This may be an absurd suggestion, but given that internet access is somewhat required to participate in society today, perhaps it's time to class internet access as a utility like water and electricity/gas.
Good point except that it often costs more just to post an item here in Australia than the combined product price + postage cost from China to Australia - so something is still amiss.
I doubt the situation is the same for America and for volume distribution, but I can have an item shipped from China to Australia for less than I can post the same item within Australia - often when including the purchase price of the item. Yep, that's right, just the postal cost within Australia is more than the purchase price + postage cost from China to the same location in Australia.
There most certainly are some odd shenanigans going on here.
Please excuse my absolute ignorance, but I was under the impression that classical information channel was only required to transmit one of the entangled photons. If one of the entangled photons (or what ever it is that is entangled) was transported elsewhere (truck, fiber optics, what-not) the two entangled would still maintain the same state (spin etc) and information could then be transmitted faster than light by changing the state of one and reading the state of the other.
I'm sure I just displayed my ignorance and lack of any understanding of QT, but there are sure to be others with this same understanding so it may be worth while pointing out where I've got this wrong.
Is your last sentence "You cannot do that with classical means, because you'd need to measure the state, thereby collapsing it into a classical state." the reason why this does not work?
Memorizing facts such as the times tables is a tool in its self. Facts allow us to problem solve in real time without the need to calculate all the constituent parts used in the decision making process.
Memorized facts are one tool of many that allow is to solve problems and learn new things.
I'm not sure why everyone here is discussing teaching and the use of computers in school - it has very little to do with the premise of the article.
This has nothing to do with the classroom or school and everything to do with outside of school.
I'm also convinced that excessive computer (read Internet/Games/Entertainment) use does hinder the social and real world skills of children.
Instead of climbing trees, going fishing, building things in dad's shed, experimenting with the things around the house and most importantly doing these things with their friends/siblings/etc (ie, developing social skills) a lot of children now just play games, browse the web (read social sites), etc.
I don't believe that the social interaction they have online is a replacement for real world social interaction - if anything is mostly harmful (physiologically) albeit entertaining, nor is are the skills they learn online a replacement for real world skills.
Often when there’s a mad cow outbreak, panicked people stop eating red meat which is then pulled from supermarket shelves. But humans can’t get the disease by simply eating regular cow meat. Generally, a human will only be infected if they eat the nerve tissue—brains or spinal cord—of an infected animal. People cannot get the disease by simply eating muscle meat like ground beef or steak, or by drinking milk from an infected cow. Additionally, humans cannot spread it to each other through casual contact. However, people who have spent more than 3 months in an area where many cases of mad cow disease have been reported aren’t allowed to give blood in the U.S.
Point 2) (reflecting on your original comment):
Thoroughly cooking meat won’t help
You could scorch the meat, roast it into shoe leather, nuke it beyond recognition, and boil it for hours on the stove, but that won’t protect you from the deadly CJD variant. The prions aren’t affected by heat or other methods used to kill food-borne pathogens. Prions can survive in extremes, requiring upwards of 1,800 degrees of heat to be neutralized. Even sterilization processes used by hospitals are largely ineffective.
I never claimed that the infectious agent is not present in the meat. But 'well' cooking your meat isn't going to help your (awesomely intelligent non dipshit) chances of not getting CJD in any case. So keep destroying that meat 'just to be safe' though.
I'm totally comfortable eating my delicious rare fillet steak - CJD is the least of my concerns.
I would be concerned if I was you though since the first sign of CJD is being an obnoxious tosser.
Very informative, well done, you should feel proud.
While you're sitting there feeling all proud, you may want to educate yourself on CJD (the thing you're calling 'mad cow disease') since you will not be getting it from eating steak: http://www.thedailybeast.com/a...
what they're talking about if they just follow along with the herd.
Really?
Sounds like you've never had good steak - it's not a fad, not a herd mentality. Good quality rare steak is divine. Well done steak is.... eh.
But this really depends on the cut and quality of the meat (butt end fillet is the way to go). Bad meat is bad any way it's cooked, and in fact it's more palatable when well cooked (ie, not rare). But I avoid poor quality steak and opt to have a different cut cooked differently (slow cooked roast is the way to go for poor quality cuts) rather than eat bad steak (I just don't see the point of it).
