I think the actual reason is to stop people holding up banks with replica guns; after all, if you're not planning to shoot anyone, you can hold up a bank with a replica just as well as with a real gun. No neither to worry about finding bullets or all that cleaning either.
Not only Ubuntu, but what about Openmoko, Maemo, Android, OLPC et al? Ok, we're probably not going to see patched Android kernels, but there seems like a lot of projects that could benefit from this, if it's as good as we're told it is.
Possibly, although the prison sentence is describe as "harsh", a comment that influenced my original reading of the summary. I suppose we can agree that Soulskill could use a clearer writing style; hard though, I guess, if you're just copy and pasting bits of the New York Times.
I'm worried about the tone of the submission, however; Soulskill thinks that if you cause a fatal accident you should "merely face a fine". What a fucking moron.
The volunteering the people of the RNLI do goes much, much, further than digging trenches for fibre; they save a lot of lives. Well done to them, and to FibreStream for sponsoring; I've not heard of the latter before, but I'll look into their services next time I'm after fibre.
Slashdot loves to get hysterical about CCTV cameras in the UK and the subsequent lack of privacy every British citizen suffers; maybe someone's got some footage of this waste being loaded onto the ship? That would probably make kdawson's head explode.
Having said that, had the person in charge had training with the military, it would have been common sense for him to NOT share sensitive data...but because he had no military background, he had no forethought for such things.
Still, I've never done anything for the military and I still wouldn't give secrets to the Chinese and Iranians. Not unless I got a free holiday out of it, or maybe some beers.
HP Procurve equipment supports both DHCP helper addresses and DHCP snooping. So yes, you need to do it properly, but you can do it properly (and with a free lifetime warranty) without Cisco.
It'd almost be perfect if it was for the fact that to make it work in the office I'm going to have to turn off caching on the proxy for that site. Otherwise everyone's going to pass now that I've visited on my Ubuntu powered laptop.
It seems that Conficker's authors could get round the tests without any trouble too; just roll out an update that blocks everything from F-secure et al. except the nice logos.
One of the problems Ubuntu has from a selling standpoint is that Gnome's look, even with the Ubuntu customized settings, look like a dull hodgepodge ripoff of Windows XP and OS X Panther.
If you can't get people to use your distro because it looks like it's way past its prime, then it doesn't matter how useable it actually is. People need to see past ideology and make something that looks like what people are likely to want to use.
In other words, brown is bad in this instance.
Unfortunately I don't think you've really got the gist of this thread, nor used the software in question. The OP was talking about the colour of the desktop wallpaper - let's not bring ideology into this. Also I don't agree with you when you say that Ubuntu looks "look like a dull hodgepodge ripoff of Windows XP and OS X Panther."
Yes, previous brown Ubuntus looked bad, that was the starting point of my original post, but in this instance brown Ubuntu looks good.
And that's ignoring the fact that I've shown 8.10 to a number of people, both highly technical and those who find double clicking hard, all of whom seemed to be impressed by the default look of the software. To repeat myself then:
When using previous Ubuntu versions, the first thing I would do after installation was the theme to something less brown. I downloaded and installed the 8.10 beta the day it was released and it was beautiful - no need to change a thing - I loved it.
Sadly an update replaced the beta's wallpaper with, what I imagine is, the wallpaper for the final release. It looks like crap so I changed to a solid brown background.
Ubuntu are employing people to do design work now and it really shows. Yes, you get a brown desktop background, no, this isn't what Microsoft or Apple would sell you (unless you've got a Zune, I guess), but yes, it looks wonderful.
An operating system is more than the colour of the background image, of course, so I really shouldn't be labouring the point so hard, or feeding the troll; if you don't like it you could change it - don't judge the whole thing on its theme. Having said that, in 8.10 brown works well.
