there is big activity in that game. lots of port fighting going on, guilds bringing in 3 deckers to port battles. making an 3 decker requires constant activity of around 80 people, a full fledged crafting industry and time, for around 1-1.5 months.
web hosting is not about 'applications'. its about customization. more than half of any serious web hosting customer will want to do something different than whats already being provided, including any app you thought was secure. one will come up and say that they want to use a particular format with their web page but cant do it with page creator. some other will say that he wants to park a domain and redirect it in a particular fashion. not even talking about stuff thats more serious, like ecommerce scripts, forum scripts and such. take oscommerce as an example - its a standard script, but no two oscommerce stores are the same.
engines, automation does not matter. there are many big hosting companies that do very extensive automation. if people are just going to put up a few pages, and not care about anything else, they work out great. but, if they are going to do something a little more serious, whooops - you need to provide support. all kinds of issues may come up.
the process of hosting a half decent website (any website that is not easily forfeitable if any problem occurs, personal resume, small business presentational, academic etc) is not something that is just as triggerhappy as the services automated google apps can handle. the support costs, if google started such a hosting, would be so immense that either google would have to offer crappy support, or pour huge monies into support. in former case the app would be a failure, in the second case the app would carry a decent price tag that wouldnt be too different from the normal web host companies. so it would all be the same.
'production costs are real' - yes, and they are divided by infinite numbers of products which are easily copyable. at pathetic cents per cd, even the medium they are written on is ridiculously low if you mass produce. if it comes to internet distribution, those costs become almost nonexistent, per item sold.
so dont talk nonsense about production costs. if you pay 1 m dollars for producing a song, and then try to lock in your price by selling 1 million copies from $30, that is a ridiculously overblown profit margin to be defended. and thats the way it is with today's big buck distribution.
yea, youre right. i shouldnt be siphoning off 100% of the remaining 1%. instead i should pay exorbitant rates to cds containing 2 useful songs next to 12 shitty ones, and feeding the existing system so we all can get exploited gloriously.
as it stands now, big buck corps are allowed to do every kind of shit little short of totally buying out parts of government. they pay bills through senate, they buy out congressmen and so on. as long as big buck corps have THAT kind of influence and that kind of lack of regulation (ie being able to force diebold voting machines to even states that refused them), you gonna have that kind of problems.
there are mega corporations that even dwarf american ones, in europe. but, regulations are good, and none of them can attempt the shit haliburton, diebold and friends did in 2000 elections in u.s.
Some people might be embarrassed to tell musicians and movie makers that they shouldn't be compensated for the work they do why did i cut your quote at some point ?
its because your quote fails exactly at that point.
musicians and movie makers have never been compensated for the work they do. musicians have been given few cents over $20 worth single album sales by the distributors, and told to go on unending world tours in order to earn money for themselves. this has been going on for aeons.
same goes for movies. directors, actors get much more cut from movie sales, but then again the lion's cut goes to people who do nothing but monopolize the distribution effectively.
we are paying zillions of dollars to people that do not generate any added value into the music/movie.
i wouldnt give a damn, if they were not also harming, damaging the ability of the creative crowd to distribute their own stuff. but situation has been so that up to today, if you havent been able to sign your soul out to a big distributor, noone knew your music, your art, your small films. but then internet came and alternative distribution became possible. good. things were going to change. but then big buck distributors started to try attempts in hampering those distribution methods, because they pose a great danger to their own monopoly - people being able to do distribution independently - holy cow, what kind of heresy.
so, this point is the point where your argument breaks down. those people not only damaging a business sector, but in general damaging the creative development of human civilization, for they have a bigger power than they are worth.
re read your post. when i took the same liberty of declaration, you have accused me of many things. you are contradicting yourself, doing the same thing and trying to pass it as something socially acceptable.
i regularly play super melee via running sc2 through dosbox. a lot of other abandonware games i have, but at night i either fire up age of conan, or super melee in star control 2 these days.
if google would lose that kind of case, they wouldnt be able to fight back the anti net neutrality law or affect the wireless spectrum auction as they were. they are not an outfit that would lose that kind of case.
we wont be able to bring down/. by posting a link to a/. article in/. no more ?
holy cow ! what the world is coming to...
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why the hell should those people disappear ? noone killed them. what have they become ? monks ? nuns ? they left tech stuff behind and started primalistic lives ? noone that is affiliated with tech can stay away from tech environments. i think those people are here, on/.
its quite ironic that after just accusing me of veiling 'my bush style non sequitur' with 'freedom', you yourself have just tried to veil your rudeness and lack of manners with your 'ability to take on criticism and move on'.
noone needs that. what people need are people with manners. maybe you should reflect on that.
as for why that post was modded down, you and i both know that the reason for it has nothing to do with the perceived rudeness of word turd, for many posts containing worse words are being modded down frequently, and the sole reason it was modded down is that that post put something everyone knew VERY bluntly, without trying to appease the 'make believe' side in the ms fanbois, and thats that.
