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An SSD for Your Current Computer May Save the Cost of a New One (Video)
Obviously, the first performance enhancement you do on any computer you own is max out the RAM. RAM has gotten cheap, and adding more of it to almost any computer will make it faster without requiring any other modification (or any great skill). The next thing you need to do, says Larry O'Connor, the founder and CEO of Other World Computing (OWC), is move from a "platter" hard drive to a Solid State Drive (SSD). Larry's horse in this race is that his company sells SSDs, mostly for Macs. But he's a real evangelist about SSDs and computer mods in general, even if you buy them from NewEgg, Amazon or another vendor.
A big (vendor-neutral) thing Larry points out is that just because you have a Terabyte drive in your computer now doesn't mean you need a Terabyte SSD, which can easily cost $500. Rather, he says, all you need is a large enough SSD to contain your OS and software and whatever data you're working with at the moment, so you might be able to get by with a 120 GB SSD that costs well under $100. Clone your current main drive, stick in the new SSD, and if your need more storage, get another hard drive (or use your old one). Simple. Efficient. And a lot cheaper than buying a new computer, whether we're talking about home, business or even enterprise use. (Alternate video link.)
A big (vendor-neutral) thing Larry points out is that just because you have a Terabyte drive in your computer now doesn't mean you need a Terabyte SSD, which can easily cost $500. Rather, he says, all you need is a large enough SSD to contain your OS and software and whatever data you're working with at the moment, so you might be able to get by with a 120 GB SSD that costs well under $100. Clone your current main drive, stick in the new SSD, and if your need more storage, get another hard drive (or use your old one). Simple. Efficient. And a lot cheaper than buying a new computer, whether we're talking about home, business or even enterprise use. (Alternate video link.)
YEAH WE KNOW
Soo this is Slashdot, not "Mom Computer Consumer Weekly".
HyperDuo is not a comic book, it is a nifty technology that allows one or more SSDs to be coupled to a standard HDD and treated as a single drive, with the hot data residing on the SSD storage.
Almost every failing of a computer can be related to where the OS sits. I have replaced/installed over 50 new/used computer platters with SSDs as the primary and a platter as the storage. Not only does boot time vanish, but just about everything under the sun is improved. I could ramble on but I think that's what the video does. Basically it's just smarter regardless of whether you use Win/Mac/Linux etc.
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I disagree on 'maxing' it out. I have 16 GB in my mac mini and i dont see a future of me using it all. 8 GB will be fine for the next 4-6 years at least.
Good-bye
SSDs are the next cache layer.
Also, make sure you've got a 6Gb SATA capable motherboard, or you're essentially wasting half your money putting a hot new drive into a slow bus.
There are many times "maxing out your RAM" is a complete waste of money, and does NOT lead to any measurable performance increase. Case in point: my gaming rig can handle 64GB of RAM. I have 32 on it. It BARELY uses 3 of that most of the time. I seriously doubt it ever uses even 8.
Most laptops don't come with the ability to put in two drives so you can't have an SSD and platter. You'd have to have an external USB drive which most users would not want to lug around.
Many people I've known with 128GB SSD run out of space fast. I'd recommend at least 240GB. Another option for light users would be a hybrid SSD.
that you only just switched disk drives in your preexisting comp and are entitled to the OS?
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
Guess I'm out -- my current main drive is 1.5 TB.
Just one problem: If you're still running XP, you're probably still better off with a new computer.
It fixes everything.
Also who in the world, aside from say Video Editors or super computers needs more then 16 GB of RAM?
I know I can cap out at 98GB but isnt that a little over kill? what am I gaining?
CMDRTaco would be rolling over in his grave if he could see this shit.
As the subject, yeah, did this 3 years ago.
SSD for OS and a few things that for some silly reason have to be on the OS drive, big spinny disk for nearly everything else and a small USB3 flash drive for certain applications where seek time is the main bottleneck but I don't want them adding to the wear and tear on my OS drive.
It works quite nicely, give it a try if you aren't certain you already have better.
1TB for $500? Remember when the 16gb ones were expensive as hell just a few years back?
