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RIAA About to Transform?

It has been reported for a while that the RIAA was suffering some cutbacks and dwindling support, but techdirt is reporting that the cuts may be even deeper than most originally suspected. Who knew suing potential customers would ruin your business? "I'm sure some will somehow 'blame piracy' for this turn of events, but it's hard to see how that's even remotely the issue. The real issue is that the RIAA has basically managed to run one of the dumbest, most self-defeating strategies over the last decade. Rather than helping major record labels adjust to the changing market, it continually, repeatedly and publicly destroyed its own reputation and the reputation of the labels — each time shrinking their potential market by blaming the very people they should have been working to turn into customers."

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  1. In demand as witnesses? by NewYorkCountryLawyer · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Well I would imagine the excess employees will be much in demand as witnesses.

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    1. Re:In demand as witnesses? by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 2, Funny

      No way! People willing to work for such an ethical and forward thinking organization would have more loyalty to each other.

    2. Re:In demand as witnesses? by LuYu · · Score: 4, Funny

      Well I would imagine the excess employees will be much in demand as witnesses.

      Then, let us all hope for the sake of the families involved that the MafiAAs do not make them mysteriously disappear.

      "The RIAA has announced a new severance package . . ."

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    3. Re:In demand as witnesses? by vux984 · · Score: 2, Funny

      "The RIAA has announced a new severance package . . ."

      I think its dubbed "Head and Shoulders"... er no that's a shampoo... "Head from Shoulders"!

    4. Re:In demand as witnesses? by Arthur+Grumbine · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well I would imagine the excess employees will be much in demand as witnesses.

      We've always known when it comes to the RIAA there's more than meets the eye, but witnesses would truly help expose their deceptive cons.

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    5. Re:In demand as witnesses? by khellendros1984 · · Score: 1

      Yes, we must expose the Decepticons!....Wait, you guys aren't talking about *that* kind of transformers, are you?

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    6. Re:In demand as witnesses? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Record Companies Seek To Ban Technological Progress by having ISP field engineers decapitate persistant downloaders with their trusty RJ45 Crimpers.

      http://www.gubuwire.com/?p=1541

    7. Re:In demand as witnesses? by gemada · · Score: 2, Funny

      like a horse head in a bed....except with people!

  2. RIAA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    TERRORIZE!!!

    1. Re:RIAA by Hordeking · · Score: 2, Funny

      TERRORIZE!!!

      I think "EXTERMINATE!!!!!! EXTERMINATE!!!!!!" is more appropriate here.

      Just throwing that out there.

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    2. Re:RIAA by Useful+Wheat · · Score: 1

      So you're saying we can't kill the RIAA because they're a useful plot device?

    3. Re:RIAA by Hybrid-brain · · Score: 1

      So you're saying we can't kill the RIAA because they're a useful plot device?

      well if the RIAA are like the Daleks......yes. and of course the Doctor.2 isn't around to go genocidially insane like he did in the last ep of Season 4. though maybe removing a few of the RIAA's close family members and loved ones from the food chain might make a difference as to whether or not the RIAA stays around.

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  3. Will it be... by jd · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...a Z Transform, a Laplace Transform or a Fast Fourier Transform?

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    1. Re:Will it be... by Ethanol-fueled · · Score: 1

      FFT of course, since we're dealing with audiovisual media.

    2. Re:Will it be... by geekoid · · Score: 1

      It will me Optimus Prime.

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    3. Re:Will it be... by LrdDimwit · · Score: 3, Funny

      I think I'm going with Decepticon.

    4. Re:Will it be... by DrLang21 · · Score: 1

      The real question is, what kind of filter will be used?

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    5. Re:Will it be... by SCPRedMage · · Score: 1
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    6. Re:Will it be... by EdZ · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Given the RIAA's usual complaints, a BAW filter seems appropriate.

    7. Re:Will it be... by geekoid · · Score: 3, Funny

      Ha, I beat you with my transformers reference by 2 minutes.

      Decepticons lose again!

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    8. Re:Will it be... by EventHorizon_pc · · Score: 1

      Though it would probably be implemented as a discrete cosine transform...

    9. Re:Will it be... by guygo · · Score: 1

      C'mon folks, it's a digital age. Time Domain, time domain, time domain. The Z transform applies!

    10. Re:Will it be... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Autobots? Decepticons? I'm thinking they're like the ship from Spaceballs.

      "She's gone from suck... to blow"

    11. Re:Will it be... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A FFT is merely one way to do an FT.

    12. Re:Will it be... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and how are z transforms and laplace transforms not used in audio-visual filtering? Please explain to those of us who have only had a few years of signal processing experience.

    13. Re:Will it be... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean a standard Reiman BS Transform Filter

    14. Re:Will it be... by ScrewMaster · · Score: 1

      ...a Z Transform, a Laplace Transform or a Fast Fourier Transform?

      I'm guessing a Lycanthropic transform. Look, when people who were once human change into something else, the result is usually highly unpleasant. I mean, we've all seen what happens when a normal, law-abiding citizen is infected with a lycanthrope or vampirism virus. Pretty horrific stuff, to be sure.

      I can only imagine what an RIAA lawyer will be like after he goes over.

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    15. Re:Will it be... by jd · · Score: 1

      I thought an RIAA lawyer WAS the result of going over. Or is it the result of a Greater Undead being possessed by a Greater Demon? (They do have certain similarities to Rolemaster's Black Reavers...)

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  4. O NOES!!! by Seriousity · · Score: 1

    This is terrible news! Who now is brave enough to fight the evil ones! Piracy funds Terrorism!!! Remember how every time you download a torrent you get an email from Al Qaeda saying "Thank you for your kind support"?! What will stop them now?!

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  5. Nothing but a rumor, yet... by Endo13 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Chasing down the links leads to this:

    http://www.hypebot.com/hypebot/2009/02/is-the-.html

    But one seemingly knowledgeable but unconfirmed source tells Hypebot that the cuts run much deeper than previously reported.

    And not much else. One can hope, but so far this is nothing but a rumor.

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    1. Re:Nothing but a rumor, yet... by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 4, Informative

      ...nothing but a rumor.

      Synonym for fact here at Slashdot.

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    2. Re:Nothing but a rumor, yet... by RiotingPacifist · · Score: 1

      alias actually, its right here in .slashdotrc
      alias 'nothing but a rumor'='verified fact'

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    3. Re:Nothing but a rumor, yet... by TheVelvetFlamebait · · Score: 1

      He's Score:5 Informative, so he must be correct! ;)

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    4. Re:Nothing but a rumor, yet... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Synonym for fact here at Slashdot.

      That's just a rumor.

    5. Re:Nothing but a rumor, yet... by ignavus · · Score: 1

      I have facts.

      You have anecdotes.

      He has rumours.

      This is how I decline the passive verb "to be informed".

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    6. Re:Nothing but a rumor, yet... by noidentity · · Score: 1

      Since SCO has quieted down, I wouldn't be surprised if the RIAA goes through a decade-long undead phase as well, the company-without-a-plan that keeps on going...

    7. Re:Nothing but a rumor, yet... by Mystra_x64 · · Score: 1

      If you repeat it many times and force others to do so... who knows.

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    8. Re:Nothing but a rumor, yet... by RiotingPacifist · · Score: 1

      you can get a wikipedia article on it?

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    9. Re:Nothing but a rumor, yet... by MacWiz · · Score: 1

      It seems to have worked for "downloading is theft."

  6. book publishers by cyborch · · Score: 3, Interesting

    If the book publishers are about to make the same mistakes as RIAA, then at least we know where they are heading now.

    1. Re:book publishers by cptdondo · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Yeah, too true. I quit buying music years ago when CD prices got ridiculous. I haven't bought (or downloaded) music for years. Now my daughter is getting into music, and surprisingly for our 40-years-of-age difference, our music tastes are similar, so we've been building our library.

      She's started sending me links to youtube videos of her faves. Sent one today. I gave it a quick listen at work; kind-of-liked it, went back to listen again at home and it's been taken down. Humph. No sale there.

      I end up buying about 1/4 of the music links she sends me. This just makes no sense at all - the music industry is shooting itself in the foot. All the younguns are growing up pirating music instead of buying it - because the industry has created such hurdles to getting music legally.

    2. Re:book publishers by rrohbeck · · Score: 1

      So far there's one big difference though: "Ripping" books is much harder than CDs. I've seen some scanned books and the quality is just what you pay for. OCR still sucks apparently.

    3. Re:book publishers by morghanphoenix · · Score: 1

      I do the same thing I do with computer games. If a game doesn't at least work with wine I don't buy it, no matter how much I want it, and I send the company a message telling them why I didn't buy it. If a band is on an RIAA label I don't buy it, no matter how much I want it, and I send the band and the label a message telling them why. The Kindle book require you to purchase audio rights? Don't buy it, and send them a message saying that you're not buying iit because of the Author's Guild suit. I'm not sure how much good it does, but it's better than supporting the people you complain about. If enough people were willing to sacrifice the things they want to prove that it is worth it, things would change. The RIAA diesn't give enough of a benefit to labels or artists for them to stay with it if they see a los of sales due to their membership.

  7. supporting companies outed by Dan667 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    While it is no doubt that the people who run the RIAA and IFPI have no idea what they are doing I also wonder how much of a contributing factor that people are putting 2 + 2 together and recognizing who supports the RIAA. Companies are very protective of their brands and sony, emi, warner bros, and universal do not like the negative image this is bringing them directly.

