Oh, Ms. Executive! Than you for providing me the opportunity to buy Rush's Presto again! You see, it was the fourth piece of music I ever owned, and I got lucky - I really liked it.
I had a tape. It melted in the sun on the car seat.
So I bought another one. But I lose things, so I bought another one. But that time the tape player was bad, so it got wrapped around the player.
So I bought it again. In February oh, about 1990 by this point. In February. It snapped.
The next one got me through high school finals. Then fell into a river prospecting colleges.
One died in the school Cafeteria.
I got brave and bought a CD. But it somehow got onto the floor, and the chair leg wrecked it. So I went back to tapes.
Tape got swiped by someone in the dorm.
Tape got lost in St. Martin.
Tape still exists, in the imitation-walkman from the flea market, that I lost again.
Another tape. I left it when I moved.
Back to CDs. Lasted a while, then scratched.
Lost another one.
Traded for a Blind Guardian CD.
Needed one for a road trip. Nothing survives road trips. Least of all sanity.
Moved again.
One's at work.
One's at home.
Spare is also at home.
Paid for a download from New Napster.
Paid again for the work machine.
Bought 38 CD's from Columbia subscription, so I have 135 free CD's on credit not counting shipping. I think that entitles me to rip one for free.
Glad to know you're either too lazy to sign in or... too afraid to use your account.
The internet is a massive identity kaleidoscope machine. "Boys can't be boys" anymore. All it takes is someone who went a bit too far, and someone else whose Vendetta setting is on 11, and then his professional life is over.
Years of brand reputation can sink in hours. But unlike leaving small-town montana, the whole *world* knows *forever*.
But Dusty, you're inspiring me to think about assembling a "Slashdot FAQ" full of Citations Whenever Needed because the flip side of "getting tired of saying the same thing" means there is a finite list of cases.
I'm thinking of that other huge form with the check boxes. Holistically this "wouldn't be that hard" to do. I think we're slowly realizing that the age of Humor Memes is fading. We still dash off a couple for nostalgia's sake, but mostly when provoked into a MetaContext.
The software seller Offers to let you use the item you bought. That seems pretty clear.
Slashdot gets all whirled up in whether there was a valid Acceptance with Consideration. I think the trick is that the act of clicking a box and forgoing some kind of otherwise available right is Consideration that makes the Acceptance valid.
The mess hinges on whether a sufficiently deviously presented contract (EULA tricks) is sufficient to void the validity of the Offer. Consumer laziness is not *supposed* to be a valid defense, though it seems that culturally we're trying to make it one.
I'm starting to think people like that acronym. Are we so afraid at posting an intelligent and perhaps partly correct comment that we race to assure the discussants that "Not Lawyers Are We (NLAW)?
Assume everyone is not a lawyer. In rare cases a Lawyer-In-Hiding may choose to demote himself to Common Discussion status. Only when someone officially invokes their legal expertise (yet without "giving legal advice") should we assume they are Practicing.
I forget which name goes with "Don't attribute to ignorance what can be attributed to malice".
We're in a time of AggressionOdds. If you GET the nasty clauses, your corp can have lots of fun. If the users "uproar", oh well, no one will care next month. Then they can try again.
Actually gang, I think is is beautifully on topic.
NYCL, you made what I believe is a very important shift that I believe has far more important consequences than some here might think.
We sorta know that ads are the intermediary currency of the digital age. But unless you're a mercenary who risks not paying bills unless the highest payout/ad is chosen, I think carefully cultivating *ads with a message* is extremely important.
Maybe advocacy services would be another useful type of ad to host.
Nope. This is one of the key Push Came To Shove cases ever. If they emerge from this with nothing more than some token "serve a message on your page" thing, it means that at least one country will be a partial link to 21st century music sharing.
Then all someone else has to do is chain 2 more totally obscure links togther to make a legal chain.
Is it the ...
RIAA or the Tiger, that will eat you tonight? That will crush the spirited fighter...
Did you ... Did you?
Did you pay pay pay for that Lyric?
Don't Swipe That Song, Just move that cash right along!
Oh, Ms. Executive! Than you for providing me the opportunity to buy Rush's Presto again! You see, it was the fourth piece of music I ever owned, and I got lucky - I really liked it.
I had a tape. It melted in the sun on the car seat.
So I bought another one. But I lose things, so I bought another one. But that time the tape player was bad, so it got wrapped around the player.
So I bought it again. In February oh, about 1990 by this point. In February. It snapped.
The next one got me through high school finals. Then fell into a river prospecting colleges.
One died in the school Cafeteria.
I got brave and bought a CD. But it somehow got onto the floor, and the chair leg wrecked it. So I went back to tapes.
Tape got swiped by someone in the dorm.