I guess they're bound to replace platter based drives even for storage by the end of the decade, since that just really budged in capacity significantly in years.
Right now doing fine with a 256gb one. 128gb ended up cramped far too often with os/apps and normal downloads.
Depending on what you use to do the clone it'll do it as long as the used space (rather than the drive size) will fit on the SSD. I did it to my laptop, going from a 750 GB HDD to a 120 GB SSD. Need to tell it to go proportional on the partition sizes, or some cloning software has an SSD migration tool.
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... the problem with buying a small SSD is that you'll just want to upgrade anyway later. So you should just take the plunge and get a reasonably sized SSD so that you can run common intensive apps off the SSD. Traditional HD's are just for storage/movies/big stuff. Most people only use a few common programs at a time so having enough space on an SSD for things you use frequently is a must. It just makes your life that much easier and you won't have to upgrade until many years later when program sizes or some new tech forces the issue.
Have 32 GB of ram 18 GB of which currently used by OS disk cache. There is no disk delay to do anything. A week after starting a VMware workstation image it is always still cached in ram and resumes instantly. All of my apps and everything load instantly with no disk related delay.
Given that reality $130 for 3TBs of platters is still a much better deal.
My machine suspends to ram when not in use and reboots less than once a month to install patches. Boot times are irrelevant as is time needed to initially load applications and datasets.
SSDs... for Macs.
Reminds me of the exorbitantly marked up LaCie SCSI drives for suckers.
I am becoming gerund, destroyer of verbs.
They may have fine SSDs, but the ones I bought to add to 2 mac minis were ridiculously slow for SSDs. Around 80 MBps read/write according to BlackMagic's disk speed test. Not faster than the original normal drive that came with the machines. In one of the Mac minis, I replaced the OWC with a Samsung, and it's much faster (I forgot how much, but certainly over 120 MBps).
So in conclusion, yes, SSD may improve performance, but only if they are fast SSDs. Some aren't and won't make a big difference. (and when they fail, they tend to do so without warning and completely, so be sure to always have backups).
Yes, because Windows makes it oh so easy to move user profiles to other volumes.
For Linux users, it's really easy:
mount -o rw /dev/sdb1 /mnt/tmp /home/. /mnt/tmp/home /home #to make sure everything moved. /dev/sdb1 /home (ideally, add ,acl to enable access control lists)
mv
ls -lh
mount -o rw
. . . then add it to fstab to make it permanent.
On Windows, each user has to go to each individual folder and move it - and only lets you move certain folders. To do it globally it requires registry edits, which Joe Sixpack will inevitably screw up.
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all you need is a large enough SSD to contain your OS and software and whatever data you're working with at the moment,
Can the Linux kernel be configured to use a SSD as a 2nd-level disk cache, behind the RAM cache, so that you don't need to manually put your working data in the SSD?
Who visits this site and doesn't already know this? I've been salvaging laptops (for a fee) by putting in SSDs for years. As long as it has SATA, slap one in (sure, they made PATA SSDs but why?). And no, a RAM drive is not the same unless you have external power for the RAM or you never turn you PC off. Disks have been a bottleneck since the invention of the PC. Only now can you have an average PC where the CPU is (sometimes) the largest bottleneck. Next up, you can speed up your computer by removing HPs bloated all-in-one software suite. No shit.
If you power goes out for a moment while your platter drive is writing, you may have some corrupted data. If your power goes out while an SSD is writing, it will be toast. A total loss. Bricked. Data gone. In a laptop the battery acts as a UPS. Desktops not so much...
Uhh...not exactly. In fact, his subsequent logic about why lots of people don't need terabyte magnetic disks applies directly to this point about RAM. If your system supports 16GB of RAM but all you ever do is browse the web and check email then you almost certainly don't need to max out your system's RAM. In fact, you could probably make do with 4GB.
*cough*
I'm running a computer at work (IBM P4 @ 2.4Ghz) and (the now unsupported) Windows XP. It's nothing big, a 32Gb 1.8" OCZ Onyx SATA II - it boots from POST to ready to run in about 10 seconds. Doesn't feel anywhere near the 12-13 years old it actually is.
