Why are you acting willfully ignorant on this. I know your not stupid yetif I remember our last conversation, you did just the same. Perhaps you finally broke down or something. I completely answered your questions in my last post. I even started by asking you to clarify if I was reading your comment the wrong way and yet you sit here acting like you never read the comment at all. BTW, I didn't accuse those activist of anything, the court that convicted them did. I'm just following the known facts which you seem to not want to pay attention to. AS for the two examples you gave, I already answered that you do no respond with violence unless it is an act of your government and you joined the military, or if it is in the preservation of innocent life. And no, animal life isn't worth the same as human life.
you are being emotional. let go of your emotions and think with reason.
and again, it may not seem to your liking but, the only ones who are telling humans are worth more than any animal, are humans themselves. there is nothing in neither laws of physics, or laws of nature, or mathematics that says any human is worth more than any other living entity.
In short yes with the acceptation of letting them kill anyone who disagrees.I already made that clear. You cannot go around killing and assaulting anyone you don't agree with. I doesn't matter if they think you are a lesser being or not. Some people think anyone who doesn't make as much money as they do are lesser beings. Is that reason enough to kill them? I also noticed that you read what I wrote well enough to paste it and fabricate some sort of response to it but you failed to take any meaning from it.
aaaah. lad, you are not given any choice by them. islamist didnt provide any choices to any other view holders in iran in 1979 when revolution was over. many of the social democrats who collaborated with them in hopes of a democratic iran (they were so promised) are either STILL in jail, or already dead. what you think of other people, your caring, your compassion, love does not matter for such people. you either comply with their demands, or die. that's the gist of it.
there is no such thing as 'hey, you are a radical, extremist political view. you are now in the majority. im allowing you to do anything you want to do under human rights principles and freedom of speech, but i wont let you kill anyone who disagrees'.
you are not the person to dictate anything at that point. if you do that, you are killed or locked up for good, and its over.
there wasnt a civil war in iran. there was a civil unrest. at the time preceding humaini's return, sheiks ran into military bases with crowds, held koran's against the faces of soldiers and officiers. a little number of them responded and resisted. they were dealt with immediately, on the spot.
and again, you know little about what you speak of. the exact 'freedom of speech' thing had been going in germany prior to ascension of nazi. at the point nazis had sufficient power, they have started killing anyone, not jews only, that stood against them. in the night of long knives, they even killed their former SA comrades by raiding their homes and stabbing them en masse, because they were now deemed unworthy by the party. even before that point, no person had the privilege of coming up and saying 'i dont approve any of these', for, due to the stupidity of letting them run around and multiply, everything was lost.
it wasnt a military matter. it was a lesson in wisdom.
The KKK is a group that acted as you claimed. Despite constitutional amendments, their influence created tom crow laws and repressed the blacks until they peacefully protested. At that time, look at what a bunch of back woods niggers can accomplish, They took the scenario you described where everyone was against them, they fought it in the courts, congress passed laws and bam, we now have a black president of the United St
microsoft doesnt have any special laws written against them to prevent them from 'competing' in eu. they are being tried for antitrust laws which apply to every business entity. the 'competing' in the preceding sentence is in quotes, because what microsoft does is not competing. they are convicted monopolists and foulplayers, multiple times. many eu countries' state and governments are already on linux... hence the title of this comment.
you are fixated. but also you are in conflicting waters.
you accused those activists of physically assaulting other people, instead of peacefully protesting. that was your basis of verdict. in return i asked you where does the peaceful protesting stop, and the need for physical action begins, and gave 2 examples.
i will stay on this for now, for it is the core of the matter. i will respond to your does animal equal human fixation later.
For the rest of your post, yes, that is something that should be peacefully protested against unless they are killing Humans. Then it becomes a moral obligation to do everything possible to stop that act. Generally, law enforcement efforts will capture and penalize those responsible, if that doesn't work, then the government declares a war on them and you would join an army and stop it that way. You picking up a gun and killing someone for what they believe in, no matter how horrid it might be, is not the way. You picking up a pipe and beating someone for what they believe in no matter how horrid it might be is not the way. Now, you doing either to save someone's life is acceptable because we always place the preservation of human life over the unlawful or unjust destruction of it.
so, you are going to peacefully protest against the spread of an ideology/religion/religious ideology that seeks to abolish freedoms, kill anyone who doesnt agree, and sees any means justifiable to that end ?
