not sure about roads - I think some additional equipment may be necessary if the cars are to be fully autonomous. Other than that I have a problem with your assertion that tax payers should not be expected to pay for something. The only thing required from tax payers is to pay taxes. Nothing less and nothing more. There is no opportunity to take part in decision making as to what this money is going to be spent on etc. As a citizen (which is different from tax payer in many ways) usually you have a right to vote for some people to represent you. This right is usually mistaken for a right to take part in a republic (like in old republics in ancient Greece). Other than that if you are lucky nobody will harass you if you pay and occasionally submit yourself to military. There are very few states in this world where the right to elect is augmented with actual right to say something about the direction the state is to take, I know only about Switzerland. The rest is max at level of the Netherlands - they have the referendum and the government is obliged to take valid referendum into account but hey - did they the last time Dutch voted against something? So we can safely assume that if you are not a citizen of Switzerland living there you have no right and possibility to influence how your tax money is spent.
As soon as such platforms are used by everybody they become a public square. Can you talk freely on a public square? Is there any other? Looks to me like in modern society FB, twitter and YT are a public square delivering basic service to the public. It is not a problem with this or other particular a-le but with removal of views and opinions of others because they are not representing the view of current interwebs mob. Removal of possibility to earn was one of the things that communists which I had occasion to experience first hand were using too. Fascinating to see the old times coming back.
The new world is always today and changes are difficult especially if you are not in control of them. There will be new species anyway. Or something looking like it never mind resistance of some. I may not like it but I would not mind extension of my brain into silicon (if it worked of course) or whatever else scientists come up with as an extending substance. There are many hoping this will bring us to new heights. The result will be that maybe but for sure new ways we will be sucked dry by owners of this planet. Some may live in an illusion of a harmony and implementation of the new devices for good of everybody and the community till they look beyond the fence. There are so many humans. Why worry?
I think you touched on the mystery of (usually very unholy) spirit. One that generations of philosophers tried to uncover and usually produced something that failed to become a building block of our current understanding, quite a misery, if you ask me. Current wave of discoveries of how brains work is probably just that - something that either will be forgotten or becomes another part of our knowledge. We will thus be so far as to be able just to describe what is happening and sometimes find relationships, we call rules. At some point we will have a picture of how it works that is much more detailed than what we have now. If that is then knowing what intelligence is? I guess our theories will be (they are already) a bit more sophisticated from the idea of soul but I have this nasty impression that we end up at that exactly - with very detailed knowledge of what this 'soul' needs to work with relation to hardware and software. In fact I believe soul is just an old term, we use intelligence, consciousnesses today. Same same but different, as my friend used to say.
.. unlike biological brains, an AI would not be encumbered by the detritus of millions of years of sub-optimal evolutionary local maxima.
I had to laugh at that. Look at any system you use or work with - it may not be millions of years but as you said silicon is that much faster, is it not?
There is also this other reason. Most of humans do like music but do not spend time on finding something special, extending and deepening knowledge about it and own taste too. For this majority buying a CD or vinyl is unreasonable because all they need is just a sound background. Some other people like it to the point they want to have it when they want and frankly for audiophile types subscribing to this many services to get what they want is not always the best option. I am still buying CDs sometimes. But it is far off from the peak when (20ya?) I could go to a shop once or twice a week and buy multiple pieces. I do not shuffle CDs anymore as the chaos of CD boxes was annoying me - all is digitized and backed up so I use 'internet' radio and some server (do not even recall its name anymore) stacked as VBox in the 'cellar'.
I can imagine buying CDs if something nice comes along. Possibly made without big labels 'help'. So I am in line with falling sales. Whether this means death of CD I am not so sure. Vinyl is still there too.
I recall doing contract job in IT in UK some years back. I had to register in NHS too at the beginning. After 6months I left the country and after 2 more I got a letter from NHS that they processed my data and my insurance card is waiting for me. This much for efficiency. This said I do not trust efficiency of the private industry either - there is no benefit for me as a customer if they get efficient. More efficiency here means that I get sucked dry more efficiently. The rest stays the same. From this perspective a naive reader could draw a conclusion that any change would be good. Well if I understand this correctly Amazon is not doing it for me or for industry but to get costs cut. These are own costs that they are cutting so common man can maybe expect some benefits but they way this usually goes they will be paid with something else. So whether anybody but its CEO and possible shareholders get anything out of it remains to be seen.