The issue is not 'it looks foreign', it's a fscking productivity nightmare. I've been using Gnome 3 since it came out, and still every day it annoys the crappers out of me. I've been too focused on my work to change to something else, but it's wearing very thin and I'm going to switch very soon.
I think this is the root of this issue with the Gnome foundation - you are part of that foundation and your impression is that users don't like it because it's foreign. That's plain old wrong. It's not a good design for a productive desktop.
The alt-tab/alt-esc shenanigans is just ridiculous, every time I switch machines (yes my works forces me to use Windows for some stuff) I have to stop and think - "Oh what machine am I on, what keys to I press" - Sure the Gnome way might be better, but heck, they may have well made my keyboard switch to dvorak when I'm synergy'ing to my Linux box.
I imagine I can change this (maybe?) but I'm busy, I don't have time to manage configuring my desktop to be normal again. And if I use someone else's desktop I'm still going to land on the same issue unless they've tweaked theirs too.
This is just one of the many "desktop usability regressions" I find with Gnome3 and the real world benefit for this change alludes me. But as it is now, alt-tab is the "Show me a random window" key combo.
First off, you're taxing my pay to pay someone else to tell me something I already know
Great - so you already know, good for you. I too already know this, but the majority of the populous do not. The government can't only consider minority groups, the mass population is equally important to them.
private consumer watchdogs (plural) which would be more effective and efficient
Sorry, but who is going to fund this? And what is their motivator? I'm missing something here.
then there is perceived to be less or no need to weigh your choices carefully, to research before buying
I'm not sure if you're arrogant or ignorant here, but the general population does not have the education or sometimes the intelligence to make sensible choices that require knowledge and information they don't posses. Just because I (believe I) am smart and have the ability to discern the difference between snake oil and the real thing doesn't make it right for me to project that ability onto the rest of the population.
I sounds to me that you think it's right to allow mega corps to peddle any wares and allude to any claim and leave the people to sort this out individually - that's not a fair game.
I'm a believer that we should not meddle too much with peoples ability to make choices - but at the same time we need to arm the people with the information they need to make these choices. But you're siding with the corporations here, they have the balance of power (ignorant customers, and lots of money). This is all that need to be fixed.
I also believe that as a whole, humans are becoming more and more stupid (ie, not able to make what 'I' consider sensible decisions) and that's a shame, but that doesn't mean our government should allow large corporations take advantage of these people in situations like this. Yes, the are already taking advantage of us in a myriad of ways but health is something that deserves special attention.
You mention your tax dollars being spent to educate the ignorant, would you prefer that your tax dollars be spent saving the lives of those who believed the pedallers and now may need significantly more expensive treatment due to not treating their issue properly initially? <-- lots of speculation there, but my point is that it is not a cut and dry situation. Remember in Australia that healthcare is primarily funded by the government - they also have a vested interest in using the tax dollars in the best way for the people (yes that made me laugh too:) )
Ironically a measure supposedly to benefit consumers tends to actually work against their interests.
That sounds like opinion and speculation - sure there are cases both ways, but 'tends' may be a bit strong.
That situation has not changed. The only thing that is changing is an attempt to educate the populous that there are no real effects other than the possible placebo effect.
These products can still be sold, purchased and taken - but it's nice to know that people are being educated that the claimed benefits of these products are purely the speculation of the seller and not a belief of the traditional medical professionals (or 'domestic medicines safety watchdog' if you will).
So people are still free to buy the nonsense being sold.
To me this is absolutely forward thinking (more information is usually a good thing).
I think this has some basis, but probably varies between different cultures and social groups.
Here in Australia I see this all the time (so it's only anecdotal evidence) it's very obvious that the low tier middle income earners and also the 'dole' receivers seem to always have the latest and greatest electronic devices, spend lots on entertainment etc. Whereas those with higher incomes tend to be somewhat more thrifty with their spending.
I assume this is not a coincidence - I think it's due to the same motivating forces that encourage people to seek and work towards higher incomes place higher value on their money and therefore tend to be more thrifty. Obviously there is always the other motivators such as wanting to appear and feel equally or more wealthy than those who are more wealthy.
It's probably also influenced by the fact that the more wealthy set their sights on larger big ticket items and are more willing to forgo the trinkets as they aim for the items that the less wealthy see as 'out-of-their-reach' (think houses, college degrees, early retirement, etc).
