It's a flaw in our thinking. We prefer binary values, even though they are uncommon in nature. When does the day become night? Is it the start of sunset, the end of sunset, the end of civil twilight, or the end of nautical twilight? With the gravity on the gas giants bordering on ridiculous, a lot of effects we are familiar with here vanish there.
Sweetie, I respect your passion, but you gotta do some actual research. Start with Snopes and work from there. What is the point of passion if you base it on a mirage?
I hate the fact that the Democratic and Republican parties have left basic morality to chase money. I'm never voting Libertarian though. Until I see a party that embraces honesty, both within and without, I'll take the dubious pleasure of voting for a party that will probably screw me less.
Lol, I don't know the volume of books you read, but I read more than I'm capable of remembering, at least without any help. A summary would help, but a rating system would hopefully be sortable.
It is called CONSENT!!!! Every argument about marriage equality always devolves into some idiot saying that if we allow the gays to marry, we'd have to let the necrophiliacs, the zoophiles, and the pedophiles get their freak on. The dead and animals cannot consent. The age of consent for humans is an artificial line where, when crossed, our society considers that person capable of giving consent without a guardian's input. It has to be artificial, because all of nature is about gradients. Somewhere between black and white, in all the grays there has to be a point which is definitely black and a point that is definitely white. You may disagree with where I say the black starts, but we are still worried about it being black. Do you think that the age of consent is wrong? Fine. Campaign about it. Post fliers, produce commercials. Maybe with a good enough argument, may the rest of us will agree with you and we'll change it. It is still all about the ability to consent!
Surely you've seen this answer before, but here we go again... A truly intelligent person can see that living in harmony with his(her) fellows creates a greater benefit than every man(women) for themselves. How many hands did your computer go through to end up in front of you? How many people are here contributing to this discussion? One man couldn't have built the Hoover damn or threaded the sky with the steeples of the great cathedrals. You need me and I need you. Why do you think that your God promoted peace in the first place? It was just a whim of His?
Actually, I'd like to know where you got your information. Civil unions are nothing like marriages, except that they are supposed to bind two people together.
Civil unions are a creation of the states, they do nothing on a federal level. There are no laws requiring other states to recognize a civil union or confer whatever benefits the original state granted the couple.
The civil marriage contract, on the other hand, conveys a bevy of legal protections and abilities and, until DOMA was enacted, required to be honored in all the states of the Union. (Which is why any Constitution lover should be pissed about DOMA, it violates the constitution, specifically the Contract Clause which states that any legal contract made in any state should be honored in ALL the states. Even after that court case, that bit is still intact.) The most prominent of those protection and abilities (the ones everybody brings up) are the right to sponsor a spouse to become American citizen, the right to make medical decisions on behalf of an incapacitated spouse and the tax benefits.
Frankly, the medical one scares me the most. Imagine going to Disney World with your spouse. (I was going to go with spouse throughout this hypothetical, but that made it even longer, so I'm going to use the male pronouns. Please feel free to substitute the female pronouns according to your orientation.) Something goes wrong. Did he eat bad shellfish? Is it heat stroke? An aneurism? You're not a doctor you don't know! You get to the hospital and he is breathing (you think) but he is so still...
The nurses wheel the gurney away and tell you to wait in the waiting room. Hours go by with no word. The door suddenly jumps open. Is it a doctor? No, not even close. The hospital has contacted the next of kin, which isn't you (you aren't married and Florida doesn't recognize civil unions), it is his mother. This is bad news. She hates you. You're "that faggot that seduced my son away from Christ!" to her. Maybe the fact that someone you love and she claims to love is hurt will cause her to unbend a little and you can concentrate on what is wrong with him instead of fighting. Of course not. She gets a doctor who is willing to talk to "a family member" but when you ask her what is going on, she refuses to tell you. You aren't a family member, so the doctor won't talk to you. You get more insistent with her. She can't be that cruel! She gets security to throw you out of the hospital. The End. Maybe he had a really bad case of sunstroke, maybe he had a congenital heart defect that killed him. You won't ever know, unless he calls you when he is conscious.
You made it through that long hypothetical, good job. I really want you to imagine sitting in a hotel room, staring at a cellphone, knowing that your loved one may already be dead, knowing that it may be days before you find out. You have no legal options, you have no way of finding anything out. No one is under any obligation to tell you what happened and she won't tell you. She can bar you from the funeral, she can bar you from the burial. You can end up never seeing him again. Is this something you'd wish on another human being? Don't make excuses. Don't focus on the icky sex stuff, you think our sexy times are gross and we think your sexy times are gross, get over it. This HAS happened to people before. This has RECENTLY happened to people. Marriage equality would protect us from a horrific scenario that straight married people have never faced. Why do we have to beg for something that a decent person would just give? (And that is why so many of us hate the religious. "Love one another" is well and good, if you don't actively try to punish people who do things you dislike because you find it icky. It is kind of a contradiction and everybody hates a hypocrite.)
