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Cold-War Era Naval Vessels Up For Grabs
mcleland lets us in on a Wall Street Journal story about two cold-war era, formerly top-secret vessels the US Navy is trying to give away. At issue are the Sea Shadow (the ancestor of all modern naval radar-evading technology) and the Hughes Mining Barge (a floating dry-dock and more-or-less base for the Sea Shadow). While the ships are being 'given away,' there are multiple regulations involved, making the gift a very costly one. "A Naval Museum is 'a bloodthirsty, paper-work ridden, permit-infested, money-sucking hole,' warns the Historic Naval Ships Association. Because the Navy won't pay for anything — not rust-scraping or curating — to keep museums afloat, survival depends on big crowds."
I hope they come with sharks with lasers on their frikkin' heads.
maybe they could make a giant replica out of lego?
A Naval Museum is 'a bloodthirsty, paper-work ridden, permit-infested, money-sucking hole,' warns the Historic Naval Ships Association.
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first post?
Anyway, it's not "giving" it away, if they ask 25 million for it...
--- "To pee or not to pee, that is the question." ---
...hold out for an exhumer, man!
There are battleships for sale also. $15 jeeps, old broken trucks -- the government tries to sell whatever it can. I used to visit a computer junkyard, and they'd buy tractor-trailors full of decommissioned computing equipment. We got all kinds of neat toys from there, including some pretty standard usable stuff. What I want, is to buy the SS Consoleeza Rice, and park it in the Great Pacific Garbage Patch, and live there. However, anything that is large enough and floats should be okay.
Zhrodague.net - I do projects and stuff too.
He really believed Nixon when he told him there was all that gold in the continental shelf.
I keed I keed! To be fair, this wouldn't be the first time they've sold off K-129 salvage gear. The Glomar Explorer herself is leased out and operated for commercial deep-sea oil drilling.
Don't blame me, I voted for Baltar.
Rough water stabilized, diesel electric propulsion and radar stealthy. Me likely. I want to live on it. Too bad it would probably cost a fortune to move and retrofit. The ultimate party boat, though it would be a little tough to fish off the back.
And you could always fit it with missiles and have endless fun making the great navies of the world think they were shooting at one another.
That's our life, the big wheel of shit. - The Fat Man, Blue Tango Salvage
What if I didn't put them as a Museum? Instead, I'll use them as part of my dastardly plot to steal missiles from a British vessel lost in the South China Sea due to tampering with the GPS signal. Then use those missiles to provoke a war between China and Great Britain.
Do you think they will still let me have it?
One of our competitors trademarked the term "hypothesis". From now on, we will call them "boneheaded ideas".
to keep museums afloat
He deserves it for this one.
My webcomic
Step 1: Acquire free Naval floating base.
Step 2: Fill said base with servers, generators and networking gear.
step 3: Profit!
Companies looking to build floating data centers could be the people to unload these things to. That or have your very own Sea World like base if you can anchor it in international waters. Properly cleaning them up would be the most cost prohibitive as I am sure they are filled with asbestos.
That quote really sounds awesome if you say it with a pirate voice!
Once...just once I want to see a first post similar to these kinds of stories get modded +5 informative.... that would make my day.
This boat is described in the book "Skink Works". The navy didn't want it because it didn't have a paint locker.
Who would win this election: Andrew Weiner vs Andrew Weiner's weiner.
And that is where the genius of metamoderation comes into play. You never make a mod like that because you'll get metamodded into oblivion.
"That ship belongs in a museum!" ...
"So do you!"
What are the regulations in Sweden?
My first Journal Entry ever, in 8 years! http://slashdot.org/journal/365947/aphelion-scifi-fantasy-horror-poetry-webzine
What is really weird is that I'm reading the Jennifer Morgue right now. The book starts with the operations.
Space Shuttle was a program that strapped humans to an explosion and tried to stab through the sky with fire and math
TANSTAAFS. :-)
The Chinese Federation is challenging our Holy Britannian Empire?
Very well, The stake is the world, prepare for battle...
All Hail Britannia!!
Where is the "Ignorant" mod tag?
I called it. It's going in my backyard.
Of course because metamoderation isn't flawed, not in the least.
