"Possible" is the key word there. I'm sure that a human will review all possible violations, to determine if one actually occurred. I imagine that this could allow for better policing, because less people would need to be hired for less work, allowing police to use their time more effectively.
Sir, you and I must have a vastly different definition for 'better'.
(And do you really think that this would allow the police to be more effective? They will become just as effective as necessary to raise enough fines to cover their budgets, and if we are lucky, just their budgets and not revenue)
Good luck with that. So, if I am in public I should expect that anything I do not be recorded, talked about or written about? I do not know how you expect to enforce that.
You should have some expectation of privacy because we need to have SOME privacy in order to function as human beings. Generally the expectation goes back to what you would feel comfortable with if it were performed by a physical person. And I'm certain that if it were somehow possible to assign a person to follow and document every move, and action for every person in the US we might have a slight problem with that.
We run into a hell of a lot of trouble when we allow our standard definition of privacy which involved 1800s methods to be applied to our current level of technology.
The basic problem is this:
As technology improves, our expectation for privacy decreases. So using expectation of privacy as the measure for what should or should not be private is a HORRIBLE practice. It essentially means that as a technology or practice becomes ubiquitous, it becomes acceptable.
Since we have no means to resist an application of technology*, I urge everyone to dump this 'yardstick'.
*In practice, you do not get to opt-in or opt-out of having a privacy invading practice applied to you. It IS applied, and then you have the option to petition against it's application. Often, you don't even know that your privacy is being violated for years. As a result, these practices become common before the first complaint can even reasonably be raised. Even then, this ignores the issue of having previous complaints dismissed by judges who are ignorant in the field of the technology being discussed.
My personal tastes tend to be about 20-50IBU (International Bitterness Units), which excludes most Pilsners (after Pilsen, originally in Bohemia, now Czech) and IPAs, which hopheads love. I still like to mix it up and try lots of oddities. My wife prefers schwartzbier (black beer) - preferably Köstritzer (and I drive 25 miles to a specialty store to get it, which is why I often end up with a bunch of oddities to try, as well), but New Belgium's 1554 will do in a pinch.
There was a big problem for me in the USA for a while, it seemed like every microbrewery was trying to 'outHop' each other and the result was, for people who don't care for the high bitterness, rather worrisome.
this is exactly what I have done. I am using it now actually. You dont even need a real smartphone, I use a samsung impulse. You DO need to run ubuntu (10.4 works best) and have bluetooth on your netbook and phone. Then you just install bluetooth-manager and it is just a wizard away. I can even create a wifi hotspot to let my friends on. This works so well and I am now so dependent on it that I no longer have the choice to go back to windows(as if I EVER would) There is just nothing that compares to this on windows.
What are you talking about? I do that right now using XP with my phone tethered via bluetooth. Although I also do it via 802.11 or usb.
Then again, I have years more experience with Windows, and got tired of having to tweak so much with Linux. I suppose if I had similar levels of experience with Ubuntu it might be easier for me there, but to imply that you can't do that on Windows just seems fanboyish.
Or am I doing something impossible? If so, I guess I might as well round it off at Milliways.
Well a *fully laden* train works at around 1.6 kWh per 100 passenger-km versus a bike at 1 kWh per 100 person-km. So pretty close if the train is operating at maximum efficiency.
My point was that there is so much that can go into determining 'greenness' that EVERYTHING can be considered more green than something else if you pick the right criteria.
I wasn't really discussing Trains vs Bicycles but rather just hating the term 'green'.
True. Good luck getting your thousand impulse purchases. It seems that those early wild success tales we hear out of iPhone-land are much more the exception than the rule...
No doubt, but is the situation any different for the Blackberry phones? You may have less competition, but you also have less purchasing taking place.
(on a side note, it would be wonderful if the App-Store had any sort of usable interface)
The anthropomorphism of "nature" and placing in it an adversarial role with humans is very... Disneyesque. And much like Creationism, it is a not a good vector from which to deal with management of natural resources and legislation.
Anthropomorphising nature however, is sometimes the most illustrative (how disneyesque itself) way of explaining the reality to someone and expressing potential consequences.
For example: Nature doesn't have any legs, nor does it care if I built a house in a flood plain along the Mississippi River. But I can think of no more succinct and apt way to describe the potential consequences than saying, 'Nature is going to kick my ass'.
