Since the current laws about unauthorized network/computer access are vague enough to include doing something against any website's terms of service couldn't FB just put it their TOS? Then setup a bounty or whistle blower reporting system.
It is against FB's TOS for you to give anyone your password. So are you suggesting FB should terminate your account, because YOU gave your prospective employer YOUR password?
No it is NOT illegal. It just makes it easier for you to win a discrimination lawsuit.
As for citizenship, they can most definitely ask if you are a US citizen, and whether you have the right to work in the US.
For the umpteempth time. This is really about "faceplace" Or are we not allowed to join ANYTHING? Whether or not you like faceplace, or whether or not you feel people should join it is irrevalent.
I'm not sure what private corporation has to do with the 4th amendment. Of course it is generally considered trespassing, or breaking and entering if a non government person tries to enter your property without your permission.
That really isn't an alternative. Ignoring the fact that you facebook may be the only way to stay in touch with some friends. It isn't "facebook" that is really the issue. The issue is the employer wants some access to your private life. In this case it is facebook. But tomorrow it might be your email account, or the admin password to your website. Or want to look in the trunk of your car. Or any this else that has no bearing on your ability to do the job.
Mind you, that might be because I actually talk to people, rather than using a large corporation as a proxy for social interaction.
Do you use email, or post on internet forums? Oh wait you don't cause then you'd be using a large corporation as a proxy for social interaction
The majority of my friends on facebook are people I've met (face to face) in other countries. It is a great way to keep in touch with them. And for some it is the only way.
The thing that annoys me about the anti-security theater rant, is that in fact there is a non-zero value even to security theater.
But is it worth the time and the money and the safety risk of standing in line next to a garbage can full of explosives?
Most people lock their front door, although that does pretty much nothing to stop a real thief. But the risk and inconvenience is low compared to the reward. The TSA security is expensive in both time and money. And there is actual risk involved in going through the checkpoint. But the risk that is exposed if TSA doesn't exist is actually fairly low.
You don't go through security when you hop on a train or a bus. Nor when you go to the mall. I went to a basketball game last week and had my bag checked, mainly cause they wanted to make sure I didn't bring in a nice cheap bottle of water.
But I don't see anyone claiming they want security theatre for these things. Because the risk is NOT high enough. It isn't for a plane flight either.
Link to violence? By whom? Some quack? Can anyone go around linking cause and effect? As far as I know, no study has conclusively linked violence to video games. And a few have shown the exact opposite, in that violent video games give people an outlet to vent.
1. They're right, and labels should be added.
2. They're wrong, and labels shouldn't be added.
3. It's not their jurisdiction.
The most distressing part of news items like this is that the third argument is so frequently overlooked.
Three arguments?
How about "They are right, and label's shouldn't be added?
And why do you think it isn't their jurisdiction? The fact most people overlook this last non argument is not very distressing.
For a car analogy:
I used to like working on cars. They were simple. Shoot I could physically climb in next to an engine. There was so much room in there. We used to complain about some compact cars because the spark plugs were virtually inaccessible.
Now you look at the engine compartment and the engine is almost one solid chunk. There is little empty space, it is filled with hoses and wires and other devices. Not to mention the electronics and computers involved.
I'm not saying it isn't fun anymore. It just isn't as easy and simple, and requires too many specialized tools.
You know, like anything else, it depends on what you are going to use the item for, and how long you expect it to last.
Do you only buy refillable pens? Probably not, you probably go and buy some cheap bic pens (or take them home from work)
I don't like the idea of not changing the battery on my iphone, but if I had a 2 year contract, Id end up getting a new phone in two years. That is pretty much what I did when the battery died on my laptop, I bought a new laptop. Batteries are expensive, and laptops are cheap. Especially considering how much the tech changed in a few years.
And for most consumers... They don't care. They just want something that works.
What PEDs can and in fact have already done, is create a distraction for the flight crew.