I myself forgo trinkets (new phones, the latest big screen TV, latest model car) and am more than happy to keep and use my existing gear since I have no need to feel or show my wealth. I know MANY people who have and earn a significantly lower income than I yet their priorities seem to lean more towards having and showing off their latest gadgets (which from my point of view do the same task equally as well as the previous trinket they just replaced).
I don't discount though that this may just be what I have experienced and other cultures and social groups may be quite different, but I'd *assume* it's the same throughout the majority of the western world.
Don't overlook the power cable too (these guys have great ones http://www.dedicatedaudio.com/... ) - thought this is not a performance thing, but will greatly improve the audio.
Now, I just need to find some wooden knobs to fix that hideous 'colouring' of the sound coming from these damn plastic ones.
It doesn't spontaneously change the light - it puts a priority request to the traffic management system (which may or may not be granted depending on the system rules) and the signal change times are adjusted accordingly - any interfacing with the system would be able to be aware of this change to.
This is actually no different than a pedestrian pressing the walk button to possibly change the sequence sooner.
Disclaimer: I've worked on interfacing to some traffic control systems for providing priority through intersections to specific vehicles (GPS+GPRS+known route).
Actually I think the count down timers are somewhat superior to the car-to-car-trafficControlSystem tech with regards to:
1) Works for ALL cars that already exist. 2) Doesn't require interfacing the car to the traffic control system (which are different in many countries - we use SCATS here in most of Australia). 3) Doesn't require the traffic control system to interface with external networks (eliminating a possible attack vector).
Surely photography would be a better reference - I'm assuming that the vast majority of 'globally influencing' pollution would have occurred after colour photography became popular.
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Yep, I expect that is the case. But that last leg is still an interstate delivery (for me) so there is still a massive discrepancy.
This may be an absurd suggestion, but given that internet access is somewhat required to participate in society today, perhaps it's time to class internet access as a utility like water and electricity/gas.
Good point except that it often costs more just to post an item here in Australia than the combined product price + postage cost from China to Australia - so something is still amiss.
Is there a similar agreement between the Chinese government and Australia Post? Since we obviously don't have USPS here in Australia.
I doubt the situation is the same for America and for volume distribution, but I can have an item shipped from China to Australia for less than I can post the same item within Australia - often when including the purchase price of the item. Yep, that's right, just the postal cost within Australia is more than the purchase price + postage cost from China to the same location in Australia.
There most certainly are some odd shenanigans going on here.
Please excuse my absolute ignorance, but I was under the impression that classical information channel was only required to transmit one of the entangled photons. If one of the entangled photons (or what ever it is that is entangled) was transported elsewhere (truck, fiber optics, what-not) the two entangled would still maintain the same state (spin etc) and information could then be transmitted faster than light by changing the state of one and reading the state of the other.
I'm sure I just displayed my ignorance and lack of any understanding of QT, but there are sure to be others with this same understanding so it may be worth while pointing out where I've got this wrong.
Is your last sentence "You cannot do that with classical means, because you'd need to measure the state, thereby collapsing it into a classical state." the reason why this does not work?
I don't agree.
Memorizing facts such as the times tables is a tool in its self. Facts allow us to problem solve in real time without the need to calculate all the constituent parts used in the decision making process.
Memorized facts are one tool of many that allow is to solve problems and learn new things.
I'm not sure why everyone here is discussing teaching and the use of computers in school - it has very little to do with the premise of the article.
This has nothing to do with the classroom or school and everything to do with outside of school.
I'm also convinced that excessive computer (read Internet/Games/Entertainment) use does hinder the social and real world skills of children.
Instead of climbing trees, going fishing, building things in dad's shed, experimenting with the things around the house and most importantly doing these things with their friends/siblings/etc (ie, developing social skills) a lot of children now just play games, browse the web (read social sites), etc.
I don't believe that the social interaction they have online is a replacement for real world social interaction - if anything is mostly harmful (physiologically) albeit entertaining, nor is are the skills they learn online a replacement for real world skills.