Russian probably did it. They stole some mails. In best tradition of propaganda instead of dealing with both the mails which apparently indicate some serious wrongdoing AND the hacking we just blame Ruskis for Trump.
Ruskis probably indeed did it. This, contrary to the mass hysteria we see, did not change the course of the world. We do it too and are never admitting this happens unless there is no other way.
Bottom line is this: Trump would have become a president anyway. And what security services say is irrelevant as they say what is necessary to say. The real reports are maybe for Presidents but I am not sure all of them get on presidential desks.
single male in a female society - that means there are no male role models and you are just a strange female so nobody likes you.
Looks like a goal of #metoo-ers.
You will not find a completely free market even in failed state. Go to Somalia to see how that works in hardly functioning one. There are limits and rules even there. The fact is that commies to which you refer only claimed suspension of market economy while what they did is heavy handed controls of everything including expression of one's mind. We still used money in allowed and also in not allowed ways (black market). I have never been to NK but I am sure with all their ideology it is only that - ideology and they use some sort of market system possibly even with (omg) money.
Human societies developed many ways of fixing the problem of hungry people not being able to find means of earning the living. This goes from summary executions, trough charity, limits on residence in some areas to state sponsored welfare programs. I suppose besides summary execution some mix of state violence to prevent looting and overflowing of the area by beggars from elsewhere and welfare and charity is working in almost any country in this world. The q. here is: which of these methods should be sponsored by the state and in particular if the state can force businesses to provide minimum wage. I do not know the answer and I suspect it is different depending on the society and current conditions. Claiming however that minimum wage on its own destroy business is just not supported by facts.
Bitcoin this and that - company 'does' bitcoin and its stock goes ballistic. The other one is that the good ride on stock market will continue. In some cases accompanied by dismissing the fact that we are historically in area just before crash. I wonder if it goes bang this year or next. I go for this one,. I recall reading how financial instruments 'disconnect' from real market just proved that we are in new era. That was end of 2007 and first half of 2008. OC I do not know it. I just see some signs. Let see if there will be indeed a big bang this year and if so how big the mess will be. ECB is still throwing billions into the market. EU Target2 still looks like a disaster waiting to happen. Good day everybody.
It is sadly so. Yet there is no way that CEO of a company should care about that. Not in their capacity of CEO. As a human being yes but making profit while following the law is what they are supposed to do. The part of making profits may include not behaving like an arse but it is never main part of it. Yes I think too that the robotics will change our societies in violent and not always good ways. Some will find occupation elsewhere. Some like me will not because they cannot talk nice to people and be with all their skills just discarded.
There is indeed not, Not in TFA. In reality I live in my boss has to justify employment of men. She does not have to do that for women. The dynamic is there.
They may be - there is always a chance however small that may be. There will always be a difference. This is incomprehensible for majority and used on purpose by minority. It is wrong to discriminate for any reason of course. I started to be discriminated against because while in Germany where I live normalized difference between wages is below 2% the target as described by leading politicians, activists and media is said to be 20%. Clearly after fixing that difference I will be heavily discriminated against. I hope we never get there but with current way of leading any discussion we may just very well be heading this direction.
easy, easy - we live in 21st century so all is possible with bit of patience and effort - we can even reach situation where big part of blow job desiring population gets it from people they desire to get it from, this includes all combinations. OC there will be some left that will need to get their satisfaction elsewhere but such is life. There is no reason to go ballistic on this this and oppress people because of their choice of bj giving party.
This goes a bit further: you normalize for position, experience and company (the same job and skills set but different companies and you may have different wage etc) and you get at proper result. In a study after study this has been around 2% in Western Europe. So you go and fix that and I am ok with that. The problem is that most of the warriors for a better future are fighting to fix difference that is allegedly about 20% (socialists in Germany claimed 17% last year). This has no relationship to reality but in a world where for claiming reality you get James Damored you should not expect justice. How current injustice against men fixes previous injustice against women I am still waiting to see.