"until they kill humans"
well, they wont kill humans until they are in strong majority, have the control of the parliament, the control of police or military, or all of them or the most pivotal of them. just like nazis did back then, just like islamists did in iran just 30 years ago. by that time, there wont be any police, government, military, judiciary left to prosecute them if they started killing anyone, for, those will be the tools they use to kill people in the first place anyway.
therefore your solution in this case is peacefully protest them until you can no longer best them physically even. so, let be until all is already lost ? up until that point, spread of that extremist view is protected under freedom of speech and thought ?
see the tangible immense contradiction there ? if you cant, try a bit, there is.
as for your fixation about does human equal an animal, here is a fresh, objective, even an alien's perspective - as far as evolution, physics, any kind of natural laws are concerned, a human totally equals an animal. all concepts to the opposite are the invention of humans, ranging from religion to other more modern viewpoints. in the eyes of nature, universe, even an alien, you are no different in a position than any other animal on the planet. you are just more powerful, and are dictating your own terms. therefore the feeling/belief of superiority is your own delusion/arrogance as a hominoid sapient.
those definitions were made in age where no concept of 'software' or 'lock-in' could ever be imagined. now there is.
any software that creates a lock-in situation for customers should be accepted as a scaled monopoly, and antitrust laws should apply.
monopoly is a lack of choice. virtually, or practically. the fact that you can choose to renovate your entire i.t. infrastructure by spending half of your company's assets in some occasions, and even totally reeducate workforce or fire & recruit the i.t. staff from scratch does not make it any more so that you actually have a choice.
at the time a 486 might have been overclocked to 500 mhz, it would have been a great deal. more precisely, at the time anything has been overclocked to phenomenonal mhz, it has been a great deal AT THAT TIME.
there is nothing to get amazed. KDE, Gnome any other distro that bundles a single browser to their product will probably be asked to bundle more.
this is not an 'equality' matter. this is a matter of monopoly. microsoft is almost a practical monopoly in the market. therefore, anittrust laws apply to it. if linux had the same place, and had a virtual monopoly, they would go after it first.
antitrust laws are not fair. they are not supposed to be fair. they should not be fair. they are equalizing moves that are used to whack down on the biggest shareholder in a market if they do anything wrong, illegal, or unethical. any corporation that is vying for the top market positions has to make peace with that fact, and get its act together. microsoft didnt. it doesnt have an affinity for coherent, orderly, ethical conduct.
there were people warning against the bailouts, but they were warning against the bailout concept, like ignorant fools. they talked just like people back in 1929. "let it be". that last "let it be" awarded us with a world war in which 15 million verified people died. with nuclear weapons we couldnt afford such stupidity, again.
there was little number of people warning against the nature of bailout. had all the holistic economist morons, who wrote a letter that is signed 150 strong (economists, in name) to the president against the bailout, actually warned about the nature of bailing out and the precautions that might be taken, instead of saying 'let it be', things would have been different.
but what are you gonna do. its holistic economy. there is a free market god, and a church, with pope alan greenspan. you cant talk sense into believers.
It's you who made it a relevant question by citing Pres. Obama's use of a Blackberry as somehow indicative of his understanding of technical issues.
no sir, you made that out of your shiny butt. what i said, repeatedly, as you are insisting to miss, using blackberry is an undeniable sign of people that belong to the digital age. when that's about a PRESIDENT of a major country, its even more telling. of 'the change'. and again, your various prejudices against the blackberry apparatus does not demean it in any way and lessen its importance as a major technical tool of the century. its like despising volkswagen beetle in 60s ffs.
excuse me pal, but if someone is unable to tell apart obvious and unobvious signs of vandalism in a subject s/he is interested in, they should not be on the internet, talking anyway.
and as to 'why not', i cant limit my freedom of information to a narrow window that sits in between the new edition of an article and a 'trusted editor's 'cleaning up' of it.
i dont want editors. that's 19th century. if they want, they can start a fork of wikipedia with information taken from it, but by implementing their victorian information strangling.
for there is nothing to explain. you are way too immersed in your opinion, and therefore cant leave the particular perspective of the animal rights-activism issue.
that analogy was based on pure logic.
think.
where does the 'peaceful protesting' obligation end, and the necessity for physical/armed action begin ? when does it begin ?