    1. Re:supporting companies outed by uniquename72 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Companies...do not like the negative image this is bringing them directly.

      Neither do the artists themselves, who seem to get lost in the "OMG PIRACY IS THEFT!!1!" argument.

      It gives me a warm, fuzzy feeling to go to a concert and hear the band say, "Thank you for paying to come see us, now go download our stuff illegally and fuck the labels who are fucking us!" (No, I don't download music and am not a pirate, although I don't care if others do and are.)

  8. Slashdot broken? by AdamHaun · · Score: 1

    Is something wrong with the site preferences? I disabled YRO but I see several of its stories on the front page.

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    1. Re:Slashdot broken? by Zordak · · Score: 4, Funny

      Slashdot broken?

      With that low user ID, you should have figured this out a long time ago.

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    2. Re:Slashdot broken? by sexconker · · Score: 1

      I've been trying to disable Slashboxes (the shits on the right) forever but they are always fucking there.
      FUCK.

    3. Re:Slashdot broken? by AdamHaun · · Score: 1

      *shrug* It worked fine until today.

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  9. Re:give it a fucking break by mlwmohawk · · Score: 5, Interesting

    take this infantile whining to torrent freak or the playground where such anti-corporate whining isnt seen as the transparent bullshit

    I don't think we are "anti-corporate" enough in the U.S.A. They've more or less destroyed the economy with short sighted strategies that can't see past a 3 month horizon.

    Businesses move jobs over seas. Umm? Who's going to buy your product? The list of offenses is pretty long from exploitation to pollution.

    or get a job and pay for music for a change.

    Um, I use Linux, where would I buy digital music that plays on my system and has any value? I want it on my home stereo (CD, DVD, or a Linux box) and my MP3 player. (which is not an iPod)

    I buy CDs if I really like the music, but I was so disappointed with Gnarles Barkley, one good song on a whole CD, I usually go to the library and borrow CDs.

  10. All I can say is... by jamstar7 · · Score: 5, Funny
    Yo, ho, ho, pass me the rum.

    I do, however, once RIAA is dead and buried, intend to dig them up once a year on the anniversary of their death just to make sure they're still dead.

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    1. Re:All I can say is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I do, however, once RIAA is dead and buried, intend to dig them up once a year on the anniversary of their death just to make sure they're still dead.

      For a moment I thought you're a necro and intended on having sex with its corps...

    2. Re:All I can say is... by HartDev · · Score: 1

      That seems like a lot of work, just tap into the feed that will ever vigilantly keep surveillance on that grave, I think more and more people are becoming aware of the zombie epidemic!

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    3. Re:All I can say is... by ProfMobius · · Score: 2, Funny

      RIAAphilia ? Now this one is twisted.

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    4. Re:All I can say is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just make sure you put them back in the ground before the sun goes down...

    5. Re:All I can say is... by Petrushka · · Score: 1

      I do, however, once RIAA is dead and buried, intend to dig them up once a year on the anniversary of their death just to make sure they're still dead.

      Why go for the high-maintenance solution? There used to be a one-shot tactic to take care of this kind of situation: (1) put in grave and firmly affix body to ground with stake through heart; (2) stuff mouth full of garlic flowers and/or communion wafers; (3) cut off head and place between legs; (4) cover in two metres of firmly-packed soil. Or, if you're feeling more Nordic, just do step 3 and follow up with lots of fire. I hope one of those'd take care of even the RIAA.

    6. Re:All I can say is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd advise bringing along stakes, silver bullets, a flamethrower, and some kind of weaponized UV ray emitter, just in case.

    7. Re:All I can say is... by ScrewMaster · · Score: 1

      Yo, ho, ho, pass me the rum.

      I do, however, once RIAA is dead and buried, intend to dig them up once a year on the anniversary of their death just to make sure they're still dead.

      For God's sake, don't pull out the stake.

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  11. Worse by nine-times · · Score: 4, Insightful

    each time shrinking their potential market by blaming the very people they should have been working to turn into customers.

    Worse than that, they were shrinking their market by blaming the very people who already were their customers. Contrary to the way we sometimes talk about it, "people who download music in violation of copyrights" and "people who buy music" are not mutually exclusive groups.

    Often enough, the same people who will spend money on high-quality convenient products that they feel are worth the price will also look for alternate channels in cases where they don't think the product they are being offered is high-quality enough, convenient enough, or worth the price.

    Now I'm not trying to excuse people who download music illegally. It's illegal. I don't do it. I don't advocate that others do it. I don't approve of it. I'm just pointing out that all those nasty/evil group of "pirates" and "thieves" that the music industry keeps blaming, vilifying, and suing-- that group has a fair amount of overlap with that industry's legitimate customers.

    1. Re:Worse by LuYu · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Now I'm not trying to excuse people who download music illegally. It's illegal. I don't do it.

      I am so sick of this argument. The RIAA never (as in: not once) sued anybody for downloading music. No matter what they said to the press, 100% of their "filesharing" lawsuits were for uploading. Further, it has never been conclusively established that downloading songs is illegal. In the Napster case, the judge stated that people using a service like Napster had the "effect of piracy". Just because something has the same consequences does not mean it is the same thing. On top of that, it has since been argued -- rather convincingly -- that music sharing increases sales because the heaviest downloaders are also the biggest music buyers.

      You can listen to the radio for free. Are you or the radio station doing something "illegal" when you tune in? Are radio audiences "pirates"?

      This whole "downloading == theft" thing is merely the RIAA's creation.

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    2. Re:Worse by n+dot+l · · Score: 1

      The only thing that makes me sad is that, despite not actually saving their business with all the law suits, they have still managed to (likely forever) change the way the people think about IP. It used to be not such a big deal. Yes, anyone that knew anything about computers (or was a friend of such) wasn't paying for media, but the record stores weren't closing either so nobody gave a damn. And even during Napsters glory days I knew tons of kids that went out and spent ridiculous sums of money on posters and t-shirts and concert tickets and, yes, CDs - because of having pirated a good chunk of a band's works. Now you can't even have a discussion about that without throwing in a disclaimer almost half as long as your actual message to point out that you aren't actually telling people to go out and break the law.

      Sorry to go a bit off-topic. It just depresses me that you (quite rightly) felt you had to throw in that last paragraph, even though the things you didn't say can be easily spotted, simply by reading your actual message.

    3. Re:Worse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly!

      I buy way more music than I used to, for the pure reason that I can try way more music for free by downloading it, ahem "illegally."

      I buy through iTunes, through CD, music I never even would have paid attention to in the past, had BitTorrent not existed, or sneaker net, either.

      Plus, as a music freak, I also like to buy concert DVDs, so I buy those, too, once I know a group is one I will really like.

      (I admit, I'm going to fewer concerts than I used to - and I always used to buy a lot of swag at concerts like clothing and other merch) but that's more because of family scheduling issues than anything else).

      The freer age of "try it and see if you really like it" of the Internet has made me way more of a content purchaser than I ever was before.

      It seems like the record companies forgot what the whole notion of a "free sample" is. The whole freaking Internet is a free sample.

    4. Re:Worse by nine-times · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I didn't say that "downloading == theft". I wouldn't. In fact, I've argued many times here on Slashdot that copyright infringement is not the same thing as theft, and people who are trying to equate them are being dishonest.

      However, there are many laws other than those against theft, and to the best of my knowledge, it's not untrue to say that copyright infringement is "illegal". Also, that copying copyrighted material without a license to do so is generally considered copyright infringement, and that the process of downloading something from the Internet includes "copying".

      I'm not trying to be controversial here. I don't believe that copyright was intended to prevent private individuals from enjoying copyrighted material without a license. It was more to prevent professional publishers from poaching off of each others' work for profit. On the hand, copyright does have a valid role in ensuring that artists are compensated for their work, and in the current legal formulation, I believe copying songs without buying them (outside of "fair use") is illegal.

    5. Re:Worse by nine-times · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It just depresses me that you (quite rightly) felt you had to throw in that last paragraph, even though the things you didn't say can be easily spotted, simply by reading your actual message.

      It depresses me a bit too. I've found that I have to tell people what I'm not-saying on a pretty consistent basis, or else I get attacked for saying things that I specifically did not say.

      I don't think we really listen to each other very well, and we don't think very deeply about what other people are saying. If we did, we'd often find that people who disagree with us are disagreeing for a reason-- maybe even a valid reason-- even if they're still "wrong".

    6. Re:Worse by zrq · · Score: 1

      The RIAA never (as in: not once) sued anybody for downloading music.

      Then what is this Sony v. Tenenbaum about then ?

      ... a guy who allegedly downloaded seven songs over Kazaa years ago when he was 17 and who is now facing a damages claim of $1 million dollars ..

    7. Re:Worse by NewYorkCountryLawyer · · Score: 3, Insightful

      They didn't know that he had downloaded any songs when they sued him. They sued him because he had made the files "available".

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    8. Re:Worse by bhiestand · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You made a little mistake... you didn't yell loudly, beat your chest, and say it in a more confident manner. You'll never get modded up this way!

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    9. Re:Worse by steelfood · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yes, but what GP is trying to say is that downloading isn't copyright infringement. The burden of obtaining authorization to distribute is on the person offering the goods, or the uploader. And it shouldn't be on the burden of the receiver to know whether the copy is obtained through legit channels or not.