They have characteristics that are no very good for their popularity: high price, not so good range and lengthy charging (yes I know you can blastcharge such car too but even then it costs you significant amount of time). If you add to this that any reasonable and well informed to be owner looks at overall footprint such cars have on environment they may just give up buying it. Not in Norway where almost all electricity is produced is hydro and they produce more of it than they use. As other posters already pointed out Norway is a nice country and a place you would surely like. Their population density and wealth make it a place to be. Only lack of sun is a small problem but hey you can have lamps blowing darkness and melancholia away and all ecologically neutral! The only problem here is:how many other places can do the same? I also wonder how they are going to stop massive immigration that is troubling the countries on the other side of the peninsula and on the other side of Baltic. But this is another subject. The point here is: Norway is almost like Elysium. I hope for them it stays so. I do not see them as an example we all can follow.
And Norway produces more hydro-electricty than they consume - meaning the dismal overall electric cars CO2 footprint is in Norway positive and the only negative is the price and range of which government takes care - in form of direct taxes and subsidies as well as subsidies for the network of chargers. This approach has consequences. They can claim they are indeed cleaner than anybody else and keep pointing fingers at say Germans etc. Other than that go ahead and show me that this is beneficial for me. Instead I have government forcing me to pay for your privilege.
In other words Norway while being definitely a leader cannot be given as an example to follow.
Statistics and reasoning and ability to make arguments w/o at least denigrating the opponent are skills not available to majority of humankind. This is a major fail and something we will never alleviate, not in all humans. So there is a problem in the whole population. You can see it everywhere else - in SW development or engineering (which sadly SW development has hardly ever become). What I observe is that even publications that used to (try to) stay objective like the Economist are suffering from major 'left' tilt.The public is agitated and this shows here too.
Why has this been marked as troll? It is an innocent joke. Are we this far in lack of humour that in all that nazi/metoo/ecological collapse/Trump deception/what else we have no time for a normal conversation? I guess yes.
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Once you evaluate this you may come to some conclusions.
not sure about roads - I think some additional equipment may be necessary if the cars are to be fully autonomous. Other than that I have a problem with your assertion that tax payers should not be expected to pay for something. The only thing required from tax payers is to pay taxes. Nothing less and nothing more. There is no opportunity to take part in decision making as to what this money is going to be spent on etc. As a citizen (which is different from tax payer in many ways) usually you have a right to vote for some people to represent you. This right is usually mistaken for a right to take part in a republic (like in old republics in ancient Greece). Other than that if you are lucky nobody will harass you if you pay and occasionally submit yourself to military. There are very few states in this world where the right to elect is augmented with actual right to say something about the direction the state is to take, I know only about Switzerland. The rest is max at level of the Netherlands - they have the referendum and the government is obliged to take valid referendum into account but hey - did they the last time Dutch voted against something? So we can safely assume that if you are not a citizen of Switzerland living there you have no right and possibility to influence how your tax money is spent.
As soon as such platforms are used by everybody they become a public square. Can you talk freely on a public square? Is there any other? Looks to me like in modern society FB, twitter and YT are a public square delivering basic service to the public. It is not a problem with this or other particular a-le but with removal of views and opinions of others because they are not representing the view of current interwebs mob. Removal of possibility to earn was one of the things that communists which I had occasion to experience first hand were using too. Fascinating to see the old times coming back.
The new world is always today and changes are difficult especially if you are not in control of them. There will be new species anyway. Or something looking like it never mind resistance of some. I may not like it but I would not mind extension of my brain into silicon (if it worked of course) or whatever else scientists come up with as an extending substance. There are many hoping this will bring us to new heights. The result will be that maybe but for sure new ways we will be sucked dry by owners of this planet. Some may live in an illusion of a harmony and implementation of the new devices for good of everybody and the community till they look beyond the fence. There are so many humans. Why worry?
I think you touched on the mystery of (usually very unholy) spirit. One that generations of philosophers tried to uncover and usually produced something that failed to become a building block of our current understanding, quite a misery, if you ask me.