When, exactly, did this anarchic utopia exist? Since the rise of history people across the world have been tightly controlled by regulating powers. Not the governments of the modern world, perhaps, but certainly powers from above that imposed restriction. Medieval Europe, anything from the Bible's New Testament, the American continent since its "discovery" by Europeans. In prehistoric groups, and in examples from modern day hunter gatherer communities, considerable evidence exists that people were and are bound by rules that dictate their behaviour. Your previous example of the priest demonstrates the point perfectly; religion is a strict social controller and has been for a very long time.
By definition humans have to follow regulations, whether prescribed by a government or not; it's the only way to get on in any sort of society. Don't believe me? Go and sleep with your best mate's wife; it's not illegal, but it probably breaks a social norm that exists between you and your best mate. When he then gets upset you'll see how impossible it is to live in a world without regulations.
Had this occurred in the past these kids will still have annoyed other people and their fancy chair would still likely be taken off them. Your rose-tinted "oh, the past was great" statement is really just you inventing some happy time and place that operated just as you'd like. In the real world such a thing has never existed.
Did you carry an entire encyclopaedia with you to the coffee shop?
On the plus side, he didn't carry Wikipedia to the coffee shop either! Sounds like win-win to me;)
Odd, I guess you're not hanging out with the cool crowd.
I'm in the UK and see them pretty regularly; I was at an Open Data workgroup last week and there must have been 20 macs there, a dell running Ubuntu and nothing else.
A woman from the British Library even had a Macbook Air.
We set up an office in France and were told that "everyone over here uses Macs", which was nice, but that's not the sort of thing we're going to be spending money on;)
What with all the formatting changes and the like, and now stories like this, I suppose the time has come to never visit Slashdot again. What the hell's going on? I can't wait to see what poor unfortunates are mocked on this almost unreadable website next!
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I think the actual reason is to stop people holding up banks with replica guns; after all, if you're not planning to shoot anyone, you can hold up a bank with a replica just as well as with a real gun. No neither to worry about finding bullets or all that cleaning either.
Not only Ubuntu, but what about Openmoko, Maemo, Android, OLPC et al? Ok, we're probably not going to see patched Android kernels, but there seems like a lot of projects that could benefit from this, if it's as good as we're told it is.
I thought that Colossus would take this title? Not only is it older and British, but it's also (I'm told) the World's oldest electronic computer.
Problem is that all that stuff in space is much harder to get to than Paris, although probably less hostile to foreigners.
To kill a Snow Leopard.
All depends on how you count, I guess...
Possibly, although the prison sentence is describe as "harsh", a comment that influenced my original reading of the summary. I suppose we can agree that Soulskill could use a clearer writing style; hard though, I guess, if you're just copy and pasting bits of the New York Times.
+1
I'm worried about the tone of the submission, however; Soulskill thinks that if you cause a fatal accident you should "merely face a fine". What a fucking moron.
The volunteering the people of the RNLI do goes much, much, further than digging trenches for fibre; they save a lot of lives. Well done to them, and to FibreStream for sponsoring; I've not heard of the latter before, but I'll look into their services next time I'm after fibre.
For once, a well earned Slashvertisment.
That's what you get for reading the press release... Here is the original site; here is the code.
Slashdot loves to get hysterical about CCTV cameras in the UK and the subsequent lack of privacy every British citizen suffers; maybe someone's got some footage of this waste being loaded onto the ship? That would probably make kdawson's head explode.
On software licenses... Lower their TCO and get to the Moon? We do these things not because they are easy, but because they are hard.
Still, I've never done anything for the military and I still wouldn't give secrets to the Chinese and Iranians. Not unless I got a free holiday out of it, or maybe some beers.
I'm sure there's going to be a lot of band jokes coming about "blocked tubes" and the like.
HP Procurve equipment supports both DHCP helper addresses and DHCP snooping. So yes, you need to do it properly, but you can do it properly (and with a free lifetime warranty) without Cisco.
It'd almost be perfect if it was for the fact that to make it work in the office I'm going to have to turn off caching on the proxy for that site. Otherwise everyone's going to pass now that I've visited on my Ubuntu powered laptop.