      So people who download may be pirates, but they're not committing any crime or tort until they redistribute what they've downloaded. Whether it is moral or otherwise is another issue. But since copyright infringement is not theft, the data can't actually be "returned" and the owner of the files can't be charged with possession of stolen goods.

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    10. Re:Worse by Draek · · Score: 1

      Yes, but I believe the grandparent was merely trying to state that the one doing the actual *copying* (and therefore running afoul of copyright laws) is the uploader, not the downloader, and that so far the courts have seen it as such.

      It does make sense, IMHO, though it'd add an interesting loophole to copyright law: namely, when you download something off someone living in a non-Berne country.

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    11. Re:Worse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Let us not throw these "believe" words around. That implies some faith or personal conclusion that, when scrutinized, would hardly constitute as being as such.

      I'd like to follow more fact based approaches to things like this. Oh, and just because it might be "illegal" doesn't make doing that act inherently evil or wrong. Let's try to be careful with our words and debates about this topic.

    12. Re:Worse by nine-times · · Score: 1

      Yes, but I believe the grandparent was merely trying to state that the one doing the actual *copying* (and therefore running afoul of copyright laws) is the uploader, not the downloader, and that so far the courts have seen it as such.

      The courts do seem to have seen uploading as infringement, but I haven't heard of any rulings that suggest that download is not.

    13. Re:Worse by nine-times · · Score: 1

      The burden of obtaining authorization to distribute is on the person offering the goods

      Well though IANAL, I've read a few different arguments about this, including some rulings. It seems that they do distinguish between uploading and downloading in that copyright law talks specifically about offering distribution.

      This is where is gets weird in the context of how we deal with information in the digital age: copying happens all the time, so we think distribution is the key issue. However, copyright is specifically about the act of copying, and not about distribution. In order to go after someone for infringement, I would have to go after who copied the file. By having a file on my hard drive, even if that file is infringing, I'm not breaking the law unless I actually copied it. At least this is my understanding.

      That doesn't make the act of copying it legal, it just makes it incredibly hard to prosecute, particularly given that no special equipment is needed (you don't need a printing press or anything). So if the law stopped there, then I could sell millions of pirated CDs, and I could never be prosecuted so long as they couldn't prove that I actually did the copying.

      However, part of the copyright law includes that it's infringement to offer infringing copies for distribution, and that's much easier to prosecute.

      But it's not the case that copying is legal, and as far as I know there's never been a legal basis for saying "when something is copied over the internet, it's solely copied by the person from whose computer it is being downloaded, and not by the person whose computer it is being downloaded to." It seems like that any law like that would be problematic.

    14. Re:Worse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's a bit of a moot point nowadays, isn't it? On Bittorrent every downloader is also an uploader.

    15. Re:Worse by Khyber · · Score: 1

      Not when I cap my upload to the bare minimum required to keep the packets incoming. Fuck enforced ratio trackers. I hold my upload speed at 2 KB/s which could be practically any damned thing. I'd like to see how that argument holds up in court. "I couldn't make available because I absolutely restrict all outgoing transfers. The only things that do not get restricted are packets being sent out to request the next load of incoming packets."

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    16. Re:Worse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Apparently, even NewYorkCountryLawyer is contradicting you. When he says "They sued him because he had made the files "available"", what he really means is that he uploaded them (or, at least, made them available for downloading).

    17. Re:Worse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I - as a general media customer - hate the RIAA and its worldwide equivalents as much as the next guy, but your points are making my head spin a little.

      First of all, the whole uploading versus downloading argument you bring forth is just useless semantics. If there are no uploaders there are no downloaders and the same goes the other way around (duh). If an institution sues people within one part of this uploading/ downloading cycle, both parts suffer and individuals get sued either way (no matter if justified or not).

      And we all know that the RIAA doesn't give a flying **** about filesharing being legal from a juidicial POV, but how they can lock down the content and make the most profit out of industry standards, which they bend to their free will. They just have to wrap their heads around the fact that most people - after a various amount of time, some sooner, some later - realize that someone is trying to shove something sharp up their rear end (e.g. DRM) and that people will start to resist that, looking for alternatives. WHEN they eventually are going to monetize some kind of filesharing method and how good or fair or w/e to the customer this method will be is a whole other question.

      Oh, and the comparison of downloading versus listening to the radio for 'free' is a joke, right? It isn't free, since you as a consumer spend time and attention to intermediary broadcast ads that subsidize the station's content, which makes it exactly NOT FREE. I assume you already know that. Just saying.

    18. Re:Worse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I didn't say that "downloading == theft". I wouldn't. In fact, I've argued many times here on Slashdot that copyright infringement is not the same thing as theft, and people who are trying to equate them are being dishonest.

      However, there are many laws other than those against theft, and to the best of my knowledge, it's not untrue to say that copyright infringement is "illegal". Also, that copying copyrighted material without a license to do so is generally considered copyright infringement, and that the process of downloading something from the Internet includes "copying".

      I'm not trying to be controversial here. I don't believe that copyright was intended to prevent private individuals from enjoying copyrighted material without a license. It was more to prevent professional publishers from poaching off of each others' work for profit. On the hand, copyright does have a valid role in ensuring that artists are compensated for their work, and in the current legal formulation, I believe copying songs without buying them (outside of "fair use") is illegal.

      What is your contention? Sentence one says downloading isn't theft, sentence three say copying without buying is illegal...

      Oh, I get it... you really like ITunes.

    19. Re:Worse by NewYorkCountryLawyer · · Score: 2, Insightful

      what he really means is that he uploaded them

      No, because there was no evidence that he uploaded them, either.

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    20. Re:Worse by NewYorkCountryLawyer · · Score: 1

      copyright law talks specifically about offering distribution

      No it doesn't. (There is a single case that does say that, but there are 3 other better reasoned cases proving that that case was wrongly decided).

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    21. Re:Worse by NewYorkCountryLawyer · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The courts do seem to have seen uploading as infringement

      The issue hasn't come up yet; there hasn't been an RIAA case with any evidence of uploading... at least not of which I am aware.

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    22. Re:Worse by NewYorkCountryLawyer · · Score: 1

      people who download may be pirates

      "Piracy" is not a synonym for "copyright infringement". It is a subcategory of "copyright infringement"... largescale commercial reproduction of exact copies for resale.

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    23. Re:Worse by nine-times · · Score: 1

      I'll take your word for it that I'm wrong (obviously you're more versed than I am), but I did read one of the decisions where the judge said that offering files for distribution was infringement (and even cited some particular statute, IIRC), but that "making available" was not "offering for distribution".

      I must be mistaken in some part of my analysis or recollection, but I wouldn't mind if you explained more. If you know what case I'm talking about, what am I misunderstanding?

      (Genuinely interested, not being a smart-ass)

    24. Re:Worse by LuYu · · Score: 1

      it's not untrue to say that copyright infringement is "illegal".

      If the assumption that all suspected or accused (not convicted) copyright infringement is illegal is made, then it is untrue. A fair way to think of Fair Use is as a form of "legal infringement". It is definitely infringement, but in some cases that infringement is deemed to be legal because the copyright holder would be unreasonable to make a claim against that activity or enforcement would be impossible or enforcement would be ludicrous or violate one's other rights (like the Right to Free Speech).

      I'm not trying to be controversial here. I don't believe that copyright was intended to prevent private individuals from enjoying copyrighted material without a license. It was more to prevent professional publishers from poaching off of each others' work for profit.

      I could not agree with you more, and if copyright was so limited (as it was intended to be), we would not be having this discussion.

      I believe copying songs without buying them (outside of "fair use") is illegal.

      Here is the question: How do you compensate artists without compensating the RIAA? Can caveat emptor work in a world where we are required to pay the middle man? I really do not want to monetarily contribute to an organization that actively extorts large amounts of money from ordinary and innocent people.

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    25. Re:Worse by LuYu · · Score: 1

      The RIAA never (as in: not once) sued anybody for downloading music.

      Then what is this Sony v. Tenenbaum about then ?

      ... a guy who allegedly downloaded seven songs over Kazaa years ago when he was 17 and who is now facing a damages claim of $1 million dollars ..

      Are they making the claim because those songs were in his "shared folder"? You should be careful about the language reporters use in their articles. If the RIAA says to a judge, "John Doe was distributing File A over the internet and is guilty of infringement", they will turn around and say "John Doe downloaded Song A over the internet. John Doe is a thief!"

      This practice is quite a lot like what SCO did. In court, "IBM is violating a license agreement in these specific ways." To the press, "Linux users are stealing our intellectual property, and they are going to have to pay."

      If it is not obvious by now, the RIAA's press statements are no more truthful than SCO's (we all know where that went), and reporters generally do not speak or write English well enough to understand the difference. So when you see a statement like "allegedly downloaded seven songs over Kazaa", you should keep in mind that reporter probably has no idea what the difference between downloading and uploading are, does not know the difference between theft and copyright infringement, and only reports something when the RIAA seems likely to have a rare judgement that goes its way.

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    26. Re:Worse by LuYu · · Score: 1

      So, just to clarify and summarize: When the RIAA sued the student, there was no proof of either downloading or uploading. They just viewed those seven files in his shared folder. As NewYorkCountryLawyer has pointed out, they do not have anything except their tentative claim that he made the songs "available" for other people to download. The RIAA has been attempting to claim this is synonymous with distribution -- which is a stretch at best.