-- A troll who metamoderates regularly
From the webpage: http://www.fas.org/sgp/news/2006/09/fr091406.html Other ships that are currently available for donation include: (1) Patrol Combat ex-CANON (PG 90), Philadelphia, PA. (2) Guided Missile Destroyer ex-CHARLES F. ADAMS (DDG 2), Philadelphia, PA. (3) Destroyer ex-CONOLLY (DD 979), Philadelphia, PA. (4) Destroyer ex-EDSON (DD 946), Philadelphia, PA. (5) Submarine ex-TROUT (SS 566), Philadelphia, PA. (6) Guided Missile Cruiser ex-TICONDEROGA (CG 47), Philadelphia, PA. (7) Aircraft Carrier ex-RANGER (CV 61),Bremerton, WA.
I was wondering why I never seem to get modpoints these days :)
Good, solid advice, however, I would rather think about your breathing
Survival depends on the military-industrial-Congressional complex.
Good luck in your gulag.
Seditiously As Always,
Kilgore Trout
microhoo or googlesoft should take this and make it a floating data centre and close all its ports to keep it stealthy
All your base are belong to us
I asked my brother in-law AND my ex-brother-in-law, who both work for Bath Iron works.
You don't want this boat. Even for free.
One of them mentioned some ancient wisdom about being given boats for free...
deleting the extra space after periods so i can stay relevant, yeah.
Sounds like any other government project to me...
Why just make it a museum? I'm not familiar with navy tech, but I'd bet you could fix it up and turn it into some sort of roving marine research center or an interesting themed-cruise liner for the fairly-rich.
For the research center, with a floating dry dock you could probably modify it to also hold an unmanned underwater vessel.
For the cruise liner, you have something along the murder-mystery parties, but now it's a spy-theme. Everyone pays $X,000, and if you figure out who the spy is and what they're after, you get a prize of some sort (perhaps an extra cruise above the Shadow?).
Or combine the last two: a roving museum. Over a few days on the open seas, not only do you learn about the whole project and get to see some stuff in action, but you are also taken to various spots of interest. Sure, there won't be much to see out on the ocean, but I'm sure an enterprising individual could figure out how to keep attention for those moments. Everything in between is like a normal cruise liner, though I don't think they'd be able to install a pool on the ship.
Metamod yesterday (the first time I've metamodded in a long time) asked me to give a thumbs up/thumbs down to COMMENTS themselves. Not moderations of comments, it was actually asking me to decide whether the comment was good or not. I know this because 1) It told me flat out to vote whether the comment is good or not, and 2) only ONE of the comments I thumbed up or down had any type of moderation on it! The rest were just Score: 1 comments.
What in the hell happened to the old metamod system?
you can get a stealth ship that can pewpew n00bs with cruse missiles and nukes! A gank of thease would pwn ur exhumer before you can press omgwtf key! lo1!1
Forget a naval museum.
The ??? in this case has something to do with fending off the invasion claiming you're not a legitimate nation, but it's still a ??? because I have no idea how you're going to do that indefinitely.
Bunk space for 12 and a microwave is more then adequate.
Spain did get a hand-me-down Aircraft carrier from the US after WWII-- the USS Cabot. Operated it from 1967 to 1989.
Then some folks tried to set it up as a floating museum in America. It leaked a big slick of oil somewhere, and the coast guard charged the non-profit group $2 million for the cleanup. Not having the funds, they had to sell the Cabot in an auction for a winning bid of $187,000 as scrap. George Bush Sr. and some other ex-Navy big-wigs got involved and tried to purchase it at the Auction. No luck. The winner was an overseas scrapyard who was planning on towing it to India or some such place to chop it up. Perhaps at Bush's bidding, the federal government forbade the overseas company from towing it into international waters because it contained asbestos, which would violate international law to transport toxic waste in international waters or some such agreement.
Finally, the Cabot got chopped up on the Gulf coast of Texas.
Would have been cool to operate as a bed-and-breakfast out in the Gulf. Or perhaps a theme cruse ship where old Navy guys could dress in uniform and sail over to the coast of Japan where they could shout insults at their defeated enemy. Where is Disney when you need an investor with out-of-the-box thinking capabilities?!?
Seth
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I sometimes post high moderated stuff and I sometimes troll and I sometimes even use my regular excellent log-in to post. I metamod all the time and there's a handful of trolls that I click negative even when it's something valid. Thinking of you, spun (one of twitter's sockpuppets).