Or he is saying that the military is one of the only options a orphan has to do something. It is a steady job with decent promotion opportunities and a chance to go to college. Provided, of course, you aren't blown up in a desert/jungle somewhere. And if you want to go to college, you better be married to someone with a decent job, because the "living stipend" is anything but livable. But still a decent opportunity, especially for someone with nothing.
I don't buy any books from Amazon because they don't offer them in a format that's readable on my Nook.
That is kind of an odd way to look at the situation. I have a iPad and I can read Amazon books on the free Kindle app and I can read B&N books on the free Nook app. Not the most convenient setup (plus I have a bone to pick with both for a lack of organization options. The Kindle app won't even provide a rating field so I can know if I liked the book or hated it!), but the tech is obviously there. Wouldn't it be more that the Nook people won't allow Amazon to put their app on the Nook?
You can't see past the idea of judgement, can you? Immoral actions on his part doesn't justify your immorality. It isn't your place to judge or punish him for the things in his life beyond his performance at work. If he is injured, he needs some time to recover. The law doesn't compel you to continue to employ someone who can't physically do the job, in fact, researching for this response has shown me that if the injury occurred not at work, most states are fine with you firing them after 12 unpaid weeks. You just might be on the line for unemployment benefits, which you would have been responsible for if you had just fired him anyway.
What did I miss? You want to fire people for their private life. That is despicable. Was there a secret message in your post? Was I supposed to read only every third word to protect the message from the government? What is the frequency, Kenneth?
And you're the reason why laws exist... If people acted with human dignity instead of the bottom line, a lot of these laws wouldn't exist. People like you, who would fire a woman for getting pregnant, who would fire a guy for being the target of discrimination, and who would immediately fire someone for being injured are the very reason these laws exist. You won't do the right thing, so you must be forced into it.
He is not responsible for the actions of another. If everybody let their rage and inattention behind, driving would be much safer. Utopia isn't achievable, but it is only through the efforts of everyone that we can approach it. The best any of us can do is act in good faith and with caution, while hoping everyone is doing the same.
I've been looking for a place to say this. I disagree with the assertion that Bluetooth is too dorky to wear. I have a Motorola S10 headset and you can have them after you pry them off my corpse. They loop around my ears and look like behind-the-head headphones without a cord. Bluetooth earpieces are simply a shitty form factor. Bluetooth is a great solution that just needed to find the right look.
I admit, the Google Glasses control scheme seems dumb to me. I'd rather have a hand remote, maybe the size of a car key fob.
Well yeah if we start building enough wind farms to cause mass bird die-offs, there would be a problem. If there was a discovered unintended lethal effect from production of solar panels, there would be a problem. Isn't the death of a significant portion of the biomass, due to our actions, something to be worried about? Also, there are 315 million people living in the USA alone. There are bound to be nuts who prize the lives of seagulls over the construction of wind farms.
I was focused on his second paragraph, which appears to be a common libertarian myth. 'A free unregulated market will solve many economic issues.' A myth that is a total lie perpetuated by the exploitative and their sucker followers.
I was also creating a metaphor. The free market is indeed a system. Systems have rules. There are actions dictated by the rules, almost like a boss telling you what to do and when to do it. Therefore, a market is a boss.
I'm a little confused about the next bit of your post though. I think you said that you'd be fine with a sociopath as a boss. Someone who understands and pursues a free market outlook knows that extracting the most work out of the least people, to make the cheapest useable product possible, is the way to win in that market. Ah, I reread what you wrote. You are saying that a boss who understands the market would have the positive qualities I mentioned. That is a baseless assumption. People tend to cede their moral responsibility to the groupthink.
then it's not a free market
That is the "one, true Scotsman" fallacy. We have had mostly free markets before and they tend to monopolies. Once a monopoly is established, quality decreases in the product, as well as pay and overall worker welfare. You need look at history and grasp the cheapness of human life.
The free market is not the answer. The free market may be the efficient decision maker, but it lacks the things we say makes us human. The free market has no empathy, compassion, intelligence, foresight, or shame. Would you ask a person lacking those trait to be your boss?
Or, maybe, they turn against it when new evidence came forward showing that the dams were contributing to the eradication of the fish populations and preventing the farmland below the dam from flourishing. You know, like what rational people do when presented with evidence that one of their favorite things is hurting people.
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"White guys are preferred," is the default setting for society. These artificial preferences are set up to counter that default.
It's a flaw in our thinking. We prefer binary values, even though they are uncommon in nature. When does the day become night? Is it the start of sunset, the end of sunset, the end of civil twilight, or the end of nautical twilight? With the gravity on the gas giants bordering on ridiculous, a lot of effects we are familiar with here vanish there.