      Further, I would like to state that none of those things I said about reporters relate, even remotely, to PJ or Groklaw. PJ knows her stuff, both the technical and the legal.

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    27. Re:Worse by nine-times · · Score: 1

      A fair way to think of Fair Use is as a form of "legal infringement".

      Well I don't really want to get into an argument about legal language. I would have said that "fair use" is not infringement on someone else's copyright, i.e. when I exercise fair use, I am not infringing on anyone else's rights at all.

      Not that might not be how a lawyer would say it, but if you want to know what I intended to say, it's probably safe to assume that, when I'm talking about "infringement", I mean to exclude fair-use cases.

      Here is the question: How do you compensate artists without compensating the RIAA?

      Well that is the question, isn't it? I don't know. I suspect that it won't actually be all that good to try to compensate artists directly (as a system), since that would force artists to spend their time chasing down their fees instead of creating.

      Also, it would probably force the whole system to become decentralized into lots of different stores and websites. That complicates things for the customers since it means it'll be more difficult to find the legitimate source for a given work, as well as raising security issues (giving your credit card info to some random band's website because there's not other way to pay them).

      I think you end up needing some kind of middle-man that can act as the infrastructure for distribution and receiving payments. If the record industry were smart, they would have gotten into that a long time ago. Instead, they've handed that business to people like Amazon and Apple. Maybe you'll start to see artists bypassing labels and going straight to distributors.

    28. Re:Worse by zrq · · Score: 1

      ... you should keep in mind that reporter probably has no idea what the difference between downloading and uploading are, does not know the difference between theft and copyright infringement ..

      In this instance I was quoting PJ from Groklaw.

      Pamela Jones, commonly known as PJ, is the creator and editor of Groklaw, an award-winning website that covers legal news of interest to the free and open-source software community. Jones is an Open Source advocate who previously trained and worked as a paralegal.

      I think she probably does know the difference between theft and copyright infringement.

  12. Meet the New Boss, by Neptunes_Trident · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Same as the old boss. Heh, Just because the RIAA transforms, does not imply that the copyright laws they try to enforce or fight for have changed. Slam them all you want and call'em a failure, as far as I'm concerned this means nothing. When the laws change toward cultural liberation, (like they used to be) only then will I celebrate. Only then.

  13. Re:give it a fucking break by Zordak · · Score: 2, Informative

    I use Linux, where would I buy digital music that plays on my system and has any value?

    Um, Amazon for starters? Or did you not realize that iTunes is not the only digital music store in the world?

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  14. Re:give it a fucking break by Chabo · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I mostly buy from a used CD store in town, and even if I find an occasional new CD there, it's well under the usual price (usually around $10 for a normal CD, I got Pink Floyd's "The Wall" for $15 new). Combine the fact that I don't care if I buy a used CD (EAC does a good job with mildly-scratched CDs) with the fact that I've only bought 2 CDs made in the last 5 years, and the RIAA probably doesn't like me, even though I'm a paying customer.

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  15. Re:give it a fucking break by Chabo · · Score: 2, Informative

    Unless Amazon added lossless support recently, I'd rather just buy the CD.

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  16. Music is dead by linebackn · · Score: 1

    Heck, with the way they have been suing everybody I'm surprised anyone still even wants music any more. Why even possess music when it is apparently such a dangerous thing? :P

    1. Re:Music is dead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe because for some people supporting an artist is about honoring an art form and not a political pissing match. I can see how an interest in music can turn into a rancid thing if you can never get above a bunch of bullshit from all sides.

      For those of you who think that this was an inevitable turn in a business model? Get ready for when the Pied Piper meets John Galt. Music is going to fail as an art form unless all you like is cheesy pre-programmed Casio beats and some illiterate thug rapping about how kick ass he is in his own mind.

  17. Re:give it a fucking break by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Um, I use Linux, where would I buy digital music that plays on my system and has any value? I want it on my home stereo (CD, DVD, or a Linux box) and my MP3 player. (which is not an iPod)

    This problem has been solved. Check out Amazon MP3.

  18. New business for the RIAA? by portnux · · Score: 4, Funny

    Maybe it will involve skinning puppies or pulling the horns off unicorns? Perhaps ripping the wings from butterflies? There must be and endless supply of ideas for the RIAA, given all their experience.

  19. Re:give it a fucking break by Ron_Fitzgerald · · Score: 1

    Or Sony's new Blu-CD which should hold enough data to keep the tracks in their original quality.

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  20. Shutdown one Industry in support of another by HartDev · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I am not gonna make remarks that are uber pro-piracy, but I will say this about the RIAA, they should have seen this many years ago, they were just stubborn.

    The market for blank media was not going to go away, and it was going to be filled with downloaded music, now regardless that it is illegal to download copyrighted material did not slow anyone down. And just like the article mentioned, it only soiled the name of those who tried to stop it, yeah I am talking about how people like Metallica a whole lot less.

    Being Pro or Anti piracy aside I do not feel for the RIAA losing money (if in fact they did lose any money, and if that money was a substantial amount) because they blatantly starred the changing times in the face ignored all possible opportunities it could have afforded them, and now, just like the banks and the auto industry they will cry about how the oldschool ways don't work anymore.

    I am glad that hard drives and blank CD's and DVD's are so cheap now a days!

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    1. Re:Shutdown one Industry in support of another by Petrushka · · Score: 1

      Being Pro or Anti piracy aside I do not feel for the RIAA losing money (if in fact they did lose any money, and if that money was a substantial amount) because they blatantly starred the changing times in the face ...

      I think that's a key point. It really doesn't matter whether any given individual is pro- or anti-piracy; public opinion has spoken, and is continuing to speak, very loudly. In the broader perspective individual morals just don't come into it: it's a demographic thing. Copyright law has gone too far -- and so, back the pendulum swings.

    2. Re:Shutdown one Industry in support of another by Tenebrousedge · · Score: 1

      The RIAA should have anticipated filesharing.

      We're not talking about oracular prescience here. There were three factors involved: firstly, music became digitized, in the mid seventies with various magnetic tape formats, and then in 1982 with the introduction of the Compact Disc. Back then, CDs contained a vast amount of information, far beyond the capacity of any home computer to store. Which brings us to our second point, that computer storage has been growing steadily for many decades and shows no signs of stopping. It should have been an obvious conclusion that at some point computers would be able to store one or more CDs worth of data, and transferring digital data from one medium to another is nearly always trivial.

      The real warning sign was of course the invention and popularization of the Internet. There's really no excuse for the Recording Industry to not have capitalized on this distribution channel. Napster should have been bought, not sued. It would have been a much better use of funds than getting the DMCA passed.

      The RIAA is a case study in how not to run an industry. Or they would be, if we didn't have the Auto makers to compare them with.

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    3. Re:Shutdown one Industry in support of another by HartDev · · Score: 1

      I am writing a paper for a class at my university and the thesis basically says that Piracy will help in the democratic process of media consumption, the teacher told me that I could not convince her that stealing is okay, and I that got me thinking, while it is stealing, my first reactions are 1. They got much more money than they'll ever need, 2. The artist makes about 2% of those overall sales and most artist have to live off of concerts and t-shirt sales. These are the common fallbacks, but I think we will have to look deeper if we are gonna make it less punishable to pirate media.

      I think of times like the Boston tea party, and the signing of the Declaration of Independence (I am in a history class right now) Both were flat out illegal, and both were fought over, attempting to punish what had been done.

      Yes it is illegal, yes it is wrong, but so what, I don't think I should pay a lot of money for something that can distributed so quickly and easy with so little overhead, I don't think I should have to pay to be bombarded with marketing and agenda loaded news. Most of all I am sick of all the bands and movies and show that have people saying they are just struggling artist and they are all about the "music" and then they are the opposite of what they sing about.

      If my economy thoughts are right, then the market is moving towards services, which I was not happy about at first, but after more thought I believe that more jobs will come about, you could have more local bands covering weddings and birthdays and stuff. Okay now I am just rambling, but I thank people for their replies.

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  21. Re:give it a fucking break by corsec67 · · Score: 1

    Or did you not realize that iTunes is not the only digital music store in the world?

    Yeah, there are a few CD stores around. Even Wal*Mart sells CDs.

    (CDs being digital and all...)

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  22. Lesser of two evils by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

    Sure, piracy funds terrorism, but if you actually give money to the record companies, most of it winds up in the hands of Columbian drug cartels! You don't think they get DJs to play the latest pop stars they are pushing by appealing to their musical tastes, do you? Nope, it's mostly nose candy under the table.

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    1. Re:Lesser of two evils by LuYu · · Score: 1

      ... but if you actually give money to the record companies, most of it winds up in the hands of Columbian drug cartels! You don't think they get DJs to play the latest pop stars they are pushing by appealing to their musical tastes, do you? Nope, it's mostly nose candy under the table.

      Ohhh. So that is why so many artists do drugs... It is a perk from their employers... Now I understand!

      ;-)

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    2. Re:Lesser of two evils by indi0144 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      What does one thing have to do with the other, as if just BAD DRUGS are the source of income for Cartels in general around everywhere. May it be Coffee? yeah there is a cartel there, you don't have to shoot someone to make damage because you can pay farmers a misery for their products (as in the Colombian cartel of coffee) so they will grow dope instead, dope that it's so friking hard to sell there as nobody want that shit.

