Yup, you're right. Commercial fishing has always been a business of finite duration. Ask the Atlantic cod fishermen. (Oh, wait, the fish are all gone). Here in New Zealand we have a pretty good system of regulating commercial fishing, but the stocks are still going down. The only way we'll ever be rid of commercial fishing is through commercial extiction of fish species. Personally I'm cheering for the jellyfish.
You are right about revolutions not always fixing problems, but that doesn't mean there won't be one in the US. Eventually people have no choice but rebel against a corrupt system. It seems to be the only way of getting those in charge to take notice. Doesn't mean things will get better of course.
I, Robot was probably the first grown-up science fiction I ever read, and gave me a life-long love of the genre. This will feel like a betrayal to me, and I for one will not buy or read them. They won't be as awful as that bloody Will Smith movie of a few years ago. (Someone reassure me). I was so excited when I heard it was coming out, it was almost like the feeling (in 1980) when a new Star Wars movie was released. Instead we got a stupid sub-Terminator action flick. Bah!
This is a terrific post. AdamD1 has thought about this before posting, and then organised his thoughts very well, but he's missing a very clue here. He says he is confused about a couple of decisions the labels have made, which is a fair comment, unless you remember that the people running these businesses are reasonably stupid. The internet has been available as a distribution channels to these dickwads for more than 10 years, and they have either ignored it, tried to litigate against it, bribed politicians to make it go away, or produced some half-arsed attempted to use it. The people who run the music business just don't really know what they're doing. Yes, yes there's been an awful lot of money made over the last 40 years or so, but times have changed, and the big labels have no clue what to do next.
I think the answer to your question is quite obvious, (although its a fair question to ask). Of course not. The entertainment cartel are not interested in what their customers want, I don't really think the music business really knows much about their customers either. This will be doomed to failure due to price or DRM or a lack of interoperability, or a combination of the above. It does however give the entertainment cartel another chace to complain to various law makers about how piracy is killing their business, and get some more restrictive laws passed.
Yes, and the same Criminal Justice system can be used to prosecute copyright infringers. Of course in a sane world copyright infringment would be a civil matter. Murder is illegal, and no new laws are needed, HalAtWork was making the same point about copyright.
On the authority of the holy Bible! The Bible claims to be God's Word, inspired human writers wrote down what God told him to write.
Even by human standards the Bible is a very unusual book. Actually it is a collection of 66 books penned by 40 different writers over a time span of at least 1500 years. Yet it has a very unified central authorship and message concerning the dealings of a God with mankind. Much of it depicts human history written down before it ever took place. Some of this history, written in advance, is taking place right before our very eyes in our time. We can read the content of tomorrow's newspaper headlines in some of the passages of the Bible.
For thousands of years, all human writing had to be laboriously copied by hand. When the art of printing was finally invented by Some Chinese Guy, guess which human writing was first printed? (Some Chinese text) Guess which human writing is distributed more widely than any other and translated into more languages and dialects than any other? Guess which book its enemies have endeavored to destroy more than any other? There are many religious writings, but none of them come even remotely close to the content and distribution of this remarkable book.
I personally believe that Jesus Christ is who he claimed to be, namely the son of God come in the flesh, in order to rescue human beings and give them life. He proved this by rising from the dead and promises to all who believe in him that they too will rise from the dead.
So, the point seems to be that the system's broke, but as the rule makers get to profit, it won't get fixed. I have read no real comment on the fact that a former head of the Nasdaq is a crook, beyond the mere mention of the fact. Remarkable.
*sigh* Sad isn't it? There you are, faithfully buying the music of your favourite band, and then enjoying it in whatever way suits you when you run headlong into Corporate Greed and Stupidity. That's pretty much why DRM will never work. What you want is pretty much in direct oppposition to what EMI (in this case) wants.
Seems to me that you're just as likely to achieve enlightenment looking at porn as any other way. In the west we tend to think of Buddists as being somehow peaceful, because that nice Mr. Dalai Lama is so, well, nice. When it comes right down to it though Buddism is just as expoitative as any other religious cult. Just because lots of people believe something don't make it so.
http://www.buddhistchannel.tv/index.php?id=52,1731,0,0,1,0http://www.mathaba.net/0_index.shtml?x=559110
The above links are just a couple of cases of people being a**holes. What fairy tales they profess to believe in makes no odds.
None of this is really all that shocking. The American Government is no longer "for the people, of the people, by the people", it is now a money making venture for the participants. This of course means that those that have the means and the will to pay for the legislation they what, get it. You Americans need to understand that you don't live in a democracy any more, and you haven't for quite a while. Your system of Government needs a complete overhaul, and unfortunately to get it, people will have to die. This is just a fact of history, it has happened before, and will (no doubt) happen again.
