Like many things, that only works on paper. Someone will always be able to cause some major problem, even if it's IT themselves, and most likely they will at least once. Many viruses only take one computer to infect a whole network. Running a fully patched win XP I got a virus from a corporate network (I was visiting and they had a virus... go figure), how I still don't know, and my systems are all configured very secure compared to most.
The end never justifies the means. Saying philosophy has no place in business if it doesn't pay off over night is idiotic. Many businesses exist today because they had or have some philosophy behind them and many have fallen or are falling due to lack of them.
The combination of iTunes and DRM-free MP3s provided the 'killer app' for the iPod.
Ether the submitter is ignoring that there is DRM on Itunes music and thus lying or doesn't know. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FairPlay for those who may not know.
"Are you a competent attorney? Tax accountant? Automotive Mechanic? Manufacturing supervisor? Medical doctor?
What would you think if professionals in these various areas figured you were a moron because you did a stupid in their field of expertise?"
These are not cases of being a moron because you don't know how to do something, it's because you ignore that you are not smart enough to do them. A lot of people get their cars fixed for them, hire lawyers, have people do their taxes, etc... How many people forward their emails to people to make sure they are legit? None. People who don't know how to drive but drive anyway and crash the car have only themselves to blame, this case is the same.
Emails are too easy to get, if it was harder; cases of this would drop by a LOT, because people who didn't know how to use emails wouldn't be using them. Not like that's going to happen, or if it would even be a good thing, but it does say people should avoid messing with things they can't comprehend.
"And ISP's really should be looking at blocking or actively monitoring outbound connections to port 25. Come on! It's not that difficult."
Mine already DOES this, the problem is, I have a few legit uses for that port (well, at least not illegal). At least 3 I have had did it, same as port 80. They use the virus EXCUSE, but it's just that...
RIAA Jim: Hey, we just got some file-sharers here. Quick save the packets and download the files so we can nab them!
RIAA Bob: Umm, Jim, I donno know to do that on this new windows...
RIAA Jim: Idiot, press that button.
RIAA Bob: I did, it just says "you cannot download this file".
Both: WTF?
"I guess I would be more sympathetic to these folks if the CIA hadn't conducted a six year campaign of leaks to undermine the president. I worked for Uncle Sam. When you do anything connected with the military you sign away your right to discuss it. Ever. There's nothing here that has anything to do with the first amendment."
Great way to rid yourself of those pesky whistleblowers...
"And if you think the administration is fascist you should probably crack a history book and actually try to understand the meaning of the words you're writing. If Bush was really a fascist you wouldn't be reading this, since you'd be in a shallow mass grave somewhere. Are you so disconnected from reality?"
Nazi Germany wasn't built in a day. These things take time, and if you refuse to speak up, you can bet your life they will turn out the same.
I've used it on both windows and Linux. On both it was faster or as fast as MS office on windows. How many YEARS has it been since you used it?
"2. Lacks perfect.doc compatibility."
I never noticed it, and export to MS-office type docs all the time. Maybe if you load it up with macros and such, but can you really expect that to work? You may as well complain Firefox doesn't support VBS.
"3. Can only deal with the simplest Excel spreadsheets."
Once again, never noticed it, but I don't import that many excels, so I will give you this one as a chance.
"Since it lacks perfect compatibility, it is a non-starter."
On the OTHER hand, MS office lacks compatibility for most everything other then Microsoft's own document types. What about PDF, for example? And as I said above, I have never seen this. If it's so major an issue, then send me one doc that I would be unable open in open-office.
Sorry, no everyone subscribes to your idea that facts should always be omitted because of political correctness. I bet if it a democrat you would be yelling about how this proves they are all idiots... Personally I think both are idiots of equal measure.
"Can you see the differences? Do you see why Yahoo HK was evil, but Google was not? Hong Kong is a seperate government than mainland China."
Umm, no.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kong
"The Hong Kong Special Administrative Region of the People's Republic of China (Traditional Chinese: [pronunciation]) is one of the two special administrative regions (SARs) of the People's Republic of China (PRC), the other being Macau, and one of the richest cities in the world."
"The context is important; and to some of us, suppressing free speech is not equivalent to punishing someone for breaking into a former employer's network in order to damage it."
The Chinese would say the same thing; they were just punishing someone for spreading lies and propaganda in an attempt to destabilize the government. Not that they are right, just remember, everyone has excuses.
"There is even an argument to say that copyrights held by non-profits are a by-product, or even an abuse, of copyright laws put in place to protect personal and corporate profits."
That was never the goal of copyright. Copyright existed to improve the scientific and cultural value of the human race, it was made to give motive to create content. It was never intended to "protect" anyone's gains, that was just the means meant to attain it's goal. Clearly, though, the idea was flawed and has been perverted so badly no one can even remember why it existed in the first place.
"Where's the love for FreeBSD, OpenBSD, and NetBSD?"
