I recall being quite irritated about the story printed in parts trough the Playboy magazine of which I missed ending because it was printed on the other side of a photo the censors did not like. That was in UK 1998 and I had to ask for the magazine in a kiosk because I could not find it along 'normal' stuff on the ground floor. It was sold in dark plastic bags obscuring all but the top line with the name on it.
That was back then and quite innocent as it seems today. I guess you can get arrested for it now or? I mean metoo and all. I had to laugh yesterday when I saw this. Something is wrong with the West when this is happening. The funny (if you can laugh at it that is) thing is that the so called progressives enforce this silliness. Bigotry from the right and bigotry from the left. The guy on the wheelchair had at least sense of humour.
dream on. We have all the means to fix wars - it is enough if all people behave,right? But that somehow does not work. I wonder why?
Could this be that in our quest for peace eternal as you just wished, we in some part of the West will develop AI that will advise us, Chinese will develop their own and so on and so forth. There may be an equilibrium that is good for some humans which does not include world peace. Have you ever thought about that? And the question about ethics is silly too - we developed the ethic to leave in a society. In other words ethics are group bound. There may be some that have humanity as a group but the humans deal with groups on their local level and that is not humanity but other humans they deal with in their lives. I doubt there ever will be ethics that can be deployed to us all and on all levels of societal interaction at once. In other words conflict may be just part of life with war being its highest possible level. AI can probably prevent it by applying oppression (visible or not - after all one can manipulate people into living in hell and enjoying it - NK does not need any AI to last). But then eventually it will stand against another AI instance.At the end there are only two things that concern me: income enough for me to sustain life of my family and have some fun from time to time and secondly that there is no oppression of the kind I have lived trough at the beginning of my life - where I could not discuss certain things. The first will probably be more difficult as we speak not only because of AI but because of my old age. The second is happening too: mass hysteria supported by marxists university professors and the media - it is already impossible and partially illegal to talk about certain things even if they have scientific support - a former employee of Google had made this experience. AI or not - we make our own hell on earth as we make our own paradise. The later is not a stable equilibrium like situation. No AI is going to change that.
The link you provided is indeed interesting, especially discussion following the article.If one looks at this discussion one sees that not all is as shiny as you pretend it to be. The assumption that energy consumption is falling in the whole world is well assumption. We will know if that chart they have in the article is correct or not when the time comes. This is especially true if you want to eliminate fossil fuels from transportation and replace it with electricity.
My physician told me (this is already 3ya) that daily intake of small doses of nicotine seem to be associated with lesser chance of getting dementia. He advised me not to pick up smoking tho as it is better to have no brains than die of lung cancer. I wonder how it goes for e-cigs?
I had a chance to see communist propaganda first hand. It was indeed a lesser version of what we have now in the West. The problem is not that Ruskis or aliens do us bad - they probably try but so do multinational corporations, rich people with billions at their disposal, groups of activists etc. I think it is just the society as is got quite neurotic an at least on the surface it looks like on the verge of hysteria.
The result is as it is. I would be surprised if we did not go to war with Ruskis sometime in not so far away future and Clinton did not even win the elections. The other way of looking at recent development in mob organization is that everybody can have a voice. This means that the average intelligence of a post anywhere on interpipes is not so good. Is the same really with so called IT jobs. People writting scripts in JS or something else need not massive knowledge in anything except their own subject augmented with some literacy and that includes writing some basic JS stuff. The difference between all these people and what they produce is astonishing. I watched falcon heavy lunch and I appreciated how well all worked. I had to go back to digging in shitty install scripts that work half the time.
I suppose that the therapy part of what GP proposed was missing in your mix. I do not say it would help but indeed just change of mood does not really help on itself esp. if side effects make you a zombie.
Not sure about how efficient these things are - surely removing anxiety and improving your mood is changing also attitude towards your life so it potentially helps get off from the spot with bleak view and terrible mood to a spot with bleak view only. This has a said benefit of being able to do something (if chance arises) instead of having only mood so bad that no work or even leaving the house is possible. OC if these things make a zombie out of a person then there is no point of taking them other than preventing trouble caused by possible activities resulting from desperation.