There's an organization that's trying to raise funds and navigate the bureaucracy in order to get the Ranger moved to Portland to form part of a new Naval museum. Frankly, I think their chances of success are slim, but it would be pretty cool if they got it all worked out.
I'm surprised the Ticonderoga is on there. The Aegis cruisers are still a major part of the fleet, although there have been a host of improvements since Ticonderoga was commissioned.
What the heck does this have to do with my post, aside from the fact that you metamod based on the identify of the person at times?
I'm also perplexed as to why I was modded troll above, unless somebody doesn't like offtopic yet meaningful chatter?
I would mod it off-topic because this was supposed to be a conversation about Cold-War boats and anal masturbation. Speaking of your mother, your mother is so fat when she jumps on the Stealth Boat, it becomes Red October.
'jollyreaper', I think your bar is set too high for the /. geek.
Hell, man, only Hollywood [shakened, not stirred] could meet your criteria!
Oh, wait a minute.....[face>palm] D'oh!
The hell with the sharks with frikkin' lasers!...bring on the fembots with machinegun jugglies!!!!
*ring...ring*
Gotta go find a Cone of Silence, my Shoe Phone is ringing...
note to self: quit posting while drinking!...not as funny as you think...
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In other ways it was a success. It did have a very low noise signature. The hull design did help it greatly reduce the ships wake, keeping it from turning up too much water.
Yes, the sun never sets in/on the British Empire.{1} [forget which is correct:*/+....it's been so long ago...;-) ]
Ah, yes...the Good Old Days! (new 'Battle Cry': Remember Hong Kong!![styled after 'Remember Pearl Harbor/the Alamo!' in the USA], and don't take no for an answer...be bold!), just remember Gunga Din.
{1} Not meant to be inflammatory or disrespecting my British cousins in the least.(cousins==literally and figuratively:-))*
*obligatory: [citation needed]:
I do have a double chin, you insensitive clod!...why do you think I grew a beard?! #tongue-in-cheek humour intended here#
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I, uhm, well, to be honest...*enters recursive, redundant loop*
I think I will quit here. [when in a hole...stop digging with a backhoe!]
I can see where this could be a problem of course.
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This should be of interest to 'The Pirate Bay' as a 'pirate/underground' server setup.
1. It has stealth tech
2. It has it's own service barge..that's submersible!
3. It can take up station out of [insert country/nation here]'s jurisdiction in International Waters[tm]
4. It is cool
*ignore the downsides to this idea(especially 3.- connectivity could be a nightmare!)-it's a joke!*
Down With Slashdot BETA!!! I've been around the corner and seen the oliphant; you can only abuse me from your perspecti
I'll bet this is how the aliens see it.
The Russians have won. They have made the world a cesspool of distrust, greed, fear and hate.
Can I buy an aircraft carrier and use it as a nucleus for a giant raft city filled with refugees.
The ship in question, and the floating dry in which it rests are here:
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=38.069464,-122.101327&spn=0.001824,0.003455&t=h&z=18
The box at the Northwest end of the row, contains the Sea Shadow. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_Shadow
Interestingly the ship on the other end of the row is the USS Iowa, a WW2 and Korean War Battleship. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Iowa_(BB-61)
-- QED
Made me laugh! Mod parent up!
-kgj
How is anal masturbation off-topic from anything having to do with the Navy? I thought all seaman were into that.
Your comment on ASW radar is spot on, but in fact it's even worse than that - readily available low-tech radar can pick up the wake from an aircraft. Unfortunately, too many people think they are smarter than the people in navies, whereas the truth is that navies tend to attract some extremely bright and forward thinking people.
From scarped cliff or quarried stone she cries "A thousand types are gone, I care for nothing, no not one."
You can see the same thing on a thread above where I commented, very briefly and intended humorously, on the point that to win a battle in the days of sail the British tactic involved very close bombardment indeed, perferably between wind and water at a range of a few feet. Moderated down. Moderated up were posts by people who obviously thought that Nelson, Drake and co. would have stood off a good long way and fired their guns using fire control computers. They and the moderators clearly haven't even been round a wooden warship, let alone been on one when the wind is blowing and the sea is up.
From scarped cliff or quarried stone she cries "A thousand types are gone, I care for nothing, no not one."
That'd make one king hell of a bass boat, I'll tell you what.