Sort of.
Have a look at bcache. It is part of mainline kernel since 3.10
http://bcache.evilpiepirate.org/
"Bcache is a Linux kernel block layer cache. It allows one or more fast disk drives such as flash-based solid state drives (SSDs) to act as a cache for one or more slower hard disk drives."
It is quite awesome.
"Obviously, the first performance enhancement you do on any computer you own is max out the RAM"
What kind of clueless moron wrote that nonsense?
my HD died in my macbook last year
it was out of warranty so i bought a hybrid drive at best buy. 1TB with 32MB of flash and it made a huge difference in speed.
pure SSD is most likely faster, but not enough for me to shell out all that money for a second here and there
1: That any SSD's available for the platform aren't bottlenecked
2: That the machine in question has the room to hold both drives
3: That SSD's have no issues with write times, space allocation, or the like.
Physical drives are here to stay given that they don't rely on those three assumptions to exist.
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There's a few methods to do this. The first is bcache which allows an SSD/Flash memory to be combined to form a hybrid volume. Another is Flashcache which is a little more transparent (as I understand it) with respect to the file system.
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This post probably deserves an off-topic mod. I know. With that out of the way...
I'll admit, since my comment on the last video, I've been curious what the next would be like. Roblimo, I don't know if you saw or cared about my comment, but I notice that this story is far better. As of this writing, there is not a single comment complaining about advertising, even though there's still only a single company directly involved. The focus is more general, and that makes the whole thing much more appealing. Kudos to you. It makes me happy to think that I might be improving Slashdot in some small way.
Granted, the subject is a bit under the typical Slashdotter's level of expertise, but that's beside the point. This would have been really nice when I was explaining to a former boss how SSDs should properly be used. He thought I was crazy for suggesting that the documents he wanted to have instant access to should be on the slower drive.
You do not have a moral or legal right to do absolutely anything you want.
Theoretically the disk controller could initially access only the spinning platter, and then only the frequently-accessed blocks (reads or writes) would get relocated to the flash drive.
But then I do OpenStack development.
Spinning up VMs on qemu via OpenStack running on Virtualbox instances. Whee!
Seriously, I thought this was common sense.
Ahem. $500 is ******* expensive. That's more than my entire (brand new) PC, including monitor and printer!
$50 is cheap. I'm still waiting for ~120GB SSDs to reach $50. Right now you can get 32GB for $44, 64GB for $50 (too small) or 120GB for $66 (still too expensive).
I tested and windows had no substantial improvement booting from SSD, nor working on my usual apps. Windows must do a lot of writing during boot compared to most OS.
Linux benefited tremendously, from 90 second boot to 13 seconds. Usual apps were loading in less than three seconds.
An SSD for your computer may save the cost of growing a pair?
I get the idea about maxing the RAM out - faster speeds and all that. What I don't understand is how moving to an SSD drive saves the cost on a new computer? I mean, what does it add to the new computer that saves money?
An SSD has faster read/write times I've heard, but doesn't that still leave the bottleneck of the CPU? Is it supposed to act as RAM or a pagefile location or something?
The summary just left me scratching my head.
SSDs are completely overrated, unless you're doing lots of video editing or the like, that requires I/O at speeds unfeasible for an HDD.
Even with the HDDs, boot times are already so fast, upgrading purely for that is just idiotic.
My Linux install with a full fledged KDE install can cold-boot into a fully functional desktop within 15 seconds, and I haven't even tried to optimise this any, and can sleep/resume in a few seconds.
I'd rather splurge on RAM so the OS can just cache more stuff in memory, I've already got 16GB, which is more than twice as much as I ever use.
Actually no, only access to the hot data improves, but it's not a cache in the strict sense of the word, it's a striped set where the hot data is determined in real time and stored on the SSD part of the stripe. There is no fetching "off the actual spinning storage drive" for data that's stored on the SSD, since, well, that data isn't ON the HDD. This is assuming a person is using the recommended "capacity mode" (striping) and not the mirror mode. However, even for the mirror mode you're perfectly wrong in that reads come from the SSD and WRITES are slow because they have to write through to both drives.