Common sense is not what humans in general possess. I think banning plastic straws is not necessarily a bad thing esp. that you may have a paper replacement for it and the plastic straws are possibly thrown everywhere and at the end end up in big swirl in pacific so I say : well done. While appreciating this I would also comment that 95% of plastic garbage in the oceans is apparently coming from 10 rivers of which not one flows trough highly developed world: 4 of them flows through China, 2 of them (Amur and Mekong) partially through China. So yes this is probably a good thing but not as big good thing as it is announced to be. Or maybe I misunderstood the excitement and it is all about treasured and holy ancient tradition of using a plastic straw?
Sufficiently intelligent AI will have to become a legal person and will have some wishes too I suppose. This kind of raises the level of competition one notch up.
migrate to Germany - good citizens there are giving houses and dole to all that can walk and swim to reach this paradise. You have to deal with bad bureaucracy and some others less educated and less civilized that got the idea already.
Capitalism is just the way to say something has value and can be exchanged for something else of the same (perceived) value. How society handle that is a different matter. In places like Somalia you have it raw. NK has it raw but from highly organized part of the societal structure. In some places good citizens help those that had less luck in life, In some others they don't. However well you organize your society the time you have to cut the fat off and remove non-functioning parts is never far away.
Condoms - that is what I say to it. It will not work short term of course and there are some that would not touch this and other contraceptives with a stick because something something but that is a solution. The short term would require some AI to block bank accounts and destroy media presence of those that plan to protest. Drones can find targets easily too. Some will misfire of course but that is today an analogue reality too. There will always be discontent of course. Some well dosed drugs can fix that too. There was this novel manna 2.0 - that was sort of convincing but it was so mellow. The history of humanity is that of adapting to change. Very often the adapting caused rivers of blood. This has a chance to be different because technological progress will be able to stop discontent before it reaches violent phase. There are of course shithole places where we humans oppress other humans he old fashion brutal and bloody way. I guess that is unavoidable because we did not use condoms often enough. The good thing is that because of PC and well meant censorship some humans will not have the necessity to go to the streets and possibly be happy. I am sure Soros and Gates of any time will thrive. The q. is : how big the unhappy chunk of the general population will be.
because aliens have already been found - they populate most of the political scene in the West. Wherever you look - Obama, Trump, Junckers etc These alien parasites destroy our countries and nobody cares. That is a much bigger problem. Come to think of it: contrary to what SETI is, political elite being all aliens is an actual problem.
It means something still if public sentiment changes. Even if the difference between what people do and they say is huge if what they now say changes this much the chances are the masses move a bit and some less reckless and more competent of us will maybe prevail few % points more often than before. OC that will not be enough even if it is move in proper direction but better than nothing.
yes the cricle - a lady embraces the new absolute surveillance as it allows her to connect with fellow humans and the bad white man who did not appreciate the full transparency all that much dies one can say in hushed into death as an hunted animal running from the dogs. I exaggerate of course but then my neighbours told me many times they see nothing wrong in absolute transparency. Majority accepts the new brave world. What else can they do? The 'good doers' like Zuckerberg, Soros & Co do what they can to improve the world. The only problem I have with it is that I cannot escape from this paradise.
There was one of the Bourne movies where they found a leaker because he was the only one that fit the profile out of a (IIRC) 3 persons that switched off the phone at given time. Things went ahead and now if some effort is put into it FB and google may be in a possession of data on most of movement (physical and virtual) of most of humans in the west. I know from a friend that his criminal acquaintances switch off their phones when they meet to discuss next job - imagine this: 10 people meeting in a coffee bar switching phones simultaneously. Is that difficult to spot? Not really. Difficult part is to get over the phone - person relationship but that is not a big deal if you have additional info pre-selecting the target group. The idea that we have privacy or any sorts is these days based on our belief that people and corps hold on to not written rules of behaviour. If the rules were written and enforced this would be no guarantee but they are mostly not written and I guess as soon as you have FB app on your phone you agreed the their rules possibly suspending general ones (if any existed). It is not doom and gloom. It is just reality of 21st century.
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I recall being quite irritated about the story printed in parts trough the Playboy magazine of which I missed ending because it was printed on the other side of a photo the censors did not like. That was in UK 1998 and I had to ask for the magazine in a kiosk because I could not find it along 'normal' stuff on the ground floor. It was sold in dark plastic bags obscuring all but the top line with the name on it.
That was back then and quite innocent as it seems today. I guess you can get arrested for it now or? I mean metoo and all.