I'm pretty sure he meant Ion Cannon.
Sweetie, I respect your passion, but you gotta do some actual research. Start with Snopes and work from there. What is the point of passion if you base it on a mirage?
I hate the fact that the Democratic and Republican parties have left basic morality to chase money. I'm never voting Libertarian though. Until I see a party that embraces honesty, both within and without, I'll take the dubious pleasure of voting for a party that will probably screw me less.
Ha! That is the only reason I saw that movie. GlaDOS in giant killer robots, nothing could possibly go wrong with that...
Lol, I don't know the volume of books you read, but I read more than I'm capable of remembering, at least without any help. A summary would help, but a rating system would hopefully be sortable.
It is called CONSENT!!!! Every argument about marriage equality always devolves into some idiot saying that if we allow the gays to marry, we'd have to let the necrophiliacs, the zoophiles, and the pedophiles get their freak on. The dead and animals cannot consent. The age of consent for humans is an artificial line where, when crossed, our society considers that person capable of giving consent without a guardian's input. It has to be artificial, because all of nature is about gradients. Somewhere between black and white, in all the grays there has to be a point which is definitely black and a point that is definitely white. You may disagree with where I say the black starts, but we are still worried about it being black. Do you think that the age of consent is wrong? Fine. Campaign about it. Post fliers, produce commercials. Maybe with a good enough argument, may the rest of us will agree with you and we'll change it. It is still all about the ability to consent!
Surely you've seen this answer before, but here we go again... A truly intelligent person can see that living in harmony with his(her) fellows creates a greater benefit than every man(women) for themselves. How many hands did your computer go through to end up in front of you? How many people are here contributing to this discussion? One man couldn't have built the Hoover damn or threaded the sky with the steeples of the great cathedrals. You need me and I need you. Why do you think that your God promoted peace in the first place? It was just a whim of His?
Actually, I'd like to know where you got your information. Civil unions are nothing like marriages, except that they are supposed to bind two people together.
Civil unions are a creation of the states, they do nothing on a federal level. There are no laws requiring other states to recognize a civil union or confer whatever benefits the original state granted the couple.
The civil marriage contract, on the other hand, conveys a bevy of legal protections and abilities and, until DOMA was enacted, required to be honored in all the states of the Union. (Which is why any Constitution lover should be pissed about DOMA, it violates the constitution, specifically the Contract Clause which states that any legal contract made in any state should be honored in ALL the states. Even after that court case, that bit is still intact.) The most prominent of those protection and abilities (the ones everybody brings up) are the right to sponsor a spouse to become American citizen, the right to make medical decisions on behalf of an incapacitated spouse and the tax benefits.
Frankly, the medical one scares me the most. Imagine going to Disney World with your spouse. (I was going to go with spouse throughout this hypothetical, but that made it even longer, so I'm going to use the male pronouns. Please feel free to substitute the female pronouns according to your orientation.) Something goes wrong. Did he eat bad shellfish? Is it heat stroke? An aneurism? You're not a doctor you don't know! You get to the hospital and he is breathing (you think) but he is so still...
The nurses wheel the gurney away and tell you to wait in the waiting room. Hours go by with no word. The door suddenly jumps open. Is it a doctor? No, not even close. The hospital has contacted the next of kin, which isn't you (you aren't married and Florida doesn't recognize civil unions), it is his mother. This is bad news. She hates you. You're "that faggot that seduced my son away from Christ!" to her. Maybe the fact that someone you love and she claims to love is hurt will cause her to unbend a little and you can concentrate on what is wrong with him instead of fighting. Of course not. She gets a doctor who is willing to talk to "a family member" but when you ask her what is going on, she refuses to tell you. You aren't a family member, so the doctor won't talk to you. You get more insistent with her. She can't be that cruel! She gets security to throw you out of the hospital. The End. Maybe he had a really bad case of sunstroke, maybe he had a congenital heart defect that killed him. You won't ever know, unless he calls you when he is conscious.
You made it through that long hypothetical, good job. I really want you to imagine sitting in a hotel room, staring at a cellphone, knowing that your loved one may already be dead, knowing that it may be days before you find out. You have no legal options, you have no way of finding anything out. No one is under any obligation to tell you what happened and she won't tell you. She can bar you from the funeral, she can bar you from the burial. You can end up never seeing him again. Is this something you'd wish on another human being? Don't make excuses. Don't focus on the icky sex stuff, you think our sexy times are gross and we think your sexy times are gross, get over it. This HAS happened to people before. This has RECENTLY happened to people. Marriage equality would protect us from a horrific scenario that straight married people have never faced. Why do we have to beg for something that a decent person would just give? (And that is why so many of us hate the religious. "Love one another" is well and good, if you don't actively try to punish people who do things you dislike because you find it icky. It is kind of a contradiction and everybody hates a hypocrite.)