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Full subject: An SSD for Your Current Computer May Save the Cost of a New One
Yippee!! Free SSD!!
If only there was a controller card with a co-processor (maybe a little ARM SoC) that could determine dynamically which was which and then assign the hot data to the SSD and the other data to the HDD automatically, constantly reevaluating which was which and making it all transparent. Oh wait, that's EXACTLY what HyperDuo is .....
I'm actually embarassed for you, /.
wth..
I'm from an era when computers cost $3k for a POS that got obsolete within 18 months.
Anyway, I was talking relatively.
As always, it's a matter of tradeoffs.
I run a small lab of computers, and I decided to try upgrading them to 128GB SSDs. The fast computers with Windows 8 became even faster. The slow computers with Windows Vista did not improve dramatically.
Especially the small desktop with the 1.6GHz Core Duo. A lot of time is spent on hard disk access, but get slow enough and a huge amount of time is actually waiting on the CPU. Chrome opens pretty quickly, but Firefox still takes several times as long to launch. LibreOffice still takes a long time to install or open, though appreciably less time than on HDD.
It all depends on the use. No storage upgrade is going to make your Internet connection faster, or allow your computer to play 1080p video if it doesn't have the GPU decoder or CPU power for it. If you upgrade to an SSD, you'll see some improvement, but you'll get the most benefit if your other hardware is still adequate and you're mostly waiting on the HDD. To determine whether that's so, you really should be doing measurements.
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My thanks to you and the AC above.
Both those Wikipedia pages linked to this benchmark, that showed Dm-cache is another option that gives very good performance in write-back caching mode (adequate for most desktop machines),
Yeah. Where will you ever come up with that $16?
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As a web developer we are designing for variable width pages still. Just not for anything that skinny. I use 1280 x 768 as a minimum size. Is that a real size? No. But using that minimum width gets you 1280 x 1024 users and that minimum height gets you 1366 x 768 users. And then we scale up from there. There aren't enough people using lower resolutions to care about and designing something that is usable in that small of a space is more of a hassle than designing in the larger space as a minimum.
Seriously why is this news ? SSD was popularized years ago and the effects are dramatic on any installation. Articles fail to mention Seagate SSHD, hybrid drives which mix the best of both worlds.
"maxing out your RAM" is certainly a waste of power and is never the first thing you do. Always benchmark, then decide what needs upgrading. Cheap desktops nowadays skimp on the HDD, so this is a likely upgrade path first, not second.
I go to TomsHardware if I want hardware banter. sheesh.
Most computers are fine on 4-8 GB of RAM. The processing slowdowns come from the HD. If you are looking for recommendations, I recommend the EVO 840 Series from Samsung. Great speed, fantastic tools to move and config your drive, and price competitive. Yes, you can do cheaper but I prefer not too. Right now you can grab a Evo 840 Series - 500GB for $270.00. I own three of these beasts (2 500GB, 1 TB). My wife was complaining about 3 year old laptop performance and I agreed. Swapped the drive and BOOM, no more problems. She is happy with her computer again and we didn't have to buy a new laptop. Sure, its possible you can get at low priced 120GB drive and start moving things around to make it work but for a little extra cheddar just keep it all on one drive and save yourself the pain.
Well, I'm glad that someone's out there talking about it, but here on /. it really is preaching to the choir.
That being said, I'd love to see this video get sent out to the masses of people on some major news channels. Getting a couple million more people interested in upgrading and modding their own computer would do wonders for increasing the interest of computer parts manufacturers in catering to the upgrade/modding community.
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In 2010, I bought a 120 GB SSD for my aging Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 desktop "gaming machine". 120 GB is well enough for Windows, and even a couple of games (I have a separate RAID5 for everything else and the kitchen sink), and although I can't play recent games in super-duper-high resolutions (I would need a total upgrade for that), the fact is that I've postponed my 4-year-cyle-full-desktop upgrade indefinitely. I don't game as much as I used to, and the computer feels extremely responsive, specially for a 6 year old machine.
