Re:It's not exactly 'technology' or 'easy'
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Tell that to the people of the middle ages who died of the plague. If the people are not willing to hold the cards (tech is one) you will at best lose anything you may have gained form them - but the worse and more realistic is your enemy makes use of them.
Sounds like you failed at installing debian (known for hard installs and bad post-install configs) and are blaming all linux for your stupidity in A) needing to rtfm and B) picking the wrong distro.
If you are having THAT MUCH of a hard time, get mandrake, red hat or some other noob linux. Don't run out and pick the most hard to use one and whine when it doesn't put a help link on every button.
And how the hell did you extrapolate that from the parent anyway?
"Yeah, that's a good strategy. Punish the innocent. Don't bother to figure out what actually happened, just teach your kids that there is no justice in the world."
"Which there isn't. Welcome to reality."
I was not so much replying to the parent as both the ones before. Just because most people are jackasses doesn't mean you need to or should be one.
Going back to the example of a young woman being raped at a party - the rape itself is certainly not her fault, but she sure as hell isn't minimizing her risk if she dresses suggestively and gets drunk (i.e. impairs her judgement and ability to act even further) in the presence of a bunch of young men whose behavior she can't really predict.
That is only side-steping my point; when you punish the victim, you help the villain more then the act itself did. How can you define what is "safe" and what is not? Here are 3 situations...
1. You are drunk in a bar, you get into a bar fight with someone (lets just say you were trying to avoid it for the argument), you get knocked out.
2. You are walking down the street, and you get jumped and have your wallet taken.
3. You are walking around in a shopping mall, you know 6 martial arts and have 3 people with you, you get blown up in a terrorist attack.
In what case is the victim at fault? All? None? If you can't define a hard set of definitions, then don't define any. You will only end up being wrong and hurting more people more then they would have been without you.
Not to mention, this "punish the victim" (say it isn't all you want, that IS what you are saying) only would contribute to people being afraid to report crimes more then before. Why would I call the police if I got mugged if I knew I was going to jail? All you are doing is supporting crime and hurting people by making there be less reason to speak up.
Also, you say how good your kids are... ever think they may just be good around you? Even the worst of enemies could come to an agreement to protect each other equally.
You are the epitome of all that is wrong with society as a whole, and I guess you are happy about that. Regardless of anything in the world, you will ALWAYS be doing something risky. Lets take YOUR view and apply it to real life:
A bank has a full contingent of security guards. You notice a fire down the street and send them to help save people from the burning building. A robber notices you did this, and takes the opportunity to rob the bank. In your world, the bank would be fined for trying to help the people that would have died. All you are doing is solidifying the fear society is built around; you are not making your kids more able to deal with problems, just more able to run from them. You are teaching your kids how to be cowards and run from anything that may pose a danger, no matter the reason.
But in the end, you can never seal yourself in a little metal box. There is always danger, and according to you, it's your fault for it existing. Teach your kids to deal with danger and their problems, not how to be cowards and run from it.
Hey... I am speaker of the Concerned Azukan Technocrats of the East, and I would like a verison to... inspect myself. I would also like free accounts to porn all sites; to make sure there is no child porn.
That's all fine and good - but the fact is they are violating our rights, regardless of if we download anything or not. I had this argument with a hippy the other day; you cannot simply say "Good bye!" and walk away. Are you are doing is running from the problem, and it WILL find you, no matter how hard you run.
Lets take a look at how the RIAA sues people even when they didn't do anything (this case, suing kids, I am sure open wifi has been sued over). How sure are you that this will not happen to YOU? You are not.
Lets look at how they shut down sites with perfectly legit uses (some cases with non-legit, too, but that only highlights the fact you will always have it). Lyrics sites? Tabs sites? I am sure both types of sites hosted tabs and lyrics of non-RIAA "artists", but they were collateral damage.
In the end, you cannot stand up and say "Goodbye RIAA!" because they WILL always affect you, even if you don't "steal" (moronic shock word, akin to terrorist). So sure maybe not downloading their stuff is a start - but not buying or downloading it will only make them think they lost sales due to piracy, and it's only a matter of time until you lose other, non-related rights over that.
If you can't take the heat - get out of the job. Now if you had donations (if you really are doing so badly, this should be no major step back) you would probably get more, do a service to people (not being another greedy SOB) and eliminate any keyword problems that may came from people trying to crack it.
Solve the problem. The RIAA can't solve it your way, and they have more money then you would if everyone *bought* your notepad, so figure out a way to solve it. Crying about how hurt you are is only going to generate more spite and reason to pirate your toy.
I got it! Sony must be the new world order! It's been here the whole time... I bet they are even run by Satan "Stalin" Hitler. What... why are you looking at me like that?
Tell that to the people of the middle ages who died of the plague. If the people are not willing to hold the cards (tech is one) you will at best lose anything you may have gained form them - but the worse and more realistic is your enemy makes use of them.
Sounds like you failed at installing debian (known for hard installs and bad post-install configs) and are blaming all linux for your stupidity in A) needing to rtfm and B) picking the wrong distro.
If you are having THAT MUCH of a hard time, get mandrake, red hat or some other noob linux. Don't run out and pick the most hard to use one and whine when it doesn't put a help link on every button.