Or he is saying that the military is one of the only options a orphan has to do something. It is a steady job with decent promotion opportunities and a chance to go to college. Provided, of course, you aren't blown up in a desert/jungle somewhere. And if you want to go to college, you better be married to someone with a decent job, because the "living stipend" is anything but livable. But still a decent opportunity, especially for someone with nothing.
That is kind of an odd way to look at the situation. I have a iPad and I can read Amazon books on the free Kindle app and I can read B&N books on the free Nook app. Not the most convenient setup (plus I have a bone to pick with both for a lack of organization options. The Kindle app won't even provide a rating field so I can know if I liked the book or hated it!), but the tech is obviously there. Wouldn't it be more that the Nook people won't allow Amazon to put their app on the Nook?
Because when a business is allowed to dictate working shifts, the shifts tend to be 18+ hrs? Look at any sweatshop.
You can't see past the idea of judgement, can you? Immoral actions on his part doesn't justify your immorality. It isn't your place to judge or punish him for the things in his life beyond his performance at work. If he is injured, he needs some time to recover. The law doesn't compel you to continue to employ someone who can't physically do the job, in fact, researching for this response has shown me that if the injury occurred not at work, most states are fine with you firing them after 12 unpaid weeks. You just might be on the line for unemployment benefits, which you would have been responsible for if you had just fired him anyway.
What did I miss? You want to fire people for their private life. That is despicable. Was there a secret message in your post? Was I supposed to read only every third word to protect the message from the government? What is the frequency, Kenneth?
And you're the reason why laws exist... If people acted with human dignity instead of the bottom line, a lot of these laws wouldn't exist. People like you, who would fire a woman for getting pregnant, who would fire a guy for being the target of discrimination, and who would immediately fire someone for being injured are the very reason these laws exist. You won't do the right thing, so you must be forced into it.
He is not responsible for the actions of another. If everybody let their rage and inattention behind, driving would be much safer. Utopia isn't achievable, but it is only through the efforts of everyone that we can approach it. The best any of us can do is act in good faith and with caution, while hoping everyone is doing the same.
He was actually referring to the parent batting the politician, not the camera.
I've been looking for a place to say this. I disagree with the assertion that Bluetooth is too dorky to wear. I have a Motorola S10 headset and you can have them after you pry them off my corpse. They loop around my ears and look like behind-the-head headphones without a cord. Bluetooth earpieces are simply a shitty form factor. Bluetooth is a great solution that just needed to find the right look.
I admit, the Google Glasses control scheme seems dumb to me. I'd rather have a hand remote, maybe the size of a car key fob.
Well yeah if we start building enough wind farms to cause mass bird die-offs, there would be a problem. If there was a discovered unintended lethal effect from production of solar panels, there would be a problem. Isn't the death of a significant portion of the biomass, due to our actions, something to be worried about? Also, there are 315 million people living in the USA alone. There are bound to be nuts who prize the lives of seagulls over the construction of wind farms.
I was focused on his second paragraph, which appears to be a common libertarian myth. 'A free unregulated market will solve many economic issues.' A myth that is a total lie perpetuated by the exploitative and their sucker followers.
I was also creating a metaphor. The free market is indeed a system. Systems have rules. There are actions dictated by the rules, almost like a boss telling you what to do and when to do it. Therefore, a market is a boss.
I'm a little confused about the next bit of your post though. I think you said that you'd be fine with a sociopath as a boss. Someone who understands and pursues a free market outlook knows that extracting the most work out of the least people, to make the cheapest useable product possible, is the way to win in that market. Ah, I reread what you wrote. You are saying that a boss who understands the market would have the positive qualities I mentioned. That is a baseless assumption. People tend to cede their moral responsibility to the groupthink.
That is the "one, true Scotsman" fallacy. We have had mostly free markets before and they tend to monopolies. Once a monopoly is established, quality decreases in the product, as well as pay and overall worker welfare. You need look at history and grasp the cheapness of human life.
The free market is not the answer. The free market may be the efficient decision maker, but it lacks the things we say makes us human. The free market has no empathy, compassion, intelligence, foresight, or shame. Would you ask a person lacking those trait to be your boss?
Or, maybe, they turn against it when new evidence came forward showing that the dams were contributing to the eradication of the fish populations and preventing the farmland below the dam from flourishing. You know, like what rational people do when presented with evidence that one of their favorite things is hurting people.
Well, you put a dollar bill over the left eye and another dollar bill over the right eye... Ta-da! Your vision has been "corrected."
We'll just have to install them ourselves.