Point 1) from that link:
You won’t get it from eating steak
Often when there’s a mad cow outbreak, panicked people stop eating red meat which is then pulled from supermarket shelves. But humans can’t get the disease by simply eating regular cow meat. Generally, a human will only be infected if they eat the nerve tissue—brains or spinal cord—of an infected animal. People cannot get the disease by simply eating muscle meat like ground beef or steak, or by drinking milk from an infected cow. Additionally, humans cannot spread it to each other through casual contact. However, people who have spent more than 3 months in an area where many cases of mad cow disease have been reported aren’t allowed to give blood in the U.S.
Point 2) (reflecting on your original comment):
Thoroughly cooking meat won’t help
You could scorch the meat, roast it into shoe leather, nuke it beyond recognition, and boil it for hours on the stove, but that won’t protect you from the deadly CJD variant. The prions aren’t affected by heat or other methods used to kill food-borne pathogens. Prions can survive in extremes, requiring upwards of 1,800 degrees of heat to be neutralized. Even sterilization processes used by hospitals are largely ineffective.
I never claimed that the infectious agent is not present in the meat. But 'well' cooking your meat isn't going to help your (awesomely intelligent non dipshit) chances of not getting CJD in any case. So keep destroying that meat 'just to be safe' though.
I'm totally comfortable eating my delicious rare fillet steak - CJD is the least of my concerns.
I would be concerned if I was you though since the first sign of CJD is being an obnoxious tosser.
Very informative, well done, you should feel proud.
While you're sitting there feeling all proud, you may want to educate yourself on CJD (the thing you're calling 'mad cow disease') since you will not be getting it from eating steak: http://www.thedailybeast.com/a...
what they're talking about if they just follow along with the herd.
Really?
Sounds like you've never had good steak - it's not a fad, not a herd mentality. Good quality rare steak is divine. Well done steak is .... eh.
But this really depends on the cut and quality of the meat (butt end fillet is the way to go). Bad meat is bad any way it's cooked, and in fact it's more palatable when well cooked (ie, not rare). But I avoid poor quality steak and opt to have a different cut cooked differently (slow cooked roast is the way to go for poor quality cuts) rather than eat bad steak (I just don't see the point of it).
I'm certainly no materials expert but anecdotal evidence does not support your hypothesis.
Most plastic is less scratch resistant than most glass. Most glass is less shatter resistant than most plastics.
Therefore I conclude that: scratch resistance != measure of shatter resistence.
The issue is not 'it looks foreign', it's a fscking productivity nightmare. I've been using Gnome 3 since it came out, and still every day it annoys the crappers out of me. I've been too focused on my work to change to something else, but it's wearing very thin and I'm going to switch very soon.
I think this is the root of this issue with the Gnome foundation - you are part of that foundation and your impression is that users don't like it because it's foreign. That's plain old wrong. It's not a good design for a productive desktop.
The alt-tab/alt-esc shenanigans is just ridiculous, every time I switch machines (yes my works forces me to use Windows for some stuff) I have to stop and think - "Oh what machine am I on, what keys to I press" - Sure the Gnome way might be better, but heck, they may have well made my keyboard switch to dvorak when I'm synergy'ing to my Linux box.
I imagine I can change this (maybe?) but I'm busy, I don't have time to manage configuring my desktop to be normal again. And if I use someone else's desktop I'm still going to land on the same issue unless they've tweaked theirs too.
This is just one of the many "desktop usability regressions" I find with Gnome3 and the real world benefit for this change alludes me. But as it is now, alt-tab is the "Show me a random window" key combo.
First off, you're taxing my pay to pay someone else to tell me something I already know
Great - so you already know, good for you. I too already know this, but the majority of the populous do not. The government can't only consider minority groups, the mass population is equally important to them.
private consumer watchdogs (plural) which would be more effective and efficient
Sorry, but who is going to fund this? And what is their motivator? I'm missing something here.
then there is perceived to be less or no need to weigh your choices carefully, to research before buying
I'm not sure if you're arrogant or ignorant here, but the general population does not have the education or sometimes the intelligence to make sensible choices that require knowledge and information they don't posses. Just because I (believe I) am smart and have the ability to discern the difference between snake oil and the real thing doesn't make it right for me to project that ability onto the rest of the population.
I sounds to me that you think it's right to allow mega corps to peddle any wares and allude to any claim and leave the people to sort this out individually - that's not a fair game.
I'm a believer that we should not meddle too much with peoples ability to make choices - but at the same time we need to arm the people with the information they need to make these choices. But you're siding with the corporations here, they have the balance of power (ignorant customers, and lots of money). This is all that need to be fixed.
