are you looking down on fucking photoshop cs5..... bro ? that is one program that many people working in graphics, web, or publishing have to work with. most of the other benches there, are stuff that percentages of population only use for specific needs. noone will universally require you to use them.
and, you can hit 5ghz on air with bd, and you can hit it good. search youtube. everyone is doing it.
head to overclock net and see if hobbyists will spend anything on this. you wont find anyone who breaks overclock records or does custom water cooling spending $1000 on this. only fanboys with brand loyalty. that is normal.
your brother is better off with a dual socket solution and amd opterons if he is doing anything that serious. which could come even cheaper than this intel setup and provide multiples of performance. if he isnt doing that already, then he doesnt know shit, and your argument is null.
oh yeah. instead of encoding in the time that it takes for me to go get a cup of tea and back, now my encoding will be complete by i reach the door to wc while passing through the corridor from the kitchen to the living room. yes. that totally justifies shelling out $900 to encode my home videos.
no hobbyist will spend $1000 for a cpu+cooler for these performances. pointless. leave aside lack of a lot of major stuff like usb 3 et al.
and, not 3, but 4 video cards in crossfire or sli will not require this kind of computing power. even if you shove in 2 x 6990s in crossfire, which make 4 top-rate gpus put into 2 cards. apparently you dont know this enthusiast field, so dont bullshit about it.
Along with the cray they are upgrading (#3 in the world now, will be #1 when complete) and the one lockheed martin ordered (3 days ago) this is the third supercomputer that was ordered in the last 3 weeks to use opterons (bulldozer 16 cores).
the cpu sucks so much that, it is exclusively dominating the SUPERcomputer market.
get that majority first. before you are able to get that majority, there will be a lot of things happening until that point.
and yes, if you get a majority and vote my home away from you, then it is proper. for all people combined is what define a society. when you determine different rules like property rights, copyrights, and all other stuff to go with it, you take rule away from all of those people, and give it to minority who is able to control those rules. everyone becomes a minority's bitch.
It has become necessary that we all ignore copyrights from this point on, in civil disobedience. This has really gone too far. Take a look - an organization that represents a minority of the population's interests, can have more privileges than all other citizens, and other citizens are obliged to that minority. this is against democracy. property rights, cannot come before democracy.
and the russian mafia will kill such competent hackers (anyone who is outing real info on mexican drug mafia will be different than the regular script kiddies) instead of making use of them.
and let me break the news to you - it is highly probable that russian mafia, chinese govt. et al are ALREADY using those hackers.
"... wank wank, yank yank, this that, rant rant, piss piss " -> This is the reaction we get EVERYtime we tell that microsoft will probably kill this or that service/product that they think they are not benefiting from enough. not 4 months ago when it was almost evident that they would drop silverlight, zygotes here were flaming us when we suggested that, citing this or that reason. 'silverlight is used widenly in *insert niche application here*', 'it has a strong community' this that. what happened ?
there has been numerous news regarding how they were wavering about.net, and when those articles appeared here, the same people lambasted anyone suggesting that microsoft may ditch.net people too, even while.net users were in a stampede in their own forums over questions over future of.net.
microsoft is a private company with american corporate morals. they will not hesitate from ditching all of you when they see it fit. 'they' here means whichever product/technology manager at that time is dominating the policy. and it varies.
fuck is 'mind share' ffs. if you are going to be paying money you are probably still BETTER off with ipad, WHY exactly ? because it is a weaker, less capable device than asus's transformer in the article ?
This is technology. something which you can see in your neighbor's wall someday in future. The fact that it is not information technology doesnt make it less technology, leave aside 'idle'.
1-1.5 year in university will make you see that not only you probably wont be able to make good money in that profession, but your academic potentials in academia will also be limited with the same kind of filth that plagues politics/corporations - power play, interests, dirty dealings, people pulling shit to undo others and get ahead. you have to be VERY idealistic and persevering in order to attempt conducting science in modern academia.
i had numerous friends who had desired to actually be scientists in university, most of them let go of the idea early. those who actually persevered gave up later.
there are actually people still using 4870 cards, to play recent titles in high settings. i noticed that if i had had bought a 4870 instead of a 3870 back in 2007ish, i wouldnt need to change my card last year. even then my 3870 was holding very well, but the dual slot fansink was rather noisy (they always are). so i moved onto a 5670 arctic cooler sapphire, which is so silent that i didnt hear any fan noice for the last year despite overclocking it in taxing games.
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are you looking down on fucking photoshop cs5 ..... bro ? that is one program that many people working in graphics, web, or publishing have to work with. most of the other benches there, are stuff that percentages of population only use for specific needs. noone will universally require you to use them.
and, you can hit 5ghz on air with bd, and you can hit it good. search youtube. everyone is doing it.
early next year, 12-16 core desktop dozers are out. every year, new dozers are out with more cores. that is the amd strategy.
head to overclock net and see if hobbyists will spend anything on this. you wont find anyone who breaks overclock records or does custom water cooling spending $1000 on this. only fanboys with brand loyalty. that is normal.
your brother is better off with a dual socket solution and amd opterons if he is doing anything that serious. which could come even cheaper than this intel setup and provide multiples of performance. if he isnt doing that already, then he doesnt know shit, and your argument is null.
