stuff. That's what the drive is for...
The problem is file system related, not a bad drive. Just needs reformatting. I said all this in the OP. also asked if a spare drive empty as big as my largest drive was the only option. Been doing that for years, was wondering about other options, if any, and how you deal with your data.
Who knew this thread would be a CrashPlan ad? No thanks. My data stays with me and I share what I want for only as long as I want. Got another suggestion?
Ok, again, I am not talking about backup. I am talking about doing drive maintenance and the need to move 1.6 TB of data to something else. Is my only option to buy another hard drive that sits dead on a shelf for when I need to do this? And my second question was how do you deal with your ever growing storage needs and whether you see something on the horizon that might make things easier. Also, must be nice to have a fat job so you can afford all that at home, but what about the less fortunate for whom their data is just as vast and important to them. Too bad your solution only works for people making more than $75,000/year while being single.
What part of 1.6 TB of data I have to move to reformat a drive didn't you understand? I would like to be able to do that without crippling my only home computer and my only network connection for approximately 883.75 years with my current upload speed. The issue is more than privacy, which is only one of the myriad issues I have with Internet based storage services. We will not have that discussion here, as it would require another thread and you thinking the whole concept through, which might take longer than my upload!
I am making my way through the comments, and want to clarify a little. I am not talking about backup. I am asking about disaster recovery or just plain drive maintenance tasks that should be done annually. The drives are my backup. Yes, good corporate data storage practice is to have spare drives around. I am talking about home. How many have 2 TB drives sitting empty on a shelf at home, just in case? I don't know anyone, personally, and I know hundreds of geek admin types of all ages and experience levels, myself included. We usually buy storage upgrades as needed and seldom have current technology, large drives just laying around because we're using them! Other than that, great stuff so far. Thanks all.
How is that "better" than a browser open you can Alt-Tab to and refresh in two keystrokes? Cognitively it looks like a mess, and I don't see the benefits, even after RTFA and WTFV. I do HTML and CSS for a living and have tried just about every IDE and tool combination that's been available since HTML was born, and (IMHO) nothing beats a code aware text editor and the latest browsers to preview the rendered markup. There just isn't much loss in productivity when you're using keyboard shortcuts to bounce back and forth from code to render in less than 3 seconds. Load times? Well, in development those should be almost nil because you should be working from a local dev server on your network. I just don't see the gain from this application's approach, especially when you add in the bane of every WYSIWYG markup editor the ever moving standards support game. The browsers are always ahead of the WYSIWYG editors as far as new standards support.
I have a job, a home, a bright looking future. I think there's lots of problems with the world that should be fixed, but I sure as hell am not going to risk losing what I have.
Then, frankly, you don't belong in a democratic society. The whole point of our society and especially how the U.S. was set up to begin with was so that anyone in the populous could fight for what they believe is right without the fear of losing everything they have for speaking up. I am beginning to think that complacency isn't the real problem here, cowardice is. When did America get castrated by the corporations and the bullies? It's a sad day in a democracy when the people are afraid to say something is right or wrong because they are afraid to lose everything.
[A]re there any smartphone manufacturers whose phones are made under better conditions?
No.
Yeah, especially given that a good majority of electronics are built in Asia and South America what do you expect? How long have those parts of the world been referenced as the Third World or Developing Country? Do you honestly expect them to have Western advances in society at the same rate as technology? Hell, Mauritania (African nation, not Asian or South American, mind you) just abolished slavery and still has 20% or so of its populace still enslaved. It's going to be a long time before all the nations of the world are on par socioeconomicly and poorer populations are no longer exploited for labor. Long time at this rate, indeed.
For video gamers it happened. When I started gaming, about 27 years ago, it was something only geeks did.
Well, I started playing home console video games (Atari 2600 baby!) 30 years ago this year, and coin op games before that. They were not just for geeks! Rich(er) kids had them first, but not geeks exclusively at all. Hell, I remember when owning a Commodore VIC 20 was not only socially acceptable, but was bragged about on the football practice fields. High scores in Space Invaders, Asteroids, and OMG yes Galaga were held by the tough guys that had criminal records and hung out selling dope and getting in fights at the arcade. Yeah, real prune juice and boiled egg eaters there!
And relevant to the OP, it depends on the laws where you are at the time of theft what is and isn't a felony. In Virginia, theft of any item or items totaling a value of $200USD or more is a felony (yes, two hundred dollars, not thousand). This varies by state in the U.S., but I am reasonably certain that most smartphones and tablets would make the cut in most states for felony theft status.
I do the math and my week still comes out to average 168.115385 hours no matter what I do. Out of that I only sleep about 35 to 40 hours, but I wouldn't call that work. The rest of the time I am cleaning (myself or something in my environment), shopping (clothes, food, whatever), cooking (yes, men can do that!), watching, listening, writing, drawing, inventing, building, or teaching something with the rest of the hours in a week. Oh, and I occasionally get to work out, have sex and most importantly poop and pee when I'm not otherwise engaged in doing something productive.
Seriously, though, when I do work for others I do try to keep that under control. There are periods where I will work 70 - 80+ hours a week getting things done, but that usually doesn't last more than 6 - 8 weeks before I get back to a more normal (40 - 55 hours) schedule. There's always something that comes up to make for more hours in a week devoted to working for someone else. That's life. If it's too much for you then you need to talk to the people you work for. If they are not sympathetic, and it's a hard thing to say in this economy, but get another set of people to work for. Corporations, businesses, institutions, whatever, are heartless, cold, calculating machines that don't give a flying fornication if you're tired or overworked. They want their $$$. If you don't work for one that at least hires enough people to do the work, then you should try to find one. Life's too short to be that miserable.
Actually, the best bet nowdays seems to be typing a word the way you think it's spelled in as a Google search. They'll generally correct it for you; for instance typing "numonya" brings a prompt for "pneumonia." The old "look it up in the dictionary" doesn't work unless you already have a pretty good idea of how the word is spelled.
Yep. That's why tagged the article "websearchkilledit". Not specifically Google, as Google wasn't there at the beginning, but web search in general made Britannica obsolete. The web, then the ability to search a repository or index of it. Altavista? Trying to remember the first big web search site...
Even better, from Walmart's perspective, is that first-time users who pony up $2 for a digital version of their DVDs are effectively paying to create Vudu accounts.
No, users are effectively paying $2 more for the same content they already paid for. Eff You!