In theory, the random seeding would work excellently if new elements were consistantly added. He mentioned coke cans, why not resurrect Tan soda?
Random seeding works really well for things like items but I imagine it's hard to pull off when you're dealing with something like new visual elements.
Come to think of it one of the best features of the mud i've wasted far too much of my life in is item tweaking. Running the same zone several times over to get the best eye of vecna you can get or what have you. Definately motivates you to play more and adds flavor to an economy.
Around 20% of all players are explorers
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Actually, you'd be suprised. A lot of would-be MMORPGers are looking for that exploration aspect in a game. In fact it's 1/4th of the Bartle test which tells you what sort of MUDder you are, unfortunately I lack a url at this time.
Well, if you had an Aaron Sorkin or some other talented writer providing the entertainment rather than trying to add doodads and gameplay elements, the main draw would most certainly be the plot.
Content of such a nature would almost certainly be almost bug free from the getgo.
Indeed, this is an exciting concept. The main innovation that this format allows is for the average player to become the badass in an online game that he has always wanted to be, something akin to Neo in The Matrix. This simply isn't possible in current MMORPG's because there isn't anyway to maintain gameplay balance and make everyone feel unique without an impossible millions upon millions of development hours.
However I am slightly disturbed by his comment regarding PVP. It is more successful in the Asian market but despite that there is still a large core of people who love PVP in the North American market, just look at warcraft. The primary difference is that most people who play role playing games in the United States are steeped in the traditions of Dungeons and Dragons and other tabletop RPG's where Player versus Player combat simply didn't make a great deal of sense. Come to think of it, Player versus Player combat doesn't work very well with true role playing because death has to be permanent to give the characters meaningful motivations to not go about killing each other all the time.
Thus in competitive MMORPG's (as seen most recently in that dissertation regarding the behavior of Everquest players.) roleplaying simply does not exist, and RPG has become something of a catchall for "Playing a single character who gains statistics and power over a gameplay carrer."
I have chosen to send you a message in telegraph form STOP This is a reflection of the fact that the technology used in your programming language STOP Java STOP Is roughly as useful as knowing how to operate a telegraph STOP Despite the fact that Computers have become roughly twenty times as powerful as when you first released Java, your bulky and resource abusing language is still not useable STOP Therefore, please at least make a claim of having revised and improved the language before attempting to feed us a line of nonsense STOP
Respectfully yours, etcetera etcetera STOP
Re:I saw this at E3.
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You'll have to see clonish behavior. The sheer amount of man hours it takes to design just one building will inevitably lead to cloned buildings or set-piece designs. Morrowind is huge, and even though each one of the ancestral tombs is 'individual' they all feel the same. Pulling off unique buildings for an area that large is, simply put, impossible given limited time and resources.
My only qualm with it is how slow it runs compared to how slow it has to run. Then again i'm use to lightning chess for fast board games. I don't know that i'd pay a fee for it, but its definately inspired me to find the original game.
I believe this isn't the first time silly papers have been written. I can illustrate better using quotations. Let the source remain unknown.
[@ e] Shan, they play EQ all day long, they figure why not write their dissertation on it. [@ Shanoyu] That's a possibility. [@ e] Some guy at UCSB apparently spent all his time at the beach smoking out, so his dissertation wound up as a documenting of a "freeform community art project", i.e. some walls covered in graffiti. [@ e] He even used my new favorite phrase in the entire world... [@ saltygirl] lol [@ saltygirl] heirachies of access [@ saltygirl] +r [@ e] Yes! [@ e] +r is short for IS RULEZ [@ saltygirl] =P [@ e] Hierarchies of access are my new favorite thing.
Nah, it's easy for an e2 newbie to get the right connections. The problem with e2 is that the level of hate that users hold for one another end up being grudges that never, ever, ever fade.
Gosh. A simple rule of thumb would seem to be, "If selling your share of stock makes the news, you probably have too much." At this point he'd probably be a pauper if MSFT were to hit bottom. Of course, MSFT hitting bottom is probably more related to overall economic conditions than what goes on at Microsoft.
No, singapore is not a western country. They are pourposefully closed from the rest of the western world. You are not westerners, we ostracise singapore and we do it for a reason.