should the revolutionaries in 1774 have instead protested peacefully and tried to achieve their ends that way ? or, should the dissenters in french revolutionary period not take up arms, and protested peacefully ? what would the world you live in today be like, if they had done that ?
today's analogies :
there are neonazis who think that jews should be burned. there are a lot of islamist groups that everyone should be muslim, and those who are not should either be killed or put under yoke. a goodly number of them believe that any means to achieve this end is justified.
they not only believe those. they actively recruit people to their cause, seek funding, do whatever necessary. all the while using the liberties of the more liberal regimes they live under.
they are not mounting an armed revolution. they are not kidnapping or beheading anyone. yet. but they are increasing their numbers arithmetically.
with your logic, this is something that should be peacefully protested against, and within the limits of personal liberties.
im a wikipedia reader. i read it, i use it as an easy link to present evidence in discussions, debates, and conveying info to friends. linking it.
if we stop doing that, the 'in crowd' in wikipedia can edit each other as much as they want, in their closed 'in' circles, all by themselves. as i so elaborately and eloquently put it ; they can shove it up their butt.
i dont want it. if i wanted another britannica, or larousse, i wouldnt use wikipedia.
a group of dimwitted morons can propose it. but if anyone actually puts in motion, they can shove wikipedia in their butt - im sure an alternative will come up.
ANYthing you pay to any private telco company, will be pocketed. pockets will be so deep that you wont be even finding a nickel when you plunge your hand in. Remember how did the money given to banks vanished just 1-2 months ago ?
well. these are telcos. they have numerous times tried to scam/suffocate public in terms of cash and choices and even freedom of information before.
it would be stupid, stupid to trust them with anything.
excuse me, its a stupid question in its relevance.
there is a generation gap starting with people born in 1960s and the former born generations. former born generations seem like they almost exclusively belong to an age long past, the days and culture of the world in between 1940-1950. many of them even dont get along well with the social/civil rights world rediscovered in 1960s. except a very very minor percentage, not a percentage even, of people who are actually timeless people, forever staying young, in heart, and many times even in physiology. but these are minority, not even worth mentioning. for the majority, generation gap exists.
no surprise, these generations also are the ones who are ruling the world, both in politics and business due to their age. you wont find many blackberry users in the world of ceos still, leave aside leaders or ruling parties of the world.
obama represents our generations' first encroachment into the top of the world, someone from our generation group, regardless of you were born in 1960, or 1980. just as generations prior to 1960 had a kind of common coherency and uniformness in character, our generations also do have it. we are different. not because we want to feel different, we are. there are little number of bridges that connects us to earlier generations, and generally these are kinship, parental connections or similar.
blackberry is one of our insignias. there are many, ranging from video games to habits. yet, blackberry is one.
it doesnt matter whether you see blackberry as a 'less technical thing, therefore moot'. there would be many people who would deem what you see technical and requiring technical aptitude, as moot. the reality is, compared to the past generations from whom we are taking over the world, blackberry is alien technology. and, whether you like it or not, it is an integral part of modern, connected, online lifestyle, and no amount of belittling by you or other elitists will demean its importance.
to people who are of 2 earlier generations, blackberry is a thingamajig that is little more than a toy. a microwave cooks, refrigerator keeps food. what blackberry when you have your good ol landline....
the fact that blackberry became an everyday item in THIS generation does not mean that its less technological. its still from mars to many people. ESPECIALLY people are of that generation which is ruling the world now.
blackberry is the ability to use a modern tool to stay in constant connectivity with other people. be it work be it family be it friends. regardless. it is unmatched, unparalelled communications compared to just 30 years ago even. leave that aside, maybe 20. it IS technology. doesnt matter what you use it for.
first, it is sure that their children will want it. leave that aside, in every country governments and corporations are moving most of the services online. even news, media too. there will come a time when broadband internet connectivity will be a necessity for many things. better to make preparations for the day to come than sit back and relax.
you cant define 'tech' like that and oust blackberry as you wish. its an important piece of tech. also you cant link 'idiocy' to 'blackberry' ffs. what kind of shitty relevance establishing is that.