Current wave of discoveries of how brains work is probably just that - something that either will be forgotten or becomes another part of our knowledge. We will thus be so far as to be able just to describe what is happening and sometimes find relationships, we call rules. At some point we will have a picture of how it works that is much more detailed than what we have now. If that is then knowing what intelligence is? I guess our theories will be (they are already) a bit more sophisticated from the idea of soul but I have this nasty impression that we end up at that exactly - with very detailed knowledge of what this 'soul' needs to work with relation to hardware and software. In fact I believe soul is just an old term, we use intelligence, consciousnesses today.
Same same but different, as my friend used to say.
.. unlike biological brains, an AI would not be encumbered by the detritus of millions of years of sub-optimal evolutionary local maxima.
I had to laugh at that. Look at any system you use or work with - it may not be millions of years but as you said silicon is that much faster, is it not?
There is also this other reason. Most of humans do like music but do not spend time on finding something special, extending and deepening knowledge about it and own taste too. For this majority buying a CD or vinyl is unreasonable because all they need is just a sound background. Some other people like it to the point they want to have it when they want and frankly for audiophile types subscribing to this many services to get what they want is not always the best option. I am still buying CDs sometimes. But it is far off from the peak when (20ya?) I could go to a shop once or twice a week and buy multiple pieces. I do not shuffle CDs anymore as the chaos of CD boxes was annoying me - all is digitized and backed up so I use 'internet' radio and some server (do not even recall its name anymore) stacked as VBox in the 'cellar'. I can imagine buying CDs if something nice comes along. Possibly made without big labels 'help'. So I am in line with falling sales. Whether this means death of CD I am not so sure. Vinyl is still there too.
I recall doing contract job in IT in UK some years back. I had to register in NHS too at the beginning. After 6months I left the country and after 2 more I got a letter from NHS that they processed my data and my insurance card is waiting for me. This much for efficiency. This said I do not trust efficiency of the private industry either - there is no benefit for me as a customer if they get efficient. More efficiency here means that I get sucked dry more efficiently. The rest stays the same. From this perspective a naive reader could draw a conclusion that any change would be good. Well if I understand this correctly Amazon is not doing it for me or for industry but to get costs cut. These are own costs that they are cutting so common man can maybe expect some benefits but they way this usually goes they will be paid with something else. So whether anybody but its CEO and possible shareholders get anything out of it remains to be seen.
Russian probably did it. They stole some mails. In best tradition of propaganda instead of dealing with both the mails which apparently indicate some serious wrongdoing AND the hacking we just blame Ruskis for Trump.
Ruskis probably indeed did it. This, contrary to the mass hysteria we see, did not change the course of the world. We do it too and are never admitting this happens unless there is no other way.
Bottom line is this: Trump would have become a president anyway. And what security services say is irrelevant as they say what is necessary to say. The real reports are maybe for Presidents but I am not sure all of them get on presidential desks.
In our house we release when it compiles, does this qualify for 'first time right' or 'it wobbles trough the door' strategy?
single male in a female society - that means there are no male role models and you are just a strange female so nobody likes you.
Looks like a goal of #metoo-ers.
I agree with all but better sw - the sw is as crapy as it used to be. In some cases the toys just look more shiny.
You will not find a completely free market even in failed state. Go to Somalia to see how that works in hardly functioning one. There are limits and rules even there. The fact is that commies to which you refer only claimed suspension of market economy while what they did is heavy handed controls of everything including expression of one's mind. We still used money in allowed and also in not allowed ways (black market). I have never been to NK but I am sure with all their ideology it is only that - ideology and they use some sort of market system possibly even with (omg) money. Human societies developed many ways of fixing the problem of hungry people not being able to find means of earning the living. This goes from summary executions, trough charity, limits on residence in some areas to state sponsored welfare programs. I suppose besides summary execution some mix of state violence to prevent looting and overflowing of the area by beggars from elsewhere and welfare and charity is working in almost any country in this world. The q. here is: which of these methods should be sponsored by the state and in particular if the state can force businesses to provide minimum wage. I do not know the answer and I suspect it is different depending on the society and current conditions. Claiming however that minimum wage on its own destroy business is just not supported by facts.