Well... AT&T's cost per Gigabyte certainly sold me... on NOT buying a crippled smartphone with roughly 5GB a month and they want $30 for those few GB. The cost/benefit tradeoff isn't there.
If you are only looking for volume/$ then yeah, it does suck when compared with other options. However for someone like me who is looking at it from a different metric Mobility+Availability/$ then it becomes MUCH more interesting.
I needed something to provide me with access, not necessarily volume, in as many geographical locations as possible. Signing up with a wifi network like iBahn wasn't really going to help me since that's pretty much limited to some airports and hotels. The ability to access the internet almost anywhere I could also receive a phone signal was a hell of a lot better.
I agree, if what you need is volume, then that $30 is a huge ripoff. But when what you need is access and mobility there really is no substitute.
(Hell, people pay $12/month for satellite radio and that gives less than something like Last.fm, Pandora, etc. so the cost isn't that far off considering how much more you can do with the data plan)
Its another application where people don't understand the inverse square law, no matter how many times its explained, much like the bee vs cell phones article. And even my slowpoke Cessna 172 flew about 2 miles a minute.
The power level needed to knock out instruments for a minute is staggering, in theory. In practice, looking at the actual specs of air force ECM machinery, it is in practice staggering.
Turning the entire HV power line into a spark gap transmitter might screw stuff up for a couple hundred feet range, maybe.
I'm not talking about you keying up a phone and having your instrumentation crap out, I'm talking about having someone use a knockoff phone and shift your needle 1/2 a degree. I'm talking about that piece of cheap non-flight critical equipment that resets when someone keys a P25 radio (Don't worry, we caught that, but the test house they used missed it on the original pass)
These aren't things that would cause a plane to fall out of the sky, not by a longshot, but they are things that you generally want to minimize. There are so many pieces of consumer electronics coming to market each year that it simply isn't possible to test how they all would behave on an aircraft. So we say to ourselves, "It probably won't do anything, but why don't we just be a little cautious and take a 10 minute break from using our electronic devices".
If only to keep the pilot from having to ask something twice as a cheap transmitter steps on a transmission.
Actually the Abrahamic religions (Christianity, Judaism, Islam) assume an omniscient creator, which rules out #4. #4 is akin to deism, but in that philosophy, there is a predetermined outcome to the universe set by the creator
Or a diety that behaves as if he were not omniscient. The "Has already seen the movie before you, might guide you to, or away from one, but doesn't give spoilers" kind of diety.
BTW, Tron Legacy missed(s) the mark, just thought you should know.
The "greenness" of a train doesn't come close to the "greenness" of a bike. It's not even within an order of magnitude... probably not even within two.
Of course it's off. You are taking a blanket term which really means everything and therefore nothing and trying to use it in a comparison.
What does your 'greenness' definition cover?
Probability to remove a vehicle from the road, probability to decrease the duration of congested traffic periods?, manufacturing costs, support infrastructure, aesthetic impact, air quality improvements, net impact on arable land availability, housing costs, quality of life, noise pollution,...
So what are you using to determine your 'orders of magnitude'?
I'm sure you would just love to have a teenager yapping it up for a whole 3 hour ride next to you, after the 5th OMG and like about 20 likes I bet you would pray for the days with no cell phones on planes.
Earplugs are amazing things. They have the primary benefit of blocking out ALL of the things you are complaining about, but they also have the secondary benefit of telling the person next to you that you are not interested in a conversation. You act as if someone can't just start yapping your ear off if they don't have access to a phone.
Legislating social behavior is not the way we should approach the problem. What's more intrusive and time consuming? Bringing a pair of earplugs, or having to support/fight a political campaign every time someone gets an 'idea' over how you should behave in a given situation?
Not sure this is the reason for cell phone bans but as a result I don't have to hear the person next to me or somewhere in the cabin talk on the phone the whole flight
If it's so important to you that you need this level of control over the behavior of the people sitting near you then perhaps you shouldn't have left home.
I, personally, feel that, if you are in a small aircraft, maybe you shouldn't be using an ipod/ipad anyway...
Generally, small electronics are more a nuisance than an electrical risk, and should, as such, be banned from any aircraft smaller than 25 passengers, if only for annoyance purposes...
Maybe we shouldn't be so worried about what we feel other people should be doing with their own time?