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Why are you acting willfully ignorant on this. I know your not stupid yetif I remember our last conversation, you did just the same. Perhaps you finally broke down or something. I completely answered your questions in my last post. I even started by asking you to clarify if I was reading your comment the wrong way and yet you sit here acting like you never read the comment at all. BTW, I didn't accuse those activist of anything, the court that convicted them did. I'm just following the known facts which you seem to not want to pay attention to. AS for the two examples you gave, I already answered that you do no respond with violence unless it is an act of your government and you joined the military, or if it is in the preservation of innocent life. And no, animal life isn't worth the same as human life.
you are being emotional. let go of your emotions and think with reason.
and again, it may not seem to your liking but, the only ones who are telling humans are worth more than any animal, are humans themselves. there is nothing in neither laws of physics, or laws of nature, or mathematics that says any human is worth more than any other living entity.
In short yes with the acceptation of letting them kill anyone who disagrees.I already made that clear. You cannot go around killing and assaulting anyone you don't agree with. I doesn't matter if they think you are a lesser being or not. Some people think anyone who doesn't make as much money as they do are lesser beings. Is that reason enough to kill them? I also noticed that you read what I wrote well enough to paste it and fabricate some sort of response to it but you failed to take any meaning from it.
aaaah. lad, you are not given any choice by them. islamist didnt provide any choices to any other view holders in iran in 1979 when revolution was over. many of the social democrats who collaborated with them in hopes of a democratic iran (they were so promised) are either STILL in jail, or already dead. what you think of other people, your caring, your compassion, love does not matter for such people. you either comply with their demands, or die. that's the gist of it.
there is no such thing as 'hey, you are a radical, extremist political view. you are now in the majority. im allowing you to do anything you want to do under human rights principles and freedom of speech, but i wont let you kill anyone who disagrees'.
you are not the person to dictate anything at that point. if you do that, you are killed or locked up for good, and its over.
there wasnt a civil war in iran. there was a civil unrest. at the time preceding humaini's return, sheiks ran into military bases with crowds, held koran's against the faces of soldiers and officiers. a little number of them responded and resisted. they were dealt with immediately, on the spot.
and again, you know little about what you speak of. the exact 'freedom of speech' thing had been going in germany prior to ascension of nazi. at the point nazis had sufficient power, they have started killing anyone, not jews only, that stood against them. in the night of long knives, they even killed their former SA comrades by raiding their homes and stabbing them en masse, because they were now deemed unworthy by the party. even before that point, no person had the privilege of coming up and saying 'i dont approve any of these', for, due to the stupidity of letting them run around and multiply, everything was lost.
it wasnt a military matter. it was a lesson in wisdom.
The KKK is a group that acted as you claimed. Despite constitutional amendments, their influence created tom crow laws and repressed the blacks until they peacefully protested. At that time, look at what a bunch of back woods niggers can accomplish, They took the scenario you described where everyone was against them, they fought it in the courts, congress passed laws and bam, we now have a black president of the United St
microsoft doesnt have any special laws written against them to prevent them from 'competing' in eu. they are being tried for antitrust laws which apply to every business entity. the 'competing' in the preceding sentence is in quotes, because what microsoft does is not competing. they are convicted monopolists and foulplayers, multiple times. many eu countries' state and governments are already on linux ... hence the title of this comment.
you are fixated. but also you are in conflicting waters.
you accused those activists of physically assaulting other people, instead of peacefully protesting. that was your basis of verdict. in return i asked you where does the peaceful protesting stop, and the need for physical action begins, and gave 2 examples.
i will stay on this for now, for it is the core of the matter. i will respond to your does animal equal human fixation later.
For the rest of your post, yes, that is something that should be peacefully protested against unless they are killing Humans. Then it becomes a moral obligation to do everything possible to stop that act. Generally, law enforcement efforts will capture and penalize those responsible, if that doesn't work, then the government declares a war on them and you would join an army and stop it that way. You picking up a gun and killing someone for what they believe in, no matter how horrid it might be, is not the way. You picking up a pipe and beating someone for what they believe in no matter how horrid it might be is not the way. Now, you doing either to save someone's life is acceptable because we always place the preservation of human life over the unlawful or unjust destruction of it.
so, you are going to peacefully protest against the spread of an ideology/religion/religious ideology that seeks to abolish freedoms, kill anyone who doesnt agree, and sees any means justifiable to that end ?