I've been evangelizing everyone about the "magical powers" of SSDs ever since, and I firmly believe that it is the single component that will cause the greatest impact on the machine performance, hands down.
So if you still have any doubts about the 120 GB SSD making any difference on a "old" machine, rest assured, it will make a *lot* of difference.
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Uh, I didn't say I couldn't. It's about the principle. I'm waiting for $49, and I will not buy until it hits that price.
People have been doing this for years, and what's with the video? this isn't youtube...
I've got better things to do tonight than die.
Actually... I found 4 drive slots in a Sager NP8255-S with 2 x 2.5" (spinning or ssd), and 2 x msata (ssd only). :-) ).
:-) ).
(And... if one drops the optical drive for a sata caddy then it should handle 5 drives.)
I looked long and hard for laptops that could handle more than 2 drives; they're kind of rare these days.
I'm finding raid-0 (multiple SSD's) to be pretty peppy (yeah, I back up early and often
Also, being able to go up to 32gb of ram is kind of nice.
I've been pleased with it thus far (going into month #4 now).
Looks like that exact model isn't in production now, but this will get you close: NP8258.
Anyway, most laptops (and essentially *all* ultrabooks) are single drive machines; which works perfectly fine for probably 95% of laptop users. I realize I'm an edge case (in more ways than one
the os only boots once a day.. or week or.. so speed improvements there are cosmetic. Nobody is going to notice the time it takes to load a small driver or other OS file during the day whether it is ssd or hdd.
Even some of the piggy programs like firefox or xyzOffice - how often do people close them once they are open?
Outside of special users who regularly load and save very large files throughout the day the SSD "boost" ain't all that its cracked up to be.
Meanwhile, new PCs are dirt cheap and available from about $350 on up to insane Apple prices. Latest CPUs. Latests buses. Latest RAM. Frankly the biggest problem I have is Firefox or similar getting pokey when it starts shuffling around 1GB of in use RAM (even though much more is available).
With the prices of SSD's it is a no brainer.
Unfortunately no brainer describes a lot of managers.
In the good ole days that's where hard drive prices started! You kids and your cheap computers. Well cheap in both senses. Our stuff still runs today. Yours will break in 3 months so you must buy a new one...
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And none of those solutions are quite ready for prime time, unless you set them up at the same time you setup your machine and you don't need to cache multiple file systems...
(I think they're on the right track, but there are a lot of gotchas and "oh, you can't do that" cases with those solutions.)
Wolde you bothe eate your cake, and have your cake?
For any professional I would say that below 500GB and there will be trouble. The key is that there is a nice list of software(beyond the obvious) that really benefits from an SSD and one of the worst hogs would be Virtual Machines. These piggies really benefit from an SSD as well as lots of RAM; plus VMs will eat up gobs of HD space as well with those gobs growing in 10+GB spurts.
I keep my desktop as clean as is possible and presently am using around 200GB. I could easily use another 100GB over the next month or so. Then I have an external drive with all the goodies such as downloaded lectures and whatnot for later viewing. So a 256GB SSD would be a disaster whereas a 500GB would leave me with some breathing room.
But with Costco having a 4GB drive available for $120 I can't see external storage as being much of an issue for most people.
If you clone your drive, isn't that copyright infringement? Or is it stealing? I can't remember...
>authorization from "installing too much" was Apple to activate iTunes.
I've never had to call Apple for that. Just "Deauthorize all computers" to wipe out the non-functional, no longer owned, temporarily installed, whatever iTunes instances, and then reauthorize my current machines.
Much faster than the times (admittedly small handful) I've had to call Microsoft and then deal with their automatic phone system to get activation codes.
I shit my pants. I hope you all die after you get run over by a horny duck.
I often keep a dozen or more windows open on my web browsers. Doing that, and a couple more things, you can sometimes break 4GB RAM -- and that's using Linux.