I drew a dinosaur - therefore they still exist Oo O Oooo O O O OO o o oo
Consider the implications of someone drawing a picture that showed Saturn (with rings) 1000 years ago.
Of course, I'm sure you would have also invented all those 'obvious' inventions as well had you lived 200 years ago. Don't ignore the benefit of hindsight.
More accurately, they aren't to do with the plane's safety. There is still an argument that using electronic devices keeps you from paying attention to the flight attendants' instructions. I don't believe that one, but since most people under the age of 25 or so seem to have those stupid iBuds stuffed in their ears at all times, perhaps it has some merit.
Most earbuds block less sound than foam earplugs and they don't ask us to remove them.
If a flight attendant really needed our attention on a plane, chances are the situation would be quite evident. You are already supposed to be buckled up in case of sudden turbulence, and in the event of a emergency where you would have to leave your seat, people aren't going to be more distracted by their MP3s.
I just have to wonder if the standard rates for 'luxury-IT' will apply. You know the rates, they are so high that for physical items, you are reaching the point where you can just buy the item at retail and then sell it on Ebay and still do better. The price for 'consumable' services will be so high that even though they have scared off most of their potential customers, that one guy who either doesn't care, or has to buy it makes up the cost for the hundreds who were driven off by the price.
Yes, I'm also talking about you Marriott, and your $14/day internet access charges. For anything more than a week I could go buy a data card and plan from a cell carrier.
Perhaps I'm just a bit bitter, but I am getting damned tired of people pricing 'IT' services in the same tier as high end luxury goods.
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"Possible" is the key word there. I'm sure that a human will review all possible violations, to determine if one actually occurred. I imagine that this could allow for better policing, because less people would need to be hired for less work, allowing police to use their time more effectively.
Sir, you and I must have a vastly different definition for 'better'.
(And do you really think that this would allow the police to be more effective? They will become just as effective as necessary to raise enough fines to cover their budgets, and if we are lucky, just their budgets and not revenue)
Good luck with that. So, if I am in public I should expect that anything I do not be recorded, talked about or written about? I do not know how you expect to enforce that.
You should have some expectation of privacy because we need to have SOME privacy in order to function as human beings. Generally the expectation goes back to what you would feel comfortable with if it were performed by a physical person. And I'm certain that if it were somehow possible to assign a person to follow and document every move, and action for every person in the US we might have a slight problem with that.
We run into a hell of a lot of trouble when we allow our standard definition of privacy which involved 1800s methods to be applied to our current level of technology.
The basic problem is this:
As technology improves, our expectation for privacy decreases. So using expectation of privacy as the measure for what should or should not be private is a HORRIBLE practice. It essentially means that as a technology or practice becomes ubiquitous, it becomes acceptable.
Since we have no means to resist an application of technology*, I urge everyone to dump this 'yardstick'.
*In practice, you do not get to opt-in or opt-out of having a privacy invading practice applied to you. It IS applied, and then you have the option to petition against it's application. Often, you don't even know that your privacy is being violated for years. As a result, these practices become common before the first complaint can even reasonably be raised. Even then, this ignores the issue of having previous complaints dismissed by judges who are ignorant in the field of the technology being discussed.
My personal tastes tend to be about 20-50IBU (International Bitterness Units), which excludes most Pilsners (after Pilsen, originally in Bohemia, now Czech) and IPAs, which hopheads love. I still like to mix it up and try lots of oddities. My wife prefers schwartzbier (black beer) - preferably Köstritzer (and I drive 25 miles to a specialty store to get it, which is why I often end up with a bunch of oddities to try, as well), but New Belgium's 1554 will do in a pinch.
There was a big problem for me in the USA for a while, it seemed like every microbrewery was trying to 'outHop' each other and the result was, for people who don't care for the high bitterness, rather worrisome.
Thankfully that trend has tapered off a bit.
after we've killed off a bunch of them.
How can you be so calm when this study alone just wiped out an estimated 94.5% of all species on Earth?
this is exactly what I have done. I am using it now actually. You dont even need a real smartphone, I use a samsung impulse. You DO need to run ubuntu (10.4 works best) and have bluetooth on your netbook and phone. Then you just install bluetooth-manager and it is just a wizard away. I can even create a wifi hotspot to let my friends on. This works so well and I am now so dependent on it that I no longer have the choice to go back to windows(as if I EVER would) There is just nothing that compares to this on windows.