I had to laugh yesterday when I saw this. Something is wrong with the West when this is happening. The funny (if you can laugh at it that is) thing is that the so called progressives enforce this silliness. Bigotry from the right and bigotry from the left. The guy on the wheelchair had at least sense of humour.
You can include this little company that helped Marcon be elected.
Yes that is a real worry. But they can claim that the German SW was flawed on purpose to hide CO2 footprint. That would fix it.
dream on. We have all the means to fix wars - it is enough if all people behave,right? But that somehow does not work. I wonder why? Could this be that in our quest for peace eternal as you just wished, we in some part of the West will develop AI that will advise us, Chinese will develop their own and so on and so forth. There may be an equilibrium that is good for some humans which does not include world peace. Have you ever thought about that? And the question about ethics is silly too - we developed the ethic to leave in a society. In other words ethics are group bound. There may be some that have humanity as a group but the humans deal with groups on their local level and that is not humanity but other humans they deal with in their lives. I doubt there ever will be ethics that can be deployed to us all and on all levels of societal interaction at once. In other words conflict may be just part of life with war being its highest possible level. AI can probably prevent it by applying oppression (visible or not - after all one can manipulate people into living in hell and enjoying it - NK does not need any AI to last). But then eventually it will stand against another AI instance.At the end there are only two things that concern me: income enough for me to sustain life of my family and have some fun from time to time and secondly that there is no oppression of the kind I have lived trough at the beginning of my life - where I could not discuss certain things. The first will probably be more difficult as we speak not only because of AI but because of my old age. The second is happening too: mass hysteria supported by marxists university professors and the media - it is already impossible and partially illegal to talk about certain things even if they have scientific support - a former employee of Google had made this experience. AI or not - we make our own hell on earth as we make our own paradise. The later is not a stable equilibrium like situation. No AI is going to change that.
The link you provided is indeed interesting, especially discussion following the article.If one looks at this discussion one sees that not all is as shiny as you pretend it to be. The assumption that energy consumption is falling in the whole world is well assumption. We will know if that chart they have in the article is correct or not when the time comes. This is especially true if you want to eliminate fossil fuels from transportation and replace it with electricity.
If 1. occurs then 3. is not so scary and possibly is caused by other more violent causes which may also decrease chance of option 2. ever occurring.
If new neurons could cause you to question status quo, it may land you in reeducation camp. This is rather unhealthy.
My physician told me (this is already 3ya) that daily intake of small doses of nicotine seem to be associated with lesser chance of getting dementia. He advised me not to pick up smoking tho as it is better to have no brains than die of lung cancer. I wonder how it goes for e-cigs?
Having two neurons can and will cause naughty rubbing of them thus making even this little of useful brain mass getting wasted.
I had a chance to see communist propaganda first hand. It was indeed a lesser version of what we have now in the West. The problem is not that Ruskis or aliens do us bad - they probably try but so do multinational corporations, rich people with billions at their disposal, groups of activists etc. I think it is just the society as is got quite neurotic an at least on the surface it looks like on the verge of hysteria. The result is as it is. I would be surprised if we did not go to war with Ruskis sometime in not so far away future and Clinton did not even win the elections. The other way of looking at recent development in mob organization is that everybody can have a voice. This means that the average intelligence of a post anywhere on interpipes is not so good. Is the same really with so called IT jobs. People writting scripts in JS or something else need not massive knowledge in anything except their own subject augmented with some literacy and that includes writing some basic JS stuff. The difference between all these people and what they produce is astonishing. I watched falcon heavy lunch and I appreciated how well all worked. I had to go back to digging in shitty install scripts that work half the time.
so because some comments are bad you advise to not comment at all?
I suppose that the therapy part of what GP proposed was missing in your mix. I do not say it would help but indeed just change of mood does not really help on itself esp. if side effects make you a zombie.
Not sure about how efficient these things are - surely removing anxiety and improving your mood is changing also attitude towards your life so it potentially helps get off from the spot with bleak view and terrible mood to a spot with bleak view only. This has a said benefit of being able to do something (if chance arises) instead of having only mood so bad that no work or even leaving the house is possible. OC if these things make a zombie out of a person then there is no point of taking them other than preventing trouble caused by possible activities resulting from desperation.
And some of the HW used in this has shockingly phallic shapes which is not what we want in our (through stupidity) enlightened times.