For Windows 8 users, you need a couple of Gig just to get the machine off of the ground. more than 4 is needed to do almost anything more than stare at a blank screen.
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Lucky you. I've spent a few nights on the phone with someone in...India? explaining why I need to reauthorize Windows. It seemed to be the video card swaps that triggered it. That was on an absolutely legal, purchased, full version of Windows XP. Windows 7 has proven much more forgiving although a recent motherboard swap did "deauthorize me".
I was surprised at the difference in responsiveness between 8 GB and 16 GB even for dumb consumer stuff. Disk cache makes a difference.
read up on them. depending on workload, even a slow ssd that runs the same throughput as a hard drive will improve performance when under load.
modern OS uses disk cache. more ram is more cache. yes, i've gone from 8-16 GB and it does make a difference even in light usage due to more stuff living in cache.
Neither did mine. Ok, I lied, it did. But only once. Then I moved to using windows loader so I don'tr have to care about microsofts stupidity.
"Obviously, the first performance enhancement you do on any computer you own is max out the RAM. RAM has gotten cheap"
Wrong on both accounts.
The first performance enhancement you do on any computer is an SSD.
RAM has gotten more expensive in the last couple of years.
"SSDs are NOT a good thing. They are smaller than normal drives for MUCH greater cost/GB, and they fail just as fucking much as normal HDDs anyway."
My experience has been that SSDs fail MUCH more frequently than HDDs. What's worse, when they do fail, they usually fail catastrophically with no practical or affordable way to retrieve your data.
SSDs DO have an enormous performance benefit in random read/write operations, but the risk just isn't worth it IMHO. I do have several machines with SSDs in them for that benefit, but they all do an incremental backup daily to my server, and I don't keep any data on them. Not even pictures of my cat.
SSDs are great but some vendors are experiencing a very low MTBF rating in some of their products. If you are going to rely on one for your system then I'd spend a few minutes comparing reported failure rates among your selected choices for an SSD vendor & the specific product you have in mind. Some of these SSDs are failing at a higher rate than even the mechanically based spinning platter drives.
I have a new laptop with an SSD boot drive, which does tend to get shut down more frequently than my desktop. With boot time of only a couple of seconds, I basically don't have t worry about it. Actually installing the OS took less than a minute. Most applications pop open almost instantly. A friend with an old Mac Pro decided to not get a new one after putting in an SSD. I was skeptical before I got one, now I'm convinced. I'm even thinking of retrofitting my old iMac, though it will be a bit of a chore.
For linux users, just use bcache to configure an SSD as a front-end cache for the existing drive. No need to move any files. Any data that gets accessed repeatedly will end up on the SSD, and all disk access transparently checks there first. The SSD only needs to be as large as the amount of data that you repeatedly read, ie a 64GB SSD will probably be more than enough.
All this talk about splitting data between the HDD and SSD Apple's Fusion Drive is a great solution for such hybridization. It fuses the two physical drives into a single logical block device, tracks data access on a *block* level (not even file level) and makes sure that the oft-accessed blocks are migrated onto the SSD. The filesystem just sees one logical volume with the combined capacity of the two drives. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusion_Drive
"the first performance enhancement you do on any computer you own is max out the RAM."
Sure maybe on my computer, but on any one elses (basically anyone who needs to be told that an SSD can improve their computers performance) I generally start with a re-image to improve performance. It's amazing what a fresh copy of the OS not infected with malware, and various assorted applications from yesteryear can do.
WTF is this article doing on Slashdot? How detached from their target-audience can staff get?
Although uid-less, I have been a faithful reader of Slashdot for more than a decade now. I am simply shocked to see this article posted here. It's almost an insult to the readers. This has to be an all-time low and it certainly shows me how delusional I was in believing Slashdot was not racing to its grave under the Dice-reign. Heck, I even kind of forgave them the beta-idiocy.
In my mind Dice management has just earned a lifelong banishment to the same manager-cesspool where Commodore management lives. And, I know, on that day not a single Dice-fsck was given ... thx for burying an icon, Dice.