What distraction are they causing for the flight crew? Sure they cause a distraction now, cause they aren't supposed to be on. But if you allow them to be on, how will they be any more distracting that a book or magazine? Is they flight crew watching a game being played over someone's shoulder?
In most cases, you're talking about a few minutes before and during takeoff and a few minutes during landing. During that time, read a book.
I do, I am trying to read a book. But they've told me to turn it off. It is also usually 10-15 minutes or longer, depending on how long you sit on the runway.
Ohhh you expect me to bring a dead tree book AND my ebook? Kind of defeats the purpose of the ebook now doesn't it?
Most of what happens to get you to turn them off during takeoff and landing has little to do with interference, it's to get your attention and to get you to follow directions.
Quite a few people have mentioned the rule is to get your attention. I don't understand why me turning off my kindle is going to get my attention. I do two things when I get on an airplane. I immediately fall asleep, or I pull out a magazine and read it until I am allowed to turn my kindle on (or I read my kindle anyways) I do this mainly so I don't have to listen to the same "this is a belt buckle" speech I've heard a hundred times. When we land, there is no speech to pay attention to.
While they may want us to pay attention, they never told us they want us to pay attention (although they do ask as to listen to their spiel)
the policy for putting away devices during take-off and landing is a sound one, for safety alone. take-off and landing are the most hazardous times during a flight.
Really? In the hundreds of flights I've taken, the most hazardous times during a flight have been when the plane is at cruising altitude and hits a pocket of turbulence and literally drops a few feet. At this time there are plenty of small objects in the cabin, like the lunch they served me.
Yes at takeoff and landing there is probably a greater chance for the plane to crash and slam into the ground, and at that point I think there are other things I need to worry about.
Replace "iPhone" with "phone" or "mobile" or "smartphone" and absolutely nothing relevant changes.
That's it, though, isn't it? The story doesn't even involve Apple or its products save that it incidentally happened to be the brand of the specific stolen overpriced electronic toy. Hell, no iPad's were involved at all, and yet this click-bait summary managed to work them in anyhow all while mentioning that you can get one for less than the well-publicized $499!
When I clicked the check box to disable advertising I didn't expect the ads to reappear as articles. This is getting ridiculous.
The main item in the story is an iPhone, but somehow that means the story doesn't involve an Apple product? The value of this product is at issue because if it is over $300 it is a felony, if it is under $300 it is a misdemeanor. There is a discussion on how it is hard to pin down the exact value of this product, and a comparison to another, similar product for the same company that has an MSRP of $399 (where did you get well-publicized $499 figure from? apple.com has it listed for 399)
The value of the device is what the story is all about. So the fact that it IS an Apple device is important. The fact than in iPad retails for $399 is important.
The first example is "control" -- that which is controlled has no options in the matter. The second example is influence or incentive -- that which is influenced has a choice, and even though the likelihood of choosing something other than what the influencer wants may be minimal, there is a statistically significant chance of something else happening.
The second example is also an example of control. Sure the control is through an influence, but that IS the definition of control.
This is not about controlling people. Even though the guy who did the research refers to it that way. This is about offering people incentives to do something that they otherwise would not do.
Google define's "control" as
The power to influence or direct people's behavior or the course of events.
So you got some people to do something they wouldn't normally have done, so you influenced their behavior... or you controlled them!
People want to find the best content, not the best ads. But they shouldn't be penalizing people who have "good seo" such as decent keyword lists. Rather they should be penalizing people with poor content.
I never understood why so many people care about the thermometer in relation to when water changes state. Sure a scientist cares, but the average lay person?
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Since the current laws about unauthorized network/computer access are vague enough to include doing something against any website's terms of service couldn't FB just put it their TOS? Then setup a bounty or whistle blower reporting system.
It is against FB's TOS for you to give anyone your password. So are you suggesting FB should terminate your account, because YOU gave your prospective employer YOUR password?
No it is NOT illegal. It just makes it easier for you to win a discrimination lawsuit.
As for citizenship, they can most definitely ask if you are a US citizen, and whether you have the right to work in the US.