It seems that Conficker's authors could get round the tests without any trouble too; just roll out an update that blocks everything from F-secure et al. except the nice logos.
One of the problems Ubuntu has from a selling standpoint is that Gnome's look, even with the Ubuntu customized settings, look like a dull hodgepodge ripoff of Windows XP and OS X Panther.
If you can't get people to use your distro because it looks like it's way past its prime, then it doesn't matter how useable it actually is. People need to see past ideology and make something that looks like what people are likely to want to use.
In other words, brown is bad in this instance.
Unfortunately I don't think you've really got the gist of this thread, nor used the software in question. The OP was talking about the colour of the desktop wallpaper - let's not bring ideology into this. Also I don't agree with you when you say that Ubuntu looks "look like a dull hodgepodge ripoff of Windows XP and OS X Panther."
Yes, previous brown Ubuntus looked bad, that was the starting point of my original post, but in this instance brown Ubuntu looks good.
And that's ignoring the fact that I've shown 8.10 to a number of people, both highly technical and those who find double clicking hard, all of whom seemed to be impressed by the default look of the software. To repeat myself then:
In other words, brown is good in this instance.
Indeed.
When using previous Ubuntu versions, the first thing I would do after installation was the theme to something less brown. I downloaded and installed the 8.10 beta the day it was released and it was beautiful - no need to change a thing - I loved it.
Sadly an update replaced the beta's wallpaper with, what I imagine is, the wallpaper for the final release. It looks like crap so I changed to a solid brown background.
Ubuntu are employing people to do design work now and it really shows. Yes, you get a brown desktop background, no, this isn't what Microsoft or Apple would sell you (unless you've got a Zune, I guess), but yes, it looks wonderful.
An operating system is more than the colour of the background image, of course, so I really shouldn't be labouring the point so hard, or feeding the troll; if you don't like it you could change it - don't judge the whole thing on its theme. Having said that, in 8.10 brown works well.
I've been using the Ubuntu install CD to fix Windows problems for years now; never fails ;-)
http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/09/06/1755216&from=rss
When, exactly, did this anarchic utopia exist? Since the rise of history people across the world have been tightly controlled by regulating powers. Not the governments of the modern world, perhaps, but certainly powers from above that imposed restriction. Medieval Europe, anything from the Bible's New Testament, the American continent since its "discovery" by Europeans. In prehistoric groups, and in examples from modern day hunter gatherer communities, considerable evidence exists that people were and are bound by rules that dictate their behaviour. Your previous example of the priest demonstrates the point perfectly; religion is a strict social controller and has been for a very long time.
By definition humans have to follow regulations, whether prescribed by a government or not; it's the only way to get on in any sort of society. Don't believe me? Go and sleep with your best mate's wife; it's not illegal, but it probably breaks a social norm that exists between you and your best mate. When he then gets upset you'll see how impossible it is to live in a world without regulations.
Had this occurred in the past these kids will still have annoyed other people and their fancy chair would still likely be taken off them. Your rose-tinted "oh, the past was great" statement is really just you inventing some happy time and place that operated just as you'd like. In the real world such a thing has never existed.
It's not up to Steve Jobs to make it easy for you!
I thought that was the whole point of buying a mac!
On the plus side, he didn't carry Wikipedia to the coffee shop either! Sounds like win-win to me
Odd, I guess you're not hanging out with the cool crowd.
;)
I'm in the UK and see them pretty regularly; I was at an Open Data workgroup last week and there must have been 20 macs there, a dell running Ubuntu and nothing else.
A woman from the British Library even had a Macbook Air.
We set up an office in France and were told that "everyone over here uses Macs", which was nice, but that's not the sort of thing we're going to be spending money on
What with all the formatting changes and the like, and now stories like this, I suppose the time has come to never visit Slashdot again. What the hell's going on? I can't wait to see what poor unfortunates are mocked on this almost unreadable website next!