Years ago I built a computer with all the right ingredients, an SSD, a good graphics card and CPU, enough fans to aerate a 747, etc. I made one major mistake. When prompted by the Windows 7 installer whether I wanted 32 or 64 bit operating system, I chose 32. I have a lot of legacy software (most importantly an old version of Photoshop) that I was worried would not work on a 64-bit OS.
That one decision has severely limited my computer. Most noticeably, it caps my RAM at 4 GB. The SSD drive has helped by providing swap space.
How can I undo this? All I can think of is to cleanse the drive and reinstall -- a hell of a hassle.
(Don't advise me to change to Linux, I have too much Windows software on this PC. I have a separate Linux machine.)
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I simply need 1 TB just to keep all my data, videodata, apps, and music, with BootCamp at hand ready for gaming (yes, framerate IS higher under Windows). 128 GB SSD is just not going to cut it in any way I'd like think of. And in no way I would ever go and splurge 500 hard-earned smackers for 1 TB-sized SSD when I can have platter HDD for 70 smackaroos or a hybrid one for 120 buckaroos (which I find surprisingly fast compared to my 2012-issue HDD).
A small SSD main HD and a platter storage disc? You DO know where the OS is automatically going to select for the swapfile, right? And here's a definition of a lousy day.. using an SSD for the increased performance and having a swapfile on an old style harddisk! I think manual configuration is in order there, wot?
If you've a spare 3.5 slot then consider investing in a Silverstone hddboost plus the largest ssd you can afford. Then make sure you keep the drive optimised with all system files to the start of the drive.
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More RAM?????!!!
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Now PROVE YOUR FALSE ACCUSATION above: Show me a quote OR POST of me posting off topic on hosts where they did NOT apply... go for it!
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You avoided backing up your accusation where YOU said I say you are Barbara, not Barbie = TomHudson (same person http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... , & sockpuppeteer like you) -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p...
Funny you can't back up your "bluster" there either, lol...
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Why, Lastly?
You're crackers! See here multiple personality disorder http://slashdot.org/comments.p... + manic depression http://slashdot.org/comments.p...
APK
P.S.=> So, THIS quote below is my policy on sockpuppeteers like you Zontar = TrollingForHostsFiles (your sockpuppetry):
"The only way to a achieve peace, is thru the ELIMINATION of those who would perpetuate war (sockpuppet masters like YOU, troll -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... ). THIS IS MY PROGRAMMING -> http://start64.com/index.php?o... & soon, I will be UNSTOPPABLE..." - Ultron 6 FROM -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...
Which quite obviously, I am, since none of you DOLTISH TROLLS are able to validly technically disprove my points on hosts enumerated in the link to my program above of how hosts give users of them more speed, security, reliability, & anonymity... period!
(Trolls like YOU that use sockpuppets http://slashdot.org/comments.p... (your sockpuppet "alterego" TrollingForHostsFiles) & TomHudson - Barbara, not Barbie too http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... before you)
... apk
"You barge into discussions with your off-topic hosts file nonsense" - by Zontar The Mindless (9002) on Friday April 11, 2014 @09:51PM (#46731153) FROM -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p...
You said my "APK Hosts File Engine" is a virus/malware http://slashdot.org/comments.p... but it's EASILY PROVABLE it's not, right there in that link too.
Now PROVE YOUR FALSE ACCUSATION above: Show me a quote OR POST of me posting off topic on hosts where they did NOT apply... go for it!
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You avoided backing up your accusation where YOU said I say you are Barbara, not Barbie = TomHudson (same person http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... , & sockpuppeteer like you) -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p...
Funny you can't back up your "bluster" there either, lol...
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Why, Lastly?
You're crackers! See here multiple personality disorder http://slashdot.org/comments.p... + manic depression http://slashdot.org/comments.p...
APK
P.S.=> So, THIS quote below is my policy on sockpuppeteers like you Zontar = TrollingForHostsFiles (your sockpuppetry):
"The only way to a achieve peace, is thru the ELIMINATION of those who would perpetuate war (sockpuppet masters like YOU, troll -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... ). THIS IS MY PROGRAMMING -> http://start64.com/index.php?o... & soon, I will be UNSTOPPABLE..." - Ultron 6 FROM -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...