Have you actually tried to compile it? I compile for my architecture (64) all the time with things that aren't made to support it. Sometimes I have to make small changes to strings, but it can't be THAT much worse installing on BSD.
Actually I have very little (pirated or otherwise) RIAA music. I try all I can to avoid the RIAA's trash. In fact I propose we start an organization to label music as "RIAA-free".
"As a musician, I don't agree with you. Sorry and I will continue to argue. Do I agree with RIAA suing everyone? No. However I do see the illegal copying of copyrighted material unethical and criminal."
Here's an idea. instead of complaining to people who clearly don't care, why not spend your time trying to figure out a way to make people *want* to buy your product? The old method of "do it or I sue you" had clearly failed and no amount of bribes to politicians or complaining on your part will change that fact. Don't forget you were only given copyright as a motive to produce something that improves humanity, not to line your pockets infinitely.
For once, do something helpful: think outside of the box and stop bitching the box exists.
theft/ft/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[theft] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation,
-noun
1. the act of stealing; the wrongful taking and carrying away of the personal goods or property of another; larceny.
2. an instance of this.
3. Archaic. something stolen.
You cannot "take away" an idea, music, games, movies or books by copying them. Depriving of possible payment does not equate theft by any legal means or any dictionary, at best it could be fraud. Please stop butchering the English language to support your RIAA sympathy.
"Until more artists start selling their own stuff directly, this is going to be the way it is, and you can justify your actions any way you want, but that still doesn't make them right."
Now see, I find a more immoral choice funding shit like this: http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/12/21/20 45219 And once you take into account that almost the whole of American musical culture is under the control of the RIAA (through dirty tricks and a long history of monopoly), it gets a whole lot less "immoral" to not do as they say. Is it still immoral to not pay your taxes if your government is directly killing millions with that money? No, and there isn't much difference here.
It's easy to say "do without", but in a situation like this where all that exists on a large scale is a monopoly, it becomes harder to "do without". You will say "music isn't something you need, it's not food", but how is that your place to decide? I think a lot better with music playing, it helps me concentrate.
A TV is also something you don't need, but if someone stole it then demanded you pay them to have it back; like the RIAA has done with music, it would be illegal. Why isn't it? Well placed bribes.
Don't come here talking about "morals" when you clearly don't understand what it means to have them.
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"They're not trying to recover losses, they're trying to scare people into not crossing the RIAA."
;]) the KGB has been at that a lot longer.
Sadly for the RIAA (Er, not really
I had a joke about the RIAA learning something, but I think they have already surpassed him.
It did - before the DMCA - and should still.
Like many things, that only works on paper. Someone will always be able to cause some major problem, even if it's IT themselves, and most likely they will at least once. Many viruses only take one computer to infect a whole network. Running a fully patched win XP I got a virus from a corporate network (I was visiting and they had a virus... go figure), how I still don't know, and my systems are all configured very secure compared to most.
The end never justifies the means. Saying philosophy has no place in business if it doesn't pay off over night is idiotic. Many businesses exist today because they had or have some philosophy behind them and many have fallen or are falling due to lack of them.
1. Say joke is old
2. Reply with older joke
3. ???
4. Profit!
"Are you a competent attorney? Tax accountant? Automotive Mechanic? Manufacturing supervisor? Medical doctor?
What would you think if professionals in these various areas figured you were a moron because you did a stupid in their field of expertise?"
These are not cases of being a moron because you don't know how to do something, it's because you ignore that you are not smart enough to do them. A lot of people get their cars fixed for them, hire lawyers, have people do their taxes, etc... How many people forward their emails to people to make sure they are legit? None. People who don't know how to drive but drive anyway and crash the car have only themselves to blame, this case is the same.
Emails are too easy to get, if it was harder; cases of this would drop by a LOT, because people who didn't know how to use emails wouldn't be using them. Not like that's going to happen, or if it would even be a good thing, but it does say people should avoid messing with things they can't comprehend.
"And ISP's really should be looking at blocking or actively monitoring outbound connections to port 25. Come on! It's not that difficult."
Mine already DOES this, the problem is, I have a few legit uses for that port (well, at least not illegal). At least 3 I have had did it, same as port 80. They use the virus EXCUSE, but it's just that...
Hmm...
;)
RIAA Jim: Hey, we just got some file-sharers here. Quick save the packets and download the files so we can nab them!
RIAA Bob: Umm, Jim, I donno know to do that on this new windows...
RIAA Jim: Idiot, press that button.
RIAA Bob: I did, it just says "you cannot download this file".
Both: WTF?
Sounds like a plan to me.
"I guess I would be more sympathetic to these folks if the CIA hadn't conducted a six year campaign of leaks to undermine the president. I worked for Uncle Sam. When you do anything connected with the military you sign away your right to discuss it. Ever. There's nothing here that has anything to do with the first amendment."
Great way to rid yourself of those pesky whistleblowers...