"until they kill humans"
well, they wont kill humans until they are in strong majority, have the control of the parliament, the control of police or military, or all of them or the most pivotal of them. just like nazis did back then, just like islamists did in iran just 30 years ago. by that time, there wont be any police, government, military, judiciary left to prosecute them if they started killing anyone, for, those will be the tools they use to kill people in the first place anyway.
therefore your solution in this case is peacefully protest them until you can no longer best them physically even. so, let be until all is already lost ? up until that point, spread of that extremist view is protected under freedom of speech and thought ?
see the tangible immense contradiction there ? if you cant, try a bit, there is.
as for your fixation about does human equal an animal, here is a fresh, objective, even an alien's perspective - as far as evolution, physics, any kind of natural laws are concerned, a human totally equals an animal. all concepts to the opposite are the invention of humans, ranging from religion to other more modern viewpoints. in the eyes of nature, universe, even an alien, you are no different in a position than any other animal on the planet. you are just more powerful, and are dictating your own terms. therefore the feeling/belief of superiority is your own delusion/arrogance as a hominoid sapient.
those definitions were made in age where no concept of 'software' or 'lock-in' could ever be imagined. now there is.
any software that creates a lock-in situation for customers should be accepted as a scaled monopoly, and antitrust laws should apply.
monopoly is a lack of choice. virtually, or practically. the fact that you can choose to renovate your entire i.t. infrastructure by spending half of your company's assets in some occasions, and even totally reeducate workforce or fire & recruit the i.t. staff from scratch does not make it any more so that you actually have a choice.
at the time a 486 might have been overclocked to 500 mhz, it would have been a great deal. more precisely, at the time anything has been overclocked to phenomenonal mhz, it has been a great deal AT THAT TIME.
there is nothing to get amazed. KDE, Gnome any other distro that bundles a single browser to their product will probably be asked to bundle more.
this is not an 'equality' matter. this is a matter of monopoly. microsoft is almost a practical monopoly in the market. therefore, anittrust laws apply to it. if linux had the same place, and had a virtual monopoly, they would go after it first.
antitrust laws are not fair. they are not supposed to be fair. they should not be fair. they are equalizing moves that are used to whack down on the biggest shareholder in a market if they do anything wrong, illegal, or unethical. any corporation that is vying for the top market positions has to make peace with that fact, and get its act together. microsoft didnt. it doesnt have an affinity for coherent, orderly, ethical conduct.
as in ?
there were people warning against the bailouts, but they were warning against the bailout concept, like ignorant fools. they talked just like people back in 1929. "let it be". that last "let it be" awarded us with a world war in which 15 million verified people died. with nuclear weapons we couldnt afford such stupidity, again.
there was little number of people warning against the nature of bailout. had all the holistic economist morons, who wrote a letter that is signed 150 strong (economists, in name) to the president against the bailout, actually warned about the nature of bailing out and the precautions that might be taken, instead of saying 'let it be', things would have been different.
but what are you gonna do. its holistic economy. there is a free market god, and a church, with pope alan greenspan. you cant talk sense into believers.
It's you who made it a relevant question by citing Pres. Obama's use of a Blackberry as somehow indicative of his understanding of technical issues.
no sir, you made that out of your shiny butt. what i said, repeatedly, as you are insisting to miss, using blackberry is an undeniable sign of people that belong to the digital age. when that's about a PRESIDENT of a major country, its even more telling. of 'the change'. and again, your various prejudices against the blackberry apparatus does not demean it in any way and lessen its importance as a major technical tool of the century. its like despising volkswagen beetle in 60s ffs.
excuse me pal, but if someone is unable to tell apart obvious and unobvious signs of vandalism in a subject s/he is interested in, they should not be on the internet, talking anyway.
and as to 'why not', i cant limit my freedom of information to a narrow window that sits in between the new edition of an article and a 'trusted editor's 'cleaning up' of it.
i dont want editors. that's 19th century. if they want, they can start a fork of wikipedia with information taken from it, but by implementing their victorian information strangling.
for there is nothing to explain. you are way too immersed in your opinion, and therefore cant leave the particular perspective of the animal rights-activism issue.
that analogy was based on pure logic.
think.
where does the 'peaceful protesting' obligation end, and the necessity for physical/armed action begin ? when does it begin ?
should the revolutionaries in 1774 have instead protested peacefully and tried to achieve their ends that way ? or, should the dissenters in french revolutionary period not take up arms, and protested peacefully ? what would the world you live in today be like, if they had done that ?
today's analogies :
there are neonazis who think that jews should be burned. there are a lot of islamist groups that everyone should be muslim, and those who are not should either be killed or put under yoke. a goodly number of them believe that any means to achieve this end is justified.
they not only believe those. they actively recruit people to their cause, seek funding, do whatever necessary. all the while using the liberties of the more liberal regimes they live under.
they are not mounting an armed revolution. they are not kidnapping or beheading anyone. yet. but they are increasing their numbers arithmetically.
with your logic, this is something that should be peacefully protested against, and within the limits of personal liberties.
but is it ?