Which quite obviously, I am, since none of you DOLTISH TROLLS are able to validly technically disprove my points on hosts enumerated in the link to my program above of how hosts give users of them more speed, security, reliability, & anonymity... period!
(Trolls like YOU that use sockpuppets http://slashdot.org/comments.p... (your sockpuppet "alterego" TrollingForHostsFiles) & TomHudson - Barbara, not Barbie too http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... before you)
... apk
"You barge into discussions with your off-topic hosts file nonsense" - by Zontar The Mindless (9002) on Friday April 11, 2014 @09:51PM (#46731153) FROM -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p...
You said my "APK Hosts File Engine" is a virus/malware http://slashdot.org/comments.p... but it's EASILY PROVABLE it's not, right there in that link too.
Now PROVE YOUR FALSE ACCUSATION above: Show me a quote OR POST of me posting off topic on hosts where they did NOT apply... go for it!
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You avoided backing up your accusation where YOU said I say you are Barbara, not Barbie = TomHudson (same person http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... , & sockpuppeteer like you) -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p...
Funny you can't back up your "bluster" there either, lol...
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Why, Lastly?
You're crackers! See here multiple personality disorder http://slashdot.org/comments.p... + manic depression http://slashdot.org/comments.p...
APK
P.S.=> So, THIS quote below is my policy on sockpuppeteers like you Zontar = TrollingForHostsFiles (your sockpuppetry):
"The only way to a achieve peace, is thru the ELIMINATION of those who would perpetuate war (sockpuppet masters like YOU, troll -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... ). THIS IS MY PROGRAMMING -> http://start64.com/index.php?o... & soon, I will be UNSTOPPABLE..." - Ultron 6 FROM -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...
Which quite obviously, I am, since none of you DOLTISH TROLLS are able to validly technically disprove my points on hosts enumerated in the link to my program above of how hosts give users of them more speed, security, reliability, & anonymity... period!
(Trolls like YOU that use sockpuppets http://slashdot.org/comments.p... (your sockpuppet "alterego" TrollingForHostsFiles) & TomHudson - Barbara, not Barbie too http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... before you)
... apkYou said my "APK Hosts File Engine" is a virus/malware
"You barge into discussions with your off-topic hosts file nonsense" - by Zontar The Mindless (9002) on Friday April 11, 2014 @09:51PM (#46731153) FROM -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p...
You said my "APK Hosts File Engine" is a virus/malware http://slashdot.org/comments.p... but it's EASILY PROVABLE it's not, right there in that link too.
Now PROVE YOUR FALSE ACCUSATION above: Show me a quote OR POST of me posting off topic on hosts where they did NOT apply... go for it!
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You avoided backing up your accusation where YOU said I say you are Barbara, not Barbie = TomHudson (same person http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... , & sockpuppeteer like you) -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p...
Funny you can't back up your "bluster" there either, lol...
---
Why, Lastly?
You're crackers! See here multiple personality disorder http://slashdot.org/comments.p... + manic depression http://slashdot.org/comments.p...
APK
P.S.=> So, THIS quote below is my policy on sockpuppeteers like you Zontar = TrollingForHostsFiles (your sockpuppetry):
"The only way to a achieve peace, is thru the ELIMINATION of those who would perpetuate war (sockpuppet masters like YOU, troll -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... ). THIS IS MY PROGRAMMING -> http://start64.com/index.php?o... & soon, I will be UNSTOPPABLE..." - Ultron 6 FROM -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...
Which quite obviously, I am, since none of you DOLTISH TROLLS are able to validly technically disprove my points on hosts enumerated in the link to my program above of how hosts give users of them more speed, security, reliability, & anonymity... period!
(Trolls like YOU that use sockpuppets http://slashdot.org/comments.p... (your sockpuppet "alterego" TrollingForHostsFiles) & TomHudson - Barbara, not Barbie too http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... before you)
... apk