Everyone will be happy -- the wikimedia foundation will have their principles in order and the Chinese government can provide lots of free (as in beer) censored content.
If wikimedia were to allow this to happen they would be just as guilty as if they themselves censored the content. When you actively allow something like this to happen, you might as well be doing it yourself.
I played UO from beta on, and still have accounts. I joined a guild some time in 1997. The guild left UO and mostly moved on to EQ when it was released. While I didn't follow them, I still keep in touch with several friends I made. At this point we rarely talk about gaming related topics. The only difference between our friendship and a "normal, real life" one is that I've never met some of these people face to face.
based on the assumption that users are too dumb to ever learn their way around a heirarchy of folders
Working in tech support has shown me that this is the only assumption that will keep you sane when you mix the public with technology... I wish I could say otherwise, but I can't.
If that were the case, this was either a LONG time ago, or he was using one of like the first few serial only point and shoot digital cameras that Canon produced. Everything else has 2k and XP drivers.
But let's not even worry about the availability of Windows 2K/XP drivers , why didn't your friend just use a card reader? It seems a bit extreme to junk a camera when a $5 gadget could solve the problem.
And even if we fast forward to today, though I haven't personally tried it, I would imagine that Linux has PTP support by now. Cameras that support PTP have been pretty standard for a few years now, so it seems hard to imagine that there's still an issue.
I wish I had a rebuttal to this. But the sad truth is, due to the current political-religious climate of the US, the United States is going to continue to be trounced in any academic and scientific field.
Articles like the one yesterday about the appalling number of people who dismiss evolution seem to get filed out of my brain quickly, as it causes physical pain to think about such things. I would have hoped that in the 21st century, after 100 years of radical scientific and technological advancement, we would have moved beyond such things.
The "debate" is basically a media event, based on people who take their grade-school science classes too seriously, and think that for some reason that the Solar System must contain exactly nine "planets".
I think that one of the problems in this country (the US) is that we do not take grade school science seriously enough. We need those science classes to engage the kids and hopefully inspire some of them to a career in some scientific field.
I would argue that when you control what the people know, you can control what they think. The Chinese people don't know what's going on in their country vs. what is going on in the rest of the world.
I would be willing to bet dollars to yuan that an educated Chinese population would endeavor to change their situation.
Well, you'd think that a 6 and a half foot tall Arab on dialysis would stick out in CA, but you'd also think he'd stick out in the hills of Afghanistan too.
Personally, I've experienced #1 with a family member.
At one point I worked on the phones doing support for a camera company (I'm still with the company, but have progressed beyond dealing with the public). Someone thought it would be a good idea to get my 80 year old grandmother a computer and a digital camera. And of course, the camera just had to be made by the company I work for.
Fast forward to her attempting to install the new device on the new computer:
*ring ring* Me: Hello? Grandmother: You need to help me install my new camera. Me: OK. *spends the next 10 minutes trying to pry various bits of information out of her so that I know what needs to be done* Me: First thing we need to do is restart the computer. Do you know how do that? Grandmother: Yes. (5 seconds pass) OK, I restarted the computer. Me: Umm, are you sure? That was a bit too fast to have restarted. Grandmother: Well, I restarted it. Me: Describe to me what you did to restart the computer. Grandmother: I turned the TV off and then turned it back on. Me: *bangs head on desk*
It was at this point that I learned that her computer consisted of two components: the "TV" and the "modem."
time cannot flow at different rates, or at any "rate" for that matter. rate is the measurement of something across time. time over time is always a constant 1. unless time stops entirely in which case it is undefined
I'm no physicist, but isn't time only constant for each observer?
Think of what this would do to the launch prices of future Nintendo consoles if it were to happen. Think we'd see the Nintendo "Uss" (the successor to the Wii, fun with pronouns) around $200 is Apple were in the drivers seat?
One problem with your post is the assumption that Google (or any other large bandwidth using company) ISN'T paying more. Google certainly isn't running off of the same cable connection that I'm using now to post this. They are paying more for a far greater amount of than any of us. I can't even imagine what their bills are each billing cycle.
Now, why should they be paying MORE than they're already paying? I can't think of a reason. They're already paying for the amount of bandwidth, what difference does it make how it's being used?
For a really lame analogy: One of my major hobbies is that I keep fish, both freshwater and saltwater. The fish stores I go to, like all others, depend on a utility to make money. That utility is water. I can only imagine what their monthly water bill is. They'll be paying far more than you or I, or the Radio Shack located in the shop next door to them, because they're consuming more. Now, should they have to pay more for that water because they're using it to make money?
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You just tell them they need to make sure the other side looks alright and lock the gate once they go through.
Credit for the above goes to Carlos Mencia.
Or that you're overly sensitive to things that make very little difference to the average person emailing and browsing the web.
- You deny API calls from within China
- Have a closed API that you must be registered for, thus allowing you to weed out people you don't want to have access
I'm sure that people far smarter than I would be able to come up with better possibilities.If there is some kind of API for accessing wikimedia's stored information, then I would imagine that there's some kind of access control method.