Tape got lost in St. Martin.
Tape still exists, in the imitation-walkman from the flea market, that I lost again.
Another tape. I left it when I moved.
Back to CDs. Lasted a while, then scratched.
Lost another one.
Traded for a Blind Guardian CD.
Needed one for a road trip. Nothing survives road trips. Least of all sanity.
Moved again.
One's at work.
One's at home.
Spare is also at home.
Paid for a download from New Napster.
Paid again for the work machine.
Bought 38 CD's from Columbia subscription, so I have 135 free CD's on credit not counting shipping. I think that entitles me to rip one for free.
Does it?
Lookee here gang.
Ray nailed a +5 on the FP slot, so no one bothered with the usual 6 leadoff trolls.
Yo, Mr. Taco! Can members get a special perk for high-grade FP's? The whole board topic improves in quality!
"It's worse than that Jim".
If used with the email worm on your less savvy coworker, it will infect HIM (her, or it) ... and really BE coming from your coworker.
What are the regulations in Sweden?
Is this what happened to the companies that used to make Scratch n' Sniff stickers in the 1980's?
You mean 21.35%.
Market Share is the year divided by 100.
Hi AC.
Glad to know you're either too lazy to sign in or ... too afraid to use your account.
The internet is a massive identity kaleidoscope machine. "Boys can't be boys" anymore. All it takes is someone who went a bit too far, and someone else whose Vendetta setting is on 11, and then his professional life is over.
Years of brand reputation can sink in hours. But unlike leaving small-town montana, the whole *world* knows *forever*.
I just installed that extension, so we'll see what fun it may be.
Come on mods, that's not flamebait.
But Dusty, you're inspiring me to think about assembling a "Slashdot FAQ" full of Citations Whenever Needed because the flip side of "getting tired of saying the same thing" means there is a finite list of cases.
I'm thinking of that other huge form with the check boxes. Holistically this "wouldn't be that hard" to do. I think we're slowly realizing that the age of Humor Memes is fading. We still dash off a couple for nostalgia's sake, but mostly when provoked into a MetaContext.
Lessee just how senile I am yet.
Offer
Acceptance
Consideration
(Capacity)
(Legality)
The software seller Offers to let you use the item you bought. That seems pretty clear.
Slashdot gets all whirled up in whether there was a valid Acceptance with Consideration. I think the trick is that the act of clicking a box and forgoing some kind of otherwise available right is Consideration that makes the Acceptance valid.
The mess hinges on whether a sufficiently deviously presented contract (EULA tricks) is sufficient to void the validity of the Offer. Consumer laziness is not *supposed* to be a valid defense, though it seems that culturally we're trying to make it one.
I'm starting to think people like that acronym. Are we so afraid at posting an intelligent and perhaps partly correct comment that we race to assure the discussants that "Not Lawyers Are We (NLAW)?
Assume everyone is not a lawyer. In rare cases a Lawyer-In-Hiding may choose to demote himself to Common Discussion status. Only when someone officially invokes their legal expertise (yet without "giving legal advice") should we assume they are Practicing.
Makes me start thiking about ways "not to sell" the widget.
Loan, enforced by DRM? That would be beautiful. "Dear Wisconsin. Since the RIAA has 'proven' that we do not buy music, we do not owe sales tax on it."
Sorry, just now noticing the icon that Slashdot uses for Microsoft for ten years doesn't qualify as earning geek points.
+1 Informative Acronym FTW!
Was that the phraseology Back In The Day, or your cleverness?
You hit on the phrase that's the extra-oomph scary part. I'm easily a midrange user ... but no expert. I have no idea how to do all this stuff.
And in my day I played with the scissors, ate the matches, and ran/tumbled in the dirt and also survived.
Hi.
Those are my Mannheim Steamroller Halloween CD.
"Ignorance"?
I forget which name goes with "Don't attribute to ignorance what can be attributed to malice".
We're in a time of AggressionOdds. If you GET the nasty clauses, your corp can have lots of fun. If the users "uproar", oh well, no one will care next month. Then they can try again.
Actually gang, I think is is beautifully on topic.
NYCL, you made what I believe is a very important shift that I believe has far more important consequences than some here might think.
We sorta know that ads are the intermediary currency of the digital age. But unless you're a mercenary who risks not paying bills unless the highest payout/ad is chosen, I think carefully cultivating *ads with a message* is extremely important.
Maybe advocacy services would be another useful type of ad to host.
Yes!
+1 Seuss
Nope. This is one of the key Push Came To Shove cases ever. If they emerge from this with nothing more than some token "serve a message on your page" thing, it means that at least one country will be a partial link to 21st century music sharing.
Then all someone else has to do is chain 2 more totally obscure links togther to make a legal chain.