"And if you think the administration is fascist you should probably crack a history book and actually try to understand the meaning of the words you're writing. If Bush was really a fascist you wouldn't be reading this, since you'd be in a shallow mass grave somewhere. Are you so disconnected from reality?"
Nazi Germany wasn't built in a day. These things take time, and if you refuse to speak up, you can bet your life they will turn out the same.
"1. Slow as molasses."
.doc compatibility."
I've used it on both windows and Linux. On both it was faster or as fast as MS office on windows. How many YEARS has it been since you used it?
"2. Lacks perfect
I never noticed it, and export to MS-office type docs all the time. Maybe if you load it up with macros and such, but can you really expect that to work? You may as well complain Firefox doesn't support VBS.
"3. Can only deal with the simplest Excel spreadsheets."
Once again, never noticed it, but I don't import that many excels, so I will give you this one as a chance.
"Since it lacks perfect compatibility, it is a non-starter."
On the OTHER hand, MS office lacks compatibility for most everything other then Microsoft's own document types. What about PDF, for example? And as I said above, I have never seen this. If it's so major an issue, then send me one doc that I would be unable open in open-office.
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Sorry, no everyone subscribes to your idea that facts should always be omitted because of political correctness. I bet if it a democrat you would be yelling about how this proves they are all idiots... Personally I think both are idiots of equal measure.
http://www.google.com/ #1 spell-checking app online.
"Can you see the differences? Do you see why Yahoo HK was evil, but Google was not? Hong Kong is a seperate government than mainland China."
Umm, no.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kong
"The Hong Kong Special Administrative Region of the People's Republic of China (Traditional Chinese: [pronunciation]) is one of the two special administrative regions (SARs) of the People's Republic of China (PRC), the other being Macau, and one of the richest cities in the world."
"The context is important; and to some of us, suppressing free speech is not equivalent to punishing someone for breaking into a former employer's network in order to damage it."
The Chinese would say the same thing; they were just punishing someone for spreading lies and propaganda in an attempt to destabilize the government. Not that they are right, just remember, everyone has excuses.
"There is even an argument to say that copyrights held by non-profits are a by-product, or even an abuse, of copyright laws put in place to protect personal and corporate profits."
That was never the goal of copyright. Copyright existed to improve the scientific and cultural value of the human race, it was made to give motive to create content. It was never intended to "protect" anyone's gains, that was just the means meant to attain it's goal. Clearly, though, the idea was flawed and has been perverted so badly no one can even remember why it existed in the first place.
"Where's the love for FreeBSD, OpenBSD, and NetBSD?"
Have you actually tried to compile it? I compile for my architecture (64) all the time with things that aren't made to support it. Sometimes I have to make small changes to strings, but it can't be THAT much worse installing on BSD.
Actually I have very little (pirated or otherwise) RIAA music. I try all I can to avoid the RIAA's trash. In fact I propose we start an organization to label music as "RIAA-free".
Finally the RIAA has met it's match. "Take that dime from my cold, dead hand, suckers!"
"But the Russian mafia is the government."
But the **AA is our government, too!
"As a musician, I don't agree with you. Sorry and I will continue to argue. Do I agree with RIAA suing everyone? No. However I do see the illegal copying of copyrighted material unethical and criminal."
Here's an idea. instead of complaining to people who clearly don't care, why not spend your time trying to figure out a way to make people *want* to buy your product? The old method of "do it or I sue you" had clearly failed and no amount of bribes to politicians or complaining on your part will change that fact. Don't forget you were only given copyright as a motive to produce something that improves humanity, not to line your pockets infinitely.
For once, do something helpful: think outside of the box and stop bitching the box exists.
Next time look it up at a real dictionary.
/ft/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[theft] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation,
theft
-noun
1. the act of stealing; the wrongful taking and carrying away of the personal goods or property of another; larceny.
2. an instance of this.
3. Archaic. something stolen.
You cannot "take away" an idea, music, games, movies or books by copying them. Depriving of possible payment does not equate theft by any legal means or any dictionary, at best it could be fraud. Please stop butchering the English language to support your RIAA sympathy.
"Until more artists start selling their own stuff directly, this is going to be the way it is, and you can justify your actions any way you want, but that still doesn't make them right."
0 45219 And once you take into account that almost the whole of American musical culture is under the control of the RIAA (through dirty tricks and a long history of monopoly), it gets a whole lot less "immoral" to not do as they say. Is it still immoral to not pay your taxes if your government is directly killing millions with that money? No, and there isn't much difference here.
Now see, I find a more immoral choice funding shit like this: http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/12/21/2
It's easy to say "do without", but in a situation like this where all that exists on a large scale is a monopoly, it becomes harder to "do without". You will say "music isn't something you need, it's not food", but how is that your place to decide? I think a lot better with music playing, it helps me concentrate.
A TV is also something you don't need, but if someone stole it then demanded you pay them to have it back; like the RIAA has done with music, it would be illegal. Why isn't it? Well placed bribes.
Don't come here talking about "morals" when you clearly don't understand what it means to have them.