      Someone made a comic strip this year about it

      Even if it's something non related, Juan Valdez and Mule SUED the guy And he apologized rather quickly.. srcsm/ I think he was just afraid of the mule /srcsm

      So maybe now IT professionals and their high intake of Coffee, and also trendy snobs on starbucks are sponsoring drug production.

      BTW theres no Muslim Turrurists (TM) here.. the only terrorist here is the one Bushy boy help to get elected.

      and the oblig..

      also, fuck you.

    3. Re:Lesser of two evils by Draek · · Score: 1

      Dude, I think you have Aspergers because that must've been the single biggest WOOOSH! I've ever seen. Srsly.

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    4. Re:Lesser of two evils by azenpunk · · Score: 1

      that comic is syndicated, publishers don't like controversy or bad press or lawsuits. it's far more likely that any threats made to the cartoonist came from his publishers.

    5. Re:Lesser of two evils by indi0144 · · Score: 1

      yes I know wooosh on me! FGJ!, but I was thinking in making a point also, the fact that at least 2 people think is interesting is because you can apply the same logic on to the music cartel.

      Music? music nowadays S-U-C-K

      But I'd pay for original track data (digitalized tape tracks onto multichanel FLAC's) It can be premium product, but they hire more lawyers than creative people.. because is not that music is something like "art", no sir.

  23. Wonder Twin Powers, Activate! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    RIAA: Form of a Tyrannosaurus Rex!
    MPAA: Shape of a rotting ham!

  24. Re:give it a fucking break by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    and they sell music in Ogg? or one of the other open source formats? flac?

    why would we want to buy a digital download that sounds like it's been drug through the gutter?

    oh wait - that's what most of the new canned music content from the RIAA sounds like before it's been sampled at such low bit-rates for re-sale.

  25. Re:give it a fucking break by SCPRedMage · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Blu-spec CDs are just CDs. They hold no more data than a regular CD. The only difference is that the masters are made with a blue laser instead of the standard red laser, which supposedly lowers their error-rates.

    Blu-spec CDs are nothing more than a marketing gimmick.

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  26. Re:give it a fucking break by Aazzkkimm · · Score: 1

    Blu-CD will store no more data that a regular CD. They just use a blue laser to write the master.

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  27. The RIAA is going to get you by Biff+Stu · · Score: 2, Funny

    Did you pay a commission for that lyric?

  28. Re:give it a fucking break by Chabo · · Score: 3, Informative

    Nope. Blu-CD is compatible with regular CD players, and still plays back at 16-bit, 44.1kHz. The theoretical quality of the output audio is exactly the same. The only difference is that the physical process of making the CD will be more precise, so playing a Blu-CD back in realtime on a regular CD player will, Sony hopes, give better measured output quality.

    However, if you rip a Blu-CD and a regular CD to a computer using cdparanoia or Exact Audio Copy, you'll get exactly the same files.

    In short, if you rip your CDs, Blu-CD will give you no benefit. If you play your CDs on a home-theater system, however, if Sony implements the technology correctly you'll get fewer playback errors.

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  29. Transforming, but not in a good way by mysidia · · Score: 5, Interesting

    With RIAA Lawyers running the DOJ, the RIAA is transforming into a US government agency.

    Now their antics re. DoS'ing suspected torrent sites will not only be legal but an act of the gov't.

    Not only will gov't money will be budgeted for catching the file traders, and probably some money from the economic stimulus packages to help bail out the recording industry and encourage innovation, it will be a gov't initiative.

    Along with a new and improved patent enforcement department to help make it more cost-effective for companies having difficulty collecting license fees from people infringing on patents like one-click (due to millions of small infringers, and formerly expensive legal processes required to enforce a patent)

    1. Re:Transforming, but not in a good way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      DoS'ing suspected torrent sites will not only be legal but an act of the gov't.

      I wish I could write all of these fucking ridiculous predictions down so I could come back and rub them in your face in 10 years.

    2. Re:Transforming, but not in a good way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not only will gov't money will be budgeted for catching the file traders, and probably some money from the economic stimulus packages to help bail out the recording industry and encourage innovation, it will be a gov't initiative.

      This post scared the crap out of me, so don't be surprised if one day I as a non-American citizen, just suddenly block the entire Continental USA by using massive IP Block Lists.

      You know, just to be safe that I'm not being:

      A) Spied Upon.
      B) Sued from abroad (Bankrupted).
      C) All of the above.

      Google is Skynet, RIAA is bought out by Google and becomes its weapons devision.

  30. So... Decepticons? by mc1138 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Does this mean the RIAA is more than meets the eye?

    1. Re:So... Decepticons? by Suchetha · · Score: 1

      No.. it's gone from a giant monolith that brakes for nobody to a huge entity that will suck the air out of our atmosphere (and possibly charge us for using it)

      Hopefully, soon after that they'll go from suck to blow

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  31. Cue evil music by nurb432 · · Score: 2

    Its not over yet.. Transforming isn't always a good thing.

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  32. It's a transformer! by wcspxyx · · Score: 5, Funny

    What, are they going to go from 'suck' to 'blow'?

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  33. Re:give it a fucking break by geekoid · · Score: 1

    Gosh, you life is miserable~

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  34. RIAA is about to die... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    -- RIAA, cease to be evil and admit you lost. Let's stop this senseless fight!
    -- Cough! Cough! Eh, it seems your last attack made me bleed internally... I'm sorry, this is something I wanted to avoid...
    -- What?
    -- B A N K A I !!

  35. RIAA: "Everybody online is a criminal or wannabe." by sehlat · · Score: 1

    I'll remember that as I micturate on their grave.

  36. Who knew? by Groo+Wanderer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Who knew suing potential customers would ruin your business?"

    SCO did. Worked for them as well.

                -Charlie

    1. Re:Who knew? by troll8901 · · Score: 1

      I think SCO didn't have many sellable products or services to begin with.

      RIAA, on the other hand, dominates the music industry.

      I think the keyword here is cash flow.

  37. AHH by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    SSJ RIAA!

  38. Re:give it a fucking break by commodore64_love · · Score: 1

    I always thought CDs were *pressed* not written. I don't want a CD-R that's written with laser (red, blue, or otherwise), since CD-Rs self-erase themselves (the dye fades). I want my CDs to have permanent pits pressed into them.

    Sounds like planned obsolescence to me. - "Not only does Blu-CD sound cool, but they include a special feature to erase themselves in 5-10 years. Less if you leave them sitting in a sunny car. This way you [the record companies] can sell the same CD again and again and again!" - Sony. "Brilliant." - RIAA

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  39. Re:give it a fucking break by Minozake · · Score: 1

    Wine doesn't always work, and I'm not paying $100+ dollars for a fucking bunch of shitty software.

    Got any more suggestions?

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  40. Re:give it a fucking break by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's no solution, it's polution of the music, which was already pretty toxic to begin with.

    Loss-less sampling is the only way to go, if they cannot provide that, then no-sale.

  41. Re:give it a fucking break by Ron_Fitzgerald · · Score: 1

    Did I have it way wrong...
    Now I don't see any need for blu-cd. Or any more physical media for that matter. Content delivery is the way to go.

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  42. "Meat Grinder" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That seems like a lot of work, just tap into the feed that will ever vigilantly keep surveillance on that grave, I think more and more people are becoming aware of the zombie epidemic!

    That seem like a lot of work. Instead just put it through the meat grinder and feed it to MPAA. There's hope they're toxic enough to kill MPAA.

  43. Re:give it a fucking break by Chosen+Reject · · Score: 1

    You don't need wine. You need a web browser.

    And what does the $100 comment have anything to do with what the GP said?

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  44. Top Self-defeating strategies in the last decade by gmuslera · · Score: 1

    1) RIAA
    2) SCO
    3) Microsoft
    4) Banks?

  45. Re:give it a fucking break by Chabo · · Score: 1

    And even if you wanted physical media, but wanted something better than a CD, DVD-Audio and SACD both provide multi-channel support, higher bitrates, and higher sampling rates. They're more DRM-laden than CDs of course, but DVD-Audio's been broken. So far, nobody cares enough about SACD to break it.

    I might buy a DVD-Audio disk of an album I like, just to see if it's worth it.

    That said, I do appreciate Trent Reznor providing FLACs, both in CD-quality format -- 16/44.1 -- and in 24/96.

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  46. Re:give it a fucking break by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Corporations spending money they didn't earn, working up ideas to get free anything *pay inflated maintenance costs later, but it looks great on the books now*, outsource jobs overseas, outsource data entry of your personal financial, medical and retirement records, make job cuts to cover losses due to multi-million dollar bonuses for cutting jobs previously, all while doing their best to cover up the fact that the companies are failing due to the cuts, overspending due to outsourcing (it costs upwards of 4 times as much to outsource a single position as to keep it insourced), so that the stock price can marginally rise a few cents so they can pay out a dividend and make the stock holders happy.

    yeah - that's right - corporations didn't do *ANYTHING* to mung up the economy...

    BULLSHIT you fucking idiot.

  47. Re:give it a fucking break by LuYu · · Score: 1

    Or Sony's new Blu-CD [link removed] which should hold enough data to keep the tracks in their original quality.

    Oh, yeah, that is a good idea, the RIAA is dying but instead of celebrating, we should all promote their sponsors' schemes to improve an antiquated distribution medium. That sounds like a good idea. Maybe Sony will come back and sue us directly now.