What are you talking about? I do that right now using XP with my phone tethered via bluetooth. Although I also do it via 802.11 or usb.
Then again, I have years more experience with Windows, and got tired of having to tweak so much with Linux. I suppose if I had similar levels of experience with Ubuntu it might be easier for me there, but to imply that you can't do that on Windows just seems fanboyish.
Or am I doing something impossible? If so, I guess I might as well round it off at Milliways.
Well a *fully laden* train works at around 1.6 kWh per 100 passenger-km versus a bike at 1 kWh per 100 person-km. So pretty close if the train is operating at maximum efficiency.
My point was that there is so much that can go into determining 'greenness' that EVERYTHING can be considered more green than something else if you pick the right criteria.
I wasn't really discussing Trains vs Bicycles but rather just hating the term 'green'.
(nice information tidbit there though, thanks!)
True. Good luck getting your thousand impulse purchases. It seems that those early wild success tales we hear out of iPhone-land are much more the exception than the rule...
No doubt, but is the situation any different for the Blackberry phones? You may have less competition, but you also have less purchasing taking place.
(on a side note, it would be wonderful if the App-Store had any sort of usable interface)
The anthropomorphism of "nature" and placing in it an adversarial role with humans is very... Disneyesque.
And much like Creationism, it is a not a good vector from which to deal with management of natural resources and legislation.
Anthropomorphising nature however, is sometimes the most illustrative (how disneyesque itself) way of explaining the reality to someone and expressing potential consequences.
For example: Nature doesn't have any legs, nor does it care if I built a house in a flood plain along the Mississippi River. But I can think of no more succinct and apt way to describe the potential consequences than saying, 'Nature is going to kick my ass'.
Well... AT&T's cost per Gigabyte certainly sold me... on NOT buying a crippled smartphone with roughly 5GB a month and they want $30 for those few GB. The cost/benefit tradeoff isn't there.
If you are only looking for volume/$ then yeah, it does suck when compared with other options. However for someone like me who is looking at it from a different metric Mobility+Availability/$ then it becomes MUCH more interesting.
I needed something to provide me with access, not necessarily volume, in as many geographical locations as possible. Signing up with a wifi network like iBahn wasn't really going to help me since that's pretty much limited to some airports and hotels. The ability to access the internet almost anywhere I could also receive a phone signal was a hell of a lot better.
I agree, if what you need is volume, then that $30 is a huge ripoff. But when what you need is access and mobility there really is no substitute.
(Hell, people pay $12/month for satellite radio and that gives less than something like Last.fm, Pandora, etc. so the cost isn't that far off considering how much more you can do with the data plan)
Fairly sure it'd be pretty hard to smoke beer.
Rauchbier
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoked_beer
It's not an everyday sort of beer, but goes great with some meals.
And....... it doesn't.
Its another application where people don't understand the inverse square law, no matter how many times its explained, much like the bee vs cell phones article. And even my slowpoke Cessna 172 flew about 2 miles a minute.
The power level needed to knock out instruments for a minute is staggering, in theory. In practice, looking at the actual specs of air force ECM machinery, it is in practice staggering.
Turning the entire HV power line into a spark gap transmitter might screw stuff up for a couple hundred feet range, maybe.
I'm not talking about you keying up a phone and having your instrumentation crap out, I'm talking about having someone use a knockoff phone and shift your needle 1/2 a degree. I'm talking about that piece of cheap non-flight critical equipment that resets when someone keys a P25 radio (Don't worry, we caught that, but the test house they used missed it on the original pass)
These aren't things that would cause a plane to fall out of the sky, not by a longshot, but they are things that you generally want to minimize. There are so many pieces of consumer electronics coming to market each year that it simply isn't possible to test how they all would behave on an aircraft. So we say to ourselves, "It probably won't do anything, but why don't we just be a little cautious and take a 10 minute break from using our electronic devices".
If only to keep the pilot from having to ask something twice as a cheap transmitter steps on a transmission.
Did I mention the studies showing that BB users are willing to pay more for their apps?
1,000 impulse purchases at $2.99 is more money than 100 carefully considered purchases at $15.
Actually the Abrahamic religions (Christianity, Judaism, Islam) assume an omniscient creator, which rules out #4. #4 is akin to deism, but in that philosophy, there is a predetermined outcome to the universe set by the creator
Or a diety that behaves as if he were not omniscient. The "Has already seen the movie before you, might guide you to, or away from one, but doesn't give spoilers" kind of diety.