For the umpteempth time. This is really about "faceplace" Or are we not allowed to join ANYTHING? Whether or not you like faceplace, or whether or not you feel people should join it is irrevalent.
The 4th amendment has been weakened,
I'm not sure what private corporation has to do with the 4th amendment. Of course it is generally considered trespassing, or breaking and entering if a non government person tries to enter your property without your permission.
That really isn't an alternative. Ignoring the fact that you facebook may be the only way to stay in touch with some friends. It isn't "facebook" that is really the issue. The issue is the employer wants some access to your private life. In this case it is facebook. But tomorrow it might be your email account, or the admin password to your website. Or want to look in the trunk of your car. Or any this else that has no bearing on your ability to do the job.
Mind you, that might be because I actually talk to people, rather than using a large corporation as a proxy for social interaction.
Do you use email, or post on internet forums? Oh wait you don't cause then you'd be using a large corporation as a proxy for social interaction
The majority of my friends on facebook are people I've met (face to face) in other countries. It is a great way to keep in touch with them. And for some it is the only way.
For example it is illegal to ask a job candidate their age and a prospective employer can get sued for doing so.
No, it isn't illegal. But it makes it easier for you to win an age discrimination suit.
The thing that annoys me about the anti-security theater rant, is that in fact there is a non-zero value even to security theater.
But is it worth the time and the money and the safety risk of standing in line next to a garbage can full of explosives?
Most people lock their front door, although that does pretty much nothing to stop a real thief. But the risk and inconvenience is low compared to the reward. The TSA security is expensive in both time and money. And there is actual risk involved in going through the checkpoint. But the risk that is exposed if TSA doesn't exist is actually fairly low.
You don't go through security when you hop on a train or a bus. Nor when you go to the mall. I went to a basketball game last week and had my bag checked, mainly cause they wanted to make sure I didn't bring in a nice cheap bottle of water.
But I don't see anyone claiming they want security theatre for these things. Because the risk is NOT high enough. It isn't for a plane flight either.
But reading Ender's Game where the worst hand-to-hand violence involves a broken nose, is unacceptable?
When you say "broken nose" you actually mean beaten to a pulp and killed, right?
Link to violence? By whom? Some quack? Can anyone go around linking cause and effect? As far as I know, no study has conclusively linked violence to video games. And a few have shown the exact opposite, in that violent video games give people an outlet to vent.
There are three arguments:
1. They're right, and labels should be added. 2. They're wrong, and labels shouldn't be added. 3. It's not their jurisdiction.
The most distressing part of news items like this is that the third argument is so frequently overlooked.
Three arguments?
How about "They are right, and label's shouldn't be added?
And why do you think it isn't their jurisdiction? The fact most people overlook this last non argument is not very distressing.
For a car analogy: I used to like working on cars. They were simple. Shoot I could physically climb in next to an engine. There was so much room in there. We used to complain about some compact cars because the spark plugs were virtually inaccessible. Now you look at the engine compartment and the engine is almost one solid chunk. There is little empty space, it is filled with hoses and wires and other devices. Not to mention the electronics and computers involved.
I'm not saying it isn't fun anymore. It just isn't as easy and simple, and requires too many specialized tools.
Don't buy anything...
You know, like anything else, it depends on what you are going to use the item for, and how long you expect it to last. Do you only buy refillable pens? Probably not, you probably go and buy some cheap bic pens (or take them home from work)
I don't like the idea of not changing the battery on my iphone, but if I had a 2 year contract, Id end up getting a new phone in two years. That is pretty much what I did when the battery died on my laptop, I bought a new laptop. Batteries are expensive, and laptops are cheap. Especially considering how much the tech changed in a few years.
And for most consumers... They don't care. They just want something that works.
What PEDs can and in fact have already done, is create a distraction for the flight crew.
What distraction are they causing for the flight crew? Sure they cause a distraction now, cause they aren't supposed to be on. But if you allow them to be on, how will they be any more distracting that a book or magazine? Is they flight crew watching a game being played over someone's shoulder?