Wow. Someone calls you an idiot, so you respond with "Idiocy is the epitome of freedom!" except written in the fashion that a slightly concussed chimp might if he had had 5 minutes to learn the English language before being cracked over the head with a spade and then handed a pen. exactly. that should impart you with the wisdom that if someone can say as such, s/he is probably a person who is firm in his character and stance. but it didnt. instead it caused you to rant using the 'l2english' card to a person whose first language is not english. what should we do to you then ? boil an egg on your head and wash with vegetable oil ?
Well done for spotting that you're free to be a moron. You may also note, however, that I too am free to comment on your abject stupidity. Can you tell me how this is relevant to you being modded down for swearing and having a terrible attitude? much better off being a moron than being a zit that insults people while debating. which happens to be you. i wont comment on your abject lack of civility, but i will comment on one thing ; you are very probably a microsoft fanboi, since you havent refrained from labeling the mere word 'turd' as swearing.
also i would like to give a heads up to you that english is not comprised of what you know in your daily life. go read some victorian era literature pieces and you'll be able to grasp more ways to use it than you are able to now.
slashdot trolls. never fail to amuse.
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subsets do not change. they left digg, and now they are in slashdot. so it goes. the original subset havent changed. set has become bigger.
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im a web developer, also a sysadmin, one of the things you call as 'all in one'. i come to slashdot for serious stuff. i laugh at many comments that are sprinkled within, true, but for relaxation and fun, i have to go to a profession forum. a SINGLE section, the 'lounge' section meets my online watercooler needs. because i dont have it on slashdot.
it would be good to have some place to chill out in slashdot. therefore i would be able to get everything related to internet and geekdom and tech and what goddamn culture we have going on the net, in one place.
i see the exaggerated reactions against this idle thing as a bit overblown. that video may or may not have place on the main page, however idle definitely should be a an accessible part of slashdot. yes. i want to see funny geeky stuff in some insert, some box or whatever here, on slashdot.
so then get a hold on yerselves and start acting sensible. propose ways in how idle thing can be made a part of slashdot and enrich whatever we have here, instead of ranting like an elitist.
hell. especially if you did the fallacy of registering your domain name with them.
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now, if a set of behaviours you are practicing now is good, the SAME set is gonna keep on being the same. you are talking about what happens when other people start adding to the set and rename the new resulting set the same. this doesnt change anything, your particular set is gonna stay the same.
there is big activity in that game. lots of port fighting going on, guilds bringing in 3 deckers to port battles. making an 3 decker requires constant activity of around 80 people, a full fledged crafting industry and time, for around 1-1.5 months.
web hosting is not about 'applications'. its about customization. more than half of any serious web hosting customer will want to do something different than whats already being provided, including any app you thought was secure. one will come up and say that they want to use a particular format with their web page but cant do it with page creator. some other will say that he wants to park a domain and redirect it in a particular fashion. not even talking about stuff thats more serious, like ecommerce scripts, forum scripts and such. take oscommerce as an example - its a standard script, but no two oscommerce stores are the same.
engines, automation does not matter. there are many big hosting companies that do very extensive automation. if people are just going to put up a few pages, and not care about anything else, they work out great. but, if they are going to do something a little more serious, whooops - you need to provide support. all kinds of issues may come up.
the process of hosting a half decent website (any website that is not easily forfeitable if any problem occurs, personal resume, small business presentational, academic etc) is not something that is just as triggerhappy as the services automated google apps can handle. the support costs, if google started such a hosting, would be so immense that either google would have to offer crappy support, or pour huge monies into support. in former case the app would be a failure, in the second case the app would carry a decent price tag that wouldnt be too different from the normal web host companies. so it would all be the same.