If you do not understand why America is fundamentally different from Singapore and our opposition to your policies, then quite frankly you simply know nothing about America.
Back in the early days of everything I found that one of the first nodes written was [La Blue Girl] by CmdrTaco. It has since been deleted. CONCIDENCE? I THINK NOT.
Yes, i'm here my son, (increase your tone of voice like a bible belt preacher) but are you here for JESUS?
If the telemarketer does not hang up, he will either say yes, no, or something else. If he says yes,
"Then my son you must GIVE UP your SINFUL WAYS and accept JESUS, the CHRIST ALMIGHTY into your heart! Put down that telephone, put down your tool of Satan, cast yourself AWAY from the moneylenders! Cast yourself INTO the LORD ALMIGHTY, JESUS CHRIST."
If he says no, then begin pretending to exorcise demons from the telemarketer like so: "JESSSUS! This poor soul has been INFECTED by a MINION of the DEVIL! Get out of him! Get out of him! do you feel me son! Are you there, son!"
By this point the person has assuredly hung up.
If he says something else: "Would you be interested in purchasing literature regarding the origin of man, the universe, and god? Do you prefer "Yea, though I walk through the shadow of the valley of death" ? or "Yea, though I walk through the darkest valley?", would you be interested in signing a petition regarding the new standard revised what-cha-ma-call-it gideon enhanced bible six point oh? (continue ad libbing)
The Sci-fi movies are going to make Dune the phenomenon it should be, the only problem is figuring out how a dune enthusiast is going to wear that huge metal collapsable wall that they show in the promos.
Because if a player paid a tournament organizer $30 to participate in a tournament and found that he was playing in a field of chess computers he would quickly demand a refund and leave; we can do that crap at home. Computers have their own leagues. (That's how Deep Junior was chosen to play Kasparov.)
I dunno, i'm nothing special, (989 Blitz elo on FICS), but I could do something special with Deep Junior's opening book at a tournament. Considering the fact that I can make the first few moves of a chess game without human prodding to make any specific one, I think my abilities far outstrip DJ's. I mean really, computers still can't even play chess yet, and it's doubtful they ever will be able to do anything more masterful than DJ's greek gift sacrifice for a draw out of nowhere in game 5, which was indeed impressive.
What you mean is that we haven't won recently. If you're claiming that Tal and Grandmasters of yesteryear would have had any problems tearing a 1970's "silicon^H^H^H^H^H cellophane monster" limb from limb then you're hallucinating. Furthermore, A computer will never actually be able to play chess, because we can't teach it to program it's own openings. We still haven't gotten past playing the opening book for it. All computer chess proves is that computers can make a lot of calculuations, and fast. (Shocking, huh?)
Unfortunately I find that do not call lists generally fail. At the very least telemarketing isn't as bad as e-mail spam because you can take out your personal problems on a telemarketer and ask them why in the name of good, christian decency they've taken up such an ignoble profession.
I doubt that there is really a way to deal with the email spam problem other than passing legislation which allows for the seizure of computer equipment of businesses which use the practice. Until we have some way of actually putting a penalty for doing so, it will continue.
Re:User input could solve problems
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But they aren't moderators. What I am extrapolating is a system of organised whining, nothing like slashdot at all. All of the input, lets call them downvotes, (no upvotes allowed with this sorry) is simply a suggestion which is viewed by the google administration, so they can be easily pointed to that which is irrelevant. It wouldn't actually bestow any sort of actual power to the google user, just the ability to complain about specifics.
Re:On the other hand....
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Well hopefully there would only be downvoting, no upvoting. The equivilant of upvoting would come through googles normal machinations. Which is to say, I could note to google that something is worthless and irrelevant, but not that I think it should have a higher position. I don't think a system using a user registry would have all that many problems with spammers.
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Perhaps the best solution, if things get too far out of hand, is to use the input of people who would be pissed off about crappy listings. That is to say, give users a free user account which could be used to give input on whats crap and whats not, then the Google admins could simply remove all the crap that rose to the top because enough users clicked a link that said, "This is crap!" Using this in conjunction with google's already strong engine would probably solve any problems, imho.
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Indeed, it seems they have chosen to live off the pokemon license.
In theory, the random seeding would work excellently if new elements were consistantly added. He mentioned coke cans, why not resurrect Tan soda?
