If only I was laughing. I've seen firefox go over 120Mb of ram on regular occasions. I HAVE to close it if I plan on doing anything else on my laptop. Often I'm running another program that is sucking down 250-300 mb of ram so tacking on an additional 120 really isn't acceptable.
I've thought about stripping out the extentions to see if any of that helps, but it doesn't appear from this thread that they are the real issues. And if I were to strip out all the extras that I like, and end up with a browser that is slower and uses more ram than IE, why not use IE?
I'll probably check out Opera this weekend. Does anyone have any suggestions other than IE?
The problem is that when the police make a mistake, the onus falls upon the accused. When I first ran into the problem with the parking ticket, I thought it would be a simple thing of talking with the local police department and having them say, "Yup, our goof." and tear it up.
Instead what I got was, "Yeah, our goof, the guy was in training. Just leave the ticket alone until it turns into a warrant, then you can argue your case in front of a judge." Not only is that a waste of resources for everyone involved, but it is sickening to believe that the police are so unconcerned and unmotivated to correct their mistake that they would require a trial.
In the case of the towed vehicle, it was a different jurisdiction, but the case was even more disturbing. When I went to court, there were 7 other defendants to the same charge in attendance. Each had their case thrown out (Of course, it took 4 hours to get through them all) But most of these people could barely afford rent, let alone the $500+ fine that went along with abandonment of vehicle. In the town where I lived, $500 was 2 weeks pay. For people who are very likely living paycheck to paycheck, such a fine could place them into debt, or worse.
It was the shotgun style approach of this officer (who targeted any vehicle older than 15 years) that resulted in a lot of wasted court time, a full day of work for 9 people (8 defendants and a judge) and the risk of money lost to those who couldn't afford it.
I've since moved, but repeated interactions with the police have put such a sour taste in my mouth that I'm sad to admit that my first reaction to seeing the police is one of disgust, rather than respect. It should make every police officer sad as well.
I can't even rely on the 'If you have nothing to hide' arguement. I have nothing to hide, and I still end up getting shafted. You will too.
Though my original statement was just intended to be funny, this thing seems little more than a mood ring, something that requires no active interaction. You could glance at it every 5 minutes or so and keep track of your stress, much like you would monitor your heartbeat if you were running on a treadmill. Though it does seem a bit overkill of a solution to something I didn't really know was a problem.
Though I suppose it could reduce the cost of controller replacement for those who suffer from 'Nintendo-rage'.
It seems a lot of 'fantasy' gets mislabeled as sci-fi as well. I've seen many people here on Slashdot complain that what is labeled sci-fi, isn't. So some of the networks may view those supernatural type shows as sci-fi and may even try to suggest that it may pull in the 'geek' demographic.
In the network's defense, Sci-fi and fantasy can be very segmented. While an outside observer (Network executive) may view sci-fi as one catch-all, it is quite possible to have someone love one aspect of Sci-fi, but hate another segment.
To work off a well known story, take the Hitchhiker's guide. It is Sci-fi (sort of), but also a social commentary presented with a darkish humor. Now compare that to Star Wars, which is much more Science-fantasy. Both of these get lumped into the same catch-all that is 'sci-fi'. What makes this tricky for any sci-fi show, is that you could end up fracturing your target audience to an even smaller group even though that group may love 'Sci-Fi' in general.
So you have this show, for the Sci-fi/fantasy market. Audience there is 250k.
Well, it is more sci-fi than fantasy, you lose 50k (100k prefers fantasy, but there is some cross over) It is post-apocolyptic Earth (shave off 25k who prefer space sci-fi)
So now we are down to an audience of 175k from a total 250k even before we know if the story is worthwhile.
The show is ok, but not amazing (lose 50k) The show has a tough timeslot (lose 50k to another show)
Now we are down to 125k.
And back to my original point: The network realizes that a reality show spinoff could result in a starting audience of 300k, for 1/2 the production costs.