'production costs are real' - yes, and they are divided by infinite numbers of products which are easily copyable. at pathetic cents per cd, even the medium they are written on is ridiculously low if you mass produce. if it comes to internet distribution, those costs become almost nonexistent, per item sold.
so dont talk nonsense about production costs. if you pay 1 m dollars for producing a song, and then try to lock in your price by selling 1 million copies from $30, that is a ridiculously overblown profit margin to be defended. and thats the way it is with today's big buck distribution.
you have confused DISTRIBUTION with PRODUCTION.
yea, youre right. i shouldnt be siphoning off 100% of the remaining 1%. instead i should pay exorbitant rates to cds containing 2 useful songs next to 12 shitty ones, and feeding the existing system so we all can get exploited gloriously.
increase regulation of big buck corps ...
as it stands now, big buck corps are allowed to do every kind of shit little short of totally buying out parts of government. they pay bills through senate, they buy out congressmen and so on. as long as big buck corps have THAT kind of influence and that kind of lack of regulation (ie being able to force diebold voting machines to even states that refused them), you gonna have that kind of problems.
there are mega corporations that even dwarf american ones, in europe. but, regulations are good, and none of them can attempt the shit haliburton, diebold and friends did in 2000 elections in u.s.
i know uqm. i prefer to play the original pc version.
i know. i prefer the original pc version.
its because your quote fails exactly at that point.
musicians and movie makers have never been compensated for the work they do. musicians have been given few cents over $20 worth single album sales by the distributors, and told to go on unending world tours in order to earn money for themselves. this has been going on for aeons.
same goes for movies. directors, actors get much more cut from movie sales, but then again the lion's cut goes to people who do nothing but monopolize the distribution effectively.
we are paying zillions of dollars to people that do not generate any added value into the music/movie.
i wouldnt give a damn, if they were not also harming, damaging the ability of the creative crowd to distribute their own stuff. but situation has been so that up to today, if you havent been able to sign your soul out to a big distributor, noone knew your music, your art, your small films. but then internet came and alternative distribution became possible. good. things were going to change. but then big buck distributors started to try attempts in hampering those distribution methods, because they pose a great danger to their own monopoly - people being able to do distribution independently - holy cow, what kind of heresy.
so, this point is the point where your argument breaks down. those people not only damaging a business sector, but in general damaging the creative development of human civilization, for they have a bigger power than they are worth.
re read your post. when i took the same liberty of declaration, you have accused me of many things. you are contradicting yourself, doing the same thing and trying to pass it as something socially acceptable.
i regularly play super melee via running sc2 through dosbox. a lot of other abandonware games i have, but at night i either fire up age of conan, or super melee in star control 2 these days.
if google would lose that kind of case, they wouldnt be able to fight back the anti net neutrality law or affect the wireless spectrum auction as they were. they are not an outfit that would lose that kind of case.
we wont be able to bring down /. by posting a link to a /. article in /. no more ?
holy cow ! what the world is coming to...
why the hell should those people disappear ? noone killed them. what have they become ? monks ? nuns ? they left tech stuff behind and started primalistic lives ? noone that is affiliated with tech can stay away from tech environments. i think those people are here, on /.
its quite ironic that after just accusing me of veiling 'my bush style non sequitur' with 'freedom', you yourself have just tried to veil your rudeness and lack of manners with your 'ability to take on criticism and move on'.
noone needs that. what people need are people with manners. maybe you should reflect on that.
as for why that post was modded down, you and i both know that the reason for it has nothing to do with the perceived rudeness of word turd, for many posts containing worse words are being modded down frequently, and the sole reason it was modded down is that that post put something everyone knew VERY bluntly, without trying to appease the 'make believe' side in the ms fanbois, and thats that.
also i would like to give a heads up to you that english is not comprised of what you know in your daily life. go read some victorian era literature pieces and you'll be able to grasp more ways to use it than you are able to now.
slashdot trolls. never fail to amuse.
subsets do not change. they left digg, and now they are in slashdot. so it goes. the original subset havent changed. set has become bigger.
im a web developer, also a sysadmin, one of the things you call as 'all in one'. i come to slashdot for serious stuff. i laugh at many comments that are sprinkled within, true, but for relaxation and fun, i have to go to a profession forum. a SINGLE section, the 'lounge' section meets my online watercooler needs. because i dont have it on slashdot.
it would be good to have some place to chill out in slashdot. therefore i would be able to get everything related to internet and geekdom and tech and what goddamn culture we have going on the net, in one place.
i see the exaggerated reactions against this idle thing as a bit overblown. that video may or may not have place on the main page, however idle definitely should be a an accessible part of slashdot. yes. i want to see funny geeky stuff in some insert, some box or whatever here, on slashdot.
so then get a hold on yerselves and start acting sensible. propose ways in how idle thing can be made a part of slashdot and enrich whatever we have here, instead of ranting like an elitist.
hell. especially if you did the fallacy of registering your domain name with them.
now, if a set of behaviours you are practicing now is good, the SAME set is gonna keep on being the same. you are talking about what happens when other people start adding to the set and rename the new resulting set the same. this doesnt change anything, your particular set is gonna stay the same.
and i do have the liberty of having the attitude, reasoning ability and intelligibility of a child of three.
thats what freedom and liberty is.
is it that badass wannabees are way more vocal ?