US corporations gather and deal with private data of all people that they can gather data of. US government is hell bound on getting its hands on all private data of all people. Somehow I do not see an element of news or surprise here especially as gov everywhere are outsourcing stuff every day. They buy private data from a telecom operator - really? I would have been surprised if that was not the case of if people demonstrated en masse against this disregard for laws and right to privacy.
We live in a new world where such things like privacy are deemed evil and an attribute of terrorists or perverts. I guess there people in Germany 1933 who did not feel OK with what happened to the republic but still did not have any means of fighting it. It is the same here. Fascists, it seems, raise up every century or so.
You must admit tho that the documents he released to the public are obscene or? If so it is just a small step from this to 'my kid read this crap' and to 'This guy was a pervert'. I have an impression that all the signs are out there that rule of law and democracy has been undermined but not because of the spying itself. Failures happen all the time. The behaviour of authorities means the mindset has changed so significantly that no discussion is at all possible. The secret courts is just one example - were the openness and transparency one of the key features in combating the corruption and tyranny? This gets better and better - German government reaction was pathetic and symptomatic too. They have sent some minister to Washington so that he could tell the public 'all is well' after coming back. Now revelations went on so Chancellor got all excited but somehow this is not real - setting up jammers against US Embassy would be a nice gesture but not even this small hindrance was risked against these friends. Their regular work on 'reinterpretation' of acts of laws so that what was illegal became perfectly OK - this is also symptomatic. It seem the authorities have been infiltrated by self-righteous assholes that despise the public, see the laws as not really binding and hell bound on doing what they were doing. I can even understand basic desire to fight crime but I do not think that is what they want. Similar like war on drugs the surveillance organisations brought to life for a purpose become independent and start setting their own targets. What is really scary is the lack of reaction in general public. In a sense that is understandable because people that know what is going on are to much focused on technology and not on what the real problem is: not the surveillance itself but shameless disregard to values on which most modern western states have been built. These values are important because of what has happened before when for instance similarly unimportant movements have destroyed the (admittedly broken) Weimar Republic. The only thing remaining is to show transmissions that 'prove' people pointing to illegality of gov. actions are perverts etc. This has been done before and total surveillance allows to pick up words that are true but taken out of the context and put arbitrarily together may suddenly mean civil death for a person deemed dangerous for the system. What interesting times we live in...
these are indeed allies. It seems they were spying along and working together on 'interpreting' relevant acts of law so that they can do what they want freely.
This really gives an evil face to the 'black helicopter' jokes made by agents in HQ of The Guardian while destroying the Snowden disks. It looks to me now that they just wanted to show the power that they have in an unnecessary act of stupidity because they just can.
oh come on - this is/. you cannot expect meaningful arguments all that frequently here. Here everything is either an invasion of privacy thus becoming a crime against humanity (or at least/. part of it) or it is a nice fascinating technology i.e. something good. It is fun watching sometimes
GP had quite good points and it would be nice if/. patrons responded with brains instead of jerking knee or in some cases asshole as replacement for thought device.
Ignorance is indeed a choice.
if driving like a fool was a jailable offence then big part of adult population in any western country would deserve jail time or have had a jail time already served.
You obviously never read Stanislaw Lem books. He predicted quite a lot and at least for me in a meaningful sort of way. Having said that I am still waiting for sexy washing machine(s).
I think the only thing that political system of US empire eeee republic is still missing is hippodrome where parties using colors or some other easy to spot but otherwise meaningless attributes to mark their political allegiance (as was the case in Constantynopole at some point). Left and right is also useful of course but Hippodrome is missing. Next stage could be televized fights of naked members of each party in the ring. The winner getting to fuck anybody in the arse would be the third and final stage in this development. Oh wait we have that already...
There are actually two big differences. Even back in the 70ties the technology did not allow easy, absolute surveillance of so many. This has changed.