Random seeding works really well for things like items but I imagine it's hard to pull off when you're dealing with something like new visual elements.
Come to think of it one of the best features of the mud i've wasted far too much of my life in is item tweaking. Running the same zone several times over to get the best eye of vecna you can get or what have you. Definately motivates you to play more and adds flavor to an economy.
Actually, you'd be suprised. A lot of would-be MMORPGers are looking for that exploration aspect in a game. In fact it's 1/4th of the Bartle test which tells you what sort of MUDder you are, unfortunately I lack a url at this time.
Well, if you had an Aaron Sorkin or some other talented writer providing the entertainment rather than trying to add doodads and gameplay elements, the main draw would most certainly be the plot.
Content of such a nature would almost certainly be almost bug free from the getgo.
Indeed, this is an exciting concept. The main innovation that this format allows is for the average player to become the badass in an online game that he has always wanted to be, something akin to Neo in The Matrix. This simply isn't possible in current MMORPG's because there isn't anyway to maintain gameplay balance and make everyone feel unique without an impossible millions upon millions of development hours.
However I am slightly disturbed by his comment regarding PVP. It is more successful in the Asian market but despite that there is still a large core of people who love PVP in the North American market, just look at warcraft. The primary difference is that most people who play role playing games in the United States are steeped in the traditions of Dungeons and Dragons and other tabletop RPG's where Player versus Player combat simply didn't make a great deal of sense. Come to think of it, Player versus Player combat doesn't work very well with true role playing because death has to be permanent to give the characters meaningful motivations to not go about killing each other all the time.
Thus in competitive MMORPG's (as seen most recently in that dissertation regarding the behavior of Everquest players.) roleplaying simply does not exist, and RPG has become something of a catchall for "Playing a single character who gains statistics and power over a gameplay carrer."
Dear Sun Microsystems STOP
I have chosen to send you a message in telegraph
form STOP
This is a reflection of the fact that the technology used in your programming language STOP
Java STOP
Is roughly as useful as knowing how to operate a telegraph STOP
Despite the fact that Computers have become roughly twenty times as powerful as when you first released Java, your bulky and resource abusing language is still not useable STOP
Therefore, please at least make a claim of having revised and improved the language before attempting to feed us a line of nonsense STOP
Respectfully yours, etcetera etcetera STOP
You'll have to see clonish behavior. The sheer amount of man hours it takes to design just one building will inevitably lead to cloned buildings or set-piece designs. Morrowind is huge, and even though each one of the ancestral tombs is 'individual' they all feel the same. Pulling off unique buildings for an area that large is, simply put, impossible given limited time and resources.
My only qualm with it is how slow it runs compared to how slow it has to run. Then again i'm use to lightning chess for fast board games. I don't know that i'd pay a fee for it, but its definately inspired me to find the original game.
I believe this isn't the first time silly papers have been written. I can illustrate better using quotations. Let the source remain unknown.
[@ e] Shan, they play EQ all day long, they figure why not write their dissertation on it.
[@ Shanoyu] That's a possibility.
[@ e] Some guy at UCSB apparently spent all his time at the beach smoking out, so his dissertation wound up as a documenting of a "freeform community art project", i.e. some walls covered in graffiti.
[@ e] He even used my new favorite phrase in the entire world...
[@ saltygirl] lol
[@ saltygirl] heirachies of access
[@ saltygirl] +r
[@ e] Yes!
[@ e] +r is short for IS RULEZ
[@ saltygirl] =P
[@ e] Hierarchies of access are my new favorite thing.
Nah, it's easy for an e2 newbie to get the right connections. The problem with e2 is that the level of hate that users hold for one another end up being grudges that never, ever, ever fade.
Gosh. A simple rule of thumb would seem to be, "If selling your share of stock makes the news, you probably have too much." At this point he'd probably be a pauper if MSFT were to hit bottom. Of course, MSFT hitting bottom is probably more related to overall economic conditions than what goes on at Microsoft.
If you expected something other than an action movie then you're probably a moron. Nothing personal.
No, singapore is not a western country. They are pourposefully closed from the rest of the western world. You are not westerners, we ostracise singapore and we do it for a reason.