In most cases, you're talking about a few minutes before and during takeoff and a few minutes during landing. During that time, read a book.
I do, I am trying to read a book. But they've told me to turn it off. It is also usually 10-15 minutes or longer, depending on how long you sit on the runway.
Ohhh you expect me to bring a dead tree book AND my ebook? Kind of defeats the purpose of the ebook now doesn't it?
Most of what happens to get you to turn them off during takeoff and landing has little to do with interference, it's to get your attention and to get you to follow directions.
Quite a few people have mentioned the rule is to get your attention. I don't understand why me turning off my kindle is going to get my attention. I do two things when I get on an airplane. I immediately fall asleep, or I pull out a magazine and read it until I am allowed to turn my kindle on (or I read my kindle anyways) I do this mainly so I don't have to listen to the same "this is a belt buckle" speech I've heard a hundred times. When we land, there is no speech to pay attention to.
While they may want us to pay attention, they never told us they want us to pay attention (although they do ask as to listen to their spiel)
the policy for putting away devices during take-off and landing is a sound one, for safety alone. take-off and landing are the most hazardous times during a flight.
Really? In the hundreds of flights I've taken, the most hazardous times during a flight have been when the plane is at cruising altitude and hits a pocket of turbulence and literally drops a few feet. At this time there are plenty of small objects in the cabin, like the lunch they served me.
Yes at takeoff and landing there is probably a greater chance for the plane to crash and slam into the ground, and at that point I think there are other things I need to worry about.
LA to Melbourne in under 14 hours? COOL!!!
You talk about not being able to fly supersonicly over land... And then you give one of the few routes that doesn't require flying over land?
and it's not a toy - it's a powerful portable computer that can do some impressive and useful things.
An XBox or PS3 is a powerful computer that can do some impressive things. And yet many people would also consider them a toy.
Replace "iPhone" with "phone" or "mobile" or "smartphone" and absolutely nothing relevant changes.
That's it, though, isn't it? The story doesn't even involve Apple or its products save that it incidentally happened to be the brand of the specific stolen overpriced electronic toy. Hell, no iPad's were involved at all, and yet this click-bait summary managed to work them in anyhow all while mentioning that you can get one for less than the well-publicized $499!
When I clicked the check box to disable advertising I didn't expect the ads to reappear as articles. This is getting ridiculous.
The main item in the story is an iPhone, but somehow that means the story doesn't involve an Apple product? The value of this product is at issue because if it is over $300 it is a felony, if it is under $300 it is a misdemeanor. There is a discussion on how it is hard to pin down the exact value of this product, and a comparison to another, similar product for the same company that has an MSRP of $399 (where did you get well-publicized $499 figure from? apple.com has it listed for 399) The value of the device is what the story is all about. So the fact that it IS an Apple device is important. The fact than in iPad retails for $399 is important.
The first example is "control" -- that which is controlled has no options in the matter. The second example is influence or incentive -- that which is influenced has a choice, and even though the likelihood of choosing something other than what the influencer wants may be minimal, there is a statistically significant chance of something else happening.
The second example is also an example of control. Sure the control is through an influence, but that IS the definition of control.
This is not about controlling people. Even though the guy who did the research refers to it that way. This is about offering people incentives to do something that they otherwise would not do.
Google define's "control" as
The power to influence or direct people's behavior or the course of events.
So you got some people to do something they wouldn't normally have done, so you influenced their behavior... or you controlled them!
People want to find the best content, not the best ads. But they shouldn't be penalizing people who have "good seo" such as decent keyword lists. Rather they should be penalizing people with poor content.
I never understood why so many people care about the thermometer in relation to when water changes state. Sure a scientist cares, but the average lay person?
The problem with using my tablet for any serious content creation, like writing a thesis, is that the applications provided are, in my opinion, shit.
And this is where MS is hoping to win with Windows 8. Word on a tablet... or well any other decent PC creation app.