Another thing that has changed and is significantly different from all what humanity has experienced so far is globalization of finance thanx mainly to developments in communication technology and opening of markets and their relative sophistication. All the rest was there before but we have experienced significant change in quality of surveillance technology and separation of the wealth from the realm of real people. Back in times of industrialization the rich of say London had to fear the masses a bit because these revolted every dozen or so years and could hang some members of the elite. But even back in 70ties the isolation of the wealthy and their grip on the rest of society was not as much advanced as they are now. This in my view is a significant difference.
OC there is always hope. Even Stasi with its state of the art surveillance could not convince people at the end that they should be happy and accept reality as it were.
This is not the point actually but even if it were - secret is not that the big artificial island is built but what is its purpose. From all the movies I have seen last few decades, this never ends well - the evil starting from the artificial construction destroys civilization leaving small group surviving if at all. That is actually a good solution because it tends to show idyllic surroundings and Tom Cruise (or other Hollywood world savior) with some nice female over a newly born that is a hope for the human kind etc.
Alternatively James Bonds arrives and destroys the damned thing and the human kind continues its pointless existence. Either way this thing is going to sink. Possibly in flames.
Come to think of it we have technological progress in almost any branch of human activity yet the inflatables are still inflatables. I think it is the time that scientists. engineers and geeks spend some time on those so that they can become an actual subject of passion not an object of a (usually drunk) male student stunt. There seems to be a genuine need. I mean anime is OK but one would like to fetch a real stuff but without all these flowers, courtship and other nonsense that otherwise emancipated ladies require (after they verified your financial status of course). I mean seriously: the use of steam machines and electricity to fight female hysteria back at the beginning of last century (and following development of less hassle vibrators that ladies of today can use) shows that society in general but inventors too care very much for needs of a lonely female. What about a lonely geek in his mama's cellar?
strangely the countries without government tend to develop structures that simulate it but are usually less efficient or counterproductive to the point that desperate citizens start supporting organized lunatics and murderers if only they can bring some sort of order into their lives. Life without rules and people enforcing them does not exist. It costs money so whoever gets to tend to the rules enforcement extort the money from the rest. If you are lucky you are born into civilized country where these extorting money to fix the roads and control the markets do it without too much distraction to the rest of the society and do not steal all the money while doing it. Bad luck here means life in Somalia, NK or Syria etc. I guess these countries should mean something even to the victims of education system of US or?
Not sure what the fix can be but the way US does its business is no way to administer a country. Bottom line: I think US citizens deserve the government they get.
I do not care whether US citizens have medical care or not but I think it is important to acknowledge US president for his extraordinary weasel wit as well as careful leadership that allowed him to do something that all other presidents dem and rep alike failed to do - namely leading a war without (or with minor) cost.
In light of this major feat the savings or losses that obamacare caused are indeed irrelevant. Thank you for bringing that up!
it is not really the liquidity that is important in this but arbitrage. That is one thing for which trading in short period of time is important. The fact is also that the chunk of trade that is done by HFT fell of late. The reason being an aspect of market economy that is really interesting and seemingly fixed: if there is a imbalance somewhere like (I am making this up as I write it) oranges have lowest price on second Tue of Nov this imbalance will disappear as soon as somebody notices and starts taking advantage of it. The same seems to have happend to HFT and their profits decreased. This does not mean they will go away but that there will be only few companies left. Still the volumes of trade and the way it is done (if volume is big enough some exchanges give the traders insight into the 'future' in that they can see upcoming orders) are just silly - I suppose there could just as well be a limit on the speed transactions are done allowing trading say every second or so. That is enough for any reasonable market to provide arbitrage. I think HFT was a smaller of evils - big banks doing funny things with debt and amount of it - almost all western economies are so much in debt that it is hardly possibly to get out of that other than run printing press on high speed.
except that some did that and are nowhere near. Come to think of it I know few experienced master coderz that still have not noticed the forest behind the trees they fell. They are skilled at coding only take two of them and their code will collide and you need an apprentice to clean up.
you just worked on different projects and that is why you have different best ways of working. Projects vary in size, complexity, team size, content and setup working on it etc The projects differ also with they chief master bosses - with different combinations of technical and management skill. This does not mean This does not mean there are no lessens learned there, it is just that one lesson learned does not fit all. This is something that majority of people do not think about when advocating their own policy, method, framework etc. There are projects in which working on main is ok. There are situations where it is not ok and still some special forces units are allowed to do that anyway. It takes quite some experience and brain power to chose best suited way and will to see the original choice was wrong and new one must be applied.