I was actually thinking of a game I played in Epcot. Simple helicopter game where it flew higher the calmer you were, but as you got stressed, it lost altitude obviously causing more stress.
The dragon's cruising along.... crap he is getting lower. Oh NO DAMN IT! It's falling. I've got to get him back up. Come on, FLY. FLY YOU GOD DAMNED DRAGON. Ahhh crap!...
Now, I've got to go load up an FPS to releave the stress I generated keeping that damned thing flying.
Just remember, they only get your hard earned cash if you break those laws. If you follow them, you'll have nothing to worry or complain about.
You must have been born yesterday, or that was a very poor attempt at sarcasm.
I've had it happen numerous times. The most 'amusing' was when my car was parked directly under a sign that said "No Parking 2am-6am" The ticket was written at 1pm. So, what do I do, on the ticket, there was no method to fight it presented. The police suggested I let the ticket go to a warrant. Basically, they were inviting me to have my car towed.
I had to take 2 days off work to get the chief of police to wipe the ticket. While I'm salary, any wage earner would have lost a significant portion of their income.
My options:
1. Pay the fine (They get my money AND I didn't break any laws). 2. Take off work and fight to get them to kill the ticket. (I lose 2 days of wages, so I lose) 3. Ignore the ticket, they boot my car and then I have to repeat the process.
Then there was the time when they towed my vehicle from in front of my house and had the gall to claim in court that the homeowner (me) reported that the vehicle had been abandoned. The judge agreed with me that I did not report my own vehicle as abandoned. Unfortunately, that only got rid of the fine. (and another lost day at work) I was out $200 for the towing, and another $150 for storage. Why was it in storage? Because I called the police to report that the car was stolen and they had no clue where it went. It took them 3 days to realize that they had it towed.
So about them only taking your hard earned cash if you broke a law? You are absolutely, dead wrong.
The Sci-fi channel has a very specific audience. It means that the only competition for advertising revenue is from other people who would advertise to that audience.
You run into a problem when trying to place a show on a large network. While the show may be very well done, the amount the network can actually charge for advertising is less because the demographic is a smaller slice of the pie. Lets say 100k people watch 'Sci-fi show' the network can only charge so much for that 100k audience. However, 'reality show B' draws in an audience of only 400k. Not a huge audience by network standards, but it completely blows the sci-fi show away in terms of advertising revenue.
But as you said, Farscape did 5 years on the Sci-fi channel. Thats because while it may not draw much of an audience, any replacement show isn't going to draw more of an audience than a sci-fi show on a sci-fi network UNLESS that show is better. (There are always exceptions of course)
It takes a 'rich kid' to bring things like this to the front more often than not.
A 'poor kid' would have never had the time/resources to fight this, he would have forked over his ID, and took it because he had to. It takes someone who has the resources to take one for the little guy so that future people won't get the same treatment. The poor kid has to worry about paying for his food/rent and can't afford to spend time defending his rights. Sadly, that's just the way it is.
Also note that this 'rich kid' had to cut it short because he wasn't rich enough to let it all play out. That should be telling.
How the hell was this AC post modded as insightful?
It's somewhat humorous, and rather sad, that whenever your sort wants to attack the ACLU without exposing your own authoritarian leanings... all you can do is criticize them for not doing enough.
'your sort'? Aren't you making a lot of assumptions about him based on a post that made no mention of his political views? He is absolutely correct in his observation that this wasn't as 'hot' of a topic for the ACLU. By 'hot' he means something that would garner media attention. The thing is, often that attention is drawn by the ACLU getting involved in the first place.
This case was important, not because of the receipt refusal, but of the police officer's reaction. Granted the ACLU doesn't have unlimited resources, but even a slight assistance on their part, even the rumor that the ACLU would get involved might make the city a little more cautious.
I'm also not quite getting the basis of the lawsuit. Can I sue the grocery store for refusing to sell me one egg?