I also believe that as a whole, humans are becoming more and more stupid (ie, not able to make what 'I' consider sensible decisions) and that's a shame, but that doesn't mean our government should allow large corporations take advantage of these people in situations like this. Yes, the are already taking advantage of us in a myriad of ways but health is something that deserves special attention.
You mention your tax dollars being spent to educate the ignorant, would you prefer that your tax dollars be spent saving the lives of those who believed the pedallers and now may need significantly more expensive treatment due to not treating their issue properly initially? <-- lots of speculation there, but my point is that it is not a cut and dry situation. Remember in Australia that healthcare is primarily funded by the government - they also have a vested interest in using the tax dollars in the best way for the people (yes that made me laugh too :) )
Ironically a measure supposedly to benefit consumers tends to actually work against their interests.
That sounds like opinion and speculation - sure there are cases both ways, but 'tends' may be a bit strong.
That situation has not changed. The only thing that is changing is an attempt to educate the populous that there are no real effects other than the possible placebo effect.
These products can still be sold, purchased and taken - but it's nice to know that people are being educated that the claimed benefits of these products are purely the speculation of the seller and not a belief of the traditional medical professionals (or 'domestic medicines safety watchdog' if you will).
So people are still free to buy the nonsense being sold.
To me this is absolutely forward thinking (more information is usually a good thing).
Dunno, but from my observations modern humans seem stressed not not overly happy (though, they have toys and are well fed).
I think you need to have lived like these people before you can make any assessment here.
Especially when this looks nothing like the shape of Australia.
I think this has some basis, but probably varies between different cultures and social groups.
Here in Australia I see this all the time (so it's only anecdotal evidence) it's very obvious that the low tier middle income earners and also the 'dole' receivers seem to always have the latest and greatest electronic devices, spend lots on entertainment etc. Whereas those with higher incomes tend to be somewhat more thrifty with their spending.
I assume this is not a coincidence - I think it's due to the same motivating forces that encourage people to seek and work towards higher incomes place higher value on their money and therefore tend to be more thrifty. Obviously there is always the other motivators such as wanting to appear and feel equally or more wealthy than those who are more wealthy.
It's probably also influenced by the fact that the more wealthy set their sights on larger big ticket items and are more willing to forgo the trinkets as they aim for the items that the less wealthy see as 'out-of-their-reach' (think houses, college degrees, early retirement, etc).
I myself forgo trinkets (new phones, the latest big screen TV, latest model car) and am more than happy to keep and use my existing gear since I have no need to feel or show my wealth. I know MANY people who have and earn a significantly lower income than I yet their priorities seem to lean more towards having and showing off their latest gadgets (which from my point of view do the same task equally as well as the previous trinket they just replaced).
I don't discount though that this may just be what I have experienced and other cultures and social groups may be quite different, but I'd *assume* it's the same throughout the majority of the western world.
Don't overlook the power cable too (these guys have great ones http://www.dedicatedaudio.com/... ) - thought this is not a performance thing, but will greatly improve the audio.
Now, I just need to find some wooden knobs to fix that hideous 'colouring' of the sound coming from these damn plastic ones.
Sitting on top of the chute before falling off?
It doesn't spontaneously change the light - it puts a priority request to the traffic management system (which may or may not be granted depending on the system rules) and the signal change times are adjusted accordingly - any interfacing with the system would be able to be aware of this change to.
This is actually no different than a pedestrian pressing the walk button to possibly change the sequence sooner.
Disclaimer: I've worked on interfacing to some traffic control systems for providing priority through intersections to specific vehicles (GPS+GPRS+known route).
Actually I think the count down timers are somewhat superior to the car-to-car-trafficControlSystem tech with regards to:
1) Works for ALL cars that already exist.
2) Doesn't require interfacing the car to the traffic control system (which are different in many countries - we use SCATS here in most of Australia).
3) Doesn't require the traffic control system to interface with external networks (eliminating a possible attack vector).
Surely photography would be a better reference - I'm assuming that the vast majority of 'globally influencing' pollution would have occurred after colour photography became popular.
No, no, popular cultures also grow in basements..
Australia has not okay'd this, some fsking bureaucratic fsckwits have - but I'm pretty sure most of Australia is pretty pissed about it!