I guess there is a significant overlap between group A (viewers) and B (assholes invoking 'slut' etc).
I do not call ladies in the pr0n movies sluts - in fact I enjoy services they provide to me in my cellar (a place that would not be so enjoyable otherwise). I call one of my exes a slut because she had a another guy while she lived with me. The overlap citizens mentioned above are not viewing the stuff for the sake of the society but for own pleasure. They should have their balls cut off for being hypocrites.
I can see this only from the other side of the pond but maybe that is clearing my view too: You always need two parties to have an argument. This much is true but if one side does not want to fight you can always force it to by making your requests and demands so far reaching that the other side just cannot agree. It seems to me that as you say both sides are skilled in tinkering and obfuscating for the sake of it but republicans are the ones that go the full length. All their resolution and oaths and all other nonsense shows that they lost the view on what the purpose of the parliament is. I have also strange impression that this is the result of how efficient citizens, political parties and their members and lobbyists have become. They just want the ultimate victory instead of 'foul' compromise. Making compromise foul is also easy. IT is enough to have bad intentions and either make it foul if the other side wants to do things badly - you can transport your dirty wishes trough such bargains or you can easily show the public that any compromise is foul as by its nature, compromise is complex and difficult to understand thus any claim can stick too it. And so on and so forth. Worryingly you can see sings of such processes at work in other western countries too.
well that is you know - your theory. We will never know of course but if you look at Balkans and great success nazis had in subduing this thing they called Yugoslavia you may reconsider. This does not mean they would not have tried if they had an interest and had enough resources free.
why should it implode? I mean surveillance and violence are just two of tools that state always used. Sometimes for good sometimes for evil ends.
I think NSA itself is not a problem - secrete courts and luck of public supervision are. The reasons US gov started these actions were legitimate. The means it used probably not. I think it is time citizens in western countries (as this is done by all governments not only US one) should start looking at what they really want and how much of their privacy they want to share with others. For this, the public must understand consequences of the private data turning public in such a way. This is going to be difficult as majority does not even understand what the problem is.
There are different types of cruise trips - in a sense they are not much different from any other holidays it is just this 'you cannot get away any time you like' thing that puts me off every time I get tempted. So there is this booze and rock'n'roll one and this light science sort of trip - I guess there are others too.
Slashdot Mirror
We live in a new world where such things like privacy are deemed evil and an attribute of terrorists or perverts. I guess there people in Germany 1933 who did not feel OK with what happened to the republic but still did not have any means of fighting it. It is the same here. Fascists, it seems, raise up every century or so.
You must admit tho that the documents he released to the public are obscene or? If so it is just a small step from this to 'my kid read this crap' and to 'This guy was a pervert'. I have an impression that all the signs are out there that rule of law and democracy has been undermined but not because of the spying itself. Failures happen all the time. The behaviour of authorities means the mindset has changed so significantly that no discussion is at all possible. The secret courts is just one example - were the openness and transparency one of the key features in combating the corruption and tyranny? This gets better and better - German government reaction was pathetic and symptomatic too. They have sent some minister to Washington so that he could tell the public 'all is well' after coming back. Now revelations went on so Chancellor got all excited but somehow this is not real - setting up jammers against US Embassy would be a nice gesture but not even this small hindrance was risked against these friends. Their regular work on 'reinterpretation' of acts of laws so that what was illegal became perfectly OK - this is also symptomatic. It seem the authorities have been infiltrated by self-righteous assholes that despise the public, see the laws as not really binding and hell bound on doing what they were doing. I can even understand basic desire to fight crime but I do not think that is what they want. Similar like war on drugs the surveillance organisations brought to life for a purpose become independent and start setting their own targets. What is really scary is the lack of reaction in general public. In a sense that is understandable because people that know what is going on are to much focused on technology and not on what the real problem is: not the surveillance itself but shameless disregard to values on which most modern western states have been built. These values are important because of what has happened before when for instance similarly unimportant movements have destroyed the (admittedly broken) Weimar Republic. The only thing remaining is to show transmissions that 'prove' people pointing to illegality of gov. actions are perverts etc. This has been done before and total surveillance allows to pick up words that are true but taken out of the context and put arbitrarily together may suddenly mean civil death for a person deemed dangerous for the system. What interesting times we live in...