Except in your case, the demand for 1 egg purchases is so low that it isn't sold. However, you may have noticed that some stores DO sell 6 eggs, or even 4 egg packs. The reason they do is because the cost of packaging would result in a 1 egg package that would cost more than a 6 egg package (how do you make it stand up on the shelves?) Because we are considering data streams here and not physical products that require a physical package the analogy doesn't neatly apply.
If you really wanted to make a comparison to grocery stores it would be more like this:
You want to buy eggs, but the store won't sell you eggs. They will sell you the Poultry package. It comes with Eggs, breadcrumbs, oil, chicken-breasts, a 2-litre of soda, and placemats. If you want Chips to go with your meal, you need the party package. It comes with Chips, Pretzels, Salsa, French Onion Dip, Sour Cream and Chives Dip, and napkins.
There ARE stores that sell packages (Wegmans) and people who like packages will buy them. In fact, the packages often cost more than the items a la carte (cost of preparation). Completely opposite of what the cable companies offer despite no technical requirements to do so.
Ahh I see, thanks for the clarification. Not having owned a digital briefcase, I wasn't sure about how you entered numbers and how it differed from a mechanical one.
I know of specific ancestors who boarded ships with vague notions of their destination and slim possibilities for return.
I have relatives in Brazil, for the simple fact that when they were trying to get the hell out of Eastern Europe, they jumped on the first boat they could. Some went to the US, some went to Brazil. Enough resources (or not, as some stowed away) for a one way trip.
However, there is a big difference between what was asked of them, and what the OP asked. This isn't a question of a slim chance for return, it is the 100% certainty of death measured in months.
I would say that the 100% certainty of death was what drove many people onto the ships in the first place.
Then again, what the hell am I going to do on Mars for 100 years? Unless there's slashdot. But the latency would be terrible;)
Heh, which was kind of my point. It would have to be a pretty necessary mission to require a one way trip to Mars.
Though there are some interesting things you could do on Mars if you were there, by yourself, for 100 years. For instance, you could go check out what is under that rock... or that other rock... Make some footprints in the dust, that could be fun.
My goal would probably be to go moderately insane, and send back messages of how I had organized the Martian populace and warned them about the intentions of Earth.
Can it even be a theory? There are far too many variables that are dependant on human decisions to treat this as some natural law.
It seems more like "Moore's surprisingly accurate prediction and continued observation" than Moore's law, but until I can figure out a catchy acronym I think we are stuck with Moore's law.
The implication was that it would be a relatively short time since he stated it in Months instead of Years. If the food wouldn't run out in less than 100 years, then suicide pills for lack of food wouldn't be necessary. I have a good expectation to live for another 50 years, and I expect that I can contribute more in 49 than I can in 1.
What would you need to accomplish on Earth that would make a reduction of your lifespan to a fixed 10 months worthwhile?
In my case, there are several things that are worth dying for, but fame is not one of them.
If you are interested, I wouldn't discount any degree. Especially one in Psychology. With all this talk of extended missions, having an onboard psychologist might not be too far fetched.
Good link. My degree was in computer engineering. What confuses people is when I tell them that I can't stand high-level programming. I was always more interested in the electrons than the bits.
Ever go to the IMAX movie in the Air and Space musuem where they show how you can get disoriented? Sit you in a chair with a white polkadot umbrella surrounding your field of vision and then they spin it. With the IMAX screen I always got the feeling that my chair was spinning around.
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Oh they know the question. But because of that post, we now know the answer. Thanks for ruining my vacation ideas.
If only I was laughing. I've seen firefox go over 120Mb of ram on regular occasions. I HAVE to close it if I plan on doing anything else on my laptop. Often I'm running another program that is sucking down 250-300 mb of ram so tacking on an additional 120 really isn't acceptable.
I've thought about stripping out the extentions to see if any of that helps, but it doesn't appear from this thread that they are the real issues. And if I were to strip out all the extras that I like, and end up with a browser that is slower and uses more ram than IE, why not use IE?