oh yeah. instead of encoding in the time that it takes for me to go get a cup of tea and back, now my encoding will be complete by i reach the door to wc while passing through the corridor from the kitchen to the living room. yes. that totally justifies shelling out $900 to encode my home videos.
well you are seeing wrong.
in various important applications like photoshop cs5, dozer bests intel's existing sbs, all.
http://www.overclock.net/hardware-news/1150995-extremetech-analyzing-bulldozer-why-amd-s-25.html#post15475610
moreover, you are able to overclock bulldozer to ramp up your performance. and its possible to go to comfortable 5ghz with air coolers.
no hobbyist will spend $1000 for a cpu+cooler for these performances. pointless. leave aside lack of a lot of major stuff like usb 3 et al.
and, not 3, but 4 video cards in crossfire or sli will not require this kind of computing power. even if you shove in 2 x 6990s in crossfire, which make 4 top-rate gpus put into 2 cards. apparently you dont know this enthusiast field, so dont bullshit about it.
MULTITHREADED performance it says. not fps. there are cheaper amd chips which do fps as well with cheaper prices.
http://venturebeat.com/2011/11/13/amd-introduces-worlds-first-16-core-pc-microprocessor/
no it doesnt. not when it comes only close with amd's 8 cores in multithreaded apps. 16 cores , becomes unmatchable.
All the new generation, ALL that high price, and it still comes up close with amd's new cpus in multithreaded performance ?
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/11/14/intel_core_i73960x_sandy_bridge_e_processor_review/6
no wonder there have been 3 opteron (bulldozer) supercomputer orders in the last 3 weeks.
Along with the cray they are upgrading (#3 in the world now, will be #1 when complete) and the one lockheed martin ordered (3 days ago) this is the third supercomputer that was ordered in the last 3 weeks to use opterons (bulldozer 16 cores).
the cpu sucks so much that, it is exclusively dominating the SUPERcomputer market.
ahaha ahahaha ahahahaha ahahahaha ahahahahah hahahahaha haha haha hahaaa .......... you're funny ......... not.
get that majority first. before you are able to get that majority, there will be a lot of things happening until that point.
and yes, if you get a majority and vote my home away from you, then it is proper. for all people combined is what define a society. when you determine different rules like property rights, copyrights, and all other stuff to go with it, you take rule away from all of those people, and give it to minority who is able to control those rules. everyone becomes a minority's bitch.
rather free, than a bitch.
It has become necessary that we all ignore copyrights from this point on, in civil disobedience. This has really gone too far. Take a look - an organization that represents a minority of the population's interests, can have more privileges than all other citizens, and other citizens are obliged to that minority. this is against democracy. property rights, cannot come before democracy.
All lawmaking was privatized long ago.
thats because of 50 years of advertisement hollywood is still propagating.
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and the russian mafia will kill such competent hackers (anyone who is outing real info on mexican drug mafia will be different than the regular script kiddies) instead of making use of them.
and let me break the news to you - it is highly probable that russian mafia, chinese govt. et al are ALREADY using those hackers.
so, i think, not.
anon/lulzsec member in china or russia can harm them. what will mexican drug cartels do ? send a mexican to xiyghuan province, to behead the hacker ?
"... wank wank, yank yank, this that, rant rant, piss piss " -> This is the reaction we get EVERYtime we tell that microsoft will probably kill this or that service/product that they think they are not benefiting from enough. not 4 months ago when it was almost evident that they would drop silverlight, zygotes here were flaming us when we suggested that, citing this or that reason. 'silverlight is used widenly in *insert niche application here*', 'it has a strong community' this that. what happened ?
.net, and when those articles appeared here, the same people lambasted anyone suggesting that microsoft may ditch .net people too, even while .net users were in a stampede in their own forums over questions over future of .net.
there has been numerous news regarding how they were wavering about
microsoft is a private company with american corporate morals. they will not hesitate from ditching all of you when they see it fit. 'they' here means whichever product/technology manager at that time is dominating the policy. and it varies.
so what is he trying to say ?
fuck is 'mind share' ffs. if you are going to be paying money you are probably still BETTER off with ipad, WHY exactly ? because it is a weaker, less capable device than asus's transformer in the article ?
you are saying that your ipad can run windows 8 ?
This is technology. something which you can see in your neighbor's wall someday in future. The fact that it is not information technology doesnt make it less technology, leave aside 'idle'.
1-1.5 year in university will make you see that not only you probably wont be able to make good money in that profession, but your academic potentials in academia will also be limited with the same kind of filth that plagues politics/corporations - power play, interests, dirty dealings, people pulling shit to undo others and get ahead. you have to be VERY idealistic and persevering in order to attempt conducting science in modern academia.
i had numerous friends who had desired to actually be scientists in university, most of them let go of the idea early. those who actually persevered gave up later.
there are actually people still using 4870 cards, to play recent titles in high settings. i noticed that if i had had bought a 4870 instead of a 3870 back in 2007ish, i wouldnt need to change my card last year. even then my 3870 was holding very well, but the dual slot fansink was rather noisy (they always are). so i moved onto a 5670 arctic cooler sapphire, which is so silent that i didnt hear any fan noice for the last year despite overclocking it in taxing games.
ati seems to know how to produce gpus.
what if it ends up as a really tinsie wincy little massive energy release that will obliterate a city ?