    Why would anybody promote anything developed by a company that put rootkits on CDs, crippled its once innovative technology with DRM, and told Stan Lee that it did not make a profit on a record breaking movie (Spiderman)?

    Sony.
    sucks.like.no.other

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  48. Transform into... COPYRIGHT MEGACRONYM! by Dahamma · · Score: 4, Funny

    Left arm: MPAA
    Right arm: IFPI
    Left leg: SPA
    Right leg: BSA
    Torso: RIAA
    Head: DMCA

    Combined: WTMGDL! (Way too many god damned lawyers)

    Hmm, any other suggestions for the copyright megacronym? :)

    1. Re:Transform into... COPYRIGHT MEGACRONYM! by Ragzouken · · Score: 1

      I call it, the macronym! Mwahahahaha!

    2. Re:Transform into... COPYRIGHT MEGACRONYM! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The International Digital Broadcasting Motion Picture Recording Publisher's Federation? That would be IDBMPRPF. Not even remotely pronounceable.

  49. Re:give it a fucking break by zippthorne · · Score: 2, Informative

    Ahh, but pressed from what? It's not like they have some kind of articulated pinbox with 6 billion elements.

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  50. What a shame! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was really pulling for them to win all those cases.

    /sarcasm

  51. Re:give it a fucking break by Chabo · · Score: 2, Informative

    The master CD is burned with a laser, then the distributed copies are pressed from the master.

    To be honest, I don't think Sony is out to get us with this one, because these are just regular CDs, made in a better fashion. It doesn't sound like there's any DRM involved. It might be too late for Sony to make any money off of it, but I don't think it's a technology to be avoided for any reason other than possibly price.

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  52. Re:give it a fucking break by davepk · · Score: 1

    Ahhh, That is exactly what they have.

  53. GRRRRR... by ssintercept · · Score: 1

    ...damn economy...

    it's hurtin' everyone.

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  54. Re:give it a fucking break by seizurebattlerobot · · Score: 1

    You cannot purchase whole albums on Amazon if you run Linux, only individual tracks. As a result, Linux users must pay extra, both in money, and in the amount of time it takes to individually purchase and download each track.

  55. From the new series by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Decepticons, transform and rise up!" - Megatron

    It's one of my favorite lines of his because it's so blatantly stolen from Prime.

  56. why suing customers was a bad move... by gowanus · · Score: 1

    this was a bad move by the RIAA because they didn't anyone would pay attention.

    well someone did.

    and it appears that enough help is being focused on particular cases that some unfortunate for the RIAA precedents have been or are going to be shortly set.

    lets not stop now. but score one for the internet.

    1. Re:why suing customers was a bad move... by NewYorkCountryLawyer · · Score: 2, Insightful

      this was a bad move by the RIAA because they didn't anyone would pay attention. well someone did. and it appears that enough help is being focused on particular cases that some unfortunate for the RIAA precedents have been or are going to be shortly set. lets not stop now. but score one for the internet.

      Agreed. They embarked upon a ludicrous campaign and they have lost. It is now all over except for the mopping up. Unfortunately for the families caught up in it, though, there's still a lot of mopping up.

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  57. Re:give it a fucking break by Plaid+Phantom · · Score: 1

    eMusic works fine with Linux. Well, I've not tried their download manager. But then, I never used it under Windows, either. It's not like it provides a significant amount of value.

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  58. Re:give it a fucking break by ameyer17 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Bzzt.
    First, Amazon's download manager is available for Linux*.
    Second, and more useful, IMO, http://code.google.com/p/clamz/

    It sucks that Amazon hasn't heard of the newfangled .zip format, but saying that you can't buy albums from Amazon on Linux is a lie.

    *Admittedly, it wasn't available when they launched the mp3 store, and it's a pain in the ass to get working if you're not running one of the 4 linux distro versions they make packages for, but it is available.

  59. Never truly transform! by wshwe · · Score: 1

    The RIAA will never really transform itself as long as the same eggheads are in charge of its member companies.

    1. Re:Never truly transform! by NewYorkCountryLawyer · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The RIAA will never really transform itself as long as the same eggheads are in charge of its member companies.

      I wouldn't call them "eggheads". I'd call them phonies.

      They are failures as business managers, and have been trying to scapegoat the blame to everyone but themselves... and have no concern for the harm they do.

      Meanwhile there are signs of a possible power shift: (1) the absence of new "John Doe" cases, (2) a possible change in lawyers (they did not use Jenner & Block on the Seeqpod case), (3) the firing of MediaSentry.

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    2. Re:Never truly transform! by troll8901 · · Score: 1

      Meanwhile there are signs of a possible power shift...

      Disclaimer: I'm not an American, therefore feel free to duct tape my mouth. :)

      1. If the legal cases succeed, will this possible power shift happen?
      2. If there's little public outcry, will this possible power shift happen?
      3. Why now (7 years) and not before?

      Are they really repenting, or simply calling in heavier artillery at all levels?

      Somehow, I feel they're changing only because of falling reputation and public outcry.

      What do you think? You don't have to respond if you're giving me duct tape as my Ash Saturday present.

  60. Re: NYCL FP FTW!! by TaoPhoenix · · Score: 0

    Lookee here gang.

    Ray nailed a +5 on the FP slot, so no one bothered with the usual 6 leadoff trolls.

    Yo, Mr. Taco! Can members get a special perk for high-grade FP's? The whole board topic improves in quality!

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  61. Re:give it a fucking break by gbarules2999 · · Score: 1

    Not true. I'm running Ubuntu and have done so. OK Computer for $2 was a resounding "YES," even if it's not lossless.

  62. Re:give it a fucking break by cibyr · · Score: 1

    Replying to undo mis-clicked mod. Meant to click "Informative".

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  63. Re:give it a fucking break by cibyr · · Score: 3, Insightful

    That said, I do appreciate Trent Reznor providing FLACs, both in CD-quality format -- 16/44.1 -- and in 24/96.

    I wish everyone did this. Even if I didn't like the music I would've bought Ghosts anyway just to support people selling music in good format.

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  64. Re:give it a fucking break by Killer+Orca · · Score: 1

    Personally I would like to know what precisely the definition of "mildly scratched" is because whenever I try using EAC a CD with any tiny nicks on it whatsoever gets errors out the ass. It also refuses to rip an accurate copy unless overread on the first an last track are checked even though half the time last track errors exist but don't affect the rip. Enough bitching about EAC from me, buying CDs used is the way to go if you find a store that has enough stock and a good policy.

  65. Re:RIAAphilia! or Rule 34 FTW!! by TaoPhoenix · · Score: 1

    Oh, Ms. Executive! Than you for providing me the opportunity to buy Rush's Presto again! You see, it was the fourth piece of music I ever owned, and I got lucky - I really liked it.

    I had a tape. It melted in the sun on the car seat.

    So I bought another one. But I lose things, so I bought another one. But that time the tape player was bad, so it got wrapped around the player.

    So I bought it again. In February oh, about 1990 by this point. In February. It snapped.

    The next one got me through high school finals. Then fell into a river prospecting colleges.

    One died in the school Cafeteria.

    I got brave and bought a CD. But it somehow got onto the floor, and the chair leg wrecked it. So I went back to tapes.

    Tape got swiped by someone in the dorm.

    Tape got lost in St. Martin.

    Tape still exists, in the imitation-walkman from the flea market, that I lost again.

    Another tape. I left it when I moved.

    Back to CDs. Lasted a while, then scratched.

    Lost another one.

    Traded for a Blind Guardian CD.

    Needed one for a road trip. Nothing survives road trips. Least of all sanity.

    Moved again.

    One's at work.

    One's at home.

    Spare is also at home.

    Paid for a download from New Napster.

    Paid again for the work machine.

    Bought 38 CD's from Columbia subscription, so I have 135 free CD's on credit not counting shipping. I think that entitles me to rip one for free.

    Does it?

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  66. Re:Pay! by TaoPhoenix · · Score: 1

    Did you ... Did you?
    Did you pay pay pay for that Lyric?

    Don't Swipe That Song, Just move that cash right along!

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  67. RIAA or the Tiger! by TaoPhoenix · · Score: 1

    Is it the ...

    RIAA or the Tiger, that will eat you tonight? That will crush the spirited fighter...

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  68. Re:pronounceable by TaoPhoenix · · Score: 3, Funny

    It is, but only with the second pair of cheeks.

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  69. Hope I had something to do with it. by NewYorkCountryLawyer · · Score: 2

    If they are being "transformed", I hope my work had something to do with it.

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  70. Re: NYCL FP FTW!! by NewYorkCountryLawyer · · Score: 1

    Ray nailed a +5 on the FP slot, so no one bothered with the usual 6 leadoff trolls. Yo, Mr. Taco! Can members get a special perk for high-grade FP's? The whole board topic improves in quality!

    Why, thank you, Mr. Phoenix. Actually I was feeling kind of guilty afterwards. I realized there was a chance mine would be the 'first post', but I knew it wasn't being written in the traditional 'first post' style. I felt that I was a spoilsport.

    I didn't plan it by the way, I just happened to see the story immediately after it turned from "red" to "green".

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  71. Re:give it a fucking break by mlwmohawk · · Score: 1

    Um, Amazon for starters? Or did you not realize that iTunes is not the only digital music store in the world?

