Or you could use your judgment and help out someone in need.
"Or does that sound like too much work? Would you rather piss and moan about it on Slashdot? Might feel good for a moment, but it's all sound and fury signifying nothing."
Or you could just do something at the time and not form a committee.....just an idea
Unless you are the author of the next exploit then how do you know? You *require* me as your customer to do X,Y and Z just so I can have the privilege of being your customer?
Sorry to sound harsh but I just had to travel a few hundred clicks to visit a workplace because SSH was denied as an OUTBOUND connection 'cos some company "Knew better".
I and many others use ports as we wish - please dont assume all your clients are any different!
With a large PHP app there may be many includes. This is a design factor of PHP apps - do you write massive 'pages' and keep you logic and sql, etc in one page or do you go to object orientated and include many pages?
Truth is that PHP caches well (and if you are using some repetitive look ups in MsSQL it does too).
As a rule of thumb don't exceed 15 includes....you should be fine.
The issue is that there appears to be some 'value' on the entity. It might be the brand UNIX or it might be the IP (and a way of moving the IP w/o moving existing 'easements'. Once some ties are cut then perhaps they have some enforceable IP...
On behalf of the slient majority of people here this is a truly magnificent acomlishment on so many levels. This guy will go down in history as the "African Einstien"...ok I mafe that up but you get the point!
If only Jack Black would write a song about him...!
It is far harder to quit a REAL addiction than to install software. I don't get nor care about the Gorilla angle but I can assume those who are so keenly interested in Gorilla's *generally* didn't have to get off the drugs to do so.
Hurdle Count:
Gorilla's: 1 Addicts: 2...oh fuck it I wanted to be a marine biologist but I work with code. This guy didn't want to be a drug addict but gives away his time / life to help other people. Grow up.
"Letting a unique species go kaput is a bad idea, especially if they're moderately intelligent (and primates)"
All species are moderately unique. I hate the knowledge that "under our watch" that another animal disappeared but what trick of man dictated to us that this is "our watch".
Sure, we are eating our own biosphere (and the resource wars have already begun) but please don't tell me we should divert more resources to watching species die than to stopping own efforts to oust them from their habitat into history via encroachment - we need to fix our own agenda before we can help other species.
There was a doco I saw once about birds in Africa that reached plague numbers. The locals did a similar thing each year:
Fill 44 Gal. drums with fuel and a detonater. Place synced. charges under each of the drums. "FIRE"
The charges would send the barrels to tree top height and then they would ignite wiping out all the birds for that year. Same thing just done differently.
I see your point but in the end it goes down the same hole...the sites I work with are more regimented that a user cannot cause unintentional errors (Recruitment sites).
FFS why should developers just adopt your framework/packages when in 12 months it will be changed and you code won't work.
I wrote my own..it was crap I re-wrote my own..it was crap I re-wrote my own again..it was crap next time...OK.
With PEAR: DB -DB2 ->MDB ->MDB2
PHP is a great lang because it is so simple to look @ the code and work out what is going on. It has its quirks but having PEAR / Framework changes all the time it does sometimes make one feel we have to reinvent the wheel just to make sure our app will work after we retire!
Engineering used to be about starting from a problem and figuring out the best solution. Well, best within the limits of your knowledge and abilities.
That is exactly what is required to innovate. Looking at solved problems does not make one engage at solving the problem themselves. People cry don't reinvent the wheel but then wonder why the prodigy of that idea have no idea what a spoke is.
Go invent your own wheels!!! There is much to learn, much knowledge to enjoy. Do it for yourself. Do it because you want to. Don't reach for the wheel.
"We've stopped hiring contractors now, because frankly I'm tired of cleaning up other people's shit."
Sorry the Romans are on the phone and are wondering if.....never mind.
Hey you work in X you clean up the Y of the X that went before you.
I agree. Leave user things like a "date picker" and input macros to JavaScript but leave form processing to the server, you know the one you control & trust. Firefox has a plugin to alter GET and POST vars after the form is submitted & checked by JavaScript. Server does data stuff, browser does monkey see monkey do stuff.
"Yes but the difference is that an intelligent, non-technical person will know that they are beyond the area of their expertise and stop and ask a technical person"
Yes but....
How will they know which tech person to ask? How will they know if the tech person knows the correct answer? What is an expert?
"I'm a networking Expert" "I'm a TCP Expert" "I'm a IP Expert"
Linux is not a 'grass roots' operating system, and hasn't been for a long time. It's been a very capable server OS which is backed by several large corporations. It's just now making headway into the desktop market. It's sort of the reverse of what Windows did. Linux needs to shake its grass roots image if it wants to make bigger waves in the business world. Please stop referring to it as such because it only strengthens the idea that linux is a toy for hobbyists.
This is the word of professional PR people. AS IN THE POST. This is one of them..aka THEM. The PR bots for M$. Notice the dull 'we're on the same side' + yesterday's news slant. Note the ending phrase.