>Unfortunately, people do not care enough about the problems of others, so everyone loses... I try to... sadly nobody cares. :-/
Ok. Nevermind then. I agree with that. :P
Ear plugs? Yelling "LALALALALALALALALALA"? Wait... "LALALALALALALALALALA" is probably copyrighted. Nevermind...
And here I didn't think there was ANY use.... ;)
Your only argument seems to be "OMG it's COMMUNISM", ignoring what communism is and acting as if equality is the one evil on earth. It's not.
I didn't say anything about being afraid... the opposite if you read my other post on the topic, http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=194147&cid=15
"Yeah, that's a good strategy. Punish the innocent. Don't bother to figure out what actually happened, just teach your kids that there is no justice in the world."
"Which there isn't. Welcome to reality."
I was not so much replying to the parent as both the ones before. Just because most people are jackasses doesn't mean you need to or should be one.
That is only side-steping my point; when you punish the victim, you help the villain more then the act itself did. How can you define what is "safe" and what is not? Here are 3 situations...
1. You are drunk in a bar, you get into a bar fight with someone (lets just say you were trying to avoid it for the argument), you get knocked out.
2. You are walking down the street, and you get jumped and have your wallet taken.
3. You are walking around in a shopping mall, you know 6 martial arts and have 3 people with you, you get blown up in a terrorist attack.
In what case is the victim at fault? All? None? If you can't define a hard set of definitions, then don't define any. You will only end up being wrong and hurting more people more then they would have been without you.
Not to mention, this "punish the victim" (say it isn't all you want, that IS what you are saying) only would contribute to people being afraid to report crimes more then before. Why would I call the police if I got mugged if I knew I was going to jail? All you are doing is supporting crime and hurting people by making there be less reason to speak up.
Also, you say how good your kids are... ever think they may just be good around you? Even the worst of enemies could come to an agreement to protect each other equally.
You are the epitome of all that is wrong with society as a whole, and I guess you are happy about that. Regardless of anything in the world, you will ALWAYS be doing something risky. Lets take YOUR view and apply it to real life:
A bank has a full contingent of security guards. You notice a fire down the street and send them to help save people from the burning building. A robber notices you did this, and takes the opportunity to rob the bank. In your world, the bank would be fined for trying to help the people that would have died. All you are doing is solidifying the fear society is built around; you are not making your kids more able to deal with problems, just more able to run from them. You are teaching your kids how to be cowards and run from anything that may pose a danger, no matter the reason.
But in the end, you can never seal yourself in a little metal box. There is always danger, and according to you, it's your fault for it existing. Teach your kids to deal with danger and their problems, not how to be cowards and run from it.
Just because the world is full of killers doesn't mean you have to be one.
Hey... I am speaker of the Concerned Azukan Technocrats of the East, and I would like a verison to... inspect myself. I would also like free accounts to porn all sites; to make sure there is no child porn.
That's the reason religions don't control people here. Or more, the reason the gov tells you they don't...
*GASP* Blasphemy! Bush is god, so if he says there is bird flu, it's because he made it! Wait a second... that maybe right...
"We are sorry, your views are not compatible with this universe."
RIAA: "Bad... PR? What is this, bad PR?"
That's all fine and good - but the fact is they are violating our rights, regardless of if we download anything or not. I had this argument with a hippy the other day; you cannot simply say "Good bye!" and walk away. Are you are doing is running from the problem, and it WILL find you, no matter how hard you run.
Lets take a look at how the RIAA sues people even when they didn't do anything (this case, suing kids, I am sure open wifi has been sued over). How sure are you that this will not happen to YOU? You are not.
Lets look at how they shut down sites with perfectly legit uses (some cases with non-legit, too, but that only highlights the fact you will always have it). Lyrics sites? Tabs sites? I am sure both types of sites hosted tabs and lyrics of non-RIAA "artists", but they were collateral damage.
In the end, you cannot stand up and say "Goodbye RIAA!" because they WILL always affect you, even if you don't "steal" (moronic shock word, akin to terrorist). So sure maybe not downloading their stuff is a start - but not buying or downloading it will only make them think they lost sales due to piracy, and it's only a matter of time until you lose other, non-related rights over that.
If you can't take the heat - get out of the job. Now if you had donations (if you really are doing so badly, this should be no major step back) you would probably get more, do a service to people (not being another greedy SOB) and eliminate any keyword problems that may came from people trying to crack it.
Solve the problem. The RIAA can't solve it your way, and they have more money then you would if everyone *bought* your notepad, so figure out a way to solve it. Crying about how hurt you are is only going to generate more spite and reason to pirate your toy.
Somebody set up us the battery!
I got it! Sony must be the new world order! It's been here the whole time... I bet they are even run by Satan "Stalin" Hitler. What... why are you looking at me like that?
You forgot to mention "think of the children!".
Just one thing; what TYPE of battery acid? Car or AAA?
Make sure to set it to best...
Doesn't this officially make 10.0 a beta? It's outdated before realise; sounds beta to me...
Clear as day. See the proof, "they both suck". Who started it is hard to say, though...