"Whether you believe killing jews is right or wrong, that is not the way to go about protesting it."
how does that sound ?
that kind of thing pushes customers away.
i remember first half was dispatched to 'get the credit system working' again. around 330 or 370 bn or so.
im a wikipedia reader. i read it, i use it as an easy link to present evidence in discussions, debates, and conveying info to friends. linking it.
if we stop doing that, the 'in crowd' in wikipedia can edit each other as much as they want, in their closed 'in' circles, all by themselves. as i so elaborately and eloquently put it ; they can shove it up their butt.
i dont want it. if i wanted another britannica, or larousse, i wouldnt use wikipedia.
a group of dimwitted morons can propose it. but if anyone actually puts in motion, they can shove wikipedia in their butt - im sure an alternative will come up.
if they had given it all to abba, at least we'd have some music now ...
ANYthing you pay to any private telco company, will be pocketed. pockets will be so deep that you wont be even finding a nickel when you plunge your hand in. Remember how did the money given to banks vanished just 1-2 months ago ?
well. these are telcos. they have numerous times tried to scam/suffocate public in terms of cash and choices and even freedom of information before.
it would be stupid, stupid to trust them with anything.
what ? everyone is allowed to go otaku every once in a while.
excuse me, its a stupid question in its relevance.
there is a generation gap starting with people born in 1960s and the former born generations. former born generations seem like they almost exclusively belong to an age long past, the days and culture of the world in between 1940-1950. many of them even dont get along well with the social/civil rights world rediscovered in 1960s. except a very very minor percentage, not a percentage even, of people who are actually timeless people, forever staying young, in heart, and many times even in physiology. but these are minority, not even worth mentioning. for the majority, generation gap exists.
no surprise, these generations also are the ones who are ruling the world, both in politics and business due to their age. you wont find many blackberry users in the world of ceos still, leave aside leaders or ruling parties of the world.
obama represents our generations' first encroachment into the top of the world, someone from our generation group, regardless of you were born in 1960, or 1980. just as generations prior to 1960 had a kind of common coherency and uniformness in character, our generations also do have it. we are different. not because we want to feel different, we are. there are little number of bridges that connects us to earlier generations, and generally these are kinship, parental connections or similar.
blackberry is one of our insignias. there are many, ranging from video games to habits. yet, blackberry is one.
it doesnt matter whether you see blackberry as a 'less technical thing, therefore moot'. there would be many people who would deem what you see technical and requiring technical aptitude, as moot. the reality is, compared to the past generations from whom we are taking over the world, blackberry is alien technology. and, whether you like it or not, it is an integral part of modern, connected, online lifestyle, and no amount of belittling by you or other elitists will demean its importance.
my advice to you on this is, get over it.
no. you miss the point.
to people who are of 2 earlier generations, blackberry is a thingamajig that is little more than a toy. a microwave cooks, refrigerator keeps food. what blackberry when you have your good ol landline ....
the fact that blackberry became an everyday item in THIS generation does not mean that its less technological. its still from mars to many people. ESPECIALLY people are of that generation which is ruling the world now.
blackberry is the ability to use a modern tool to stay in constant connectivity with other people. be it work be it family be it friends. regardless. it is unmatched, unparalelled communications compared to just 30 years ago even. leave that aside, maybe 20. it IS technology. doesnt matter what you use it for.
and it has no side to it to be defended.
first, it is sure that their children will want it. leave that aside, in every country governments and corporations are moving most of the services online. even news, media too. there will come a time when broadband internet connectivity will be a necessity for many things. better to make preparations for the day to come than sit back and relax.
you cant define 'tech' like that and oust blackberry as you wish. its an important piece of tech. also you cant link 'idiocy' to 'blackberry' ffs. what kind of shitty relevance establishing is that.