...is there really any rural England left? I thought you might be referring to occasional patches of village common or be really confused and be referring to Wales?
I totally agree that there needs to be some global natural selection - probably best to start with the fair skinned British and perhaps take them out from underneath their smog protection layer and see how they go under the hole in the ozone layer they helped create, how about a nice stint on the Nullarbor Plain? It is a massively flat and relatively lifeless pain with no trees. I wager that if it was full of the population of the UK then no doubt they would kill each other with boredom.
That being said you are right about the little pussy issue, but seeing Australia is a massive place you will find a little pussy goes a long way.
The reason for Rabbits and Foxes was to provide some hunting sport to English immigrants. But because of the lack of predators and the abundance of food their population grew unchecked. There used to be "bunny bashing" in rural areas - where rabbits were herded to a small mesh fence and people clubbed them to death....for fun!
Currently it is lambing season and for the last 3 weeks you can hear.243 shots echoing off the hills (after foxes).
Feral cats are a massive issue to Australian fauna. I can only assume that it is a similar burden in NZ.
Is this a bit like, "back then they didn'y have the server power or the ease of language that mandated 'one true way'"....When you have something that "works" (ie MySQL & your app) then there is little need to put more of the app into the DB as...it already works....
Your missing it...
Music is a form of art. Selling records is a marketting agenda. If a musician wants to compose a hit single then that is art. If a musician wants to compose and album then that is art.
My favourite albums are live recordings with 14 min tracks. If you have ever played a gig then you would know how the band agonises over the order and timing of each song.
"Many artists only produce a few great songs"
You have never heard of any significant portion of artists - only the ones your record company shows you...art is the lie that make you learn the truth..
I think we have te award for the biggest fuckwit ever!
(* Yes I have some great friends for the USA).
Man people rock......they didn't dig u - go figure!
There are however a few steps down the evolutionery ladder which are significant of which the baboon has one taken the first.
You see there is copied behaviour, and behaviour learnt from expereince. Being able to learn from your own experiences (from a tools point of view) is great headway down the path of evolution.
The next point is causatitve behaviour - ie in premonition of the desired outcome I undertake this action. I think what I will do know will affect something later. This is a huge jump down the eveolutionery latter.
The next step is blaming tha which is not understood on "God".
For chimps to pint their spears is fundamentally a huge step in evolution.
Slashdot Mirror
Or you could use your judgment and help out someone in need.
"Or does that sound like too much work? Would you rather piss and moan about it on Slashdot? Might feel good for a moment, but it's all sound and fury signifying nothing."
Or you could just do something at the time and not form a committee.....just an idea
How's Get F**ked is Get F**ked good for you?
Unless you are the author of the next exploit then how do you know? You *require* me as your customer to do X,Y and Z just so I can have the privilege of being your customer?
Sorry to sound harsh but I just had to travel a few hundred clicks to visit a workplace because SSH was denied as an OUTBOUND connection 'cos some company "Knew better".
I and many others use ports as we wish - please dont assume all your clients are any different!
With a large PHP app there may be many includes. This is a design factor of PHP apps - do you write massive 'pages' and keep you logic and sql, etc in one page or do you go to object orientated and include many pages?
Truth is that PHP caches well (and if you are using some repetitive look ups in MsSQL it does too).
As a rule of thumb don't exceed 15 includes....you should be fine.
The issue is that there appears to be some 'value' on the entity. It might be the brand UNIX or it might be the IP (and a way of moving the IP w/o moving existing 'easements'. Once some ties are cut then perhaps they have some enforceable IP...
Hey just so you realise only idiots post crap:
...ok I mafe that up but you get the point!
On behalf of the slient majority of people here this is a truly magnificent acomlishment on so many levels. This guy will go down in history as the "African Einstien"
If only Jack Black would write a song about him...!
So you are suggesting that only people who have nearly died without medical intervention are going to murder people...?
You anger me!
...oh fuck it I wanted to be a marine biologist but I work with code. This guy didn't want to be a drug addict but gives away his time / life to help other people. Grow up.
It is far harder to quit a REAL addiction than to install software. I don't get nor care about the Gorilla angle but I can assume those who are so keenly interested in Gorilla's *generally* didn't have to get off the drugs to do so.
Hurdle Count:
Gorilla's: 1
Addicts: 2
"Letting a unique species go kaput is a bad idea, especially if they're moderately intelligent (and primates)"
All species are moderately unique. I hate the knowledge that "under our watch" that another animal disappeared but what trick of man dictated to us that this is "our watch".
Sure, we are eating our own biosphere (and the resource wars have already begun) but please don't tell me we should divert more resources to watching species die than to stopping own efforts to oust them from their habitat into history via encroachment - we need to fix our own agenda before we can help other species.
Just in case anyone cares:
There was a doco I saw once about birds in Africa that reached plague numbers. The locals did a similar thing each year:
Fill 44 Gal. drums with fuel and a detonater.