Common sense is not what humans in general possess. I think banning plastic straws is not necessarily a bad thing esp. that you may have a paper replacement for it and the plastic straws are possibly thrown everywhere and at the end end up in big swirl in pacific so I say : well done. While appreciating this I would also comment that 95% of plastic garbage in the oceans is apparently coming from 10 rivers of which not one flows trough highly developed world: 4 of them flows through China, 2 of them (Amur and Mekong) partially through China. So yes this is probably a good thing but not as big good thing as it is announced to be. Or maybe I misunderstood the excitement and it is all about treasured and holy ancient tradition of using a plastic straw?
Sufficiently intelligent AI will have to become a legal person and will have some wishes too I suppose. This kind of raises the level of competition one notch up.
migrate to Germany - good citizens there are giving houses and dole to all that can walk and swim to reach this paradise. You have to deal with bad bureaucracy and some others less educated and less civilized that got the idea already.
Capitalism is just the way to say something has value and can be exchanged for something else of the same (perceived) value. How society handle that is a different matter. In places like Somalia you have it raw. NK has it raw but from highly organized part of the societal structure. In some places good citizens help those that had less luck in life, In some others they don't. However well you organize your society the time you have to cut the fat off and remove non-functioning parts is never far away.
Condoms - that is what I say to it. It will not work short term of course and there are some that would not touch this and other contraceptives with a stick because something something but that is a solution. The short term would require some AI to block bank accounts and destroy media presence of those that plan to protest. Drones can find targets easily too. Some will misfire of course but that is today an analogue reality too. There will always be discontent of course. Some well dosed drugs can fix that too. There was this novel manna 2.0 - that was sort of convincing but it was so mellow. The history of humanity is that of adapting to change. Very often the adapting caused rivers of blood. This has a chance to be different because technological progress will be able to stop discontent before it reaches violent phase. There are of course shithole places where we humans oppress other humans he old fashion brutal and bloody way. I guess that is unavoidable because we did not use condoms often enough. The good thing is that because of PC and well meant censorship some humans will not have the necessity to go to the streets and possibly be happy. I am sure Soros and Gates of any time will thrive. The q. is : how big the unhappy chunk of the general population will be.
because aliens have already been found - they populate most of the political scene in the West. Wherever you look - Obama, Trump, Junckers etc These alien parasites destroy our countries and nobody cares. That is a much bigger problem. Come to think of it: contrary to what SETI is, political elite being all aliens is an actual problem.
You did not misread anything. You have read what GP meant but what got corrected by aggressive spellchecker.
It means something still if public sentiment changes. Even if the difference between what people do and they say is huge if what they now say changes this much the chances are the masses move a bit and some less reckless and more competent of us will maybe prevail few % points more often than before. OC that will not be enough even if it is move in proper direction but better than nothing.
yes the cricle - a lady embraces the new absolute surveillance as it allows her to connect with fellow humans and the bad white man who did not appreciate the full transparency all that much dies one can say in hushed into death as an hunted animal running from the dogs. I exaggerate of course but then my neighbours told me many times they see nothing wrong in absolute transparency. Majority accepts the new brave world. What else can they do? The 'good doers' like Zuckerberg, Soros & Co do what they can to improve the world. The only problem I have with it is that I cannot escape from this paradise.
There was one of the Bourne movies where they found a leaker because he was the only one that fit the profile out of a (IIRC) 3 persons that switched off the phone at given time. Things went ahead and now if some effort is put into it FB and google may be in a possession of data on most of movement (physical and virtual) of most of humans in the west. I know from a friend that his criminal acquaintances switch off their phones when they meet to discuss next job - imagine this: 10 people meeting in a coffee bar switching phones simultaneously. Is that difficult to spot? Not really. Difficult part is to get over the phone - person relationship but that is not a big deal if you have additional info pre-selecting the target group. The idea that we have privacy or any sorts is these days based on our belief that people and corps hold on to not written rules of behaviour. If the rules were written and enforced this would be no guarantee but they are mostly not written and I guess as soon as you have FB app on your phone you agreed the their rules possibly suspending general ones (if any existed). It is not doom and gloom. It is just reality of 21st century.
Fail is a fail. Diversity has nothing to do with it. Diversity for diversity sake is just a nonsense. Any kind of it.