Everyone will be happy -- the wikimedia foundation will have their principles in order and the Chinese government can provide lots of free (as in beer) censored content.
If wikimedia were to allow this to happen they would be just as guilty as if they themselves censored the content. When you actively allow something like this to happen, you might as well be doing it yourself.
I played UO from beta on, and still have accounts. I joined a guild some time in 1997. The guild left UO and mostly moved on to EQ when it was released. While I didn't follow them, I still keep in touch with several friends I made. At this point we rarely talk about gaming related topics. The only difference between our friendship and a "normal, real life" one is that I've never met some of these people face to face.
Indeed I have. Hell, I had sex with a female guildmate. Umm, maybe I shouldn't be admiting that...
I remember playing The Shadow of Yserbius on The Sierra Network in the early '90s. While the pricing went up over the years, check out what the charges were at the end of its life.
As others have said, $15 a month is a steal compared what we were paying then.
I'm sure there are more of us out there that played at this time. I wonder if there are any former KOY members out there.
based on the assumption that users are too dumb to ever learn their way around a heirarchy of folders
Working in tech support has shown me that this is the only assumption that will keep you sane when you mix the public with technology... I wish I could say otherwise, but I can't.
Those of us still playing UO don't even get a mention? Geez...
If that were the case, this was either a LONG time ago, or he was using one of like the first few serial only point and shoot digital cameras that Canon produced. Everything else has 2k and XP drivers.
But let's not even worry about the availability of Windows 2K/XP drivers , why didn't your friend just use a card reader? It seems a bit extreme to junk a camera when a $5 gadget could solve the problem.
And even if we fast forward to today, though I haven't personally tried it, I would imagine that Linux has PTP support by now. Cameras that support PTP have been pretty standard for a few years now, so it seems hard to imagine that there's still an issue.
I wish I had a rebuttal to this. But the sad truth is, due to the current political-religious climate of the US, the United States is going to continue to be trounced in any academic and scientific field.
Articles like the one yesterday about the appalling number of people who dismiss evolution seem to get filed out of my brain quickly, as it causes physical pain to think about such things. I would have hoped that in the 21st century, after 100 years of radical scientific and technological advancement, we would have moved beyond such things.
The "debate" is basically a media event, based on people who take their grade-school science classes too seriously, and think that for some reason that the Solar System must contain exactly nine "planets".
I think that one of the problems in this country (the US) is that we do not take grade school science seriously enough. We need those science classes to engage the kids and hopefully inspire some of them to a career in some scientific field.
I would argue that when you control what the people know, you can control what they think. The Chinese people don't know what's going on in their country vs. what is going on in the rest of the world.
I would be willing to bet dollars to yuan that an educated Chinese population would endeavor to change their situation.
Well, you'd think that a 6 and a half foot tall Arab on dialysis would stick out in CA, but you'd also think he'd stick out in the hills of Afghanistan too.
That's it! Screw the kids, think of the kittens!
"If there was a vote for impeachment that the public could vote in, I would vote. "
Fortunately for the rest of us, there's not.
[sarcasm]Yes, 'cause how dare the public have a voice.[/sarcasm]
The only reason that I can even imagine for holding such a position is because one is afraid that "their side" would lose.
Wikipedia is too high profile for a new site such as this to deter any shenanigans.
At one point I worked on the phones doing support for a camera company (I'm still with the company, but have progressed beyond dealing with the public). Someone thought it would be a good idea to get my 80 year old grandmother a computer and a digital camera. And of course, the camera just had to be made by the company I work for.
Fast forward to her attempting to install the new device on the new computer:
It was at this point that I learned that her computer consisted of two components: the "TV" and the "modem."
For some reason I don't see a monopolistic company allowing themselves to drop down to 4th or 5th in their own results.
Anyone care to guess who the top result in Yahoo and MSN are?
I'm no physicist, but isn't time only constant for each observer?
Think of what this would do to the launch prices of future Nintendo consoles if it were to happen. Think we'd see the Nintendo "Uss" (the successor to the Wii, fun with pronouns) around $200 is Apple were in the drivers seat?
One problem with your post is the assumption that Google (or any other large bandwidth using company) ISN'T paying more. Google certainly isn't running off of the same cable connection that I'm using now to post this. They are paying more for a far greater amount of than any of us. I can't even imagine what their bills are each billing cycle.
Now, why should they be paying MORE than they're already paying? I can't think of a reason. They're already paying for the amount of bandwidth, what difference does it make how it's being used?
For a really lame analogy: One of my major hobbies is that I keep fish, both freshwater and saltwater. The fish stores I go to, like all others, depend on a utility to make money. That utility is water. I can only imagine what their monthly water bill is. They'll be paying far more than you or I, or the Radio Shack located in the shop next door to them, because they're consuming more. Now, should they have to pay more for that water because they're using it to make money?
"No Stairway? Denied." - Wayne Campbell
Will this be yet one more program that is supposed to serve "just one" purpose, that grows and grows?