Bitcoin this and that - company 'does' bitcoin and its stock goes ballistic. The other one is that the good ride on stock market will continue. In some cases accompanied by dismissing the fact that we are historically in area just before crash. I wonder if it goes bang this year or next. I go for this one,. I recall reading how financial instruments 'disconnect' from real market just proved that we are in new era. That was end of 2007 and first half of 2008. OC I do not know it. I just see some signs. Let see if there will be indeed a big bang this year and if so how big the mess will be. ECB is still throwing billions into the market. EU Target2 still looks like a disaster waiting to happen. Good day everybody.
It is sadly so. Yet there is no way that CEO of a company should care about that. Not in their capacity of CEO. As a human being yes but making profit while following the law is what they are supposed to do. The part of making profits may include not behaving like an arse but it is never main part of it.
Yes I think too that the robotics will change our societies in violent and not always good ways. Some will find occupation elsewhere. Some like me will not because they cannot talk nice to people and be with all their skills just discarded.
There is indeed not, Not in TFA. In reality I live in my boss has to justify employment of men. She does not have to do that for women. The dynamic is there.
They may be - there is always a chance however small that may be. There will always be a difference. This is incomprehensible for majority and used on purpose by minority. It is wrong to discriminate for any reason of course. I started to be discriminated against because while in Germany where I live normalized difference between wages is below 2% the target as described by leading politicians, activists and media is said to be 20%. Clearly after fixing that difference I will be heavily discriminated against. I hope we never get there but with current way of leading any discussion we may just very well be heading this direction.
easy, easy - we live in 21st century so all is possible with bit of patience and effort - we can even reach situation where big part of blow job desiring population gets it from people they desire to get it from, this includes all combinations. OC there will be some left that will need to get their satisfaction elsewhere but such is life. There is no reason to go ballistic on this this and oppress people because of their choice of bj giving party.
This goes a bit further: you normalize for position, experience and company (the same job and skills set but different companies and you may have different wage etc) and you get at proper result. In a study after study this has been around 2% in Western Europe. So you go and fix that and I am ok with that. The problem is that most of the warriors for a better future are fighting to fix difference that is allegedly about 20% (socialists in Germany claimed 17% last year). This has no relationship to reality but in a world where for claiming reality you get James Damored you should not expect justice. How current injustice against men fixes previous injustice against women I am still waiting to see.
They may be useless or not but have nice avatars.
Am I the only one that read it "AI Force" instead of "Air Force"?
They have characteristics that are no very good for their popularity: high price, not so good range and lengthy charging (yes I know you can blastcharge such car too but even then it costs you significant amount of time). If you add to this that any reasonable and well informed to be owner looks at overall footprint such cars have on environment they may just give up buying it. Not in Norway where almost all electricity is produced is hydro and they produce more of it than they use. :how many other places can do the same? I also wonder how they are going to stop massive immigration that is troubling the countries on the other side of the peninsula and on the other side of Baltic. But this is another subject. The point here is: Norway is almost like Elysium. I hope for them it stays so. I do not see them as an example we all can follow.
As other posters already pointed out Norway is a nice country and a place you would surely like. Their population density and wealth make it a place to be. Only lack of sun is a small problem but hey you can have lamps blowing darkness and melancholia away and all ecologically neutral! The only problem here is
And Norway produces more hydro-electricty than they consume - meaning the dismal overall electric cars CO2 footprint is in Norway positive and the only negative is the price and range of which government takes care - in form of direct taxes and subsidies as well as subsidies for the network of chargers. This approach has consequences. They can claim they are indeed cleaner than anybody else and keep pointing fingers at say Germans etc. Other than that go ahead and show me that this is beneficial for me. Instead I have government forcing me to pay for your privilege.
In other words Norway while being definitely a leader cannot be given as an example to follow.
Statistics and reasoning and ability to make arguments w/o at least denigrating the opponent are skills not available to majority of humankind. This is a major fail and something we will never alleviate, not in all humans. So there is a problem in the whole population. You can see it everywhere else - in SW development or engineering (which sadly SW development has hardly ever become). What I observe is that even publications that used to (try to) stay objective like the Economist are suffering from major 'left' tilt.The public is agitated and this shows here too.
Why has this been marked as troll? It is an innocent joke. Are we this far in lack of humour that in all that nazi/metoo/ecological collapse/Trump deception/what else we have no time for a normal conversation? I guess yes.