I'm sure you're right about that. If there's one thing we can learn from history, its that the rich always stay on top. The point really is that America was founded as a new system of government, and was radical in the 18th century, but with the passage of more than two hundred years without any real reform, that system has become old and tired, and does not serve the people any more. The wealthy of America (the corporations and their owners) are grabbing such a huge percentage of the nations wealth for themselves that there is not enough left for anyone else. The middle class will only stand being screwed for so long before they rebel. It'll be along wait I'm sure, but eventually some thing has to give.
No, there's no one in Washington that is not bought and paid for. They're all corrupt, and the sooner the avaerage American realises this and revolts, the better off the world will be.
Quite right. The American people will continue to get the same treatment from their Government as long as they continue to let the moneyed interests co-op the politicians. If there is no reform of your entire political system, eventually there will be revolution. There will have to be, as the politicians will not reform a system that anables them to get rich, and the corporations won't press for reform, as they're the ones benefitting. I guess that once the middle class is squeezed too hard they'll be forced to rebel. It'll take blood to change anything. Its a shame, but America was founded in blood.
The idea that America was settled by malcontents escaping oppression is a long standing myth that seems to be widely believed (in america anyway). Some of the Pilgrims were religious extremists, but the vast majority of settlers what we would call economic refugees, just looking for a better life. Even during the War of Independence, many Americans thought of themselves as British, and did not want to split with the Empire at all. They just wanted fairness in taxation.
In reply to your sidenote: I have no thoughts on why people leave rather than work to change the system, but the reasons you mentioned seem pretty good ones to me. I am also sure that the US is nearly ready for another Civil War. One will certainly happen within the next generation or so, unless the political and economic system are changed radically. You cannot continue with the corrupt system you have, and expect people to just accept it forever.
The real problem here is that the USA is no longer a democracy, and hasn't been for some time. This administration just happens to be the first to really take advantage of the fact that a tiny minority of Americans vote, and those that do vote selfishly. There might be howls of protest from some, but none the less, the facts bear me out. Check out what percentage of the total voter pool Bush won with last time around.
Not much will change as long as the ignorant voting public continue to either swallow the crap they're fed, or ignore it.
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More proof of who the US Government really works for. Here's a clue. If you're not a wealthy corporation, its not you.
Oh, right. Yeah, um I get it. So.... what you're saying is: God did it
Yup, you're right. Commercial fishing has always been a business of finite duration. Ask the Atlantic cod fishermen. (Oh, wait, the fish are all gone). Here in New Zealand we have a pretty good system of regulating commercial fishing, but the stocks are still going down. The only way we'll ever be rid of commercial fishing is through commercial extiction of fish species. Personally I'm cheering for the jellyfish.
You are right about revolutions not always fixing problems, but that doesn't mean there won't be one in the US. Eventually people have no choice but rebel against a corrupt system. It seems to be the only way of getting those in charge to take notice. Doesn't mean things will get better of course.
I, Robot was probably the first grown-up science fiction I ever read, and gave me a life-long love of the genre. This will feel like a betrayal to me, and I for one will not buy or read them. They won't be as awful as that bloody Will Smith movie of a few years ago. (Someone reassure me). I was so excited when I heard it was coming out, it was almost like the feeling (in 1980) when a new Star Wars movie was released. Instead we got a stupid sub-Terminator action flick. Bah!
This is a terrific post. AdamD1 has thought about this before posting, and then organised his thoughts very well, but he's missing a very clue here. He says he is confused about a couple of decisions the labels have made, which is a fair comment, unless you remember that the people running these businesses are reasonably stupid. The internet has been available as a distribution channels to these dickwads for more than 10 years, and they have either ignored it, tried to litigate against it, bribed politicians to make it go away, or produced some half-arsed attempted to use it. The people who run the music business just don't really know what they're doing. Yes, yes there's been an awful lot of money made over the last 40 years or so, but times have changed, and the big labels have no clue what to do next.
I think the answer to your question is quite obvious, (although its a fair question to ask). Of course not. The entertainment cartel are not interested in what their customers want, I don't really think the music business really knows much about their customers either. This will be doomed to failure due to price or DRM or a lack of interoperability, or a combination of the above. It does however give the entertainment cartel another chace to complain to various law makers about how piracy is killing their business, and get some more restrictive laws passed.
Yes, and the same Criminal Justice system can be used to prosecute copyright infringers. Of course in a sane world copyright infringment would be a civil matter. Murder is illegal, and no new laws are needed, HalAtWork was making the same point about copyright.
...What authority would that be?.....
On the authority of the holy Bible! The Bible claims to be God's Word, inspired human writers wrote down what God told him to write.
Even by human standards the Bible is a very unusual book. Actually it is a collection of 66 books penned by 40 different writers over a time span of at least 1500 years. Yet it has a very unified central authorship and message concerning the dealings of a God with mankind. Much of it depicts human history written down before it ever took place. Some of this history, written in advance, is taking place right before our very eyes in our time. We can read the content of tomorrow's newspaper headlines in some of the passages of the Bible.