    The issue is "what do I buy" if I buy a CD, I get all the tracks at the sound quality I want. These days, more often than not, "best of" are your best bet because most CDs have only one good song. MP3 singles are crappy quality and ther eis no option for lossless digital.

    Short of that, I'll go to the library.

    The MOST frustrating thing is that I like music, I'm willing to pay for it, but I can't actually buy a song that I like in a format that is usable. The music companies are NOT hearing their customers.

  72. Re:give it a fucking break by qubezz · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It's a technology to be avoided because it is from Sony. The same people that installed root kits on it's customer's computers. We shall not forget that they despise their customers.

  73. Not to burst anyone's bubble by Weaselmancer · · Score: 2, Interesting

    And I hope as much as the next guy that this means what it says in the summary. The RIAA is finally getting the results it has worked so hard for.

    But it might just be the crappy economy.

    Music is a luxury item, and they're usually the first thing to go when things get tough. This might be nothing more than a consequence of the current economic picture. I've seen massive layoffs pretty much everywhere lately.

    Sorry if this dampens the mood in here. But it's worth considering. The last thing we need to do is to start bullshitting ourselves. Seeing things as they are best prepares you to deal with them.

    But that being said, this is still a good thing. The less of these goons working the better. It would be nice if it was simply their just desserts for their failed plan, but if they go out as collateral damage to our ailing economy, well...at least some good has come from that.

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    1. Re:Not to burst anyone's bubble by Torodung · · Score: 1

      That's the first thing I thought too. Did President George H. W. Bush write this summary? It's the economy... (you know the rest).

      Unless we're claiming that RIAA lawsuits were the cause of that, too. If that's the case, Federal agents should be kicking their doors in right... about... ;^)

      One can always hope.

    2. Re:Not to burst anyone's bubble by NewYorkCountryLawyer · · Score: 1

      And I hope as much as the next guy that this means what it says in the summary. The RIAA is finally getting the results it has worked so hard for. But it might just be the crappy economy. Music is a luxury item, and they're usually the first thing to go when things get tough. This might be nothing more than a consequence of the current economic picture. I've seen massive layoffs pretty much everywhere lately. Sorry if this dampens the mood in here. But it's worth considering. The last thing we need to do is to start bullshitting ourselves. Seeing things as they are best prepares you to deal with them. But that being said, this is still a good thing. The less of these goons working the better. It would be nice if it was simply their just desserts for their failed plan, but if they go out as collateral damage to our ailing economy, well...at least some good has come from that.

      I don't think it's a "transformation", either; it's just a bunch of layoffs. I think the primary reason is that they're starting to fold their tents on the dumb litigation campaign against ordinary folks, and have finally woken up to the fact as to how much money they've been wasting.

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  74. Re:give it a fucking break by Draek · · Score: 2, Informative

    Um, I use Linux, where would I buy digital music that plays on my system and has any value?

    Magnatune.com, their collection of Classical music is huge and excellent, and as far as I'm concerned that's the only kind of music that has any value ;) though their Rock section has some pretty nice gems, too.

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  75. RIAA successful? by lpq · · Score: 1

    What if the RIAA was there to harrass customers until enough customers had transitioned over to Vista and Win7 where the DRM is more substantial and more songs are getting sold on iTunes and cellphones -- again and again and again -- .... its easier to download from the net to your phone that load up songs from your computer -- the purchase price is low enough that the songs purchases are have become what the music industry wants -- they want you to purchase the song each time for each device and form...2.99$ for a distorted ringtone version?

    The RIAA maybe was never meant to stop song downloading/trading -- just run harassment and make online trading a bit more of a hassle than downloading a song directly onto your phone or your iTune player... Between the virii /malware, fake software and media data streams... just run harassment until the online pay-per-download-per-device is in place.

    They played a part at a moment in time -- they may have been successful at their real mission -- now the economic downturn is bringing a swifter end to their mission, perhaps, but people are no longer buying new computers at the same rate...small devices are becoming more popular/prevalent. Perfect for the shrinking economy...

    I dunno if I'd call their mission a complete failure...

    just thinking...

    1. Re:RIAA successful? by Joce640k · · Score: 2, Informative

      Ummmm, DRM doesn't work. I thought we'd established that.

      DRM only ever hurts the paying customers. After they've been stung a few times it makes the pirate offerings more attractive. Downward spiral.

      The best way to make money is to, um, listen to the customers instead of dictating to them. The RIAA thinks this is crazy talk so they'll sink.

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    2. Re:RIAA successful? by NewYorkCountryLawyer · · Score: 3, Funny

      I dunno if I'd call their mission a complete failure...

      Well I always admire an independent thinker who's willing to go out on a limb and espouse a thought that no one else agrees with.

      You've certainly established your credentials.

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    3. Re:RIAA successful? by aurispector · · Score: 1

      So, the point was to alter the perceived value of downloading, to increase the cost of otherwise free music in order to make pay services seem like a better value? Makes perfect sense to me - the high profile lawsuits, caving in court whenever a precedent could be set. It all fits. I think they were unsure of how much success they would have in court and anticipated they would do better. The trouble is it's all going to be irrelevant.

      The other shoe that's dropping is the focus on international efforts to create the ACTA http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/02/07/071230 international copyright treaty. If they can get this thing passed, local laws will be irrelevant. My belief is that in most countries the process of becoming a signatory to a treaty is much simpler than getting a law passed on a national level, which simplifies the task for media industry shills with suitcases full of cash.

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    4. Re:RIAA successful? by ScrewMaster · · Score: 1

      DRM only ever hurts the paying customers.

      In the long run. In the nearer term, iTunes has been phenomenally successful.

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    5. Re:RIAA successful? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Until of course the DRM was killing it as we all knew it would, so it went DRM-free.

    6. Re:RIAA successful? by ScrewMaster · · Score: 1

      Until of course the DRM was killing it as we all knew it would, so it went DRM-free.

      Well, to be fair Jobs never wanted DRM in the first place. His goal was to sell hardware, lots of it, and DRM was not helpful in that regard.

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    7. Re:RIAA successful? by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 1

      And when it is all said and done, people will *still* only have the same amount of money to spend on entertainment.

      So if they completely lock everything down- at great and ongoing expense to themselves and their customers- it won't significantly increase revenues anyway.

      So it makes their entertainment more expensive than other entertainments and people will choose accordingly-- leading to a drop in sales- unless they drop their prices (I'd say .01 for songs from before 1960, .10 for songs before .1980, and maybe .25 for songs up to about 1990 is fair. $1.00 is only fair for the first year a song is out-- it's value falls rapidly as it falls out of sync with the culture.)

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  76. Concentrate all Fire on that Super Star Destroyer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This reminds of that scene in Return of the Jedi where the small star fighter takes out the super star destroyer after they attempt to "intensify forward batteries"....too late...arghhh! boom! The RIAA is going down to a fiery end all right and not a moment too soon.

  77. Transformation: oldest trick in the book by Triv · · Score: 1

    How much you want to bet that said "transformation" is going to include a name change under the hope (hopefully misguided, but you never know) that a fresh DBA will give them something akin to a clean slate now that the tides of public perception have turned against them a bit.

    It didn't work for Diebold (or whatever the hell they're called now. See? Fail.) and it probably won't work here, but it doesn't mean they won't try.

    Association for the Ethical Treatment of Harmonists, Entertainers and Recordings has a nice, scarily plausible ring to it.

    1. Re:Transformation: oldest trick in the book by NewYorkCountryLawyer · · Score: 1

      How much you want to bet that said "transformation" is going to include a name change

      I think the articles suggesting this is a "transformation" are a bit misleading. I think it's just a bunch of layoffs.

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  78. Re:pronounceable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    > It is, but only with the second pair of cheeks.

    Yes Brain, but where will I get someone to pull my finger every time I want to say their name?

    *narf*

  79. Good man! by troll8901 · · Score: 1

    Good man!

  80. Re: NYCL FP FTW!! by troll8901 · · Score: 1

    In the middle of the stadium...

    (crowd cheering) New York Country Lawyer! New York Country Lawyer!

    (NYCL smiles, thinking that a group of cheerleaders will soon appear and hose him high in the air...)

    Cowboy Neal runs out and lifts NYCL in the air.

  81. Re: NYCL FP FTW!! by Brickwall · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ZOMG! Even for /., this is self-congratulatory beyond the pale.. Also, fuck you. ;}

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  82. Where to direct our emotions? by troll8901 · · Score: 1

    Finally, a post on the member companies being responsible for RIAA's actions. You Sir, are a good independent, objective thinker.

    I'd say RIAA, being a trade group, is nothing more than a tool controlled by the member companies.
    Therefore, our emotions should not be directed at RIAA itself, but instead, should be at the individual companies.
    Skimming through Mr Beckerman's blog, I don't see "RIAA vs Joe", but rather "Company vs Joe".

    What do you think?

    P/S: I suspect some Web trolls can't even remember the names of the big 4. They simply like to pick a single entity - RIAA - to cast the blame on.

    1. Re:Where to direct our emotions? by NewYorkCountryLawyer · · Score: 1

      Finally, a post on the member companies being responsible for RIAA's actions. You Sir, are a good independent, objective thinker. I'd say RIAA, being a trade group, is nothing more than a tool controlled by the member companies. Therefore, our emotions should not be directed at RIAA itself, but instead, should be at the individual companies. Skimming through Mr Beckerman's blog, I don't see "RIAA vs Joe", but rather "Company vs Joe". What do you think? P/S: I suspect some Web trolls can't even remember the names of the big 4. They simply like to pick a single entity - RIAA - to cast the blame on.