Place synced. charges under each of the drums.
"FIRE"
The charges would send the barrels to tree top height and then they would ignite wiping out all the birds for that year. Same thing just done differently.
I see your point but in the end it goes down the same hole...the sites I work with are more regimented that a user cannot cause unintentional errors (Recruitment sites).
This is what sux about PHP frameworks & PEAR.
FFS why should developers just adopt your framework/packages when in 12 months it will be changed and you code won't work.
I wrote my own..it was crap
I re-wrote my own..it was crap
I re-wrote my own again..it was crap
next time...OK.
With PEAR: DB -DB2 ->MDB ->MDB2
PHP is a great lang because it is so simple to look @ the code and work out what is going on. It has its quirks but having PEAR / Framework changes all the time it does sometimes make one feel we have to reinvent the wheel just to make sure our app will work after we retire!
Engineering used to be about starting from a problem and figuring out the best solution. Well, best within the limits of your knowledge and abilities.
That is exactly what is required to innovate. Looking at solved problems does not make one engage at solving the problem themselves. People cry don't reinvent the wheel but then wonder why the prodigy of that idea have no idea what a spoke is.
Go invent your own wheels!!! There is much to learn, much knowledge to enjoy. Do it for yourself. Do it because you want to. Don't reach for the wheel.
"We've stopped hiring contractors now, because frankly I'm tired of cleaning up other people's shit." Sorry the Romans are on the phone and are wondering if .....never mind.
Hey you work in X you clean up the Y of the X that went before you.
I agree. Leave user things like a "date picker" and input macros to JavaScript but leave form processing to the server, you know the one you control & trust. Firefox has a plugin to alter GET and POST vars after the form is submitted & checked by JavaScript. Server does data stuff, browser does monkey see monkey do stuff.
"see Bambi walk up and eat out of her hand whilst blue jays perched on her shoulder " dude! LSD & Slashdot dont mix!
"Yes but the difference is that an intelligent, non-technical person will know that they are beyond the area of their expertise and stop and ask a technical person"
Yes but....
How will they know which tech person to ask?
How will they know if the tech person knows the correct answer?
What is an expert?
"I'm a networking Expert"
"I'm a TCP Expert"
"I'm a IP Expert"
etc,etc
...Linux has a GUI now....? Its *like* a desktop???? .......*ducks*
(FC7 Dual Head Gnome :-)
This is the word of professional PR people. AS IN THE POST. This is one of them..aka THEM. The PR bots for M$. Notice the dull 'we're on the same side' + yesterday's news slant. Note the ending phrase.
...is there really any rural England left? I thought you might be referring to occasional patches of village common or be really confused and be referring to Wales?
I totally agree that there needs to be some global natural selection - probably best to start with the fair skinned British and perhaps take them out from underneath their smog protection layer and see how they go under the hole in the ozone layer they helped create, how about a nice stint on the Nullarbor Plain? It is a massively flat and relatively lifeless pain with no trees. I wager that if it was full of the population of the UK then no doubt they would kill each other with boredom.
That being said you are right about the little pussy issue, but seeing Australia is a massive place you will find a little pussy goes a long way.
Cheers
They did.
.243 shots echoing off the hills (after foxes).
The reason for Rabbits and Foxes was to provide some hunting sport to English immigrants. But because of the lack of predators and the abundance of food their population grew unchecked. There used to be "bunny bashing" in rural areas - where rabbits were herded to a small mesh fence and people clubbed them to death....for fun!
Currently it is lambing season and for the last 3 weeks you can hear
Feral cats are a massive issue to Australian fauna. I can only assume that it is a similar burden in NZ.
Is this a bit like, "back then they didn'y have the server power or the ease of language that mandated 'one true way'" ....When you have something that "works" (ie MySQL & your app) then there is little need to put more of the app into the DB as ...it already works....
Your missing it... Music is a form of art. Selling records is a marketting agenda. If a musician wants to compose a hit single then that is art. If a musician wants to compose and album then that is art. My favourite albums are live recordings with 14 min tracks. If you have ever played a gig then you would know how the band agonises over the order and timing of each song. "Many artists only produce a few great songs" You have never heard of any significant portion of artists - only the ones your record company shows you. ..art is the lie that make you learn the truth..
I think we have te award for the biggest fuckwit ever! (* Yes I have some great friends for the USA). Man people rock......they didn't dig u - go figure!
This is a great observation and very valid.
There are however a few steps down the evolutionery ladder which are significant of which the baboon has one taken the first.
You see there is copied behaviour, and behaviour learnt from expereince. Being able to learn from your own experiences (from a tools point of view) is great headway down the path of evolution.
The next point is causatitve behaviour - ie in premonition of the desired outcome I undertake this action. I think what I will do know will affect something later. This is a huge jump down the eveolutionery latter.
The next step is blaming tha which is not understood on "God".
For chimps to pint their spears is fundamentally a huge step in evolution.