For thousands of years, all human writing had to be laboriously copied by hand. When the art of printing was finally invented by Some Chinese Guy, guess which human writing was first printed? (Some Chinese text) Guess which human writing is distributed more widely than any other and translated into more languages and dialects than any other? Guess which book its enemies have endeavored to destroy more than any other? There are many religious writings, but none of them come even remotely close to the content and distribution of this remarkable book.
I personally believe that Jesus Christ is who he claimed to be, namely the son of God come in the flesh, in order to rescue human beings and give them life. He proved this by rising from the dead and promises to all who believe in him that they too will rise from the dead.
There, fixed that for you.
Oh, well said sir. Your second paragraph is right on the money. Price is a barrier, but the stupid DRM infestations are just as bad.
So, the point seems to be that the system's broke, but as the rule makers get to profit, it won't get fixed. I have read no real comment on the fact that a former head of the Nasdaq is a crook, beyond the mere mention of the fact. Remarkable.
Thanks. I appreciate you letting an old joke go.
Come on guys, this is totally wrong. There are really 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary, and those who don't.
*sigh* Sad isn't it? There you are, faithfully buying the music of your favourite band, and then enjoying it in whatever way suits you when you run headlong into Corporate Greed and Stupidity. That's pretty much why DRM will never work. What you want is pretty much in direct oppposition to what EMI (in this case) wants.
Mormonism was established in the late 1820's http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormonism by a convicted fraudster http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Smith. Hardly thousands of years. All Churches operate in much the same way. They all prey (pray) on the hard of thinking.
Seems to me that you're just as likely to achieve enlightenment looking at porn as any other way. In the west we tend to think of Buddists as being somehow peaceful, because that nice Mr. Dalai Lama is so, well, nice. When it comes right down to it though Buddism is just as expoitative as any other religious cult. Just because lots of people believe something don't make it so. http://www.buddhistchannel.tv/index.php?id=52,1731,0,0,1,0 http://www.mathaba.net/0_index.shtml?x=559110 The above links are just a couple of cases of people being a**holes. What fairy tales they profess to believe in makes no odds.
As far as I can see, more thean half the earth's population are unintelligent.
None of this is really all that shocking. The American Government is no longer "for the people, of the people, by the people", it is now a money making venture for the participants. This of course means that those that have the means and the will to pay for the legislation they what, get it. You Americans need to understand that you don't live in a democracy any more, and you haven't for quite a while. Your system of Government needs a complete overhaul, and unfortunately to get it, people will have to die. This is just a fact of history, it has happened before, and will (no doubt) happen again.
I'm sure you're right about that. If there's one thing we can learn from history, its that the rich always stay on top. The point really is that America was founded as a new system of government, and was radical in the 18th century, but with the passage of more than two hundred years without any real reform, that system has become old and tired, and does not serve the people any more. The wealthy of America (the corporations and their owners) are grabbing such a huge percentage of the nations wealth for themselves that there is not enough left for anyone else. The middle class will only stand being screwed for so long before they rebel. It'll be along wait I'm sure, but eventually some thing has to give.
No, there's no one in Washington that is not bought and paid for. They're all corrupt, and the sooner the avaerage American realises this and revolts, the better off the world will be.
Quite right. The American people will continue to get the same treatment from their Government as long as they continue to let the moneyed interests co-op the politicians. If there is no reform of your entire political system, eventually there will be revolution. There will have to be, as the politicians will not reform a system that anables them to get rich, and the corporations won't press for reform, as they're the ones benefitting. I guess that once the middle class is squeezed too hard they'll be forced to rebel. It'll take blood to change anything. Its a shame, but America was founded in blood.
Oh, well if they believe he's a god, we'll just have to respect their stupid belief then I suppose.
The idea that America was settled by malcontents escaping oppression is a long standing myth that seems to be widely believed (in america anyway). Some of the Pilgrims were religious extremists, but the vast majority of settlers what we would call economic refugees, just looking for a better life. Even during the War of Independence, many Americans thought of themselves as British, and did not want to split with the Empire at all. They just wanted fairness in taxation. In reply to your sidenote: I have no thoughts on why people leave rather than work to change the system, but the reasons you mentioned seem pretty good ones to me. I am also sure that the US is nearly ready for another Civil War. One will certainly happen within the next generation or so, unless the political and economic system are changed radically. You cannot continue with the corrupt system you have, and expect people to just accept it forever.
Sorry guys. Your system of Government has been up for sale for a long time now. The highest bidders are just sorting themselves out now. Democracy has ended in the US, is it now an oligarchy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oligarchy or a Plutocracy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plutocracy ?
The real problem here is that the USA is no longer a democracy, and hasn't been for some time. This administration just happens to be the first to really take advantage of the fact that a tiny minority of Americans vote, and those that do vote selfishly. There might be howls of protest from some, but none the less, the facts bear me out. Check out what percentage of the total voter pool Bush won with last time around. Not much will change as long as the ignorant voting public continue to either swallow the crap they're fed, or ignore it.