      Don't blame them, I'm equally to blame. The real culprits are 4 large record companies (SONY BMG Music Entertainment, Warner Bros Records, Vivendi/Universal, and EMI) along with 20 or so of their affiliated labels (see plaintiffs). They use the RIAA as a front to mask their collusion. I use the term "RIAA" as shorthand. Sorry, but I write too much on this issue to keep writing out all those names.

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    2. Re:Where to direct our emotions? by ScrewMaster · · Score: 1

      Sorry, but I write too much on this issue to keep writing out all those names.

      Just use the catchall term Them. Of course, to those of us who grew up on 1950's B-grade sci-fi movies, that brings to mind hordes of giant radioactive ants consuming everything in sight.

      I can live with that.

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  83. Re:give it a fucking break by ResidntGeek · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Oh, for Christ's sake. You, cibyr, can't tell the difference between a high-bitrate MP3 and a FLAC, and you sure as HELL can't tell the difference between 44.1kHz and 96kHz. Even if you could, would it really enhance your enjoyment of the music that much? If it would, you're doing something wrong.

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  84. Uploading makes no copy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    in the US such an act would be considered space-shifting.

    And then you are outside your home, unable to get your latest CD and you fancy on a whim to listen to it, you get your copy you left visible for you on your upload area.

    But you still have a license. And you've just said that downloading is not illegal

    No breech of copyright.

    If someone else downloads it, again, you say that the RIAA don't think this illegal. No copy is made by the uploader either, so no breech of copyright.

    So the only problem is the US legally available action not covered by copyright of space shifting the music onto the upload site.

    And it's legally available.

    So, where is the illegality?

  85. Re:give it a fucking break by commodore64_love · · Score: 1

    He says as he pops another CD into his stereo, a technology invented by Sony & Philips. If you own CDs you are already supporting Sony.

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  86. Re:give it a fucking break by commodore64_love · · Score: 1

    >>>I don't see any need for blu-cd. Or any more physical media for that matter. Content delivery is the way to go.

    Show me where I can buy uncompressed music. All I see are crappy MP3s and AACs.
    Show me how I can stream a 50 megabit/s Bluray movie over a 1 megabit/s connection. Not going to work.
    Show me how to buy a downloadable movie, say Wall-E, and then later sell it to somebody else on ebay. Ooops. You can't.

    Physical media has a lot of advantages like being uncompressed (CD), or being able to carry lots of data (100 gig Bluray), or being resalable when you get tired of it (used market).

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  87. Re:give it a fucking break by commodore64_love · · Score: 2, Insightful

    >>>You, cibyr, can't tell the difference between a high-bitrate MP3 and a FLAC

    You can when you hook it up to your 4.1 or 5.1 surround system. The difference becomes immediately obvious, even if you've used a 320 kbit/s MP3. There are weird sounds coming from the speakers which should not be there. AKA compression artifacts.

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  88. Re:give it a fucking break by Ciggy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Oddly, making a scratch worse can make it better: a CD I own had a slight scratch that would 'jam' my players at that track (it ran roughly circularly, not radially), but by making it worse by deliberately scratching it into a slight 'v' groove, the laser is able to read the data under it again and the track plays fine!

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  89. Re:give it a fucking break by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I usually go to the library and borrow CDs.

    So you're admitting to denying corporations their rightful profit? You should go to jail, monster.

  90. Always in three by Drakkenmensch · · Score: 1

    If there's one thing I've learned from Dragon Ball and Castlevania, it's that bosses always fight in three forms. First there's the standard form (which was the We Are Right and Everybody loves Us), then the xenomorphic horror form (the currently dying form where everybody hates them for suing little girls and dead grandmothers) and finally, the last upcoming ultimate effeminate pretty boy form. Fear this last one the most - it's always that one that consumes planets whole.

  91. die bitch, die!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's when I find that I'm gaming Unreal Tournament too much.

  92. Radio != free... by Kaukomieli · · Score: 1

    At least where I live you have to pay to have radio. It is ~10$/month for radio. And the listener will be subject to advertisement, which does not make a service free - it just gets paid "round the corner"...

  93. Re:give it a fucking break by jamstar7 · · Score: 1

    And what does the $100 comment have anything to do with what the GP said?

    Microsoft Windows XP, I think. $100 is about right for the street price of XP Home if you look hard enough.

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  94. Re: NYCL FP FTW!! by pfleming · · Score: 1
    Please turn in your geek card for ruining this week old meme.

    1) Read summary on /.
    2) ????
    3) Profit!
    4) Also, Fuck you!

  95. Re:give it a fucking break by Cor-cor · · Score: 1

    The download manager for eMusic works fine - they've released a version for linux. I have had a few problems with it (probably because I'm a bit of a n00b when it comes to Linux) but most can be straightened out by closing and restarting the manager. There's also a side project called eMusic J that works in linux and, of course, you can change your settings to download tracks individually in mp3 format if nothing else works for you.

  96. Re:Pay! by morghanphoenix · · Score: 1

    Don't copy that floppy?

  97. You had me at... by jonaskoelker · · Score: 1

    of uploading

    Were those words necessary? ;-)

  98. Re:give it a fucking break by ResidntGeek · · Score: 1

    Care to tell me how compression artifacts in a 2-channel MP3 file would show up only when upmixed to 4 or 5 channels, or if they do why that would be the MP3's fault?

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  99. Illegal vs Immoral by Geotopia · · Score: 1

    We're at a turning point in our civilized world. As appointed liberal courts have usurped the powers we granted our elected leaders by overturning our written statutes, issuing edicts and fiats, the very rule of law is in peril. Simultaneously, our laws are being determined (re-determined) by executive order and shaped by special interest lobbyists. At what point does such malformed law become meaningless? That would leave us with just our moral compasses, and therein is the question of copying bits and bytes...

  100. Re: NYCL FP FTW!! by Tubal-Cain · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    It may be helpful to give subscribers the ability to post a minute or so before normal users. But I am biased.
    What about preventing anonymous posts for a minute or two?

  101. Re:give it a fucking break by Tubal-Cain · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Why do people make posts like this one to undo their mod? Why not instead make a useful post anywhere else in the thread?

  102. Re: NYCL FP FTW!! by TaoPhoenix · · Score: 1

    You're on to something, and in a broader web context.

    FP are 80% Troll/Flamebait. Those types of posts are 90% ACs, the worst AC has to offer and the prime bait that the ThinkOfThe___ crowd plays their game around.

    I'd pay the subscription fee to get early post rights. Presuming others do the same, troll posts are nowhere as much fun way buried in 4 layers of "getmore".

    Everyone wants to know how to get "real hard cash" above the ad game ... that's one way.

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  103. *facepalm* by w0mprat · · Score: 2, Funny
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  104. Re:give it a fucking break by cibyr · · Score: 1

    You're thinking of MP3's joint-stereo messing up Dolby Pro Logic (as described here). Not really important to me, I recently ditched my 5.1 setup for a nice pair of stereo speakers.

    No, I can't hear the difference. I can't even hear the difference between FLAC and 128kbps MP3s from a modern encoder on most samples.

    But I might want to transcode to a lower bitrate for a portable or network player. Or maybe I want to use some funky DSP which has the unfortunate side effect of showing up MP3 artifacts. Who cares? Disk space and bandwidth is just SO FUCKING CHEAP why would you want anything but lossless when it's so damn easy? Sending the actual data is probably the smallest cost of selling music online, so why is it even an issue? Lossless just seems like a no-brainer to me.

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  105. Re:give it a fucking break by cibyr · · Score: 1

    Because sometimes you don't have anything useful to add. If you did, you wouldn't be modding to start with.

    Ironically, further down I have a post modded to +4 so I guess your point is valid.

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  106. Re:give it a fucking break by Mister+Whirly · · Score: 1

    Commercial CDs are still "written" with a laser on the foil part of the CD. The difference is that commercial CDs are "pressed" - that is they have plastic on both sides of the actual foil part. CD-Rs only have the plastic on one side (the bottom).

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  107. Re:give it a fucking break by Chabo · · Score: 1

    It could be your drive. First, with EAC they ask you to calibrate the drive before doing any rips. I've never not done that, but it might have an effect on the results. Second, different drives have varying amounts of error-correction quality.

    I've only had two CDs that wouldn't rip accurately with EAC, given two attempts. Both were horribly gouged enough that normal CD players wouldn't even get close to playing that section of the CD correctly. I'm running on a Samsung SATA DVD burner.

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  108. Re:give it a fucking break by Chabo · · Score: 1

    I'm with you. I can't hear the difference most of the time between FLAC and MP3, even at moderate bitrates, but space is cheap, and if I hear something that's not supposed to be there, I can be nearly 100% sure that it wasn't the encoder (barring strange flac bugs). That narrows it down to the software, OS, sound card, and headphones/speakers.

    Even when space isn't cheap (my Rockbox'd 2GB Sansa), I encode to Ogg Vorbis at "-q 6", which is about equivalent to "-V2" for Lame; VBR which usually gets around 192kbps. (shameless plug--) This is why I wrote FlacSquisher. However, if I had an 80GB or larger portable player, I wouldn't bother transcoding my music; I'd just throw it on there as FLACs.

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