If you do not understand why America is fundamentally different from Singapore and our opposition to your policies, then quite frankly you simply know nothing about America.
Back in the early days of everything I found that one of the first nodes written was [La Blue Girl] by CmdrTaco. It has since been deleted. CONCIDENCE? I THINK NOT.
When the telemarketer asks for you:
Yes, i'm here my son, (increase your tone of voice like a bible belt preacher) but are you here for JESUS?
If the telemarketer does not hang up, he will either say yes, no, or something else. If he says yes,
"Then my son you must GIVE UP your SINFUL WAYS and accept JESUS, the CHRIST ALMIGHTY into your heart! Put down that telephone, put down your tool of Satan, cast yourself AWAY from the moneylenders! Cast yourself INTO the LORD ALMIGHTY, JESUS CHRIST."
If he says no, then begin pretending to exorcise demons from the telemarketer like so: "JESSSUS! This poor soul has been INFECTED by a MINION of the DEVIL! Get out of him! Get out of him! do you feel me son! Are you there, son!"
By this point the person has assuredly hung up.
If he says something else: "Would you be interested in purchasing literature regarding the origin of man, the universe, and god? Do you prefer "Yea, though I walk through the shadow of the valley of death" ? or "Yea, though I walk through the darkest valley?", would you be interested in signing a petition regarding the new standard revised what-cha-ma-call-it gideon enhanced bible six point oh? (continue ad libbing)
The Sci-fi movies are going to make Dune the phenomenon it should be, the only problem is figuring out how a dune enthusiast is going to wear that huge metal collapsable wall that they show in the promos.
Ideally the question is rather who defines "terrorist." And personally, I am rooting for a court of law with open proceedings on that one.
The Week in Chess: TWIC
It's big, it's commercial, it's Chessbase
Because if a player paid a tournament organizer $30 to participate in a tournament and found that he was playing in a field of chess computers he would quickly demand a refund and leave; we can do that crap at home. Computers have their own leagues. (That's how Deep Junior was chosen to play Kasparov.)
I dunno, i'm nothing special, (989 Blitz elo on FICS), but I could do something special with Deep Junior's opening book at a tournament. Considering the fact that I can make the first few moves of a chess game without human prodding to make any specific one, I think my abilities far outstrip DJ's. I mean really, computers still can't even play chess yet, and it's doubtful they ever will be able to do anything more masterful than DJ's greek gift sacrifice for a draw out of nowhere in game 5, which was indeed impressive.
What you mean is that we haven't won recently. If you're claiming that Tal and Grandmasters of yesteryear would have had any problems tearing a 1970's "silicon^H^H^H^H^H cellophane monster" limb from limb then you're hallucinating. Furthermore, A computer will never actually be able to play chess, because we can't teach it to program it's own openings. We still haven't gotten past playing the opening book for it. All computer chess proves is that computers can make a lot of calculuations, and fast. (Shocking, huh?)
Unfortunately I find that do not call lists generally fail. At the very least telemarketing isn't as bad as e-mail spam because you can take out your personal problems on a telemarketer and ask them why in the name of good, christian decency they've taken up such an ignoble profession.
I doubt that there is really a way to deal with the email spam problem other than passing legislation which allows for the seizure of computer equipment of businesses which use the practice. Until we have some way of actually putting a penalty for doing so, it will continue.
But they aren't moderators. What I am extrapolating is a system of organised whining, nothing like slashdot at all. All of the input, lets call them downvotes, (no upvotes allowed with this sorry) is simply a suggestion which is viewed by the google administration, so they can be easily pointed to that which is irrelevant. It wouldn't actually bestow any sort of actual power to the google user, just the ability to complain about specifics.
Well hopefully there would only be downvoting, no upvoting. The equivilant of upvoting would come through googles normal machinations. Which is to say, I could note to google that something is worthless and irrelevant, but not that I think it should have a higher position. I don't think a system using a user registry would have all that many problems with spammers.
Perhaps the best solution, if things get too far out of hand, is to use the input of people who would be pissed off about crappy listings. That is to say, give users a free user account which could be used to give input on whats crap and whats not, then the Google admins could simply remove all the crap that rose to the top because enough users clicked a link that said, "This is crap!" Using this in conjunction with google's already strong engine would probably solve any problems, imho.