I'll probably check out Opera this weekend. Does anyone have any suggestions other than IE?
(And stop whining about stuff you want for free). Like cable?
I would be curious to know how much cable television would cost if it didn't allow the channels to display advertisements.
You know they messed up bigtime when people would opt to go back to IE.
The problem is that when the police make a mistake, the onus falls upon the accused. When I first ran into the problem with the parking ticket, I thought it would be a simple thing of talking with the local police department and having them say, "Yup, our goof." and tear it up.
Instead what I got was, "Yeah, our goof, the guy was in training. Just leave the ticket alone until it turns into a warrant, then you can argue your case in front of a judge." Not only is that a waste of resources for everyone involved, but it is sickening to believe that the police are so unconcerned and unmotivated to correct their mistake that they would require a trial.
In the case of the towed vehicle, it was a different jurisdiction, but the case was even more disturbing. When I went to court, there were 7 other defendants to the same charge in attendance. Each had their case thrown out (Of course, it took 4 hours to get through them all) But most of these people could barely afford rent, let alone the $500+ fine that went along with abandonment of vehicle. In the town where I lived, $500 was 2 weeks pay. For people who are very likely living paycheck to paycheck, such a fine could place them into debt, or worse.
It was the shotgun style approach of this officer (who targeted any vehicle older than 15 years) that resulted in a lot of wasted court time, a full day of work for 9 people (8 defendants and a judge) and the risk of money lost to those who couldn't afford it.
I've since moved, but repeated interactions with the police have put such a sour taste in my mouth that I'm sad to admit that my first reaction to seeing the police is one of disgust, rather than respect. It should make every police officer sad as well.
I can't even rely on the 'If you have nothing to hide' arguement. I have nothing to hide, and I still end up getting shafted. You will too.
Though my original statement was just intended to be funny, this thing seems little more than a mood ring, something that requires no active interaction. You could glance at it every 5 minutes or so and keep track of your stress, much like you would monitor your heartbeat if you were running on a treadmill. Though it does seem a bit overkill of a solution to something I didn't really know was a problem.
Though I suppose it could reduce the cost of controller replacement for those who suffer from 'Nintendo-rage'.
It seems a lot of 'fantasy' gets mislabeled as sci-fi as well. I've seen many people here on Slashdot complain that what is labeled sci-fi, isn't. So some of the networks may view those supernatural type shows as sci-fi and may even try to suggest that it may pull in the 'geek' demographic.
In the network's defense, Sci-fi and fantasy can be very segmented. While an outside observer (Network executive) may view sci-fi as one catch-all, it is quite possible to have someone love one aspect of Sci-fi, but hate another segment.
To work off a well known story, take the Hitchhiker's guide. It is Sci-fi (sort of), but also a social commentary presented with a darkish humor. Now compare that to Star Wars, which is much more Science-fantasy. Both of these get lumped into the same catch-all that is 'sci-fi'. What makes this tricky for any sci-fi show, is that you could end up fracturing your target audience to an even smaller group even though that group may love 'Sci-Fi' in general.
So you have this show, for the Sci-fi/fantasy market. Audience there is 250k.
Well, it is more sci-fi than fantasy, you lose 50k (100k prefers fantasy, but there is some cross over) It is post-apocolyptic Earth (shave off 25k who prefer space sci-fi)
So now we are down to an audience of 175k from a total 250k even before we know if the story is worthwhile.
The show is ok, but not amazing (lose 50k)
The show has a tough timeslot (lose 50k to another show)
Now we are down to 125k.
And back to my original point: The network realizes that a reality show spinoff could result in a starting audience of 300k, for 1/2 the production costs.
I was actually thinking of a game I played in Epcot. Simple helicopter game where it flew higher the calmer you were, but as you got stressed, it lost altitude obviously causing more stress.