This really gives an evil face to the 'black helicopter' jokes made by agents in HQ of The Guardian while destroying the Snowden disks. It looks to me now that they just wanted to show the power that they have in an unnecessary act of stupidity because they just can.
oh come on - this is /. you cannot expect meaningful arguments all that frequently here. Here everything is either an invasion of privacy thus becoming a crime against humanity (or at least /. part of it) or it is a nice fascinating technology i.e. something good. It is fun watching sometimes
GP had quite good points and it would be nice if /. patrons responded with brains instead of jerking knee or in some cases asshole as replacement for thought device.
Ignorance is indeed a choice.
if driving like a fool was a jailable offence then big part of adult population in any western country would deserve jail time or have had a jail time already served.
You obviously never read Stanislaw Lem books. He predicted quite a lot and at least for me in a meaningful sort of way. Having said that I am still waiting for sexy washing machine(s).
I think the only thing that political system of US empire eeee republic is still missing is hippodrome where parties using colors or some other easy to spot but otherwise meaningless attributes to mark their political allegiance (as was the case in Constantynopole at some point). Left and right is also useful of course but Hippodrome is missing. Next stage could be televized fights of naked members of each party in the ring. The winner getting to fuck anybody in the arse would be the third and final stage in this development. Oh wait we have that already...
considering how messed up the US administration is, it is good that US did not 'free' any country lately.
Another thing that has changed and is significantly different from all what humanity has experienced so far is globalization of finance thanx mainly to developments in communication technology and opening of markets and their relative sophistication. All the rest was there before but we have experienced significant change in quality of surveillance technology and separation of the wealth from the realm of real people. Back in times of industrialization the rich of say London had to fear the masses a bit because these revolted every dozen or so years and could hang some members of the elite. But even back in 70ties the isolation of the wealthy and their grip on the rest of society was not as much advanced as they are now. This in my view is a significant difference.
OC there is always hope. Even Stasi with its state of the art surveillance could not convince people at the end that they should be happy and accept reality as it were.
Japanese use seawater for cooling their nuclear reactors so I guess there must be some advantage in doing exactly that.
Alternatively James Bonds arrives and destroys the damned thing and the human kind continues its pointless existence. Either way this thing is going to sink. Possibly in flames.
Come to think of it we have technological progress in almost any branch of human activity yet the inflatables are still inflatables. I think it is the time that scientists. engineers and geeks spend some time on those so that they can become an actual subject of passion not an object of a (usually drunk) male student stunt. There seems to be a genuine need. I mean anime is OK but one would like to fetch a real stuff but without all these flowers, courtship and other nonsense that otherwise emancipated ladies require (after they verified your financial status of course). I mean seriously: the use of steam machines and electricity to fight female hysteria back at the beginning of last century (and following development of less hassle vibrators that ladies of today can use) shows that society in general but inventors too care very much for needs of a lonely female. What about a lonely geek in his mama's cellar?
Not sure what the fix can be but the way US does its business is no way to administer a country. Bottom line: I think US citizens deserve the government they get.
I do not care whether US citizens have medical care or not but I think it is important to acknowledge US president for his extraordinary weasel wit as well as careful leadership that allowed him to do something that all other presidents dem and rep alike failed to do - namely leading a war without (or with minor) cost.