BTW, Tron Legacy missed(s) the mark, just thought you should know.
The "greenness" of a train doesn't come close to the "greenness" of a bike. It's not even within an order of magnitude... probably not even within two.
Of course it's off. You are taking a blanket term which really means everything and therefore nothing and trying to use it in a comparison.
What does your 'greenness' definition cover?
Probability to remove a vehicle from the road, probability to decrease the duration of congested traffic periods?, manufacturing costs, support infrastructure, aesthetic impact, air quality improvements, net impact on arable land availability, housing costs, quality of life, noise pollution,...
So what are you using to determine your 'orders of magnitude'?
I'm sure you would just love to have a teenager yapping it up for a whole 3 hour ride next to you, after the 5th OMG and like about 20 likes I bet you would pray for the days with no cell phones on planes.
Earplugs are amazing things. They have the primary benefit of blocking out ALL of the things you are complaining about, but they also have the secondary benefit of telling the person next to you that you are not interested in a conversation. You act as if someone can't just start yapping your ear off if they don't have access to a phone.
Legislating social behavior is not the way we should approach the problem. What's more intrusive and time consuming? Bringing a pair of earplugs, or having to support/fight a political campaign every time someone gets an 'idea' over how you should behave in a given situation?
Not sure this is the reason for cell phone bans but as a result I don't have to hear the person next to me or somewhere in the cabin talk on the phone the whole flight
If it's so important to you that you need this level of control over the behavior of the people sitting near you then perhaps you shouldn't have left home.
I, personally, feel that, if you are in a small aircraft, maybe you shouldn't be using an ipod/ipad anyway...
Generally, small electronics are more a nuisance than an electrical risk, and should, as such, be banned from any aircraft smaller than 25 passengers, if only for annoyance purposes...
Maybe we shouldn't be so worried about what we feel other people should be doing with their own time?
Yeah, that's why I don't believe it. It's a small space, if something was THAT wrong, you'd know.
And if not, I'd want to know the name of the band that's so good that it can keep me distracted during a plane crash.
Let's leave the kiddie metal to Metallicock, and leave us old duffers alone to enjoy the mighty AC/DC.
Wait, you make a comment like that and you claim that YOU are the mature one?
Great plan. I'm sure you'll get a great cell signal at 30,000 feet over the middle of an ocean.
What the hell kind of kickass hotel are you staying at that flys at 30k feet ASL?
Hint: He might have been planning an alternative to Marriott's high data rates.
Humorously, no. You inspect HV power lines with a Cessna or a helicopter, not a fully loaded 747.
You also are doing the inspection on VFR days, so if VOR gets screwed up it's not that big of a deal.
I drew a dinosaur - therefore they still exist Oo O Oooo O O O OO o o oo
Consider the implications of someone drawing a picture that showed Saturn (with rings) 1000 years ago.
Of course, I'm sure you would have also invented all those 'obvious' inventions as well had you lived 200 years ago. Don't ignore the benefit of hindsight.
More accurately, they aren't to do with the plane's safety. There is still an argument that using electronic devices keeps you from paying attention to the flight attendants' instructions. I don't believe that one, but since most people under the age of 25 or so seem to have those stupid iBuds stuffed in their ears at all times, perhaps it has some merit.
Most earbuds block less sound than foam earplugs and they don't ask us to remove them.
If a flight attendant really needed our attention on a plane, chances are the situation would be quite evident. You are already supposed to be buckled up in case of sudden turbulence, and in the event of a emergency where you would have to leave your seat, people aren't going to be more distracted by their MP3s.
I just have to wonder if the standard rates for 'luxury-IT' will apply. You know the rates, they are so high that for physical items, you are reaching the point where you can just buy the item at retail and then sell it on Ebay and still do better. The price for 'consumable' services will be so high that even though they have scared off most of their potential customers, that one guy who either doesn't care, or has to buy it makes up the cost for the hundreds who were driven off by the price.
Yes, I'm also talking about you Marriott, and your $14/day internet access charges. For anything more than a week I could go buy a data card and plan from a cell carrier.
Perhaps I'm just a bit bitter, but I am getting damned tired of people pricing 'IT' services in the same tier as high end luxury goods.
The big hurdle would be the CP.
I don't know where to get it, and I don't want to know.