The dragon's cruising along.... crap he is getting lower. Oh NO DAMN IT! It's falling. I've got to get him back up. Come on, FLY. FLY YOU GOD DAMNED DRAGON. Ahhh crap! ...
Now, I've got to go load up an FPS to releave the stress I generated keeping that damned thing flying.
Just remember, they only get your hard earned cash if you break those laws. If you follow them, you'll have nothing to worry or complain about.
You must have been born yesterday, or that was a very poor attempt at sarcasm.
I've had it happen numerous times. The most 'amusing' was when my car was parked directly under a sign that said "No Parking 2am-6am" The ticket was written at 1pm. So, what do I do, on the ticket, there was no method to fight it presented. The police suggested I let the ticket go to a warrant. Basically, they were inviting me to have my car towed.
I had to take 2 days off work to get the chief of police to wipe the ticket. While I'm salary, any wage earner would have lost a significant portion of their income.
My options:
1. Pay the fine (They get my money AND I didn't break any laws).
2. Take off work and fight to get them to kill the ticket. (I lose 2 days of wages, so I lose)
3. Ignore the ticket, they boot my car and then I have to repeat the process.
Then there was the time when they towed my vehicle from in front of my house and had the gall to claim in court that the homeowner (me) reported that the vehicle had been abandoned. The judge agreed with me that I did not report my own vehicle as abandoned. Unfortunately, that only got rid of the fine. (and another lost day at work) I was out $200 for the towing, and another $150 for storage. Why was it in storage? Because I called the police to report that the car was stolen and they had no clue where it went. It took them 3 days to realize that they had it towed.
So about them only taking your hard earned cash if you broke a law? You are absolutely, dead wrong.
The Sci-fi channel has a very specific audience. It means that the only competition for advertising revenue is from other people who would advertise to that audience.
You run into a problem when trying to place a show on a large network. While the show may be very well done, the amount the network can actually charge for advertising is less because the demographic is a smaller slice of the pie. Lets say 100k people watch 'Sci-fi show' the network can only charge so much for that 100k audience. However, 'reality show B' draws in an audience of only 400k. Not a huge audience by network standards, but it completely blows the sci-fi show away in terms of advertising revenue.
But as you said, Farscape did 5 years on the Sci-fi channel. Thats because while it may not draw much of an audience, any replacement show isn't going to draw more of an audience than a sci-fi show on a sci-fi network UNLESS that show is better. (There are always exceptions of course)
It takes a 'rich kid' to bring things like this to the front more often than not.
A 'poor kid' would have never had the time/resources to fight this, he would have forked over his ID, and took it because he had to. It takes someone who has the resources to take one for the little guy so that future people won't get the same treatment. The poor kid has to worry about paying for his food/rent and can't afford to spend time defending his rights. Sadly, that's just the way it is.
Also note that this 'rich kid' had to cut it short because he wasn't rich enough to let it all play out. That should be telling.
How the hell was this AC post modded as insightful?
It's somewhat humorous, and rather sad, that whenever your sort wants to attack the ACLU without exposing your own authoritarian leanings... all you can do is criticize them for not doing enough.
'your sort'? Aren't you making a lot of assumptions about him based on a post that made no mention of his political views? He is absolutely correct in his observation that this wasn't as 'hot' of a topic for the ACLU. By 'hot' he means something that would garner media attention. The thing is, often that attention is drawn by the ACLU getting involved in the first place.
This case was important, not because of the receipt refusal, but of the police officer's reaction. Granted the ACLU doesn't have unlimited resources, but even a slight assistance on their part, even the rumor that the ACLU would get involved might make the city a little more cautious.
I'm also not quite getting the basis of the lawsuit. Can I sue the grocery store for refusing to sell me one egg?
Except in your case, the demand for 1 egg purchases is so low that it isn't sold. However, you may have noticed that some stores DO sell 6 eggs, or even 4 egg packs. The reason they do is because the cost of packaging would result in a 1 egg package that would cost more than a 6 egg package (how do you make it stand up on the shelves?) Because we are considering data streams here and not physical products that require a physical package the analogy doesn't neatly apply.