In light of this major feat the savings or losses that obamacare caused are indeed irrelevant. Thank you for bringing that up!
it is not really the liquidity that is important in this but arbitrage. That is one thing for which trading in short period of time is important. The fact is also that the chunk of trade that is done by HFT fell of late. The reason being an aspect of market economy that is really interesting and seemingly fixed: if there is a imbalance somewhere like (I am making this up as I write it) oranges have lowest price on second Tue of Nov this imbalance will disappear as soon as somebody notices and starts taking advantage of it. The same seems to have happend to HFT and their profits decreased. This does not mean they will go away but that there will be only few companies left. Still the volumes of trade and the way it is done (if volume is big enough some exchanges give the traders insight into the 'future' in that they can see upcoming orders) are just silly - I suppose there could just as well be a limit on the speed transactions are done allowing trading say every second or so. That is enough for any reasonable market to provide arbitrage. I think HFT was a smaller of evils - big banks doing funny things with debt and amount of it - almost all western economies are so much in debt that it is hardly possibly to get out of that other than run printing press on high speed.
except that some did that and are nowhere near. Come to think of it I know few experienced master coderz that still have not noticed the forest behind the trees they fell. They are skilled at coding only take two of them and their code will collide and you need an apprentice to clean up.
I think the GP was just baiting the trolls.
you just worked on different projects and that is why you have different best ways of working. Projects vary in size, complexity, team size, content and setup working on it etc The projects differ also with they chief master bosses - with different combinations of technical and management skill. This does not mean This does not mean there are no lessens learned there, it is just that one lesson learned does not fit all. This is something that majority of people do not think about when advocating their own policy, method, framework etc. There are projects in which working on main is ok. There are situations where it is not ok and still some special forces units are allowed to do that anyway. It takes quite some experience and brain power to chose best suited way and will to see the original choice was wrong and new one must be applied.
I guess there is a significant overlap between group A (viewers) and B (assholes invoking 'slut' etc).
I do not call ladies in the pr0n movies sluts - in fact I enjoy services they provide to me in my cellar (a place that would not be so enjoyable otherwise). I call one of my exes a slut because she had a another guy while she lived with me. The overlap citizens mentioned above are not viewing the stuff for the sake of the society but for own pleasure. They should have their balls cut off for being hypocrites.
I can see this only from the other side of the pond but maybe that is clearing my view too: You always need two parties to have an argument. This much is true but if one side does not want to fight you can always force it to by making your requests and demands so far reaching that the other side just cannot agree. It seems to me that as you say both sides are skilled in tinkering and obfuscating for the sake of it but republicans are the ones that go the full length. All their resolution and oaths and all other nonsense shows that they lost the view on what the purpose of the parliament is. I have also strange impression that this is the result of how efficient citizens, political parties and their members and lobbyists have become. They just want the ultimate victory instead of 'foul' compromise. Making compromise foul is also easy. IT is enough to have bad intentions and either make it foul if the other side wants to do things badly - you can transport your dirty wishes trough such bargains or you can easily show the public that any compromise is foul as by its nature, compromise is complex and difficult to understand thus any claim can stick too it. And so on and so forth. Worryingly you can see sings of such processes at work in other western countries too.
well that is you know - your theory. We will never know of course but if you look at Balkans and great success nazis had in subduing this thing they called Yugoslavia you may reconsider. This does not mean they would not have tried if they had an interest and had enough resources free.
I think NSA itself is not a problem - secrete courts and luck of public supervision are. The reasons US gov started these actions were legitimate. The means it used probably not. I think it is time citizens in western countries (as this is done by all governments not only US one) should start looking at what they really want and how much of their privacy they want to share with others. For this, the public must understand consequences of the private data turning public in such a way. This is going to be difficult as majority does not even understand what the problem is.
this only assuming that your faith includes a human like holy figure or a group of them. Not all Christians subscribe to such interpretation.
There are different types of cruise trips - in a sense they are not much different from any other holidays it is just this 'you cannot get away any time you like' thing that puts me off every time I get tempted. So there is this booze and rock'n'roll one and this light science sort of trip - I guess there are others too.