If you really wanted to make a comparison to grocery stores it would be more like this:
You want to buy eggs, but the store won't sell you eggs. They will sell you the Poultry package. It comes with Eggs, breadcrumbs, oil, chicken-breasts, a 2-litre of soda, and placemats. If you want Chips to go with your meal, you need the party package. It comes with Chips, Pretzels, Salsa, French Onion Dip, Sour Cream and Chives Dip, and napkins.
There ARE stores that sell packages (Wegmans) and people who like packages will buy them. In fact, the packages often cost more than the items a la carte (cost of preparation). Completely opposite of what the cable companies offer despite no technical requirements to do so.
Ahh I see, thanks for the clarification. Not having owned a digital briefcase, I wasn't sure about how you entered numbers and how it differed from a mechanical one.
And I'm probably overlooking the obvious, but how is that possible? Is there something like a specific order the numbers have to be entered in?
I know of specific ancestors who boarded ships with vague notions of their destination and slim possibilities for return.
I have relatives in Brazil, for the simple fact that when they were trying to get the hell out of Eastern Europe, they jumped on the first boat they could. Some went to the US, some went to Brazil. Enough resources (or not, as some stowed away) for a one way trip.
However, there is a big difference between what was asked of them, and what the OP asked. This isn't a question of a slim chance for return, it is the 100% certainty of death measured in months.
I would say that the 100% certainty of death was what drove many people onto the ships in the first place.
Day 45: All he does is write in that little notebook. Why Why Why who. No. ...
...
Day 75: I think Dr. Evers knows about my connection with the galactic federal space donkeys. Operation F. Y. C. may have to be accelerated.
Day 83: Mishnog's suggestion to use the vacuum of space to preserve the meat was a success!
Then again, what the hell am I going to do on Mars for 100 years? Unless there's slashdot. ;)
But the latency would be terrible
Heh, which was kind of my point. It would have to be a pretty necessary mission to require a one way trip to Mars.
Though there are some interesting things you could do on Mars if you were there, by yourself, for 100 years. For instance, you could go check out what is under that rock... or that other rock... Make some footprints in the dust, that could be fun.
My goal would probably be to go moderately insane, and send back messages of how I had organized the Martian populace and warned them about the intentions of Earth.
Can it even be a theory? There are far too many variables that are dependant on human decisions to treat this as some natural law.
It seems more like "Moore's surprisingly accurate prediction and continued observation" than Moore's law, but until I can figure out a catchy acronym I think we are stuck with Moore's law.
The implication was that it would be a relatively short time since he stated it in Months instead of Years. If the food wouldn't run out in less than 100 years, then suicide pills for lack of food wouldn't be necessary. I have a good expectation to live for another 50 years, and I expect that I can contribute more in 49 than I can in 1.
What would you need to accomplish on Earth that would make a reduction of your lifespan to a fixed 10 months worthwhile?
In my case, there are several things that are worth dying for, but fame is not one of them.
If you are interested, I wouldn't discount any degree. Especially one in Psychology. With all this talk of extended missions, having an onboard psychologist might not be too far fetched.
Good link. My degree was in computer engineering. What confuses people is when I tell them that I can't stand high-level programming. I was always more interested in the electrons than the bits.
Ever go to the IMAX movie in the Air and Space musuem where they show how you can get disoriented? Sit you in a chair with a white polkadot umbrella surrounding your field of vision and then they spin it. With the IMAX screen I always got the feeling that my chair was spinning around.
Most people don't actually understand that Color blindness is very rare, and that what people refer to is more often, a color recognition deficiency.
It was a pain in the ass for me at the Academy, most people would look at me as if I had the plague when they found out I was 'Color Blind'.
"Why did you even join the Air Force?".
People seem to forget that missiles don't need pilots.